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The World's First Full Face Transplant

Dave Knott writes "A thirty-member Spanish medical team has achieved the world's first full face transplant. There have been ten previous similar operations, but this is claimed to be the first total transplant, replacing all of the face including some bones. The unnamed recipient originally injured himself in a shooting accident, and received the entire facial skin and muscles — including cheekbones, nose, lips and teeth — of a donor. The complex operation involved extraction of the donor's face, followed by removal of the jaw, nose, cheeks and parts of the eye cavities. Then the medical team took all of the donor face's soft tissue, including musculature, veins and nerves. In order to transplant the face, the medical team has to connect four jugular veins, extract bones and join all the musculature and blood vessels. The recipient has had a chance to see himself in the mirror, and is reportedly satisfied with the results. It is unknown whether he now looks more like John Travolta or Nicolas Cage." The pictures and videos in the linked articles are all computer-generated at this point, so the squeamish need not worry.

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  1. The Results? by hags2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would be interested to see before/after pictures of the recipient.

    1. Re:The Results? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the before picture of the donor (I don't think I want to see the after picture there).

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    2. Re:The Results? by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Can they handle a half ass transplant?

    3. Re:The Results? by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was a trade!

    4. Re:The Results? by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think that would sit well.

    5. Re:The Results? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      My kingdom for a mod point!

    6. Re:The Results? by Doggabone · · Score: 1

      Or a clever rebuttal.

  2. The donor? by urusan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where did they get a spare face? Faces are rather hard to come by.

    1. Re:The donor? by hey · · Score: 1

      Gimme back my face.

    2. Re:The donor? by Yamata+no+Orochi · · Score: 1

      A donor, it said. Pay attention. Where do you think they get organs and shit for transplants? Dead people with donor cards.

    3. Re:The donor? by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      A donor, it said. Pay attention. Where do you think they get organs and shit for transplants? Dead people with donor cards.

      Uh, who could possibly need a shit transplant?

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    4. Re:The donor? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Where do you think they get organs and shit for transplants?

      They now also transplant shit?

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    5. Re:The donor? by Pointy+McButterpants · · Score: 5, Informative

      Uh, who could possibly need a shit transplant?

      Actually.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy

    6. Re:The donor? by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy

      They use live donors for that though.

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    7. Re:The donor? by pavon · · Score: 1

      Not all junior politicians can keep up with the vast volume of shit generated by seasoned veterans. It is sad reality that many ambitious young people now turn to supplements to keep up in this highly competitive field.

    8. Re:The donor? by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      Fecal transplants are illegal in the US, but in certain rare circumstances (such as an otherwise untreatable C. diff infection) they can be life saving.

      -Peter

    9. Re:The donor? by BigDukeSix · · Score: 1

      Modern medicine has no sense of humor. There is a form of colitis caused by Clostridium difficile which results from destruction of the normal colonic flora by antibiotic use. It frequently recurs and can be lethal. There is currently on ongoing clinical trial evaluating the use of stool transplantation to prevent recurrence of this infection.

    10. Re:The donor? by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's it... donors...

      "Doctor you did an amazing job, but why do I look like Chinese, and what is this number tattooed on the back of my new neck?"

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    11. Re:The donor? by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whoa. I learn something new and disgusting every day. Thanks Internet!

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    12. Re:The donor? by spun · · Score: 2, Funny

      Okay, now this is more along the lines of what I was trying to set up. See, I provide the funny lead in, someone else makes the punch line. But a big 'thanks!' to all those corny, nutty folks who felt compelled to let us all know that, yes, there really is such a thing as a shit transplant. I'm sure we all feel relieved knowing that, as if a big load has dropped off our, uh, shoulders. Lets all try to do our duty and keep each other informed. But this thing is getting pretty long now, and I feel pooped.

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    13. Re:The donor? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Where did they get a spare face? Faces are rather hard to come by.

      From Facebook. All users are donors. Read the fine print in their terms of use.

      The bit about "Donors do not have to be deceased for their face to be donated" is especially frightening.

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    14. Re:The donor? by jdoverholt · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm only slightly surprised that such a transplant exists, but why are so many Slashdotters so familiar with it?

