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Ubuntu Linux 10.04 Review (Lucid Lynx)
JimLynch writes "The open source world has been eagerly anticipating the final release of Ubuntu Linux 10.04, and now it's finally here. Canonical has been working extremely hard and it shows in the quality of this release."
Except it isn't released yet. On hold due to a bug in install process that doesn't detect dual boot set ups properly...
Release party on IRC server: irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
My Dell Mini is happy running 10.5.7.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
... and I've given up. Between the backport madness, button relocation debate, purplification, and a complete disassociation with the community I did something which I didn't think I'd ever do. After 10 years of .deb distros, I'm running Fedora.
And you know what? It's nice. F12 is stable; yum seems to address all of those rpm complaints of old. I don't have strange oddities, there's actually SELINUX support. F12 works so well that in 10 years of running Linux I find myself (for the first time) in the situation where there is a beta out of the new Fedora and I haven't installed it as my system works flawlessly (I did boot the live CD and F13 beta is looking good too - I just don't want to upgrade until its baked).
Because there are just too many regular Lynx's out there.
Actually, not currently as the home page issues a warning about a "in development" version for lucid ...
btw, the review seems to provide little more than the press release : what about bugs ? speed ? HW compatibility and performance besides boot times - it's an OS ! - , system configuration apps, boot splash with nvidia proprietary drivers ..., what about other sister as mint, Kubuntu, or Lubuntu)
>>>TFA has already been slashdotted...
If you're using Opera turn on "turbo" and it will load.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
I hope someone sees that the naming scheme is going to run into trouble when they reach the letter 'X'.
What is the best they can do? Ubuntu 24.0 (Xanthic Xerus) ?
This Ubuntu release is 10.04 LTS (for "Long Term Support").
Getting the RC version or the latest daily ISO and upgrading from that is functionally equivalent to waiting for the final ISO to be released and installing it.
Anyone updating their packages from a recent enough beta or RC of Ubuntu will end up having the equivalent of the release.
In case it's not clear, it makes sense NOT to wait for the final release.
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Perhaps this will be the Ubuntu install were I have no problems like everyone else claims. Every freaking version I try installing I always seem to run into issues, and not of them are easy fixes. Oh you want native resolution fine but you will need to give up GNOME, Unless you want to install it via TAR Balls. Oh you want sound sure... But this only worked in some apps. Oh what is the fix for that. Go into you etc file and add some cryptic commands that are not in any man page.
But if say there are problems with Ubuntu and there are things that OS X or Windows handles a lot better. Be prepared for a fight and everyone calling you an idiot.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
Camping on quad since 1996.
I know Kubuntu is the redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu, but you should try out Kubuntu 10.04. I don't know how I lived without tabbed windows.
For those of you curious... The latest build of 10.04 still has not fixed the Network bug where you can not map Sabma network drives.
Such as pain in that ass as this did once work in 9.10.
-Will P.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
.... where they belong?
And the Lord said, "Window decorations must always reside on the right hand side of the window!" And so it was done.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
just use the "Human" theme (that's the default in 9.10)... the buttons moved are only part of the NEW THEMES.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
Simply copy and paste this line into your terminal: /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string “menu:minimize,maximize,close,spacer”
gconftool-2 --set
This might be the year of the linux desktop!
Ubuntu has become a platform to generate revenue for canonical:
Ubuntu Music Shop Ubuntu Software Store Search Deal with Yahoo/Google
Become? They have always had a business model. If making money is a crime, quite your job. And the search deal with Yahoo fell through.
Moving the buttons will force you to use the other side of your brain more often. Which then will make you a more thoughtful, kinder, and loving person. Just look at the difference between Steve Jobs and Steve Ballmer.
Do you really want to end up throwing chairs at people?
If your looking for a more stable ubuntu try Debian. It's what ubuntu is based on, and doesn't have all the fluffy feel-good stuff that ubuntu has. I'm not just trying to troll an ubuntu thread as a Debian guy, but I've heard dozens of times now about how someone is going to switch back to Windows due to problems in ubuntu. Try something else first! Ubuntu != Linux.
You aren't being biblical enough.
[Charlton Heston voice]
And thus the Lord, who is our God, the God of Israel, spake, saying " Woe unto him and unto his seventh generation, he who puts his window decorations on the left side, for they are an abomination unto Me. Thou shalt offer burnt sacrifices as guilt offering to atone for your sin and then henceforth always have your window decorations on the right" and thus it was written
Now that's biblical
Well since the link is slashdotted, maybe a list of the new features will be useful:
So it looks like solid improvement for the most part, nothing really revolutionary, but solid.
When my Gateway LT3201u with its Athlon 64 and positively antiquated ATI graphics can actually come up in X11, it's ready.
When my Acer Aspire One D250-1165, an incredibly common machine with bog-standard intel chipset, graphics, &c can stay up for more than eight hours without hanging with only the background image displayed, or kernel panicking because some system component (the only stuff running is "official" Ubuntu packages) has consumed all available memory and the system can't spawn new processes, it's ready.
But so far, Lucid is in even worse shape than Karmic was when it was released. I'd be ashamed to have my name associated with Lucid.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
sudo apt-get purge libmono* libgdiplus cli-common
"...today consumers have been conditioned to think of beer when they see a bullfrog..."
