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Food Activist's Life Becomes The Life of Brian

krou writes "After food activist and author Raj Patel appeared on The Colbert Report to promote his latest book, things seemed to be going well, until he began to get inundated with emails asking if he was 'the world teacher.' In events ripped straight from The Life of Brian, it would seem that Raj Patel's life story ticks all the boxes necessary to fulfill prophecies made by Benjamin Creme, founder of religious sect Share International. After the volume of emails and inquiries got worse, Patel eventually wrote a message on his website stating categorically that he was not the Messiah. Sure enough, 'his denial merely fanned the flames for some believers. In a twist ripped straight from the script of the comedy classic, they said that this disavowal, too, had been prophesied.'"

165 comments

  1. Oblig by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's NOT the messaiah, he is a very naughty boy!

    1. Re:Oblig by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Don't you wanna haggle???

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    2. Re:Oblig by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Informative

      He's NOT the messaiah, he is a very naughty boy!

      ftfa: "My parents came to visit recently, and they brought clothes that said 'he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy'. To them, it's just amusing." :)

      --

      You can't take the sky from me...

    3. Re:Oblig by ender- · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He's NOT the messaiah, he is a very naughty boy!

      ftfa: "My parents came to visit recently, and they brought clothes that said 'he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy'. To them, it's just amusing." :)

      His parents are obviously way more 'geek cool' than my parents!

    4. Re:Oblig by Ender-s's+Father · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, they're not, son!

    5. Re:Oblig by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      He's NOT the messaiah, he is a very naughty boy!

      Are you a virgin?
      What?
      Well, if it's not a personal question.

  2. Here come the quotes... by Psmylie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I predict a long series of Python quotes incoming. Allow me to post one of my all-time favorites:

    Followers: "Only the true Messiah denies his divinity!"
    Brian "What?! Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right, I AM the Messiah!"
    Followers: "He is! He is the Messiah!"
    Brian: "Now, Fuck off!"
    *awkward pause*
    Followers: "How shall we fuck off, oh Lord?"

    One of the better parts of an overall extremely funny movie.
    Also, I predict that this article on Slashdot will make all of his email problems so much better!

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    psmylie's dictionary: Godzillion (noun) Any number large enough to destroy Tokyo

    1. Re:Here come the quotes... by zappepcs · · Score: 1

      Plenty of quotes, and sucks to be him right now. Maybe, just maybe he can work to get us better food supplies and get rid of Monsanto et al, and improve the world a little bit with all this attention?

    2. Re:Here come the quotes... by llvllatrix · · Score: 1

      I think he's a witch!

    3. Re:Here come the quotes... by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Funny

      One of the better parts of an overall extremely funny movie.
      Also, I predict that this article on Slashdot will make all of his email problems so much better!

            Now, if there were only a link to a website so we could help him even more!

          Shalshdottes Eunt Domus!

    4. Re:Here come the quotes... by magus_melchior · · Score: 1

      Bring 'em on. They posted videos of LoB clips.

      But they seem to have pulled their own Roman Joke Names clip. A shame-- I liked Incontinentia Buttocks...

      --
      "We are Microsoft. You shall be assimilated. Competition is futile."
    5. Re:Here come the quotes... by magus_melchior · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't you know, I discovered the clip. And I predict a number of replies pointing it out as well.

      --
      "We are Microsoft. You shall be assimilated. Competition is futile."
    6. Re:Here come the quotes... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      I predict a long series of Python quotes incoming.

      Here's one:

      print "Hello World!"
      for i in range(1, 11):
          print i

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    7. Re:Here come the quotes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Monsanto's gonna make a scarecrow out of him, nailing him up in their cornfields.

    8. Re:Here come the quotes... by DeadDecoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Clearly, he got the "Colbert Bump".

    9. Re:Here come the quotes... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "I think he's a witch!"

      He turned me into a NEWT!!

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    10. Re:Here come the quotes... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      But they seem to have pulled their own Roman Joke Names clip. A shame-- I liked Incontinentia Buttocks...

      You mean this one?

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    11. Re:Here come the quotes... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      Gotta give you that it develops a certain depth together with your sig. Bit more work on the delivery would be nice, though.

      --
      Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
    12. Re:Here come the quotes... by blai · · Score: 1

      must have gotten better....

      --
      In soviet Russia, God creates you!
    13. Re:Here come the quotes... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Plenty of quotes, and sucks to be him right now. Maybe, just maybe he can work to get us better food supplies and get rid of Monsanto et al, and improve the world a little bit with all this attention?

      Hope limited.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    14. Re:Here come the quotes... by icannotthinkofaname · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shalshdottes Eunt Domus!

      "The people called 'Shalshdottes' they go the house"?

      --
      Let q be a radix > 1. I am in ur base-q, killing 10 d00ds.
    15. Re:Here come the quotes... by dem0n1 · · Score: 1

      On the internet no one can tell if you're a newt.

      --
      Why save your soul when you can sell it for a profit?
    16. Re:Here come the quotes... by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Hey, being "Messiah" to even a small cult isn't all that bad of a thing. He's trying to be honest, and tell them "nope, not me, go away."

          He doesn't actually have to embrace their lunacy, but he can direct them. "Go do [something good]". Like it or not, he has their attention and their obedience. Many strive for years to achieve that, and few ever get it. It's a powerful tool though, and as with power, as you approach absolute, so does your corruption.