    15. Re:The donor? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      When I read that, I sh*t bricks.

    16. Re:The donor? by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      They held a face off.

    17. Re:The donor? by markass530 · · Score: 1

      Yea it was in a house episode

    18. Re:The donor? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Thank you, Fecal Vision!

    19. Re:The donor? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Politicians... Don't they already have a spare face?

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    20. Re:The donor? by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      Only they don't call them donors - they call them fetishists.

    21. Re:The donor? by Binestar · · Score: 1

      In my case I blame Stumbleupon. Found an article about it under Society -> Bizarre Oddities a few months back.

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    22. Re:The donor? by by+(1706743) · · Score: 1

      Where did they get a spare face? Faces are rather hard to come by.

      You want a face? I can get you a face, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me... Hell, I can get you a face by 3 o'clock this afternoon...these fucking amateurs...

    23. Re:The donor? by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      I learn something new and disgusting every day.

      My new sig, when I get tired of this one - or possibly for use on other forums.

    24. Re:The donor? by paulej72 · · Score: 1

      It was on an episode of Gray's Anatomy.

    25. Re:The donor? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Nah, the usual pattern in OE derived strong verbs is i->a->u. Ex: Sing, sang, sung; drink, drank, drunk; swim, swam, swum. So we get: shit, shat, shut.

      OR, we could not be pedantic about it and accept that in the common usage of the verb 'to shit' it simply isn't conjugated.

    26. Re:The donor? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      As above, yes. You're way past the mark on this one.

    27. Re:The donor? by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      isn't the past tense of "shit" "shat"?
      i doubt he's been shooting bricks. that's rather counterproductive..

    28. Re:The donor? by JasonBee · · Score: 1

      They actually do that now. It's called a fecal transplant and it helps people recover from massive intestinal infections where subsequent antibiotic routines have wiped out all the good flora/bacteria. Sounds weird but true!

    29. Re:The donor? by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      Fecal means poop.

      -Peter

  3. Injured his face in a shooting accident ? by unity100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    it seems that dick cheney is still about.

    1. Re:Injured his face in a shooting accident ? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it was a shotgun suicide attempt with an airsoft.

    2. Re:Injured his face in a shooting accident ? by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      Make sure you keep the camp fire burning through the night and sleep with your eyes open! It's said that the Cheney still lurks in these woods! BOOGAABOOOGAABOOOO!!!!!

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  4. Castor Troy beware by Mabbo · · Score: 1

    FBI Special Agent Sean Archer now has a new weapon against you.

  5. Damn it, Dick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The unnamed recipient originally injured himself in a shooting accident...

    Dick Cheney needs to stop shooting his friends in the face.

    How on Earth does he even get friends in the first place?

    1. Re:Damn it, Dick! by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      This was always my reaction to Jessica Fletcher in Murder, She Wrote. Every week for 12 years, one of her closest friends would get knocked off, and she would have to step in and solve the murder. And yet she still had friends! You'd think after a while people would figure out that being her friend was hazardous to their health, wouldn't you? Personally, I would have suspected she was offing them herself and framing other people for it pretty early on.

      So, what exactly do you think the reaction down at the country club is like when Cheney rolls in and asks, "Hey! Anybody wanna go huntin'?"

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    2. Re:Damn it, Dick! by hasdikarlsam · · Score: 1

      He threatened to shoot me in the face!

      Help! I want out!

    3. Re:Damn it, Dick! by NotOverHere · · Score: 1

      Let me give you a hint..

      It involves advanced interrogation techniques and water.
      He swears that it's not torture! But only if you really, really believe!

    4. Re:Damn it, Dick! by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      This was always my reaction to Jessica Fletcher in Murder, She Wrote. Every week for 12 years, one of her closest friends would get knocked off, and she would have to step in and solve the murder.

      She must be the most successful serial killer of all times because every time she moves somewhere a murder happens shortly after that. And she gets away with it too. Coincidence? I think not.

      I'm also surprised that there are still some people alive in Midsomer.

    5. Re:Damn it, Dick! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It's like the village where Miss Marple lives, it must have the highest murder rate in the world. Ever.

