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BlackBerry Predicted a Century Ago By Nikola Tesla

andylim writes "According to the Telegraph, the BlackBerry was first predicted more than a century ago, by Nikola Tesla, the electrical engineer. Seth Porges, Popular Mechanics' current technology editor, disclosed Tesla's prediction at a presentation, titled '108 Years of Futurism,' to industry figures recently in New York. Recombu.com has published the original Popular Mechanics article in which Tesla predicts a mobile phone revolution."

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  1. Yet another example of why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tesla was a freakin genius.

    Our entire modern world wouldnt exist without him. And he never got any credit while he was alive.

    Hell, theres STILL stuff he came up with that we have no understanding of. Yet.

    1. Re:Yet another example of why... by Jurily · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. Basically if it runs on electricity, Tesla has a hand in it.

    2. Re:Yet another example of why... by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... Stuff he completely refused to document or explain, making it perfectly indistinguishable from the rantings of once-great scientist who has slipped into mediocrity, or even insanity. It's strange how you think the 'stuff' he came up with, that you don't understand, is somehow noteworthy. Surely that is irrational, as you don't know what it is. It's as if you are worshipping at the altar of Tesla. You're not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

    3. Re:Yet another example of why... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The tendency to worship someone, something is strong in humans, and the image of Nicola Tesla has the tendency to expand to super-human proportions in the mind of many a geek. Still, I'd rather have someone bow to the shrine of St. Nicola occasionally than to channel the irrational part we all carry into something less harmless. How about we declare a St. Tesla's Day, where everyone has to sacrifice 1 kWh of energy by doing pointless but spectacular HV experiments with lots of sparks, ozone and thunder?

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    4. Re:Yet another example of why... by lawnboy5-O · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree - considering that most of the things we use - are directly from the Lab of Edison, where my grandmother use to work as a close personal assistant of his. An no, I dont worship the old bastard - i do respect him. And yes his toiling and rants with Westinghouse / Tesla were probably the catalysts in competition for such and amazing inventor's streak - but its is UNDOUBTEDLY the crazy angry old Edison that out did Tesla when looking at the pragmatic and practical value of such said inventions.

      And its Marconi that invented the Radio, not Tesla. The argument was concluded in European and World courts over ten years ago.

    5. Re:Yet another example of why... by Dishevel · · Score: 2, Informative
      Ummm.... Edison actually invented a crapload of stuff. Sure he was also a great businessman. He hired great people too.

      Edison was one of the great inventors of all time. Not the greatest. Not the most prolific either. But nobody I know would argue against him having a place in the top 20 inventors of all time.

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    6. Re:Yet another example of why... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Edison invented the modern Research and Development lab.

      And he was very successful in commercializing his invention.

    7. Re:Yet another example of why... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 5, Funny

      While this is surely a worthwhile endeavor for a young novice of the Church of St. Tesla, St. Tesla's day should be a great opportunity to just try your hands on some electronics.

      Just follow these simple commands:

      Thou shalt not presente your body as a path for ye electrone to reach ground, lest ye be smitten down.
      Thou shall only manipulate HV circuits with one hand, keeping the other behind your back, lest thou presenteth a path for ye electrone through thine hearte and be smitten down.
      Thou shalt not touch a big-arsed capacitor without discharching it before, lest ye be smitten down.
      Thou shall always remember that woode is only an isolator below a certain voltage, lest it presenteth a path for the electrone and filleth yer room with holy flame and smoke.
      Thou shall always use a decent head-sink for yer MOSFETs, lest ye olde magick smoke escapeth.

      Keep that in mind and rise from the lowly status of novice!

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    8. Re:Yet another example of why... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Come on... Ours is a welcoming creed, this is just to show that even the hillbillies are welcome! Seriously, I am making a weak joke there - do I need the olde english nazis on my arse for that? It's not even my first language. Relax and bask in the sparking glory of St. Tesla!

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    9. Re:Yet another example of why... by Phoghat · · Score: 2, Informative
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  2. Free advertising going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the guy predicted text messaging. Impressive. But why does everything have to be a product placement nowadays?

    This case is especially stupid, since what really enables worldwide access to messaging are $20 phones.

