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Ubuntu Linux 10.04 Review (Lucid Lynx)

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the lessons-in-alliteration dept.

JimLynch writes "The open source world has been eagerly anticipating the final release of Ubuntu Linux 10.04, and now it's finally here. Canonical has been working extremely hard and it shows in the quality of this release."

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  1. Except... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except it isn't released yet. On hold due to a bug in install process that doesn't detect dual boot set ups properly...

    Release party on IRC server: irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party

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    1. Re:Except... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And this is why I'm waiting a few weeks, until they get the initial bugs out.

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    2. Re:Except... by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why is that a bug? MS hasn't ever detected dual boot properly.

    3. Re:Except... by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Has it?? i've been running beta2 for a few weeks and it dual boots Win7 just fine. Did they break something?

      Speaking of which, my impressions of 10.04 aren't as thrilled as the summary (can't read TFA yet). I ran 9.04 for nearly a year, skipped completely over 9.10, and now that I'm on 10.04, I honestly can't tell what's different from 9.04 aside from the new purple/grey/orange colored interface bars, moved min/max/close buttons, different IM tool (which I was already using in 9.04 anyway), and the login tool already knowing my name. Oh, and some icons for cloud computing (which I'm not sold on at all) and integration with facebook and twitter.

      Maybe I'm wrong here, but with the short 6-month release schedule, it doesn't seem like -any- release of Ubuntu is worth "eagerly anticipating". It's not like we're talking the 6 year feature/design gap between XP and Vista, or even the 3 year gap between Vista and 7.

      It seems like it basically comes down to "install whatever release is current, get it configured to your liking, and run it until support ends." I saw no reason to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and I wouldn't have upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 except I needed to wipe the HD anyway.

    4. Re:Except... by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The main reason to upgrade is when %your_application% needs to be upgraded to get a new feature, or bug fixed. And the most stable times to upgrade are either early in the beta, or a month after release. For some reason, close to release (on either side of the date) is the most unstable of times.

    5. Re:Except... by migla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a pet regression in lucid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/545443

      "Lucid on Asus EEE PC 901 and 1000H fails to connect to any wireless network". Those (pretty common, I think) netbooks have the RaLink RT2860 wireless chipset.

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    6. Re:Except... by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why is that a bug? MS hasn't ever detected dual boot properly.

      You are mistaken. My 98SE disk detected _both_ boots just fine, I still have the pieces to prove it!

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    7. Re:Except... by Have+Brain+Will+Rent · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So instead of all installs having the bug only some installs will have it... doesn't sound like an improvement to me.

      While I'm criticising... the recent patch to turn off SMART monitoring, because it apparently damages some SSD's, could have been handled better. On my system it seemed to have a side effect which manifested as all the file systems suddenly going RO - while I was running and editing something important. Even inserting a thumb drive to try and save the work resulted in it coming up RO. And it wouldn't "shutdown".

      Long story short, after cycling the power it took the better part of half a day to get things straightened out. Yes there was notice of the change but honestly who reads every single little description of every single patch? Something this major should have had lots of bells and whistles to attract attention - not because of the headache I suffered, although it would have been nice to avoid the frustration and wasted time - but because turning off SMART monitoring without making damn sure the user knows the health of his disks aren't being monitored anymore is assinine.

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    8. Re:Except... by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "real linux"? Like Ubuntu is made from cheap copy components from some nameless factory in China?

      Why would I get more respect editing fstab in Debian, running a driver install script from the terminal in fedora, or compiling source code in mandrake?

      What qualifies me for "real linux" user? Do I need to pick up Slackware or gentoo and compile my own kernal for a 1% improvement in speed?

      Why do fanboys feel the need to splinter themselves internally, even to the point of absurdity?

      *note, this is not directed specifically at you Dotancohen

  2. I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... and I've given up. Between the backport madness, button relocation debate, purplification, and a complete disassociation with the community I did something which I didn't think I'd ever do. After 10 years of .deb distros, I'm running Fedora.

    And you know what? It's nice. F12 is stable; yum seems to address all of those rpm complaints of old. I don't have strange oddities, there's actually SELINUX support. F12 works so well that in 10 years of running Linux I find myself (for the first time) in the situation where there is a beta out of the new Fedora and I haven't installed it as my system works flawlessly (I did boot the live CD and F13 beta is looking good too - I just don't want to upgrade until its baked).

    1. Re:I heard the same about 8.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 by spikenerd · · Score: 5, Funny

      F12 works so well that...

      I'm on Ubuntu. I pressed F12. nothing happened. For all of us ignorant and backward Ubuntu users, what does F12 do on Fedora?

  3. It's 10.04 LTS (not "10.04") by MagicFab · · Score: 4, Informative

    This Ubuntu release is 10.04 LTS (for "Long Term Support").

    Getting the RC version or the latest daily ISO and upgrading from that is functionally equivalent to waiting for the final ISO to be released and installing it.

    Anyone updating their packages from a recent enough beta or RC of Ubuntu will end up having the equivalent of the release.

    In case it's not clear, it makes sense NOT to wait for the final release.

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    1. Re:It's 10.04 LTS (not "10.04") by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Informative

      While it's unlikely this late in the game, you have to account for the fact that the Beta or RC versions could put your system into a bit of disarray (for example, the alternatives system for Nvidia drivers has given me nothing but trouble) which might not be reversed on final update. To be safest, it's best to wait for the final release.

      Specifically, though I had no trouble upgrading from 9.04 final to 9.10 final, I jumped the gun and tried 10.04 while it was beta. Lets just say that while the system is working ok(-ish), I won't be doing that again, and after the release today I'm wiping the system and reinstalling a clean copy (/home is on separate drive so it's pretty easy to just start over).