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  6. Now it's a medical procedure... by Cruciform · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just wait until this becomes a cosmetic procedure for the rich. A few years of refinement and advances in microsurgery, and then they'll be raising clones of rich people in jungle compounds down in Brazil...

    1. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by Jahava · · Score: 1

      Just wait until this becomes a cosmetic procedure for the rich. A few years of refinement and advances in microsurgery, and then they'll be raising clones of rich people in jungle compounds down in Brazil...

      That and/or having attractive poor people selling their faces on the black market...

    2. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Gives a whole new meaning to facelifting ...

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    3. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

      Right, because anti-rejection drugs and a face full of nerve damage are waaaaay better than a few wrinkles.

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    4. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by BoppreH · · Score: 1

      jungle compounds down in Brazil

      +3 Interesting? What, do you think this is the Lost island and we are stuck in the 16th century?

    5. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Right, because anti-rejection drugs and a face full of nerve damage are waaaaay better than a few wrinkles.

      I won't respond on the anti-rejection drugs... but a face full of nerve damage? That's par for the course for people who use modern medicine to remove wrinkles.

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    6. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by maxume · · Score: 1

      I imagine that even in the worst botox cases, the scale of the damage is still completely different than in the face transplant procedure (and in many of the botox procedures, the nerve damage is nil).

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    7. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure I can think of a half-dozen novels with exactly this setup.

    8. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by sjames · · Score: 1

      Why not, people already spend crazy amounts of money to remove a few wrinkles at the expense of turning their face into an expressionless mask either by cutting small muscles out or injecting a potent neurotoxin.

      I personally think it's all a terrible idea, but it wouldn't be the first time someone risked their life doing something incredibly stupid in the name of vanity.

    9. Re:Now it's a medical procedure... by maxume · · Score: 1

      "Even" Hollywood doctors would have a problem with the ethics (quotes because opinions vary on how bent their ethics really are). This guy is weeks into his recovery and swallowing water is a milestone (he can't chew food yet).

      So even if somebody genuinely wanted to be severely mutilated (remember, this guy didn't start with a working face) and had the millions of dollars to pay for it, it isn't real likely they would find someone to do it.

      That could change quite a lot in 10 or 20 years (as the techniques continue to advance), but I'd bet $5 that face transplants will still be very notable in 30 years.

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  7. Weak. by dreamer.redeemer · · Score: 1

    Let me know when the first successful full head transplant takes place.

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    1. Re:Weak. by zero_out · · Score: 1

      It's not the same, but I saw a documentary about a decapitated monkey. The researches removed the head from the monkey, and attached a whole set of tubes from the head to the body for blood flow, but the airways and nervous system was 'disconnected.' The body was on artificial life support systems. The monkey was kept alive for a significant period of time. It was at least half a day, maybe several days (I can't recall), before they decided to kill it. The monkey would look around, follow objects with its eyes, and kept opening and closing its mouth like it was trying to gasp for air or 'speak.' This kind of research was soon considered unethical, so no further research was done.

      Now, if there were a way to reattach the nervous system, and not have the various head tissues be rejected by the body, then full head transplants would be potentially doable. At least it has been shown that a head can be kept alive, separate from the body, long enough to do a transplant, and with negligible, if any, brain damage. For monkeys, at least.

    2. Re:Weak. by zero_out · · Score: 1

      Now that I think about it more, it may have even been the body of one monkey, and the head of another. It's been at least ten years since I saw the documentary, so I could be very wrong about that part. And yes, there was lots of video footage showing the monkey during the whole procedure, from preparation to death.

    3. Re:Weak. by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant

      The most disturbing part of this article is that it even has a "History" section.

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    4. Re:Weak. by zero_out · · Score: 1

      Here we go. From Wikipedia:

      In 1963, a group of scientists from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland, Ohio,[3] led by Robert J. White, a neurosurgeon and a professor of neurological surgery who was inspired by the work of Vladimir Demikhov, performed a highly controversial operation to transplant the head of one monkey onto another's body. The procedure was a success to some extent, with the animal being able to smell, taste, hear, and see the world around it. The operation involved cauterizing arteries and veins carefully while the head was being severed to prevent hypovolemia. Because the nerves were left entirely intact, connecting the brain to a blood supply kept it chemically alive. The animal survived for some time after the operation, even at times attempting to bite some of the staff.[4] In 2001, Dr. White successfully repeated the operation on a monkey.[5]

    5. Re:Weak. by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      WTF

      creating the world's first man-made two headed dog.