    1. Re:Free advertising going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you must be in the wrong country.

  3. Blackberry? by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not sure why this article claims he predicted the Blackberry. Maybe he predicted the iPhone. Or the Droid. Or just the generic cellphone. Or the walkie-talkie. It's nice that Blackberry is getting some face time but I don't really see the necessity to focus the article on a specific brand rather than the entire product category...

    1. Re:Blackberry? by jonbryce · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean the windmill, invented by Heron of Alexandria in approx 50AD?

  4. Not Surprised by MaxwellEdison · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't find it very surprising that someone obsessed with perfecting the wireless transmission of electricity would envision the wireless transmission of information. The fact that he predicted Apple would abandon flash though, was a bit of a shock.

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  5. Blackberry Advert by tom17 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pure Blackberry advertising to increase usage in the UK. Why should they correlate "possible to transmit wireless messages all over the world." with the BB and not, say, any phone since the mid 90's?

    Tom

    1. Re:Blackberry Advert by dave420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The real kicker is BlackBerry devices, and your aforementioned "any phone since the mid 90s", can't do that. Only satellite phones can do that, and I'm pretty sure RIM don't make those.

    2. Re:Blackberry Advert by grumling · · Score: 4, Informative

      TECHNICALLY, a satphone only transmits up to the closest satellite. Single sideband (PSK31 if you want data) on the HF bands can transmit all over the world.

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  6. Funny, I heard that one differently. by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Way back in the day when I was in high school I heard Tesla predicted the Internet, using exactly that quote. There's no arguing that Tesla did a lot of amazing things but he's no technological Nostradamus, no matter how much people try to shoehorn him into the role.

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  7. Please stop the needless sensationalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tesla anticipating the advent of portable communication devices does not in any way equate to him having predicted the BlackBerry.

    I've found that I'm making small scornful noises increasingly often while reading Slashdot and BetaNews headlines. I have yet to determine the threshold at which I will cease reading technology news altogether, but I feel it is rapidly approaching. I don't want to stop, so please, please, for the love of Christ please stop posting this frothy nonsense.

  8. Re:That's all fine and good by Jurily · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, Tesla was talking about the Nokia N900, but the submitter never heard about that one.

  9. Sadly he was preoccupied with ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Informative
    ... Tesla was preoccupied with wireless transmission of power, not information. He devoted his entire later half of his life and millions of dollars from his investors on that elusive dream. Even today wireless transmission of power, without attenuation has not been achieved.

    At the turn of the century, Marconi, Tesla and Jagdish Chandra Bose demonstrated wirelessly turning on a switch over a distance. Marconi could never get the resonance circuit working right (what he called coherer). Got the idea from Bose in a conference, (or stole Bose's notebook depending on where you hear it from). Bose was an idealist and never thought of commericializing his inventions, and was stuck in Calcutta, India anyway. Marconi went into wireless signal propagation and Tesla went into wireless power transmission.

    Despite his visionary predictions about wireless communications, Tesla's dream of wireless transmission of power has not yet been realized.

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    1. Re:Sadly he was preoccupied with ... by squinty_s · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, his investors pulled out, bankrupting him when they realized it was impossible to meter such wireless power. I have no doubt that if they continued, the world would be much different today.

  10. Re:That's all fine and good by lxs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just wait until you read his letter on why the iPad sucks.

  11. Prior Art! by rnturn · · Score: 5, Funny

    It appears that Tesla thought of everything. So let's just toss out all those silly mobile patents and let the real innovation -- and competition -- begin.

    What did he have to say about audio and video encoding?

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  12. Tesla in 1909? Try Francis Bacon in 1623 by benwiggy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From Francis Bacon's "New Atlantis" of 1623:

    We represent also all multiplications of light, which we carry to great distance, and make so sharp as to discern small points and lines.
    We find also diverse means, yet unknown to you, of producing of light, originally from diverse bodies.We have also houses of deceits of the senses, where were present all manner of feats of juggling, false apparitions, impostures and illusions, and their fallacies.

    We have also sound-houses, where we practise and demonstrate all sounds and their generation. We have all means to convey sounds in trunks and pipes, in strange lines and distances.

    1. Re:Tesla in 1909? Try Francis Bacon in 1623 by bunratty · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bacon got it totally wrong. Everybody knows the Internet is a series of tubes, not pipes. Pfffft!

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  13. Re:That's all fine and good by mdwh2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, it makes a change from people round here talking about "Iphone-like device" to refer to "phone", and I'm surprised for once that the media have chosen Blackberry rather than Apple yet again.