          Or he could just send them all down to Antarctica to meet the mother ship which will be picking them all up at -90S on July 31, 2010. Don't worry, there will be a second ship arriving at +90N on Dec 21, 2012. I wouldn't expect too many people returning from either trip, which would solve his problems. :)

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      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    17. Re:Here come the quotes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ... I got better ...

    18. Re:Here come the quotes... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Problem is that there is a US base at 90S and they would be obliged to help. Better send them to 85S (or to the Russians).

    19. Re:Here come the quotes... by vtechpilot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shalshdotti ite Domum

      Now, write it out a hundred times. Hail Taco ! And if it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.

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      Slashdot is an anagram for Has Dolts, and I am Dolt number 468543
    20. Re:Here come the quotes... by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Damned Americans. Can't even go to Antarctica without running into them. What do they think, that they own the world?

          (BTW, I'm American, and that's sarcasm for those without a clue)

            Ok, all cult members to 85S 50E. That's where the "Alien rendezvous" will be. Be sure attend before the "end of the world". This is a non-partisan invitation. All cult members must attend, or your soul will be lost in accordance with your particular misguided beliefs.

          Sincerely,

          Prophet of the Messiah

      --
      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    21. Re:Here come the quotes... by kenj0418 · · Score: 1

      Monsanto's gonna make a scarecrow out of him, nailing him up in their cornfields.

      Always look on the bright side of life (whistling)...

    22. Re:Here come the quotes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I think he's a witch!"

      He turned me into a NEWT!!

      ...but I got better...

    23. Re:Here come the quotes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's not a long series of Python quotes, this is a long series of Python quotes;
      while True: print('"'),

    24. Re:Here come the quotes... by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Maybe, just maybe he can work to get us better food supplies and get rid of Monsanto et al, and improve the world a little bit with all this attention?

      Well he'd HAVE to be the messiah in order to accomplish two diametrically opposed goals.

  3. Yes! We are all individuals! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...

    1. Re:Yes! We are all individuals! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm not.

    2. Re:Yes! We are all individuals! by Qbertino · · Score: 1

      Shut up!

      --
      We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
    3. Re:Yes! We are all individuals! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, *you* shut up, Big Nose!

    4. Re:Yes! We are all individuals! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, I am.

    5. Re:Yes! We are all individuals! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Shh!*

  4. To be fair.... by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Funny

    To be fair, his book did say "Blessed are the cheese makers", so he does bear some of the culpability.

    --
    There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
    1. Re:To be fair.... by MaXintosh · · Score: 1

      What's so special about the cheesemakers?

      Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

      I forget who said history doesn't repeat, but it seems to rhyme. But whomever said that forgot to add that History is a bawdy limerick. ;)

    2. Re:To be fair.... by Zerth · · Score: 1

      Twain?

    3. Re:To be fair.... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Funny

      To be fair, his book did say "Blessed are the cheese makers", so he does bear some of the culpability.

      Well, to be fair, he wasn't speaking literally. I think he meant any manufacturer of dairy products.

    4. Re:To be fair.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Split Enz - History Never Repeats.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzuJXqgsiSM

  5. Photos on Slashdot. by bcmm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shame you started using photos in stories. Never has the foot icon been more appropriate.

    --
    # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
    Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    1. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shame you started using photos in stories. Never has the foot icon been more appropriate.

      Those responsible have been sacked for their indiscretions.

    2. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by Chad+Birch · · Score: 1

      Only samzenpus does that. I guess the quality of the stories he posts is so low anyway that they figure adding a photo can't really make things any worse.

      --
      Sturgeon was an optimist.
    3. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      [from his sig]
      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama

      cat: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted

      Yes, I did log in as root, no I don't understand what the fuck is going on (I saw something similar once).

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      $ make available
    4. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      The cat is redundant anyways. Assuming you can read the file, you can point strings at it directly. Faster that way.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    5. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by bcmm · · Score: 1
      I am aware of the UUOC, but it's there because more people know what

      cat

      does than what

      string

      does

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      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    6. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by bcmm · · Score: 1

      Bother, submitted instead of previewing...

      ... and people are more likely to play with it if they're completely sure it will only read.

      --
      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    7. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He does it to show everyone that he alone knows how to use the image tag. Of course he hasn't realized that the icons on other articles are actually images too, and of course no one has felt the need to inform him of this.

    8. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama

      Cat abuse, you want: strings /dev/mem | grep -i llama

      cat: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted

      Yes, I did log in as root, no I don't understand what the fuck is going on

      Interesting, that should work. What OS are you on?

    9. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about him, but I'm using CentOS 5.3 (2.6.18). If I do:

      # sudo cat /dev/mem | strings

      I get a stream of output, and pretty interesting too. But, if I do:

      # sudo cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
      cat: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted

      Oops. Not clear why that happened.

      # sudo strings /dev/mem | grep -i llama

      Does work. It's very odd.

      --
      The more people I meet, the better I like my dog.
    10. Re:Photos on Slashdot. by 1s44c · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think I see whats happening here. strace shows that reading past the end of /dev/mem errors with EPERM. Both cat and strings get the same EPERM but they behave differently to response to it.

      cat dies and gives you the error. When it dies it also kills its process group. That's everything you pipe its output though.

      strings just ignores the error. It doesn't tell you about it and doesn't kill its process group.

      Note that EPERM means you asked for something invalid and isn't the same as EACCES which means you asked for something you don't have permission for.