      Dammit - every time I think I've figured out a way to get into the Guiness book, I always find out somebody's already done it.

    6. Re:Weak. by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      There's a video of this with a dog's head. It's fucking creepy (and possibly fake--some controversy over that, but either way it freaks me out).

  8. Here you go by spun · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think this is what you're looking for.

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    1. Re:Here you go by miggyb · · Score: 1

      I thought you'd be linking to "Habla Con Ella". It's a Spanish film about this sort of thing. It actually is the inspiration for the American remake, Vanilla Sky. Both really good movies, I'd recommend them both.

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    2. Re:Here you go by spun · · Score: 1

      You bastard. Somebody might actually fall for that, and watch Vanilla Sky, and kill themselves out of sheer despair and disgust, and their blood will be on YOUR hands.

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    3. Re:Here you go by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      One might actually by accident watch Abre los Ojos instead of Vanilla Sky, and have an epiphany - and all would be well.

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  9. Simply astounding! by JDSalinger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Despite it being 2010, it remains popular to attack science and medicine as though they do not have a significant mastery of reality or how the body works. Achievements like this demonstrate that the human body is not only understandable, but that it can be highly manipulated and changed with life-changing degrees of success.

    For all the people who claim that our medical knowledge is seriously lacking or fraught with error, this fly's in your face. Prepare for an onslaught of biomedical advances that will change everything we know about health and longevity. While the human body may seem to work like black magic, perhaps like an infinitely complex analog circuit, advances in understanding are steadily being made. There are real achievers in these domains and they are standing on the shoulders of giants, accruing the tools to solve any physiological problem.

    1. Re:Simply astounding! by justin12345 · · Score: 1

      I don't think that's really an argument that anyone makes around here. Few /.ers would attest that the body works like "black magic".

      Though the Americans might argue that its difficult to get access to any of these biomedical advances.

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    2. Re:Simply astounding! by maxume · · Score: 1

      You need to throw a 'many' in that second paragraph. For people that can afford it, there is plenty of care to be had in the United States.

      (Not that I can particularly afford it, but our problem isn't that there are no doctors, it is not that there is no medical technology, and it is not that there are no medical facilities, our problem is that using those things costs a lot of money)

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    3. Re:Simply astounding! by blueturffan · · Score: 1

      OK, but why is there a fly in my face?

    4. Re:Simply astounding! by prestonmichaelh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Although I agree with you in general, I think people tend to go too much to extremes on both sides of this issue. Yes, we know a lot about the human body, how it works, and we know how to do a lot of stuff to it, but there is still tons of stuff we don't know.

      Even some of the stuff/treatments that we do "know" we don't really know what we are doing. As a real life example, I take generic Flonase for allergies. It is basically a steroid that you shoot in your nose. It works great and I am glad that someone figured out that it helps allergies.

      One day, I decided to read the long, wordy leaflet that comes with the prescription (don't ask me why). Here is a direct qoute from the leaflet:

      The precise mechanism through which fluticasone propionate affects allergic rhinitis symptoms is not known.

      Here is the complete leaflet in PDF form if you are interested: http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flonase.pdf

      If you go on to read it all, basically, in fancy doctor terms, it says that through trials they found out that this stuff works for a majority of people at the recommendend dose, but they really don't know why. They also don't know if it will work long term. And this is just a steroid for allergies.

      Again, I think the advances in medicine are great, but we shouldn't overrate them. I knew a guy a few years back who basically "knew" that in his lifetime (he was around 35 at the time, probably about 40 now) that we would have the medical techonolgy to live for ever. We would be able to either "reverse the aging process" and stop cells from dying, or at minimum, implant our consciousness in a robot of some sort. Anyway, it is good to keep in mind that a lot of medicine is still, in many cases, a lot of trial and error.

    5. Re:Simply astounding! by Scooter's_dad · · Score: 1

      Well that's cool and all but where's the pill that will let me eat bacon, eggs and pancakes 3X a day and still lose weight?