    Really though, looking at the article:

    such a hand-held device would be simple to use and that, one day, everyone in the world would communicate to friends using it

    There's nothing here that even implies a QWERTY keyboard, or even being so-called "smart" (which is ill-defined anyway, and simply means the high end at any given time). This description refers to mobile phones in general (whether it's communicating by speech, text, or Internet - almost all phones do all these things).

    If anyone one company deserves the mention, it should be Nokia, who've shipped billions of these "hand-held devices" and have 40+% of the market. Other companies worthy of mention would be LG, Samsung, Motorola - in fact, RIM and Apple come rather low on the list.

    (And I have to say, is predicting a device really that special? Communication devices already existed, and this just said, one day they'll be smaller and mobile. I'm going to predict that in the future we'll have faster computers, and they'll be smaller too.)

  14. Re:Loser by redJag · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have my secretary print out the slashdot comments and leave them on my desk every hour, you insensitive clod!

  15. Nokia V apple by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SO does this invalidate the claims in Nokia V. Apple lawsuit. If wireless connectiviry was anticipated in 1909, are practical methods for carrying that out truly surprising 100 years later?

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    1. Re:Nokia V apple by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

      that's the funny thing. Blackberry is a late comer "mee too" copycat.

      Motorola had the first QWERTY data phone.. the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X.

      Nokia was next with their Mobira Senator.

      Then IBM had the personal communicator.

      I had the first real smartphone the QCP6035 from kyerocera. It predated the first blackberry by 2 years.

      Blackberry did not invent anything. They simply copied others ideas and patented them as their own.

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  16. Count the misses, not just the hits. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hell, theres STILL stuff he came up with that we have no understanding of. Yet.

    That stuff is either genius or failed experiments. How would you know the difference?

    Note that this article predicts both the Internet and wireless technology, but with no mention of the digital aspects. It also predicts wireless power, such that a ship could be sent across the Atlantic, powered by a single wireless power station on one side. It predicted all of this would happen in something like 5 years.

    So he was wrong about how long it would take, and he threw out at least one other idea in that article that we haven't seen happen, and have no evidence can happen.

    I like Tesla as much as anyone else, but I'm not sure how to call this one. Fuzzy, at best. I think Orwell had it closer.

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    1. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by srmalloy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Note that this article predicts both the Internet and wireless technology, but with no mention of the digital aspects. It also predicts wireless power, such that a ship could be sent across the Atlantic, powered by a single wireless power station on one side. It predicted all of this would happen in something like 5 years.

      Tesla was, for the greater part of his life, badly hampered by a severe lack of money to carry out his more expansive projects. Some of this was due to his overgenerous nature, as when he gave up entirely the royalties Westinghouse owed him on the power-generation devices Tesla had designed, some was due to his lifelong habit of chasing ideas off in odd directions without consideration for their economic utility, and some was due to his inability to obtain funding from others -- Westinghouse, for example, refused to fund Tesla's development of a broadcast-power system after Tesla admitted that there would be no way to determine how much power any given end-user consumed, so there would be no way to bill them for it.

    2. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      While this article quotes Tesla predicting wireless technology, it is not very similar to what we actualy have. His prediction was for central switching stations, not distributed cell towers. What Telsa was talking about is not what we have today. It bears a superficial resemblance, but it is a completely different technology.

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    3. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Any persons predictions will come to fruition if given enough time.

      I predict the world will end in a fiery death. And I am right, simply wait around a few billion years to witness the sun eating our planet.

      Predictions of flying cars will come to life the second that they can perfect the auto flying system. Because everyones worse nightmare is the current crop of idiots on our highways, piloting a "flying car" in 3 dimensions.

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    4. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by hitmark · · Score: 2, Informative

      sounds like a car phone to me, those pre-cell phones that had a limited number of channels covering a whole city.

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    5. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, I am picking at technical details. The device that Tesla predicted would look completely different from a technical standpoint than the devices we have today. He was perdicitng something that would be an offshoot of his wireless electricity distribution system. As others have pointed out, the main thing to consider before thinking his predictions were so wonderfully prescient is how many predictions did he make that have not panned out at all.
      If Tesla had been a science fiction writer (similar to, say, Jules Verne) I would be willing to allow that he predicted modern cell phones (and if that is all you want to make of it, OK). But as a technical innovator, his concept of mobile communication devices is based on a completely different technical paradigm. A technical paradigm that would never have led to the devices we know today.