      Thanks for the interesting puzzle.

  6. So... by 2names · · Score: 3, Funny

    is he with the People's Front of Judea or the Judean People's Front?

    --
    "I'm just here to regulate funkiness."
    1. Re:So... by Pteraspidomorphi · · Score: 1

      Probably the Allied Atheist Allegiance.

    2. Re:So... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Not the All-American Alliteration Addicts' Association?

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    3. Re:So... by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      Not the All-American Alliteration Addicts' Association?

      Ahh, another anomaly awaiting analysis.

      --
      There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
    4. Re:So... by JudeanPeople'sFront · · Score: 1

      I think he is with the Popular Front...

    5. Re:So... by stillnotelf · · Score: 1

      Actually, he's with the American Association Against Acronym Abuse.

    6. Re:So... by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      I think he is with the Popular Front...

      At least he is not with the Judean Popular People's Front.

      SPLITTERS!

  7. I'm not the Messiah either by mmmmbeer · · Score: 1

    I'm really not. Not at all. Don't worship me. Don't send money to my PO Box. Certainly do not make tax-deductible contributions to charitable organizations in my name. Please, really, stop it.

    1. Re:I'm not the Messiah either by selven · · Score: 4, Funny

      Listen closely. I'd like to help you but I can't. I'd like to tell you to take a copy of your policy to Norma Wilcox on... Norma Wilcox, W-I-L-C-O-X... on the third floor, but I can't. I also do not advise you to fill out and file a WS2475 form with our legal department on the second floor. I would not expect someone to get back to you quickly to resolve the matter. I'd like to help, but there's nothing I can do.

    2. Re:I'm not the Messiah either by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      I'm not the Messiah, and so's my wife.

    3. Re:I'm not the Messiah either by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      <small>oh, thank you...--</small>

      <big>I'm sorry m'am, I know you're upset</big>
      <small>Pretend to be upset</small>
      (/. doesn't support those tags properly, nor does it support <font>)

      --
      $ make available
  8. How to fix the problem... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He should abuse the shit out of these retards.

    I bet these prophecies don't say anything about him putting his followers into poverty for his own personal vices.

    Tell them he's not their messiah but he wants all of their money so he can spend it on hookers and blow.

    Although that still might not work, after all scientology has a way more suckers than these share international fools.

    --
    When information is power, privacy is freedom.
    1. Re:How to fix the problem... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      after all scientology has a way more suckers t"

      Don't belittle the victims.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    2. Re:How to fix the problem... by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Interesting

          Shhh, keep it down. I'm surrounded by them right now. They're best kept pacified, and my supply of Chlorpromazine is running low. Send the Messiah with more.

      --
      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    3. Re:How to fix the problem... by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      Don't belittle the victims.

      Maybe we should embiggen them?

      --
      There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
    4. Re:How to fix the problem... by thewiz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Tell them he's not their messiah but he wants all of their money so he can spend it on hookers and blow.

      That's a little unimaginative; we see that on a near-daily basis from athletes, politicians and developers.

      How about he gets these unwanted believers to dress in burlap tunics, hit themselves on the forehead with a thick oak board while chanting?

      --
      If "disco" means "I learn" in Latin, does "discothèque" mean "I learn technology"?
    5. Re:How to fix the problem... by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      No, they might actually do that (you might well be alluding to something, but it's too obscure for me).

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      $ make available
    6. Re:How to fix the problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an allusion to Monty Python and the Holy Grail. In one of the early scenes, a bunch of monks did precisely that.

      HTH.

    7. Re:How to fix the problem... by rdnetto · · Score: 1

      He should abuse the shit out of these retards.

      Unfortunately, I suspect he has something a little something called a conscience that prevents this.

      --
      Most human behaviour can be explained in terms of identity.
  9. Good Quote: by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "People are very ready to abdicate responsibility and have it shovelled on to someone else's shoulders," he said. "You saw that with Obama most spectacularly, but whenever there's going to be someone who's just going to fix it for you, it's a very attractive story. It's in every mythological structure."

    --

    I'm not tense. I'm just terribly, terribly, alert.

  10. I offer my services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's the kind of paradox that's inescapable," he said, with a grim humour. "There's very little chance or point trying to dig out of it."

    Here's the outline:

    1. Ask for money - you WILL get it. Look at EVERY Televangelist. Osteen pulls in over $70million/year
    2. Have a sex scandal with a goat and Tiger Woods and a porn star.

    I will implement all of that for, um, 95% of the take - this will add to the scandal if I'm getting rich off of it. I promise, in order to save you, I will spend the money on porn stars, blow, booze, private jets, an extremely lavish lifestyle, and I will do everything in my power to totally disgust those nuts that think you're a deity.

    I will do it all for you, my client. That's how committed I am!

    1. Re:I offer my services by richardkelleher · · Score: 1

      Hell, I'd do it for 5%. These things can be quite lucrative.

  11. A food activist? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Funny

    All ye who call yourself Gourdenes...

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    Ezekiel 23:20
  12. You're the popular front, aren't you... by Burning+Plastic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Splitter!

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    [All Your Fish Are Belong To Us]
  13. All that attention must be torture, but... by sanche · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't grumble, give a whistle
    And this'll help things turn out for the best...

    And...always look on the bright side of life...
    Always look on the light side of life...