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    6. Re:Simply astounding! by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      I knew a guy a few years back who basically "knew" that in his lifetime (he was around 35 at the time, probably about 40 now) that we would have the medical techonolgy to live for ever.

      There are a lot of those Kurzweil worshipping morons around /.

    7. Re:Simply astounding! by sillybilly · · Score: 1

      We're still playing around in the dark, quite a bit. What about the monkeying around that does not succeed and results in rejections? When I hear a transplant nonrejection rate of 99.99%, then you can claim you know what you're doing, exactly. Biology is very complex, and we're playing Russian roulette a lot of the time, simply because the other option of not playing Russian roulette is even worse. There is still a lot of people dying of cancer. And of old age. Unfortunately when you fully figured out with full confidence how life works, you can also fight off old age and create eternal life. And that brings about a whole set of other problems, such as no room/resources to have children. Even with certain death there is an issue of overpopulation, and then with certain eternal life, there simply cannot be new generations. That's what medicine is about : fighting death, but without being too successful, because if it can succeed 100% in fighting off death, then we have the problems of eternal life. In essence everyone dies of something, not old age, but something, like pneumonia, cancer, heart attack - and the field of medicine is "unable" to cure the problem in each instance. I have yet to see one person that lives over 500 years. Otherwise everyone dies of some disease, or malfunction, or some "natural causes" that we have no idea what it was even let alone being able to fix it. Yes, there are temporary miracles, but full understanding and full control of what happens, including certain and assured success of cure, yields eternal life. We're making steady progress toward that scary eternal life, but the role of medicine these days is more of a hold your hand in time of hardship, and pick the gambles for you that hopefully will do more good than bad. In the end, you will still die of something. The body deteriorates. It's programmed to deteriorate, to give room to the next generation, which is a faster and more efficient way for life to adapt than eternal life. It's how life works, at least how eukaryote life works. Bacteria you could say live forever by division, but the way plants, animals and people "live" is by programmed death. You fix that and then you can claim you have mastery of what goes down in biology. In the meantime you're taking your chances, at least to some degree. And by the way, most of the miracle is performed by your own body, not by the doctors. When there is a wound, and the doctor puts some disinfectant wipe on it, and it heals, how much credit goes to the doctor, and how much to the body? Biology is still very much a mystery and "ununderstood." Yes, we're making progress toward that eternal life, "understood" stage

    8. Re:Simply astounding! by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      Maybe not a pill, but here you go. You sure as hell won't lose weight, but it'll all go on as muscle rather than fat. Still a little way off, but it's beginning human trials this year, apparently.

      Alternatively there's this, which really will make you lose weight, but you might not like the side effects. All that material has to go somewhere - it's either staying in your body in one form or another, or it's coming out at high speed.

    9. Re:Simply astounding! by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Though that doesn't explain your high (relativelly) infant mortality. The most typical causes don't seem to have much to do with lack of money for treatments (considering that one your neighbour where many treatments simply aren't available...has notably smaller rate)

      Seems you're lacking in preventive care ("lifestyle" being large part of it)

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    10. Re:Simply astounding! by maxume · · Score: 1

      Yes, prenatal care is probably not being well distributed in the United States. UNICEF puts Canada and Cuba at 5 infant deaths per 1000 births, with the United States at 7, after controlling for differences in reporting:

      http://mdgs.un.org/unsd/mdg/Data.aspx

      You will have to drill down yourself, they don't offer any way to link into the dataset, Goal 4, all countries. So that is a likely a significant difference, but I'm pretty sure it is not an unconscionable difference (an American concerned about infant mortality would still best spend their efforts trying to reduce it elsewhere, where rates are enormously higher).

      Of course, given that I only said things about the availability of care, and nothing about the delivery of care, I'm not sure why you would expect what I said to address something that is likely quite related to the delivery of care.

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    11. Re:Simply astounding! by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Morons worshipping things that promise them direct continuation via resurrection or, more generally, eternal life is an old, widespread phenomena.

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    12. Re:Simply astounding! by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Preventive care / lifestyle (which, as I suspected above, might also play large role in those infant stats) might be perhaps ad hoc classified also under availability of care, I guess. If place where you live doesn't make certain healthy lifestyle choices easy.