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  4. Re:What will they do for release 24? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Xenophobic Xenomorph?

  5. Perhaps... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps this will be the Ubuntu install were I have no problems like everyone else claims. Every freaking version I try installing I always seem to run into issues, and not of them are easy fixes. Oh you want native resolution fine but you will need to give up GNOME, Unless you want to install it via TAR Balls. Oh you want sound sure... But this only worked in some apps. Oh what is the fix for that. Go into you etc file and add some cryptic commands that are not in any man page.

    But if say there are problems with Ubuntu and there are things that OS X or Windows handles a lot better. Be prepared for a fight and everyone calling you an idiot.

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    1. Re:Perhaps... by agrounds · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be fair, being called an idiot instead of a reasonable reply is pretty much inherent to the entire IT community. We're an entire culture of people that have long since forgotten that our job is ultimately to provide a customer service. There is a prevaling attitude of 'works for me, you must suck' or 'program it yourself' instead of taking the moderate and service-oriented approach of actually listening, interpreting, and working collaboratively towards a solution in a manner that everyone can follow.

      It's little wonder we are held in disdain by most.

  6. Been using Kubuntu 10.04... by mweather · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know Kubuntu is the redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu, but you should try out Kubuntu 10.04. I don't know how I lived without tabbed windows.

    1. Re:Been using Kubuntu 10.04... by forkazoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know Kubuntu is the redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu, but you should try out Kubuntu 10.04. I don't know how I lived without tabbed windows.

      Without tabbed windows, you lived like some sort of animal. Probably sitting in a pile of your own sick and excrement, as likely to use your computer as to try to eat it or hump it.

      We all did. Thank god we upgraded.

  7. Re:What will they do for release 24? by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

    By Ubuntu 22.04 it will become self-aware, and will only accept to be called as "Him", anything else will guarantee a thunderstorm very close to your head.

  8. Re:What will they do for release 24? by BrentH · · Score: 4, Informative

    "We might skip a few letters, and we'll have to wrap eventually. " - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames

  9. but left is good for you by formfeed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Moving the buttons will force you to use the other side of your brain more often. Which then will make you a more thoughtful, kinder, and loving person. Just look at the difference between Steve Jobs and Steve Ballmer.
    Do you really want to end up throwing chairs at people?

  10. Re:quality? by ProdigyPuNk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If your looking for a more stable ubuntu try Debian. It's what ubuntu is based on, and doesn't have all the fluffy feel-good stuff that ubuntu has. I'm not just trying to troll an ubuntu thread as a Debian guy, but I've heard dozens of times now about how someone is going to switch back to Windows due to problems in ubuntu. Try something else first! Ubuntu != Linux.

  11. Re:Is there a How-To on moving the window icons ba by someSnarkyBastard · · Score: 5, Funny

    You aren't being biblical enough.
    [Charlton Heston voice]

    And thus the Lord, who is our God, the God of Israel, spake, saying " Woe unto him and unto his seventh generation, he who puts his window decorations on the left side, for they are an abomination unto Me. Thou shalt offer burnt sacrifices as guilt offering to atone for your sin and then henceforth always have your window decorations on the right" and thus it was written

    Now that's biblical

  12. Not even close to ready for prime time by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    When my Gateway LT3201u with its Athlon 64 and positively antiquated ATI graphics can actually come up in X11, it's ready.

    When my Acer Aspire One D250-1165, an incredibly common machine with bog-standard intel chipset, graphics, &c can stay up for more than eight hours without hanging with only the background image displayed, or kernel panicking because some system component (the only stuff running is "official" Ubuntu packages) has consumed all available memory and the system can't spawn new processes, it's ready.

    But so far, Lucid is in even worse shape than Karmic was when it was released. I'd be ashamed to have my name associated with Lucid.

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  13. pulse, flash, java by Taibhsear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have they fixed the pulse audio clusterfuck yet? How about flash and java working properly out of the box? (being able to watch youtube and hulu without ridiculous installs and configurations should be a serious focus for serving the general user)

  14. Re:What will they do for release 24? by cp.tar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Xenophobic Xenu.
    In other news, Ubuntu will be taken over by the Scientologists. There will be no major changes; just some web filtering. And the psychiatrist module will be dropped from Emacs, but who uses Emacs anyway?

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  15. Re:What will they do for release 24? by mordejai · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm waiting on Ubuntu 13.04... Rapist Racoon.

    Still, the real danger is in 12.04 LTS: Paedophile Penguin.

  16. No GIMP?! Seriously? by LuYu · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a definite WTF moment. How could Ubuntu not include the GIMP?!! And worse yet, they have replaced it with F-Spot -- one of the most difficult and annoyingly feature free graphics programs I have ever seen. IIRC, it is based on Mono, too, which is another reason to hate it.

    Well, Ubuntu is shaping up to be more and more useless with every release. In 8.04, I could resize an external monitor to whatever resolution the monitor could take. Updates disabled that functionality and constrained me to hardware detection. In 8.10, using an external monitor on an EEE causes a blank screen. CUPS is broken on every release soon after install. Skype and USB audio have not worked since 8.04. Firefox has been getting worse and worse, as well.

    Ubuntu used to be easier to use than anything, but now, it is getting like Windows: Many things are broken and cannot be fixed whatever one does. I guess I will just have to keep my fingers crossed for Haiku or switch back to Fedora. For all the money Canonical has spent and all the work that has been done, I would have believed they would have come out with something better. I guess I will never be able to upgrade my EEE :(

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  17. Or just enter one command: by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Informative

    gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close

    Thanks to:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1592998&cid=31593244

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