    1. Re:All that attention must be torture, but... by CityZen · · Score: 1

      da-dum, da-da da-da da-dum!

    2. Re:All that attention must be torture, but... by Loether · · Score: 1

      Damn you. now that song will be stuck in my head all day... and my co-workers will think I'm crazy from the unnatural smile my face.

      Link to the lyrics...
      http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/Always_Look_Bright_Side_Life.shtml

      --
      TODO create witty sig.
    3. Re:All that attention must be torture, but... by Barny · · Score: 1
      --
      ...
      /me sighs
    4. Re:All that attention must be torture, but... by tangelogee · · Score: 0

      It's almost as bad as that Filet-o-fish commercial... Damnit, now that's in my head!!!

  14. A Question Is Answered by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    To anybody who ever wondered why, a couple of centuries ago, a group of very sensible gentlemen who were engaged in a nation-building exercise put in place a division between church and state...well, you need look no further.

    --
    I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
    1. Re:A Question Is Answered by rimugu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That does not prevent the idolizing of politicians, individually or as a party.
      President or party Messiah anyone?

      It does not prevent the abuse of the state, just warranties that state has a monopoly on certain kids of abuse.
      School teachers accused of pederasty with immunity of prosecution anyone?

      Not that I don't support "the separation between church and state. Is like separating good and evil." (That comes form a cartoon of wizard of Id, and cannot help but quote it here).

    2. Re:A Question Is Answered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you could go look at the Church of England. That might have had something to do with it seeing as fear of the government telling them who and how to worship was probably a little higher on their list than any fear they might have had that when it comes to religion some people will believe anything.

    3. Re:A Question Is Answered by Brett+Buck · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I agree with the basic principle, but you are incorrect about that. Technically, all that the establishment clause prohibits is establishment of a state religion. It certainly DOES NOT separate or segregate church and state, and I think you would find all of those very sensible gentlemen were all highly religious, and governed and acted accordingly.

    4. Re:A Question Is Answered by pnuema · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are reading the wrong history. Most of those men were at best Diests, and if I end up being wrong and there is such a thing as a Christian hell, I have no doubt many of the founding fathers are roasting over the flame reserved for Franklin. If there was ever an un-Christian man, it was him.

    5. Re:A Question Is Answered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all." -- Thomas Paine

      "Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated." -- George Washington

      "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson

      "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." -- James Madison

      The Treaty of Tripoli -- "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." Written during the Washington administration, it was sent to the Senate during the Adams administration. This was the 339th time that a recorded vote was required by the Senate, but only the third time a vote was unanimous.

    6. Re:A Question Is Answered by Zerth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Those are all nice quotes, but unfortunately about as likely to affect current opinion as:

      "Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere!" -- George Washington in a note to his gardener

    7. Re:A Question Is Answered by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Are you new to the internet? This "founding fathers on religion" debate is old as dirt, and you don't seem to have the basics. Many of them would not be considered "Christians" by today's standards, and it is certainly false to say "all...were highly religious." As to the intent of the separation clause: Thomas Jefferson wanted to "build a wall between church and state" (in his words, from memory). His intent couldn't be more clear.

      I bet you went to "public" school in Texas...

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    8. Re:A Question Is Answered by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... and I think you would find all of those very sensible gentlemen were all highly religious...

      Or not.

      --
      Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
    9. Re:A Question Is Answered by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And yet most US politicians seem to need to at least pretend to believe in god to be elected.

    10. Re:A Question Is Answered by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson

      Mr Jefferson was an optimist.

    11. Re:A Question Is Answered by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. They were products of the enlightenment, they were not highly religious.

    12. Re:A Question Is Answered by rjh · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're about 150 years out of date.

      Originally, the First Amendment only prohibited Congress from getting involved in religion. State legislatures were free to do so, and many did. For instance, Massachusetts had a state church well into the 1800s.

      After the Civil War, the Fourteenth Amendment was enacted. Through the Fourteenth Amendment, the First Amendment was applied throughout the entirety of the United States government and all state and municipal governments.

      So yes, the First (plus the Fourteenth) unquestionably does separate church and state. If you want to claim they don't, you're going to need to present some pretty compelling proof.

    13. Re:A Question Is Answered by srothroc · · Score: 1

      They're the Founding Fathers of our government, not the Founding Farmers. I will admit that people have selective memories when it comes to using the past to advancing their personal causes, though.

    14. Re:A Question Is Answered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better Quote:
      Sam: "Mr. Lincoln, what is your stance on Religion in Schools?"
      Abraham Lincoln: (looks at cue cards) "Two Wrongs don't make a right."

    15. Re:A Question Is Answered by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      They pretty nicely refute the guy he replied to though.

    16. Re:A Question Is Answered by the_womble · · Score: 1

      He did not say there were Christians, he said they were religious. You admit they may have been Deists.

      Why would you expect the founding father to be in hell, regardless of their religion?

    17. Re:A Question Is Answered by pnuema · · Score: 1
      I said at best Deists. Calling the founding fathers "religious men" is revisionist history. These men were deeply skeptical of religion.

      What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not. - James Madison

      God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there will never be any liberal science in the world. - John Adams

      This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it. -John Adams

      The truth is, that the greatest enemies of the doctrine of Jesus are those, calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them to the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come, when the mystical generation [birth] of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation [birth] of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. - Thomas Jefferson

      I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. -Thomas Jefferson

      I could go on. At length. All damn day, in fact. But go ahead, tell me more about how the founding fathers were such deeply religious men. I enjoy a good fairy tale as much as the next rube.