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    13. Re:Simply astounding! by maxume · · Score: 1

      The core difference here is that you are talking about availability and affordability together and I am not.

      There are medical professionals present and willing to deliver a very high standard of care in the United States. Not everyone can afford to use their services.

      I suppose it is fair to talk about affordability as a component of availability, but the context in my first post makes it pretty clear that I am not.

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    14. Re:Simply astounding! by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they way I look at it they are related. Quite strongly IMHO, "a place which doesn't make healthy lifestyle easy" often means "a place which doesn't make healthy lifestyle affordable".

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  10. In the immortal words of Peter Griffin... by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 1

    "Show us the gross half of your face, that's what we all came to see."

  11. Please... by sophomoric · · Score: 1

    I don't know how they verified the 'first' full one, but I've had some pretty rough face plants of my own. Never snowboarding again... /s

  12. I saw that movie by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whats it called again? The one with Nicholas Cage and John Travolta... Where they like, take the guys face off, and then his face is off, so then they take the other guys face off, and put it on the other guys face. And then the guy without a face is really put off by it, so he gets the doctor to take the first offed face and put it back on him. So their faces are swapped. And then they have an epic face off with a climactic finish.

    God I wish I could just remember the name of that movie...

    1. Re:I saw that movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh, I know what it was called! Total Recall!

    2. Re:I saw that movie by cfvgcfvg · · Score: 1

      I think it's called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down".

    3. Re:I saw that movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think it was called "The Face That Couldn't Stay On."

    4. Re:I saw that movie by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      Whats it called again? The one with Nicholas Cage and John Travolta... Where they like, take the guys face off, and then his face is off, so then they take the other guys face off, and put it on the other guys face. And then the guy without a face is really put off by it, so he gets the doctor to take the first offed face and put it back on him. So their faces are swapped. And then they have an epic face off with a climactic finish.

      God I wish I could just remember the name of that movie...

      Battlefield Earth.

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    5. Re:I saw that movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The one with Nicholas Cage and John Travolta...with a climactic finish.

      They were young and needed the money.

    6. Re:I saw that movie by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Are you one of those 'unschooled' kids in America?

    7. Re:I saw that movie by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thank you, captain obvious and humorless, I salute you and award you the Redundant Cross of Missing The Point.

    8. Re:I saw that movie by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      WHOOOOSH.

      Mod parent into karmic oblivion.

    9. Re:I saw that movie by Stone2065 · · Score: 1

      Face-Off... I'm sure you can find it via IMDB.

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  13. Why would you need one? by snarfies · · Score: 2, Funny

    It begs the question: What's wrong with your faaaaaaace?

    1. Re:Why would you need one? by Kirin+Fenrir · · Score: 1

      It begs the question: What's wrong with your faaaaaaace?

      What was that from again? It's going to bug me all day until I figure it out.

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    2. Re:Why would you need one? by Flamerule · · Score: 1

      the excellent Phantom Menace review, part 3

    3. Re:Why would you need one? by justin12345 · · Score: 1

      It RAISES the question, dammit. Begging the question is something else, but you could probably care less.

      Depends on how up-to-date your copy of the English language is. In the current release, "begging the question" no longer refers to the logical fallacy of circular reasoning and can be used interchangeably with "raises the question" (due to updates in the usage of the verb "beg"). You should update your definitions and libraries to the newest version rather than correct other people's word choices online, as it makes you look like a bore.

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    4. Re:Why would you need one? by Lord+Maud'Dib · · Score: 1

      Yet you use the term "you could probably care less" which makes no fucking sense! The correct phrase is "couldn't care less" as in "anything else is more important than that".

  14. Health care reform is needed! by tacarat · · Score: 1

    Harry Whittington got shot 4 years ago and they're only fixing his face now?

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    1. Re:Health care reform is needed! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      welcome to socialized medicine.

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  15. Re:Yeah but what does the donor look like? by surmak · · Score: 1

    What does the donor look like now, and what are they going to do about not having a face?

    Rot in the ground as worm food. (As most organ donor do.)

  16. not accurate! by purcebr · · Score: 1

    It's actually the forth full face transplant. See the face transplantation experiment of 1997.

