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Possible New Hominid Species Discovered, Thanks To Google Earth
mindbrane writes "The BBC is reporting on fossil finds 'uncovered in cave deposits near Malapa in the Cradle of Humankind World Heritage Site near Johannesburg.' The fossils of a mature female and juvenile male have '...small teeth, projecting nose, very advanced pelvis, and long legs ...' suggesting more modern forms. 'And yet its very long arms and small brain case might echo the much older Australopithecine group to which Professor Berger and colleagues have assigned it.' Aside from the debate as to classification, the find is noteworthy in that its discovery came about 'thanks to the "virtual globe" software Google Earth, which allowed the group to map and visualise the most promising fossil grounds in the World Heritage Site.' Further, the find in a cave bears the hallmarks of chance that often plays so large a part in fossilisation. 'Their bones were laid down with the remains of other dead animals, including a sabre-toothed cat, antelope, mice and rabbits. The fact that none of the bodies appear to have been scavenged indicates that all died suddenly and were entombed rapidly.'"
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thanks to the "virtual globe" software Google Earth, which allowed the group to map and visualise the most promising fossil grounds
These are scientists who busy themselves with "finding stuff at locations". Did they really not have access to map software that offered similar features long before Google Earth?
The researchers identified the fossils of at least 25 other species of animals, including saber-toothed cats, a wildcat, a brown hyena, a wild dog, antelopes, and a horse in the cave as well.
Also, I thought this was interesting:
"Before this discovery, you could pretty much fit the entire record of fossils that are candidates for the origin of the genus Homo from this time period onto a small table. But, with the discovery of Australopithecus sediba and the wealth of fossils we've recovered -- and are recovering* -- that has changed dramatically," Berger said.
Keep digging guys!!!
*bold mine
I'm imagening, as they used caves for living and spoiling a decent cave giving protection and housing was used as a "burial" or dumpster is unlikely, the cave was uninhabitable by humans for one or another reason. A likely scenario seems to be that the young and unknowingly couple ran off to have some funky frisky time, ended up in a cave inhabited by preditors and got owned. A predator yet unknown, but one that can eat animals from the size of a mouse up to a sabretooth tiger without biting marks.
As there are no biting marks or "scavenging", or disallowing inhabitation it must've been a might impressive beast eating those creatures without teeth. I propose a blob of ooze or slime which liquified, slowly and horribly, those creatures alive while holding them down with their tentacles of doom while floating in the air with lighteningbols-shooting eyes.
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
Millions of years ago, Africa was a continent teeming with life and different varieties of life. As the continents shifted and mountain ranges like the Himalayas rose to block crucial winds to Saharan Africa, the lucky species were able to get out and into Europe and Asia. The not so lucky ones dried up in the desert or learned to survive in the lean environment of the savanna. As European and Asian lifeforms grew more diverse, this giant continent became a sort of Lost World separated from the rest of the world by a large, and largely impassible, desert.
We like to talk about Drake's equation, but sometimes just looking at our planet reveals how unlikely intelligent life is, given how close we as a species came to never being.
The defining characteristic of science is that it needs to be able to make testable predictions.
And to test whether or not evolution is valid science, I suggest the following evolutionist-worldview based prediction: Half of creationists will categorize this fossil as fully human, the other half will classify it as fully ape.
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I never cease to be amazed and geekily interested in the vast number of applications that people find with for Google maps & earth data.
That and the GPS are, for me, great examples of the gov/military and private enterprise really giving something back to the community.
Now if only we can have street maps & associated guidance software of the same quality as the commercial stuff.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/ is a good start, but it has a long way to go...
Either that or all the animals fell into a hole and became trapped over the course of a few years.
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Upon entering the cave it is pitch dark. Therefore, they all were eaten by a grue.
It never ceases to amaze me that people do not put together that free software is far superior to pay-for software. This type of data has always been available, for high cost, to those who were able to acquire it (ArcView for example) and be trained to use it. With the advent of Google Earth people can still access much of that ArcView stuff (with SHP2KML conversion) and use this information for a wide range of research.