    18. Re:A Question Is Answered by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but you misread my post. I said they were sensible gentlemen who (sensibly) put a wall between church and state. They did so precisely because they mistrusted the influence of religious figures doing exactly what they're doing now: encouraging their congregations to vote for one candidate over another and lobbying for their views to gain some kind of state sanction. They didn't do it because they were afraid the state would wipe out religion.

      Please look again at what I wrote. I'm well aware of the religious beliefs (or lack of them) that many of the US founding fathers held, and respect them for being smart enough to keep that crap out of politics.

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  15. Always look on the briiight side of life... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always look on the briiight side of life...

    1. Re:Always look on the briiight side of life... by skudenfaugen · · Score: 1

      Always look on the briiight side of life...

      if life seems jolly rotten there's something you've forgotten...

  16. Don't know about you guys by santax · · Score: 1

    but I would be shagging like there is no-tomorrow!

  17. His only chance for solitidue ... by daveywest · · Score: 1

    Honestly, now the only way out for this guy is "leaking" an internet sex tape involving goats, a cheese grater and a midget.

    1. Re:His only chance for solitidue ... by richardkelleher · · Score: 1

      Sadly, that also may just fan the flames. Something about false accusers and the like.

    2. Re:His only chance for solitidue ... by cronco · · Score: 1

      Unless... what if that is in the prophecies as well?

    3. Re:His only chance for solitidue ... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Well, the best thing he can do probably is to read the prophecies and then violate as many of them as he can.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    4. Re:His only chance for solitidue ... by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 1

      A self unfulfilling prophecy?

      --
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      Virtue is a temptation
      Community is a cartel
  18. Not for Buddhism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ..as a figure who combines messianism for Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and Muslims alike ...

    In Buddhism, I know of no concept of a "messiah". None. Maybe those of you who have perhaps studied more of the Sutras than I could offer another point of view.

    There's a saying in Buddhism, "If you see the Buddha on the side of the road; kill him!"

    I don't see how the concept of messiah would fit into the teachings.

    1. Re:Not for Buddhism by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's a saying in Buddhism, "If you see the Buddha on the side of the road; kill him!"

      I guess he can consider himself lucky that he was identified as Messiah, not as Buddha ...

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    2. Re:Not for Buddhism by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      Messianism not - but idolization is surely a concept in certain flavors of Buddhism. You're probably right that there is no scriptural point to that in the Sutras, but Buddhism is not homogeneous and has blended with lots of different folk religions which at least elevated the Buddha to an idol to which you can prop up altars, make donations and pray for good fortune.

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    3. Re:Not for Buddhism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maitreya is a bodhisattva who in the Buddhist tradition is to appear on Earth, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma. According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor of the historic kyamuni Buddha, the founder of Buddhism.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya

    4. Re:Not for Buddhism by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      In Buddhism, I know of no concept of a "messiah". None. Maybe those of you who have perhaps studied more of the Sutras than I could offer another point of view.

      Maitreya is a future Buddha who's supposed to show up some day and show us all the True Dharma. What we have here is the Theosophical Maitreya, which is a variation on the Buddhist one.

      (A bizarre variation, but Theosophy is pretty wacky. It's also historically important, playing a big role in uniting Buddhism and bringing it to the attention of the West in the late nineteenth century, and also in kicking off what developed into Neopaganism.)

      There's a saying in Buddhism, "If you see the Buddha on the side of the road; kill him!"

      That's Zen, which -- despite its strong impact on the Western view of Buddhism -- is really a small part of Buddhism. Many, if not most, Buddhists follow some sort of devotional path where they believe that some Buddha or Bodhisattva will come down and give good little boys and girls a ride to Candyland.

      Sure, that's in contradiction to what (we think) the Buddha actually taught...but then, Jesus didn't say "if you don't work you don't eat", and Mohammad explicitly forbid the killing of women and children, so it's not like the Buddha is the only one whose legacy has been twisted.

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  19. Jee-Hovah by Itninja · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!

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    1. Re:Jee-Hovah by mr_death · · Score: 2, Funny

      "No one, is to stone anyone, until I blow this whistle ..."

      --
      It's Linux, damnit! Pay no attention to renaming attempts by self-aggrandizing blowhards.
    2. Re:Jee-Hovah by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      Now you've done it, you fool! You've gone and summoned the ghost of Biggie Smalls!

      --
      Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
  20. Who says he ain't a religious leader? by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He is promoting rules of how you should eat, a dietary law if you will. If he tells us how to run our sex lives and wears a funny hat, case closed.

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    1. Re:Who says he ain't a religious leader? by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, he's not directing how we should eat, he's trying to direct how we should change our concepts of personal property, right and wrong, and personal responsibility such that millions don't starve while other millions throw away food. His message could easily be construed as a modern day religious doctrine.

    2. Re:Who says he ain't a religious leader? by david_thornley · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The absolutely critical question is how he feels about spaghetti and meatballs.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    3. Re:Who says he ain't a religious leader? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful, seriously?

      This should be modded funny.

    4. Re:Who says he ain't a religious leader? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, he's not directing how we should eat, he's trying to direct how we should change our concepts of personal property, right and wrong, and personal responsibility such that millions don't starve while other millions throw away food.