  17. Let me get this straight by goffster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A 30 member medical team is willing to reconstruct the face of someone who
    blew his own face off. I wonder how much that cost?

    I wonder how much it costs to vaccinate a single child
    against yellow fever ?

    1. Re:Let me get this straight by east+coast · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I get your point in all of this there is also the fact that the research value of this is well worth their time too.

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    2. Re:Let me get this straight by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      underrated for sure....too bad i ain't got any points to mod you..

    3. Re:Let me get this straight by MrMista_B · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, you know this computer you're using to post to Slashdot?

      Yeah, I wonder how much it costs to vaccinate a single child, indeed, hypocrite.

    4. Re:Let me get this straight by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      How much did it cost to develop the vaccine for yelllow fever?

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    5. Re:Let me get this straight by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hold on, you have just spent time reading about this on /. and commenting, but you could have been outside, helping the needy!

    6. Re:Let me get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hey you hypocritical shit. There's work to be done down at the soup kitchen. Get your lazy ass off slashdot and help out! Sell your computer and get those kids vaccinated!

    7. Re:Let me get this straight by izomiac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yep, it's a real shame those surgeons don't spend more time fixing the world's political problems. I mean, why develop or pay for costly procedures, it's not cost effective at all! For the price of a single patient on NovoSeven we could save many thousands from malaria. Aborting a single high-risk pregnancy could save enough money to pay for proper prenatal care for dozens of low income women. Allowing a single child to die of leukemia rather than perform a costly bone marrow transplant could put every one of his classmates through college.

      One benefit of being wealthy (as an individual or as a nation) is the ability to afford nice things. Since wealth isn't uniformly distributed, some people can afford such things while others cannot. As a wealthy nation we do fund quite a bit of foreign aid and public health initiatives in our own country. The cheap ideas that have a lot of measurable benefit are done unless there's a non economic/medical reason that prevents it. An example of which is that we spend more money on our own country's citizens than on another country's citizens due to a sense of responsibility and a respect for the other nation's autonomy. Another is that poor nations often have political issues that prevent cheap vaccines from being distributed.

      My understanding is that this procedure was developed for burn patients and similar. They undergo hundreds of procedures and are still left looking quite abnormal. The social implications are tremendous, as are the alterations to their sense of identity. This procedure could dramatically improve their quality of life.

      Full disclosure: my university has been working on this procedure for several years and have basically decided that they don't want to be the first. Apparently they're worried that the risk of rejection is too high, and if the face is rejected, what then? OTOH, I got all my info from one of the ethicists on the IRB, and not one of the core researchers. There are probably other reasons to not proceed despite allegedly being technically capable and ready for about 5 years now.

  18. Skin deep, man by oldhack · · Score: 1

    Yeah, yeah, now you've covered your mug with a pretty face, but you're still an ugly person. And fat.

    You know who you are, fuglies.

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  19. Hint: never lend someone the money for this op. by petes_PoV · · Score: 2, Funny

    as you won't recognise them afterwards to get it back.

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  20. Cheeky by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    There is no truth to the rumor that the recipient is now referred to by his friends as "that two-faced bastard."

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  21. Re:Awesome! by Asclepius99 · · Score: 1

    Then again, the new hot chick may figure out that she can move on to a hot rich guy and be done with you - so there are risks!

    While I do applaud the planning you've put into this (I am always in favor of both helping the environment and making the women around me more attractive), I think the risk you mentioned is a bit unfounded. I mean if you can afford to get your butter face girlfriend/wife a new face, chances are you can afford to keep her around afterwards.

  22. First full face plant? by icedcool · · Score: 1

    I read it wrong.

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  23. Re:Yeah but what does the donor look like? by hldn · · Score: 2, Funny

    What does the donor look like now, and what are they going to do about not having a face?

    he's going to get a face from another donor. duh.

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  24. Swordfish by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Swordfish... Only Nicholas Cage looks a lot like Wolverine.

  25. Pffft, big deal... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    talk to me when they can replace a whole head. Now that would be something!

    1. Re:Pffft, big deal... by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Child's play. Now, a full body replacement from the neck down, that would be something!