I use Debian Squeeze (Testing) on my desktop. It has up-to-date packages, and it far more stable than ubuntu.
Have they fixed the pulse audio clusterfuck yet? How about flash and java working properly out of the box? (being able to watch youtube and hulu without ridiculous installs and configurations should be a serious focus for serving the general user)
You have a dedicated card for exotic video?
Facts have a liberal bias.
Canonical has been working extremely hard and it shows in the quality of this release.
Yeah--after upgrading my server which has a standalone boot drive along with 8 other disks that are in a RAID6 array--it completely fails to boot. Plymouth is a joke--why install graphical boot crap on a server? I can't even see the output of fsck which is apparently complaining that my array is corrupted--because the output is hooked into the fscked-up plymouth system. Lame regressions. Funny how the 8.04 recovery CD says the array is just fine. Meh, loaded Debian last weekend, haven't looked back.
Oh--and there's my netbook. After upgrading, the wireless and onboard NIC work intermittently. Most hibernates require a reboot because the wireless and NIC fail to come back up. Unplugging from the AC adapter causes a kernel panic about 60% of the time. Lots of lame regressions. But hey--at least plymouth works on my netbook. I can boot graphically into a flaky distro. It's scheduled to be upgraded to Debian this weekend.
I upgraded my wife's computer even though that BOFH part of my brain was screaming that I was 0 for 2 on 10.04 upgrades. Upgraded her from 9.10 and she immediately lost audio in Firefox along with the sound icon in her systray. Mplayer, totem, and the like all output sound just fine. Just no firefox or sound icon. And I can't seem to get it back. There is no audio panel applet. After a bunch of dorking around, uninstalling things, recompiling other things, I got audio working. Very lame regression.
I'm going to skip upgrading any of our customer systems to 10.04 in light of this. Instead, I'll start migrating to Debian. There doesn't seem to be any mention of 'plymouth' in their packaging system. That makes me feel a lot better.
I know everyone's experiences are different, but this upgrade totally kicked my ass.
Why don't they ever delay the long-term releases by a few weeks or months to put together a truly finished product?
There's no place like
I've switched back to Debian from Ubuntu recently, too. "Sidegrading" from 9.10 to Debian squeeze while keeping all your application configs (and your entire homedir) intact is an absolute breeze:
http://www.psy-q.ch/blog/articles/2010/04/20/sidegrading-from-ubuntu-9-10-to-debian-squeeze-its-a-breeze/
Although there were a few snags during installation:
http://www.psy-q.ch/blog/articles/2010/03/28/new-adventures-in-debian-land/
You should have burned your Karma during the last release. Now is the time to be Lucid.
Is it as easy to install the Nvidia restricted drivers on Debian as it is on Ubuntu?
right now, at this very minute.
This is a definite WTF moment. How could Ubuntu not include the GIMP?!! And worse yet, they have replaced it with F-Spot -- one of the most difficult and annoyingly feature free graphics programs I have ever seen. IIRC, it is based on Mono, too, which is another reason to hate it.
Well, Ubuntu is shaping up to be more and more useless with every release. In 8.04, I could resize an external monitor to whatever resolution the monitor could take. Updates disabled that functionality and constrained me to hardware detection. In 8.10, using an external monitor on an EEE causes a blank screen. CUPS is broken on every release soon after install. Skype and USB audio have not worked since 8.04. Firefox has been getting worse and worse, as well.
Ubuntu used to be easier to use than anything, but now, it is getting like Windows: Many things are broken and cannot be fixed whatever one does. I guess I will just have to keep my fingers crossed for Haiku or switch back to Fedora. For all the money Canonical has spent and all the work that has been done, I would have believed they would have come out with something better. I guess I will never be able to upgrade my EEE :(
All data is speech. All speech is Free.
Perhaps because the vast majority of their users don't use it, because it's a comparatively large package so including it excludes other more desired features, and because apt-get install gimp isn't too great a hurdle for anyone who does need it.
gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
Thanks to:
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1592998&cid=31593244
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Why is Ubuntu still clinging to an install CD while all the other distros are using DVDs? Again, Ubuntu is not Windows, and it is not made by MS. Why follow MS's weak design choices?
If Ubuntu claimed that a CD version could not include OpenOffice and instead included Abiword, I would not be arguing. But the GIMP is almost as central to Linux as Gnome or KDE. It is a staple, like rice or bread. Without it, the desktop will be "undernourished".
Ubuntu also is not Puppy Linux. It does not take up a mere 100MB of disk space. It does not run on 20 year old computers. Why should the default install not include the best and brightest of the Linux world?
All data is speech. All speech is Free.
Well, yes they do because if Canonical are expecting F-Spot of all things to be an adequate replacement for an image manipulation application then they're nuts. The GIMP was the only one in the Gnome/GTK world. If they're saying that the GIMP isn't good enough and they're dropping then, well, their application pool gets ever more laughable.
No one should be running Mono. It's a well-proven, extensively documented part of Microsoft's PR, FUD, and patent attack on Linux.
The real problem is that it was included to begin with. It needs to be removed at the source.
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