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Hollow Spy Coins

Bruce Schneier's blog links to a few sources for hollow spy coins, one being BoingBoing's Bazaar — where a nickel that can hold a microSD card costs $27. Another is Slashdot's sister company ThinkGeek, where you can get hollow quarters and half-dollars in the low 20s. As if corporate and government security geeks didn't have enough to worry about.

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  1. Sounds rather disappointing, really by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is just a slashvertisement for hollowed-out coins. I would really consider them "spy coins" as the title is selling them to us. A "spy coin" should actively do some spying, really. I could just as well call my wallet a "spy wallet", as it can hold mico-SD cards too.

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    1. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by Infiniti2000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I could just as well call my wallet a "spy wallet", as it can hold mico-SD cards too.

      That analogy doesn't work unless you're suggesting that you wouldn't use your wallet as a wallet. In this case, the coin is not really a coin. It's a fake, intended to deceive. On the other hand, I do agree with you that it seems like a slashvertisement.

    2. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 2, Funny

      If I put one in a vending machine maybe I'll finally get to see how they really work. And for only $20! Such a deal!!

    3. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by Lord+Lode · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, and that makes my phone a spy-phone too! Cool!

    4. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's my concern. I'll stick a microSD card in there with a bunch of important data. And then mix it up with a real coin and spend it... Then go crazy later when I need to access the card and can't find it...

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    5. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it's a coin. A real, minted coin. Currency.

      "Actual coins are precision hand milled to create a secret compartment inside" from Thinkgeek description.

      It's the most expensive half-dollar you'll buy without being a collector, though. Potentially the most expensive you'll spend, depending on the contents of the micro SD card.

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    6. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it just means you have a spy pocket you could sell to sucker for 20 bucks.

    7. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by ircmaxell · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It wouldn't be that difficult to get the weight right, would it? I mean most coins are a copper core with a nickle covering. So if you could create a heavier core, it would compensate for the mass of the removed area. Actually, now that I look at it, lead would be the only non-expensive metal that's heavier than copper by volume, but it's not THAT much heavier (I'm not sure if it's enough to compensate for such a large void)... Sure, they could use something more exotic like Platinum or Tungston (or even Uranium or Plutonium, but if you use them in a coin, I think you have bigger problems than detecting a hidden microSD card), but how much would that thing cost then? http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_metals.htm

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    8. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by lxs · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could put a tiny robot inside that comes out at night, takes pictures and climbs back into the coin before dawn.

      It's contact hides in a gumball machine. Codename Bubbles.

    9. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by ehrichweiss · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, but the coin will sound *completely* different when dropped on a table or with other coins. As a magician I have been painfully aware of this for about 30 years.

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    10. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by ZeroPly · · Score: 5, Funny

      Use red paint to mark a clear X on all your spy coins. That's what I do and I haven't accidentally spent one yet.

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    11. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by expatriot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, but if you got the weight correct, you’d have to worry about spending it accidentally...

      (Actually you’re going to have to worry about that anyway, because cashiers don’t weigh the currency either. Only vending machines do that.)

        For countries outside the US, you cannot spend a US coin. For those in the US, get the equivalent modification for a foreign coin.

      "Oh that coin, it was left over from my last overseas trip. Nothing to see here."

    12. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by garg0yle · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are companies that will sell you coins from many different countries, if you're worried about spending your spy coin...

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    13. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by ehud42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      SSSSHHHHH! You'll give away Canada'a secret weapon!!

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    14. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by Reece400 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup, in Canada too. I'm pretty sure that in the US though it's a-okay (hence all the tourist machines where you can flatten a penny into design).

    15. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, in the U.S. you may do anything you want to a coin as long as it is not with fraudulent intent, e.g. bleaching a $1 bill and reprinting it to look like a $100 bill, etc.

      http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/coins/portraits.shtml#q13

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    16. Re:Sounds rather disappointing, really by nuckfuts · · Score: 2, Interesting

      True story:

      I once made a two-tailed coin as a birthday present for my brother. I used a large file with flat spacers attached that were exactly half the thickness of a coin. With a small jig to hold the coins, I filed away one side from each. I then filed a bevel around each inside edge, sandwiched the halves together and filled in the bevel by soldering. As a final touch, I filed small vertical lines around the edge of the coin.