Say what you want about Google's privacy scares but some of the shit they've put out is absolutely wonderful for those of us more interested in spending our money on what's important.
I saw the headline, and immediately thought that Google Earth had finally got around to photographing Falkirk
Indeed. The news should be "Google Earth lets scientists make discoveries... a bit cheaper than previously" - it still required specialist analytical knowledge, and honestly the story stands on its own as a scientific piece without the technology tie in, surely?
When this came out on the local news websites yesterday, a few claimed these finds where "a new species of ancient descendants of modern-day humans" (*), along with other bad logic/grammar. My first thought is that these might have been the love children of one one Julius Malema. Then again, it might just have been that the journalists have procreated....
(* = In the mean time edited and corrected, but at the moment still viewable on this British site. Or in Google's caches).
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
Maybe it was some sort of burial ritual? Just an idea.
Indeed. ...The story stands on its own as a scientific piece without the technology tie in, surely?
Absolutely. But "Google Earth: Serious Research Tool" is story-worthy in its own right.
Sounds like an offering to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster...
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The story is basically "Some foobarologists used a computer a bit".
Coming up later, "Grahite solves the DNA conundrum!" And why not - I'm sure Watson & Crick owned at least one pencil between them.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Scientists have been using aerial photography for such purposes practically since the dawn of aviation (when it was noticed that things could be seen from the air that couldn't from the ground).
As a long time reader of Science Fiction, I am interested that no SF writer (to my knowledge) ever predicted GPS. They predicted many other things that we now have (and, of course, tons of stuff that we don't have and probably never will have). But nobody seems ever realized how useful it is to have a device that quietly, cheaply, and easily tells you exactly where you are. Possibly they never put it together with the other necessary component for most applications: cheap, fast, low power storage of a few hundred megabytes of map data,
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There are a number of issues that have some scientists skeptical that the newly found Australopithecus Sediba is our ancestor. One is that Homo habilis is significantly older (by around half a million years), and is more human-like than Australopithecus Sediba. The other is that the anatomy simply does not fall into line with the other specimens. The length of the arms, etc, seem a step backwards. Perhaps it was a parallel branch that died out.
It's hard to argue this is the ancestor of Homo when it's occurring much later than the earliest members of the genus Homo by half a million years," said anthropologist Brian Richmond of George Washington University in Washington, D.C.
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This quote from Matthew Berger, son of Professor Lee Berger, was posted on Good Morning Silicon Valley today.
http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2010/04/quoted-matt-i-told-you-to-stop-playing-around-while-were-whoa.html
“I turned the rock over and I saw the clavicle sticking out — that’s the collar bone. I didn’t know what it was at first; I thought it was just an antelope. So I called my dad over and about five meters away he started swearing, and I was like ‘What did I do wrong?’ and he’s like, ‘Nothing, nothing — you found a hominid’.”
I want to know why they were "suddenly entombed" together - what was going on outside that they all died in the cave together - it would seem strange to me to have that combination together (or is "suddenly" a geologic thing where one died in one year and another five years later?)
Sounds like they could've used a GIS or other software as well, it's not that they spotted something on Google Earth and went "Hey ma, look at this!"
There is specialized software for this. There is even a whole new GIS/Archaeology field with its own name: Predictive Modelling.
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I'm reading Asimov's works and I'm always surprised that he never predicted:
1. The Internet - he had scientists creating an "Encyclopedia Galactica" when it was feared that all science knowledge would be lost. We just use Wikipedia!
2. Cellphones - Trimensional viewing is horribly inconvenient. Often the characters don't know where others are. Now we just give them a call
3. Ebooks - He predicted film strips which are inconvenient and need to be borrowed from a library. Nuff said.
He wrote some mind blowing stuff though...
I want to know why they were "suddenly entombed" together - what was going on outside that they all died in the cave together - it would seem strange to me to have that combination together (or is "suddenly" a geologic thing where one died in one year and another five years later?)
According to the article, it sounds like they got trapped in some kind of pit inside a cave. There were animal remains in the pit as well, so they probably weren't the first things to end up there.
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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.