      So, he's directing how we should eat, then?

      --
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  21. Rastafarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't this basically how Rastafarianism got started?

    1. Re:Rastafarianism by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      Yeah, pretty much. Also the worship of John Frum, and for some bloody stupid reason there's an island somewhere full of people who revere the Duke of Edinburgh. They may be the only culture on Earth he hasn't insulted.

      --
      Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
    2. Re:Rastafarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an entire country of folk who revere the Duke of Edinburgh - at least I've not met a fellow Scot who doesn't think he's the funniest aristocrat we've got. Ok well revere may not be the right word - but we would like to see more him in politically sensitive situations :P

  22. The crazies must be redirected by richardkelleher · · Score: 1

    You can't just deny something like this, with crazies, they must have another target. Figure out who is a likely suspect, a public figure, someone at work, a neighbor in your building who is particularly rude and say, "No, but I know who is." You already have credibility in their demented eyes, so a good portion of them should believe the redirection.

  23. Well ... by krou · · Score: 5, Funny

    Patel eventually wrote a message on his website stating categorically that he was not the Messiah

    I say you are Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few.

    --
    'If Christ had tweeted the sermon on the mount, it might have lasted until nightfall.' - John Perry Barlow
  24. Budhism is thought-slavery, mute, and inactive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    When the man balancing his thoughts awakens from his active rest, to do the work he surmised in his meditations, then he will be pulled by the parasites to adjust him to their contentions of religion regardless of his progress of harmony.

    Law is a matter of religion, constantly trolling your actions to it's courts for you to correct and elaborate you to inactivity; as gravity pulling a delicate fruit to a destructive fall, the most religious are the creatures that profess to have none, that demand your appreciation of their achievements credit to their name rather than kindness.

    Such as religion, to take away an unnumerable blessing to assign a number of it's own, and draw you in by it's wenches.

  25. "Since God has given us the Papacy, ..." by LionKimbro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was thinking more like Pope Leo X, who famously said: "Since God has given us the Papacy, let us enjoy it."

    He was a fun loving guy, gave tons of money away to the sick and to the poor, loved the arts and people of learning. He restored universities, gave more money to teachers, and on and on.

    There's a lot of negative things that could be said about him, but for some reason I have a difficult time calling them to mind.

    Raj Patel might want to consult the wisdom of Winston, after having consulted the wisdom of Brian.

    1. Re:"Since God has given us the Papacy, ..." by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Raj Patel might want to consult the wisdom of Winston, after having consulted the wisdom of Brian.

      "My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them."

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  26. Obviously another paid ad on Slashdot here... by gd23ka · · Score: 1

    We are obviously talking the "Share International" Maitreya cult here .. http://www.share-international.org/ You can shove it up your ass, Creme then take it out and shove it through the noses of the people paying you.

    The main idea behind the cult is there are a 40 some "Ascended Masters" here to guide humanity in the "New Age". Each of these masters will address a specific concern .. and those concerns are healthcare, economics, .. I think you get the picture. The idea is for us to step aside for 40 galactic "benevolent" dictators while they take over. I for one don't think so. I'm not sure if they are a spin-off of the "Ashtar Galactic Command" or if it is the other way around.

    1. Re:Obviously another paid ad on Slashdot here... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      From: http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2010/2010-03.htm (linked from their home page)

      Maitreya, we know, will never say Who He is until the Day of Declaration.

      Bad luck, saying you're not him will not help ...

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  27. He can get rid of them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All he has to do is ask for money and everyone will get disgusted and leave.

    That or he'll make tons of money.

    Come to think of it, his book sales are probably doing quite well. Why NOT be the messiah and use that influence to get people to eat better?

  28. Share International by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    Their website: http://www.share-international.org/

    They talk about his a lot on the main page (apparently they call him "Maitreya").
    And of course most of the stuff said is pretty ridiculous and funny.

    --
    Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
    1. Re:Share International by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's scary is just how widespread the belief really is.

      Some people call it the 'cosmic christ'. The idea is essentially that this person will unite all world religions under one umbrella. You know how there is so much relativism around as a big fad right now? (all of the pseudo intellectual hippy types with the "coexist" bumper stickers?)

      The idea is that this charismatic person will announce that everyone's religion has, at their respective cores, had it 'right' but that over the centuries mans opinions and perspectives led them all off track -- but now the 'genuine article' per say is here to set things straight.

      You'd be surprised to find out how many people endorse this sort of thing.

      I think what will be very interesting to see is just how many people jump on the bandwagon just to pat themselves on the back for knowing that there was something wrong with every other major religion.

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  30. Where's the Proof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like self-promotion. I highly doubt anyone e-mailed him.

    1. Re:Where's the Proof? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Their leader had to put out a message on the subject stating that Patel is merely inspired by the messiah:

      Q. I can’t seem to find any individuals who give me the feeling that Maitreya would give one if hearing him speak on television. I do not sense any people with any spiritual energy emanating from them when they speak. The closest thing to someone as an ordinary person is Raj Patel the author of The Value of Nothing who appeared on Democracy Now and the Colbert Report in 2010. He even travelled from India to London in 1977. However he doesn’t seem to talk much about creating a new civilization based on sharing and justice as much as one would expect Maitreya to do. Is he in fact just an ordinary man inspired by Maitreya?Also he denied being Maitreya but agrees with your ideas and purpose.