      Aside from having two tails, the result was pretty much indistinguishable from a regular coin. I don't recall that it sounded any different when dropped on a table, for example. With the coin, an endless number of tricks were possible.

      Shortly after his birthday, my brother spent the coin.

  2. Great.... by Ironhandx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I have to start running everyone who enters and leaves through a giant EM field?

    Sigh... the shareholders aren't going to like the cost of those generators and the shielding...

    More than that, how do I sufficiently shield the porn they bring in with them? If that gets damaged there'll be hell to pay.

    1. Re:Great.... by ircmaxell · · Score: 3, Informative

      Considering the material of the inner wall is copper, it'd have to be a VERY strong field to penetrate the coin. It would have to be so strong that the induced currents are strong enough to begin to melt it. And actually the small size is an advantage, since you'd need a VERY high potential gradient to even generate a significant current (given the walls are how far apart? A tenth of a millimeter? Or on edge maybe a few cm at most). So basically you could generate a high power EMF that's oscillating at a very high frequency (to keep inducing high currents) over a VERY small distance (So that the generated EMF has a VERY high potential gradient) to even be able to generate any kind of a significant current... And by that point, if you melt the copper, you've pretty much destroyed what's inside, so the better option would be developing something to detect the seam rather than try to pear inside with EMR...

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  3. X-ray? by Gorkamecha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wouldn't this look bizarre under an x-ray, given change is usually zapped by itself in a little bowl? I'm not sure I risk a full cavity search trying to fly internationally with one of these...

    1. Re:X-ray? by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not sure. All x-rays I've seen just show metal as a bright spot, not much relief. And either way, all you have to do is keep the coin in your pocket. I never take my belt, rings or glasses off and have yet to be beeped by the metal detector and I've been flying twice a week lately. A little bit of metal is allowed. Just keep the coin in your pocket and take all other metal off and you'll almost certainly raise no suspicions or alarms.

    2. Re:X-ray? by jimicus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While I concede it's unlikely anyone would actively look for such a thing - let alone find it - if they do you have a problem.

      Previously, you were Just Another Passenger.

      Now, you are A Passenger Who Has An Item Obviously Designed to Hide Something Right Under Somebody's Nose.

      If that doesn't attract further interest, I don't know what will. I think the "take it out and plug it into your phone" suggestion was better.

  4. Slashvertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    hey kdawson, if you're going to try to slip in an ad for your sister company in a "news story", at least mark it up as an advertisement.

    This is just wrong. kdawson should be fired for such a breach of ethics.

    1. Re:Slashvertisement by e4g4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ethics? One needs to consult ethics when deciding whether or not to post something to Slashdot? Now - did you by any chance read enough of the summary to get to the part that says "Slashdot's sister company ThinkGeek" which I, personally, think is an open enough admission of cross-promotion.

      Even as a "slashvertisement" - isn't the idea of a hollowed out quarter with enough space for a MicroSD card cool? Are there not interesting consequences for security experts and people concerned about corporate espionage? In other words - won't this "slashvertisement" stimulate some interesting discussion? If you have such a problem with kdawson's "ethics" log the fuck in and take him off your index.

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  5. are they even legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if they look like real money, is it even legal?
    or do the hollow coins come from the mint?

    1. Re:are they even legal? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since these are machined out of gen-u-ine legal tender, the charge you would be worried about is defacement of currency, rather than counterfeiting.

      That said, I've never heard of anybody going after currency defacement operations(even the overt ones. Those "souveneir penny" machines that crush a graphic associated with whatever attraction the machine is located in have been around for decades, and the Secret Service has shown no signs of caring) unless they involve wholesale export of coins for their melt value(I think there was some issue involving the old pure copper pennies during one of the spikes in copper prices fairly recently).

