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Google Enumerates Government Requests

D H NG writes "In the aftermath of Google's exit from mainland China, it had sought to be more open about what it censors. Google has launched a new tool to track the number of government requests targeted at Google and YouTube. These include both requests for data and requests to take down data. A quick look at the tool shows that Brazil is the top country in both categories (largely because Orkut is popular there), and information for China cannot be disclosed because 'Chinese officials consider censorship demands as state secrets.' As part of its four-part plan, Google hopes to change the behavior of repressive governments, establish guiding principles for dealing with issues of free expression, build support online to protest repression, and better provide resources and support for developing technology designed to combat and circumvent Internet censorship."

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  1. Any second now. by moogied · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Queue the people explaining how this is evil because its "not enough".

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    1. Re:Any second now. by zill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cue the grammar nazis too while you're at it.

    2. Re:Any second now. by Animaether · · Score: 4, Funny

      Given the error, queueing the grammar nazis might not be such a bad idea.

    3. Re:Any second now. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google is trying to keep its employees and former employees out of prison. You do realize that these requests made by the Chinese government were processed in part by Chinese employees of Google, yes? Well if Google airs all the requests in violation of Chinese law, guess who ends up in pound-you-in-the-ass prison? It's not Larry and Sergey. I'm glad that Google has conscience enough not to throw its current and former Chinese employees under the bus just to make political hay or accomplish a goal, however admirable that goal may be.

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  2. Go Canada! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I have something else to distinguish myself from our brothers to the south besides a ridiculous accent and a distinct smell of maple syrup!

    1. Re:Go Canada! by MrWiggum · · Score: 5, Interesting

      To bad those numbers aren't per capita. If you consider that the population of the United States is roughly 9 times that of Canada. Then Canada has more removal requests per capita.

    2. Re:Go Canada! by Urban+Garlic · · Score: 5, Funny

      > I can drive for 3 hours in any given direction and not hit another city with a population over 2000

      I used to have a car like that...

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  3. Why? by MrTripps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So why can't Google tell China to go pound sand and post them anyway? They can always blame it on some anonymous hacker, say the data was found in a bar, or just slip it to Wiki Leaks.

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    1. Re:Why? by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Possibly because they still have people in china that will be arrested, found guilty and executed if google went that far.

    2. Re:Why? by D+H+NG · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because this is what happens to people who "leak" "state secrets".

  4. Transparent, benign big brother? by sznupi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think Orwell saw that one coming...

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  5. Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A quick look at the tool shows that Brazil is the top country in both categories (largely because Orkut is popular there)

    The reason Brazil is the top country is not only due to Orkut's popularity, but because many Brazilian laws were designed to limit freedom of speech and free enterprise. Anyone remember this?

    A significant part of these government requests is probably tied to lawsuits involving Adwords. In the past, companies have been sued and found guilty for using their competitors' names as keywords in Adwords, for example. This practice is perfectly legal in most countries, including the US.

    I wonder if Google can make this popular enough to pressure countries into changing their laws.

  6. Brazilian Censorship by acid06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a Brazilian, I'm glad this exposes a situation which isn't usually discussed but should be given more attention now that Brazil is trying to gain additional worldwide relevance (through G20 and all that).

    Brazilian courts have been extremely unreasonable and have forced Google to hand over private information and take down pages without much fanfare. Even though none of the data is actually hosted in Brazil, the courts have fined and threatened to fine Google several times because of this.

    In Brazil, service providers have liability for their users actions and there are laws protecting the "private image" of individuals (even celebrities). In effect, paparazzi can be sued around here. Journalists can be sued and bloggers aren't considered journalists. Writing a story denouncing a politician can get you a lawsuit.

    All this mess accounts for a lot of these requests. Google isn't being evil, but I wish there was more international pressure against the Brazilian government.

    1. Re:Brazilian Censorship by vbraga · · Score: 5, Informative

      Writing a story denouncing a politician can get you a lawsuit.

      More likely, it will get you a lawsuit for libel.

      Brazilian law is very repressive. It's ranked as "Partly Free" by the Freedom House on its Map of Press Freedom.

      Unfortunately, public awareness for this kind of issue is very low.

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