      A. The ideas of Maitreya have penetrated all planes for many years and thousands of people are ‘inspired’ by these ideas.

      http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2010/2010-03.htm

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  31. I loved this part by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "There have been similar cases in the past, including Steve Cooper, an unemployed man from Tooting, south London, who was identified by a Hindu sect as the reincarnation of a goddess and now lives in a temple in Gujurat with scores of followers."

    you out of work, out of money, at your lowest and then a bunch of people claim you are a Goddess and takes you to their temple and pampers you.

    Man, what a day. or maybe not:

    http://www.southasianpost.com/portal2/ff80808111f169c20111fc7c4cdc0047_Steve_Cooper__Hindu_god.do.html

    OTOH I wonder if anyone checked up on him? He might need help. I mean, we are talking about cultist. Better pack up the Tommy and dynamite.

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    1. Re:I loved this part by Maniacal · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ok. WTF. Is the South Asian Post the eastern equivalent to the Onion? There is no way that's a real story. What a riot. I love this line FTFA:

      He lives among 80 eunuchs — castrated men — at the temple. But some have their doubts that he is equipped to be a goddess. A eunuch called Sudha said: “He is a fake. I checked and he still has a penis."

      There's another line further down in which a woman says she's going to see Steve because her sister did and immediately got pregnant. Looks like goddess Steve has been using his penis to do the blessings :)

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      MG
    2. Re:I loved this part by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Another woman, Rekha, said she had travelled for days to be blessed by Steve. She added: "My sister-in-law came here and she got pregnant immediately."

      He lives among 80 eunuchs -- castrated men -- at the temple. But some have their doubts that he is equipped to be a goddess. A eunuch called Sudha said: "He is a fake. I checked and he still has a penis."

      Hmm...

      --

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  32. Story Time! by Lifyre · · Score: 4, Funny

    My unit had our own little Monty Python story in Iraq.

    We were watching Holy Grail in the shop late when a core switch caught fire shortly followed by it's neighbor so now it goes...

    "What do we burn?"

    "SWITCHES!"

    "What else do we burn?"

    "MORE SWITCHES"

    --
    I'll meet you at the intersection of "Should be" and "Reality"
    1. Re:Story Time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Many ages ago, my ship went around the Horn. Before we left we all chipped in for a vcr player (ages ago, remember) but sadly forgot to get but 2 tapes, Monty Python and the Holy Grail was one, of course, the other was a really bizarre porno called "I like to watch" (which if I remember had the redeeming feature of all the music being done by kazoo's played by the actors and actresses. yes in the nude. awesome...)

      As we went through the Straits of Magellan, penguins swam around us, and my crew asked me, "You know everything, are penguins birds or fishes?"

      Of course I replied "Do they not float?"

      "Burn the Penguins!" They cried and ran about the decks like the heathens they were.

      My Division Officer came out to the main deck about that time, looked at my guys, looked at me and asked "Do I even want to know?"

      I told him "just be glad we didn't have any kazoos."

      no, I didn't, I told him "monty python fans."

      "Ah" he said as he went back inside.

    2. Re:Story Time! by Bryan3000000 · · Score: 1

      This is one of the funniest comments I've ever read.

  33. I would love it by jlb.think · · Score: 1

    This would be awesome. Simply set up a web page where people can donate to help you carry out your messianic duties, sit back, and collect a shit load of cash.

    It would be no worse than what the fifty churches in my town do. Plus instead of using the money for purely evil reasons you could do the world favor and donate it to the ACLU, Richard Dawkins Foundation For Reason and Science, the Reason Project, or cancer research. There are a millions things that could be done with that money, after taking a hefty sum for yourself, of course.

    1. Re:I would love it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus instead of using the money for purely evil reasons you could do the world favor and donate it to the ACLU...

      WTF?

  34. Budha crucified with Christ. Bless the wicked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To kill someone is to render them neutral for their carnal desires that induce the world to be sinful.

    The greater question is even the same as the messiah has done, how would we kill someone without causing ill-will to them? How would we know that the jews were forgiven from killing the messiah, because as is to Kaan/Cohen that whomever curses we are to bless. Redemption is in the hands of whomever is thought offended, yet to offend messiah is impossible because he is at war against principles of darkness that evil spirit.

    When messiah was crucified to death for only a moment, it was enough to dip into hell to save those that abode only in Torah with the promise of messiah to save them. The conclusion the Son of Man is to have, to offer up three offerings (Ewe, Lamb, and Ram) to fulfill his oath and here we would see Jesus the Christ and two others liften in the air crucified before the doors of Heaven to fulfill his oath at the perverted hands of jews that knew they would be blessed for their malcontent.

  35. Funny you should mention that... by Chicken_Kickers · · Score: 1, Troll

    As a Muslim, I am fond of quoting from Hadiths (the authenticated sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) and also from the Quran in daily life. Funnily enough, I get the same vibe when you, the AC, quoted all these sayings by famous Atheists or agnostics. I think it is time that evangelical Atheists (as opposed to real atheists who unobtrusively go about their business) accept the fact that they are members of the Church of the god Null and are no different that Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists etc. in their zeal to preach the one true faith.

    1. Re:Funny you should mention that... by internic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In many cases I'd agree with you about evangelical Atheists, as you call them, but in this case the parent to your post was only correcting the incorrect (but widely held) notion that the US founding fathers were all devout Christians in the conventional sense, so it wasn't really evangelism, nor is that poster necessarily even an atheist.