      If you somehow got caught, and your hollow nickel contained a microSD card with a copy of secret_leaked_CIA_documents_that_the_illuminati_don't_want_you_to_have.doc, they'd probably throw a defacement of currency charge at you, just for completeness' sake; but, while almost definitely illegal, they aren't exactly a huge legal risk.

    2. Re:are they even legal? by rotide · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well.. interesting question..

      They _are_ made from real coins and they don't purport to be worth anything more than the tender they were milled from.

      Now, what happens if you try to pass one off at a store? Well, my guess is you would just be an idiot. At $20+ for a hollow quarter, you're better off just giving them a real quarter. Yes, the store would be out 25 cents, but I'm not sure that would be "counterfeiting" as, again, it was real money and again isn't purporting to be worth more than face value (ie, not a bleached $1 bill being reprinted as a $100).

      Really, if you try to pass one of these off, you're _out_ money and it's a mistake you'll be pissed you made.

      And no, hollow coins aren't "minted" that way. As far as I can tell, to make a hollow quarter, you take _two_ regular quarters of similar quality and you cut off the back of one and hollow out the center of another then mate the two.

      Counterfeit? Maybe on a technicality, but I don't see the Secret Service knocking on your door over it.

    3. Re:are they even legal? by Darth_brooks · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "defacement of currency" charge that people toss around doesn't really apply to tearing up a dollar bill, or crushing a penny. The defacement charge is there as a hedge against people drawing a zero on the end of a five dollar bill and trying to pass it off as a fifty.

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    4. Re:are they even legal? by kbonapart · · Score: 3, Informative

      I thought the illegal action was the "deBASEment" of the currency, not defacement. When coins were made out of precious metals, they could be shaved for bits and slivers of that silver or gold. Since the coins weighed less, but still represented the amount of money it was promised to by the government, the currency was debased. And that was a major crime. It defacement of the currency is illegal, then we would've locked up all those wheresgeorge.com people, who keep stamping one dollar bills.

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    5. Re:are they even legal? by kuactet · · Score: 2, Informative

      The key word there is 'fraudulently'. That means, to be illegal, you have to try to use the altered coin as real currency.

  6. Just wait a while ... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... with the federal deficit exploding, the fed is doing a fine job of hollowing out ALL you money, not just the change in your pocket.

  7. Victim of the Economy... by Jazz-Masta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just another way for the mint to save money!

  8. inevitable jokes by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    penny for your thoughts?

    your turn, post your own bad puns

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  9. Spyfolder by DeanLearner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give me 20 quid and I will install a SPY FOLDER on your computer, whether it's Windows, Mac or Linux.

    You too can store things INSIDE your very own SPY FOLDER. Features include

    Store things inside.
    Keep things separate from other things that are not inside your SPY FOLDER.
    All this and more!

    Again, all yours for just 20 quid. Call 555-HAPPYDUDE now.

  10. Watch out! or else.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the Defense Department might think these coins are for espionage, just like the foreign Canadian quarters from 2007:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003697628_spycoins08.html

  11. Nothing new by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was a amateur magician when I was ten or twelve, and I'll be 58 next month. You could get those coins at any magic shop way back then, or through the mail from catalogs; I owned a couple of them. Also, any machinist can and could make them easily.

    1. Re:Nothing new by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It must have been really hard grinding those coins out with a hand drill...

      I'm sorry, I'll get off your lawn.

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  12. Re:X-ray impervious? by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering how laptops have become fair game for involuntary search and seizure at US borders, I think putting your 'important stuff' on a microSD card inside a hollow coin is probably a good idea.

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  13. That's nothing by AC-x · · Score: 5, Funny

    Micro-SD? I can fit a whole usb flash drive in my spy-rectum!

  14. What's the point by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can walk right through security (airport, border, corporate) with a microSD card in your pocket and nobody blinks an eye. Trying to "smuggle" a MicroSD card through is more likely to result in you getting caught and treated badly (even if it isn't even illegal). If the data on the MicroSD card is what you're trying to hide, a better spy device would be a trick card... say, which was internally partitioned into two cards with some very obscure way (SW or HW) of switching between them. Put innocuous data on one side, stick it in your camera, phone, music player, whatever. Even if the goons search the card, that's all they find. Short the right contacts or send the right command, and get access to the "evil" data.

