Navy Wants Cyber Weapons That Shoot Data Beams
ectotherm writes "By 2018, the US Navy hopes to equip its fighter jets with the ability to shoot data streams containing 'specialized waveforms and algorithms,' useful in an electronic attack or cyber-invasion. A few non-classified details here."
I'm just asking?
i can shoot a stream of information...
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The link is broken, how did this pass editing?
So now we're trying to rick-roll enemy pilots in dog fights?
I read TFA and all I got was this lousy cookie
Electronic Warfare has been around since at least WWII but the idea that airplanes are going to be hacking anything more sophisticated than a WiFi network at Mach 2 is dubious. Sure, they have been able to own spectrum, but owning devices is a whole other story. With the advent of cheap system on chip solutions that include robust cryptographic silicon it will not be long before China and Russia are integrating that or better in their domestic and for export weapon systems.
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...they're shooting data beams at our Gibson! Release the Da Vinci virus!!!
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,212940,00.html&hl=en&strip=1
The article predates April 1.
Typical DARPA. They'll put research funding into any idea that they've seen on Star Trek or read in a book somewhere.
The problem with "Cyber attacks" and "cyber space" is that they are too darn easy to defend against. Protecting your computers and hardware against a software virus is about as easy as protecting yourself from nerf gun darts. People get careless, and hackers get through, but it requires incompetence on the part of the system admins to not isolate critical systems from the damn internet. Most of the credit card processor breaches occurred because the company running it didn't put basic barriers in between the computers with the card data and the internal company network.
So it's kinda far fetched to plan on 0wnzoring your opponent's radars remotely by sending out data packets taking advantage of an exploit that your opponent can just patch with a firmware upgrade.
I'm sure Navy guys have a lot of practice shooting coded "information" at each other during long stretches at sea.
Someone's been watching too much TRON lately...
"Kit, deactivate the burglar alarm for me". Hot chick blathers about microwave jammers and Michael picks the lock. Walks in and gets hit on the head with a 5 dollar crescent wrench.
Seriously, could you insert a memory wipe trojan in an embedded control computer for a radar guidance system, with this thing? Or are they thinking about emulating a flock of birds or something like that?
Interesting link.
but that's not gonna fucking happen either.
finish them off with a 500!
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
thats only equivalent to ~375 megabytes
O.o
Uh-huh. The weapon is easy, convincing the enemy to add a weak point is the only snag.
Ooh! It's got waveforms! And algorithms!!
Okay, I'll assume that we infiltrate the enemy to attach an access point. Couldn't we just park a truck nearby and use a lower-power antenna? Or use an unsecured access point?
will say "Linksys" "Linksys". Then all the evil Matrix data will pour in and wreak havoc!
Since when is Ted Stevens designing weapons systems for the Navy?
Do a search someday on " Information Wars 2025, Air Force". The information is not always for machines. Our soldiers will have protection from nervous system interference. While the 'terrorists' will hear, feel, and see, etc what ever we project onto them. Ever notice how the Slashdot war helmet resembles the tin-foil hat?
I think it is all wasteful, but let them make all these things so complicated that only a genius could control them and finally we might have some intelligent leadership. Of course it might be SkyNet, but then we could have a really cool FPS that programmed itself. Then we could hide in caves and send cyborg drones to fight them and our drones would become sentient and then we could just use all the security camera feeds to watch the show.
And if the whole thing started making us feel guilty we could just give a jolt to our right temporo-parietal junction (RTPJ) and be all better.
In the future the soldiers will not be selected by how many pull ups they can do, but how many pencils they have in their pocket protector.
Great. It's a spam gun. Way to go Uncle Sam. This thing has to contravene the Geneva Convention for inhumane weapons.
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Let's hope this time they can figure out how to let the F-23/24/25/2whatever distinguish between a surface-to-air missile battery and a microwave oven emitter planted on a hospital.
That would be good. Maybe then they can take on the nine-year-old script kiddies and give them the spanking they deserve with this new data-stream shooter. With luck, they'll bring the project home at less than $3 trillion.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
They could project goatse links into the enemy planes computers and while they are distracted, send a missile up their tailpipe. Oops, that might be a bad metaphor.
Looks like their funding procedure was hacked by skr1pt kiddies.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
I'm pretty sure they already have similar things out there, electronic warfare planes to jam radar and guidance missiles. This just moves it from analog to digital systems.
Go find the opening mini-series to the more recent Battlestar Galactica series, and watch the Cylons against the squads of Viper MkVIIs... There you go.
Ahhh, I've been laser'd!
Will everyone please stop ridiculing this article!
We must "shoot data streams containing 'specialized waveforms and algorithms" or the terrorists win!
So they'll need a Powerbook to transmit the virus.
It sounds to me like some Navy chief forgot to secure his home wifi access point, and someone leeched his Internet service or grabbed files from his Windows shares. "If these cyber-crooks are smart enough to hack my internets over the wireless, then maybe we can use some of Uncle Sam's loyal boys to do the same to those darn commies!"
the ac's "mirror" is a reported attack site... Is that enough for an IP ban?
Isn't this how the Cylons killed most of the colonial tech?
Shot in a beam of data via the ECM systems and activated the "kill switch" 6 had planted in the new software.
As long as they could get the exploitable code into the system this might work.
Cue the "Windows for Warplanes" jokes...
So what you are saying is not only are we talking about war-driving at hypersonic speeds, but we're also bombing away at the Great Firewall of China in the process. I get it. Sort of like Top Gun meets The Matrix.
Only please God, please don't let Tom Cruise ever be Nemo, Mr. Anderson; whatever. No.
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
The Marines are looking for some kind of portable unicorn weapon. which can fire rainbows from it's horn to infiltrate the hearts of evil men.
A buffer overflow attack through the radar/sigint aperture into a Mig-29 is rather a stretch.
My guess is that they will first focus on taking down UAVs made by terrorists. Those types of aircrafts will most likley use the public part of GPS. That signal is *easy* to overpower and/or fake. Same for control signals used by ordinary radio controlled crafts.
Break the sound barrier - bring the noise.
Data beams onto the enemy ship to save Riker who has been taken hostage by the aliens.
In other words, once.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
If the Navy really wants to kill people with excessive input, I know several people I could introduce them to. A few minutes of listening to these people and you want to kill yourself to get away as they never, ever, stop talking.
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- Enemy ship in view, Capt'n!
- Good! Let's BSOD the hell out of them!
- Capt'n! It appears they run Linux!
- Crap!
Mostly harmless.
No surprise here: EMP weapons are not discriminate enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse
Hivemind harvest in progress..
Electromagnetic pulse?
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At least he didn't call it "Squirting"
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Falco went on to explain that the data beams would be fitted to their Arwings, enabling him, Fox, Peppy and Slippy to defeat Andross.