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    2. Re:Funny you should mention that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What makes your religion so much more real than the flying spaghetti monster, anyway?

    3. Re:Funny you should mention that... by fredmosby · · Score: 1

      At least in the U.S. none of the 'founding fathers' are recognized as atheists. It's common for 'right wingers' to say that the U.S. was founded on religious principles, therefore it's ok to write laws based on religious ideals. These quotes are meant to cast doubt on that notion, rather than to support atheism.

      The whole debate about what the founding fathers wanted is misguided. They were human just like the rest of us. We shouldn't assume that their judgement was perfect and try to divine their intentions. We should try to write laws that are fair regardless of what the founders of this country wanted. Writing the beliefs of one religion into law is not fair to the rest of us.

    4. Re:Funny you should mention that... by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Nice rant, but the quotes all came from well known believers in God.

      Thomas Paine - Deist and authour of The Age of Reason in which he professes his faith for one God.

      George Washington - Christian (Church of England) serving in the church council.

      Thomas Jefferson - Deist and famously defended himself against claims he was atheist in the 1800 election.

      James Madison - Unknown, but certainly not atheist. Educated by Presbyterian ministers he considered joining the clergy before moving on to study law. He attended church throughout his life and prayed with his family.

      The thing is, they all believed in God, just not always in the standard orthodoxy or any paticular church. They were religious men who promoted tolerance of all faiths, and those of no faith.

    5. Re:Funny you should mention that... by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Insightful
      as opposed to real atheists who unobtrusively go about their business

      Ah, you don't mind atheists, as long as we shut up and let you get on with implementing your superstitious agenda for society, eh? Personally, I rather like a culture where, for instance, I can draw whatever cartoons I like, regardless of what your sacred traditions might say to the contrary. I like living in a culture where I can readily obtain contraceptives, regardless of how terribly sinful the Pope might think they are - and then proceed to use them with the consenting adult partner of my choice, whether or not I have gone through any kind of ritual or ceremony beforehand. In general I'm perfectly happy as long as Catholics and Muslims and the rest of them unobtrusively go about their business, but I am terribly offended whenever they try to impose their own peculiar rules on the rest of us. Offended, yes, and insulted.

      So I'll happily go about my own business and never mention anything about whether there's a god or not, as long as you all do the same. Keep your superstitions to yourselves and you'll hear no quarrel from me.

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  36. It probably means I'm a bad person by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    But yeah, I thought the same thing too. "Blessed is he who pays my electricity bill this month!"

    Live gives you lemons, make lemonade. I've always been that kind of a guy.

    --
    Weaselmancer
    rediculous.
  37. Yes Well... by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Informative

    Being the Messiah, he's not the sort of fellow who would do that sort of thing! That's why he's the Messiah and you're not!

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  38. No... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby."

  39. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version) by drkim · · Score: 1

    Sorry Stephen, but:
    Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)
    10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

  40. Raj Patel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Raj Patel’s life story does not at all “tick all the boxes necessary to fulfill prophecies made by Benjamin Creme”.
    According to Creme, the world teacher, unlike Mr. Patel, was NOT borne in London, neither in 1972 nor in any other year, but came from Pakistan to the UK in 1975, already as a grown up man.
    For people correctly knowing Benjamin Creme’s information, this is enough to be sure that Mr. Patel could not possibly Maitreya, the world teacher. It is, therefore, highly unlikely that it were they who produced this hoax.
    Apart from this, the concerns of Mr. Patel on the issues of world poverty are shared by Maitreya. He will call on humanity to end starvation, and to make sure that everybody will have access to proper health care, proper education and proper housing. These, his first priorities, are not those of ‘a religious sect’, (the people supporting Creme are not organized in anything like it).
    If you care to look for yourself rather than to read rumours:
    http://www.share-international.org/

    Miranda Bles

  41. How could this story be so wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've just had a look at this Share International Website about Maitreya, and was surprised to find that Raj Patel didn't meet ANY of the criteria for Creme's Prophesies.?
    For a starter - This Maitreya fella flew from Pakistan to London in 1977 as a fully grown adult, not from India as a 5 year old like Patel. Looks like a media beat-up.

  42. Re:2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

    That was Paul, not Jesus. And, I've never trusted Paul. His version of Christianity seems unlike that espoused by Jesus.

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  43. This is just one of those... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    This is just one of those funny situations that seems whatever he tries to do to not be the messiah aforementioned, he makes it worse because it was prophesied (in a very silly manner) that he would try to deny any of it. So by denying it, he makes it worse, and so on, instead I would have made myself their king and told them i need as much gold as i could get my hands that they need to find for me, to build my spaceship, and once i got enough gold to retire, would move to the cayman islands....but that is just me.

  44. Re:2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

    Sorry Stephen, but: Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)..."If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

    ...which, not being attributed to Jesus but rather to the nutcase known as Saul or Paul, who didn't even know the guy, 1) does not contradict my statement, and 2) if genuine (some scholars doubt the attribution of this letter), is a fine example of how J's teachings were being perverted within a few decades of his death.

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  45. Guys, always remember: by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    If anyone ever asks you if you are a God, say YES! (The same is true for messiahood.)

    Then demand free sex and being fed and all, or the world will go down in flames! Word!
    And remember: You can be as nasty as you like. As long as it’s legal. ^^
    Because, maybe you will cure a few of them from their delusions that way. :)

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