    1. Re:What's the point by choongiri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does anyone really "smuggle" data on physical media any more? You could just gpg encrypt your copy of leaked_top_secret_data.doc using a strong key, put it on a server of your choosing, and retrieve it when you get to where you are going. Just possibly, if you were trying to get data *out* of a very locked down (no electronic devices or memory cards allowed) environment, hiding a memory card might be a necessary part of your plan, but borders and airports? It's just unnecessary. Even in the locked-down corporate / government scenario, if all you can smuggle in/out is the micro-SD card, do you really think they are going to have a card-reader plugged in ready for you to use?

  15. Re:X-ray impervious? by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had precisely the same idea: A hollow coin is also an effective Faraday cage. Not only is it good to disguise the contents from casual (or even somewhat close) examination visually/physically, it’s also going to shield it from more intrusive forms of electronic detection.

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  16. No biggie by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you've got to hide the micro SD card in a coin, you've also got the problem of where to hide the card reader.

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  17. Re:I just inserted a microSD card into my pee hole by killmenow · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sorry but all that makes it small.

  18. Re:Coins? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am Mayan, we use rocks, chocolate, and virgins for money

  19. No problem by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm still torn: Is this a cheap shot at advertising or is Bruce really so deep in the doo that he has to peddle crap now?

    People, microSD cards are what their name suggests: Insanely TINY. They also don't really check on metal scanners that scan your body unless they're set to a level where the hemoglobin in your blood might set them off. Remember that tooth gap where your wisdom tooth used to be? Perfect place to put it while you go through whatever scanners your company might have in place.

    So please...

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  20. When you see a guy trying to open a coin... by AlexiaDeath · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Picture this: a guy is busy with the little opening ring on a handful of change and NONE of them open. Say bye-bye to your data on that sd card. :D

  21. FBI Hollow-Nickel Story by kenh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hollow Nickel, Hidden Agent

    What’s a nickel worth?

    No, it’s not a riddle. It’s a case straight from the pages of FBI history.

    It all started in June 1953, when a Brooklyn newspaper boy picked up a nickel he’d just dropped. Almost like magic, the coin split in half. And inside was a tiny photograph, showing a series of numbers too small to read.

    Even if the boy kept up with the front page news on the papers he delivered, he probably never would have guessed that this extraordinary coin was the product of one of the most vital national security issues of the day: the growing Cold War between the world’s two nuclear powers, the U.S. and the Soviet Union.

    The coin ultimately made its way to the FBI, which opened a counterintelligence case, knowing the coin suggested there was an active spy in New York City. But who?

    New York agents quickly began working to trace the hollow nickel. They talked to the ladies who passed the nickel on to the delivery boy, with no success. They talked to local novelty store owners, but none had seen anything like it. A lot of shoe leather was ruined, but no hot leads emerged.

    Meanwhile, the coin itself underwent expert examination. FBI Lab scientists in Washington pored over it. They immediately realized the photograph contained a coded message, but they couldn’t crack it. The coin did yield clues, however. The type-print, Lab experts concluded, must have come from a foreign typewriter. Metallurgy showed that the back half was from a coin minted during World War II. Ultimately, the coin was filed away, but not forgotten.

    The key break came four years later, when a Russian spy named Reino Hayhanen defected to the United States. Hayhanen—really the American born Eugene Maki—shared all kinds of secrets on Soviet spies. He led FBI agents to one out-of-the-way hiding place, called a “dead drop,” where FBI agents found a hollowed-out bolt with a typewritten message inside. When asked about it, Hayhanen said the Soviets had given him all kinds of hollowed-out objects: pens, screws, batteries, even coins. He turned over one such coin, which instantly reminded agents of the Brooklyn nickel. The link was made.

    From there, Hayhanen put investigators on the trail of his case officer, a Soviet spy named “Mark” who was operating without diplomatic cover and under several false identities.

    After painstaking detective work, agents figured out that “Mark” was really William Fisher, aka Rudolf Abel, who was arrested on June 21, 1957. Though Abel refused to talk, his hotel room and office revealed an important prize: a treasure trove of modern espionage equipment.