    2. Re:Pffft, big deal... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Or a full body transplant 100% so you can take one person then replace them with another compete person.

      My boss just read the above and said he can do that if I keep posting to slashdot.

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  26. Re:And is reportedly satisfied with the results by Intron · · Score: 1

    He'll just have to face up to it.

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  27. Re:Privacy issues ? by Cicada7 · · Score: 1

    And then they all left, for absolutely no raisin.

  28. Cost: Cero Euros... Really, No joke. by viraltus · · Score: 1

    Healthcare in Spain is universal and free, so I guarantee you this guy paid NOTHING and the doctors were happy to do the work for the chanllenge as part of their daily job. There are many things I don't like in Spain but healthcare is pretty good.

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    1. Re:Cost: Cero Euros... Really, No joke. by the_one(2) · · Score: 1

      It still costs money even if the government pays for it... I have to agree somewhat with the grandparent though the improvement in quality of life might be worth it (and the scientific value is of course very large). This procedure sounds very complicated but it's definitely very cool. And it's good that they aren't just throwing donor faces away I guess (waste not want not).

  29. Face Off by antdude · · Score: 1

    :D

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  30. Another First Until The Next by DynaSoar · · Score: 2, Informative

    The last first was first until this first came along and included *some* bones.
    This first will be the first until the next first included more bones.
    I think they're on to something here. Not only have they found a way to generate repeating headliners, they can do so farther and farther by redefining 'face'.

    'Researchers today performed the first really really for real face transplant. The previous first removed enough skin from the front side of the person so that their navel was pulled upwards to serve as a third nostril. In this record shattering surgery, the skin was pulled even farther upwards, so that now her pubic hair serves as a beard. According to Dr. Rob Zombie they have yet to solve the problem of the patient urinating onto her dinner plate from her chin. "We tried a diaper, but then she couldn't breathe." Dr. John Carpenter stated "We don't expect to have the problems that we previously with this patient, specifically her negative reaction to having three nostrils. This time we're 'replanted' [their term for transplants performed on the same person but involving different locations] most of the old evolutionary hold-overs that were previously user to define 'face'. We find it highly unlikely the patient will state objections to having a beard on her face if she can't see in a mirror. We moved her eyes around back to make room for the beard." Dr. Zombie added "And if she does, so what? If we don't want to listen to her, we've moved her mouth too. We'll just make her sit down. It wasn't strictly necessary to move her mouth that far, but we had to do something. It was impossible to work with all that screaming going on."

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  31. Re:Yeah but what does the donor look like? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is this the Bernie Madoff Organ Donation Agency by any chance?

  32. Re:How many spaniards does it take to change a fac by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

    no need to worry about saving face anymore now!

  33. The MAD parody was called by tepples · · Score: 1

    face off [...] face is off [...] face off [...] guy without a face is really put off [...] the first offed face [...] an epic face off

    I don't remember what the movie was called, but the parody in Mad #363 was called "F*!@/OFF".

  34. Re:first? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

    Really this is the first super-duper-ultra-mega full face transplant, coming after the first full transplant, first super full transplant, first super-duper full transplant, and the first super-duper-ultra full transplant.

    That should tell you just how full this face transplant is.

  35. I say... by funkify · · Score: 1

    Photos or it didn't happen!

  36. Dick, you're gonna pay for what you did to me! by macraig · · Score: 1

    Now that I've got this new face and you don't know what I look like any more, I'm gonna make you pay for what you did to my first one, Mister Cheney! I was kinda attached to it.

  37. Re:Yeah but what does the donor look like? by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

    What does the donor look like now, and what are they going to do about not having a face?

    Most likely something like this woman.

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  38. Whoa. by Geminii · · Score: 1

    So this would be an epic faceplant?

  39. illegal market by ThePirateKing · · Score: 1

    I wonder if there will someday be an illegal market for this sort of thing, for criminals who want to disguise themselves.

  40. Re:You're the one that got "schooled", Roman_Mir by socceroos · · Score: 1

    Wow, how long have you been plotting your revenge?

    As lame as it is (and even though it doesn't quite fit) it reminds me of this

  41. Re:Yeah but what does the donor look like? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    Christ, I hope that was a joke.

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