    Abel was eventually convicted of espionage and sentenced to a long jail term. In 1962, he was exchanged for American U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers, who had been shot down over the U.S.S.R. and held prisoner there.

    In the end, a nickel was worth a great deal: the capture of a Soviet spy and the protection of a nation.

    Link: http://www.fbi.gov/fbihistorybook.htm

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  22. Hiding in plain sight by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering how laptops have become fair game for involuntary search and seizure at US borders, I think putting your 'important stuff' on a microSD card inside a hollow coin is probably a good idea.

    My blackberry has a microSD card in it. I have passed through many different customs / airport security examinations and nobody has ever examined the contents of the card. I don't see the point of paying for an even smaller microSD card carrier, when I already have a small microSD reader that I carry with me everywhere that nobody ever raises an eye towards.

    And even if my phone is off, or the battery is dead, it still does just fine at carrying the card and looking extremely ordinary. You could also substitute most Motorola phones in the same role, and any number of other phones that I haven't paid attention to that also use microSD.

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    1. Re:Hiding in plain sight by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      sure, that sounds good and all, but it's not realistic or related to what you're replying to. a cellphone is not a laptop. While both can hold enormous amounts of data (16gb/32gb microsd - I think most blackberries can only hold 16 max if I recall correctly), apparently border searches and the likes constitute searching laptops - they make a distinction.

      My android phone holds significantly more data (and can do more, functionality wise) than your blackberry - it could be "more dangerous". Yet they could care less what phone any of us have, as they rarely ever inspect it.

      So the coin makes sense but mostly all of the devices point out how security is basically stupid at best.

    2. Re:Hiding in plain sight by houghi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Probably because you are not a beard wearing Mediteranian. Random searches and such, you know.

      And a nice place place would be in your laptop itself. For small things, just put them in the battery department. And for very topsecret things, open the laptop and tape it to the motherboard. Unless they realy are looking for it AND have somebody know how the xray should look like, it will look like a motherboard with some chips on it.

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    3. Re:Hiding in plain sight by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      First they came for the laptops, but I didn't speak up because I carried all my data in my phone...

      But no, seriously, do you think that the day will never come when people's phones are seized? Laptops are more valuable than phones, so if they are willing and able to get away with dispossessing you of those, the only reason phones aren't being taken is that they don't feel that is useful 'right now'. Someday some undersecretary is going to think 'phones carry lots of data now too, we should be searching those as well!' and boom, a new policy will be put in place, and you'll be saying goodbye to your microSD card.

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    4. Re:Hiding in plain sight by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So the coin makes sense but mostly all of the devices point out how security is basically stupid at best.

      I disagree with you on that. The purpose of these coins is just to hide the microSD card. Except that a hollowed-out coin would look more suspicious at the airport scanner. You can physically put the same microSD card into your phone (any phone that takes a microSD, that is) and raise no suspicion whatsoever.

      Hence the coin makes no sense, unless you don't own a phone that can take a microSD - in which case you're a terrible excuse for a spy.

      So if the point is to make security look silly, then the best route would be to keep doing what we already do. And if someone released a 128gb microSD tomorrow, you could still physically place it in your phone even if it only supports up to 16 or 32gb; your phone just wouldn't be able to read it. But a non-readable card in a phone is still equally as useful as the same card in a coin, and still just as useful when you get to the other end.

      they could care less what phone any of us have, as they rarely ever inspect it

      That is pretty much the point I am making. We already have good tools for smuggling microSD cards to wherever. We can move arbitrarily large microSD cards through security today without anyone asking questions. These coins are meaningless toys.

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    5. Re:Hiding in plain sight by bmo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't even need a phone that actually uses micro SD cards.

      You can tape a micro SD card in the back of a low-end ordinary cellphone. Since the phone isn't viewed even as a computing device, the only way the border agents are going to find anything is if they actually take the back off the phone.

      The only way to keep data from entering/leaving the country would be to shut down travel entirely, shut down the mail, shut down the parcel services, and turn the US into North Korea.

      I shouldn't say that too loud and give them ideas, should I?

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    6. Re:Hiding in plain sight by JesseL · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Send me a hollow coin and I'll do it. I've X-rayed guns before (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/J_M_Lambert/Guns/SR9X-ray.jpg), and condsidering the way it's easy to see through a metal magazine, and through the brass cartridges inside of it, I'd speculate that it should be pretty easy to differentiate hollow coin from a normal one.

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    7. Re:Hiding in plain sight by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, no, they actually care about laptops. And phones. They actually know those can hold data, so just might take them even if they can't find any.

      Tape it to the circuit board of your travel alarm clock. Or your electric razor.

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  23. TrueCrypt file named DSC43423.jpg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you'd be better off with a TrueCrypt file named DSC13423.jpg stored on an SDHC card loaded inside a point and shoot camera. Better if it is surrounded by other images with sequential numbers that make sense too.

  24. Re:Coins? by cmiller173 · · Score: 2, Funny

    What is the exchange rate USD to virgins?

  25. These seem like neat toys... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, for one, would probably waste far too much of my limited lifespan just opening and closing the hollow coin, sounds cooler than your average desk toy.

    They seem virtually irrelevant as either a security threat or a tool of asymmetric covert operation, though. MicroSD cards are already small and durable(resistant to liquids, magnetic fields, a number of common solvents, surprising amounts of mechanical strain, etc.). Perhaps more importantly, they are already dirt-cheap and extremely common consumer electronics. Unlike, say, little bits of microfilm, which might not like being stored under your tongue or embedded in the gum stuck to the bottom of your shoe, and which are instantly suspicious on discovery(since virtually nobody used tiny pieces of microfilm in the course of ordinary activity. Libraries always used long spools or large cards of the stuff, and hardly anybody else used any at all), a microSD card, even a plainly visible one, arouses no particular suspicion. Virtually every mid-market cellphone comes with one, lots of PMPs use them for storage expansion, you can even get them at pharmacies.

    Even in fascist Orwellistan, or some high-security facility, where it would be legal and accepted to inspect people for them, it would be an immensely tedious chore, because they are so common.

    If you are running some sort of high-security operation, your computers would(unless you are a terminal incompetent) be configured without any means of transferring data to unapproved storage media(configuring the OS to, say, only load drivers for USB_HID devices with vendor ID matching whoever your vendor is, and load no driver and send an alert with the machine name, logged on user, and lsusb output to IT security is not commonly done; but it is hardly rocket surgery.) Trying to stop secrets from leaving by physically intercepting tiny chunks of flash memory at the door is just stupid.

    1. Re:These seem like neat toys... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      you can successfully hide a MicroSD card behind a Stamp on a letter (big stamp, big letter) and have it arrive intact. I did this as a bet to a friend. I sent it to him in florida from michigan.
        I did modify the SD card. I sanded off the extended lip to make it all the same thickness, and I embossed the envelope where the st card was to go to give it a bit more room. it was undetectable by casual inspection, but if you flexed it in the stamp location you could feel it.

      Spy's used to send microfilm cutouts under stamps all the time. I still have a MINOX camera that I paid a dear amount for back in the 90's when I was into collecting real spy trinkets.

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  26. Re:X-ray impervious? by ehrichweiss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It might disguise the contents but I tell you from experience that if you drop it on a table with other change, *something* will not sound right. I'm a magician and I have lots of coins just like this one and their "talking" is a real problem.

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  27. Old news by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those of us with the eyes to see have long known that coins are notorious for being psychotronic mind-control amplifiers. That's why I only use my own banknotes, drawn on the First Bank of Rogerborg. Also: Al Gore is completely right about global warming.

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  28. Re:Coins? by thijsh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Depending on A/S/L up to $3.7 million according to Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480037,00.html

  29. Re:I just inserted a microSD card into my pee hole by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get your genres straight; we're talking about spies, not private dicks.

  30. Re:X-ray impervious? by countertrolling · · Score: 3, Funny

    My girlfriend's a magician. One night I was driving down the highway, she touched my leg, and I turned into a hotel.

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