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    6. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by painandgreed · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note that this article predicts both the Internet and wireless technology, but with no mention of the digital aspects.

      But he did. Telsa was the inventor of the AND logic gate. When computers started to catch on and research was done and people went to patent their inventions, some of them found out that Telsa already had the patents some more than 50 years earlier because he was already developing the same techniques while trying to control devices wirelessly. So, he did do that, it just wasn't mentioned in the article probably because it wasn't seen as important at the time and because it was quite simply beyond everybody else.

      When Tesla developed weapons for the military and displayed them at a World's Fair, he demonstrated remote controlled submarines and torpedoes and tried to explain how both the submarines and torpedoes could be controlled and guided wirelessly by operators far away. In a time where a simply wireless system that allowed ships to talk to each other reliably, submarines, or torpedoes would have been a major military breakthrough, the army and navy just couldn't even comprehend what he was talking about let alone figure out how to use remote drones effectivly.

    7. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His prediction was for central switching stations

      Which basically accurately describes the idea of the radio telephone--a telephone with some connection over radio, but switched at a central station, i.e. like phone service of the time. Early taxi-cab radio systems worked similarly, except frequencies were manually switched by the operator. Automatic cellular handover would be the next logical step....

      He may have indeed realized this, but dummed it down for the audience of 1909 Popular Mechanics. In the same few paragraphs, he also predicts the idea of radio facsimile--an idea not realized until almost 15 years after the article.

    8. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Khyber · · Score: 3, Funny

      "The device that Tesla predicted would look completely different from a technical standpoint than the devices we have today."

      Really?

      Tesla mentioned one device being the size of a watch that you wore on your wrist to communicate with people all over the world.

      I HAVE ONE, it's called the M810 Tri-band wrist phone.

      Do you even pay attention to the things we have today or do you just sit in the cave, on the computer?

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    9. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by paulej72 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well GPS is receive only, and SatPhones are huge.

    10. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Khyber · · Score: 2, Funny

      Satphones are not huge. An Iridium is the size of a cordless handset at home, without the handset's base station.

      And they're getting smaller every single year.

      And GPS is *NOT* receive only. How the hell is it supposed to sync with multiple satellites if it can't send a signal out for triangulation?

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    11. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by iwbcman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      After having read about Tesla's demoing of remote controlled(wireless) submarine which used digital logic for navigation at he 1896 World Fair in Chicago(IIRC), I went to the head of the Physics department at the University of Louisville(circa '89), to ask him what he thought about Tesla's contributions. The man looked at me with a straight face and declared that Tesla was a raving lunatic who had contributed nothing. That day I dropped out of my Electrical Engineering major. I figured that if the supposedly brightest minds in our department were a) so utterly ignorant b) so obnoxiously arrogant and c) whose imaginative capacities were dwarfed by common ants, that I had nothing to learn from them. Haven't looked back once in all the years.

      It would not be utterly misguided to view the history of electrical engineering in the last 100 years as the attempt to document and render reproducible that which Tesla intuitively grasped and understood.

      I didn't bother mentioning to the man that if it wasn't for that raving lunatic who had contributed nothing that he would a) be working in a room powered by candlelight or b) that we would have DC power generators on every city block providing electricity .....At the rate we are going we will still need another 100 years to catch up to where Tesla was 100 years ago....He managed to pull these things off *without* a body of knowledge composed by millions of people working together, around the world, for the last 100 years-without modern theories, without modern equipment, without decent funding, etc.

      And our geniuses of today nitpick and dismiss what Tesla did, because we are oh so much smarter nowadays, give me a friggin break...

    12. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by cybernanga · · Score: 2, Funny

      On the other hand, they had radios capable of transmitting hundreds of miles that could fit into something the size of a clock by the 20's, so maybe he wasn't that far off.

      Travel Alarm Clock, or Grandfather Clock?

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  17. Re:That's all fine and good by realityimpaired · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (And I have to say, is predicting a device really that special? Communication devices already existed, and this just said, one day they'll be smaller and mobile. I'm going to predict that in the future we'll have faster computers, and they'll be smaller too.)

    You're forgetting that he said it in a day and age where most people simply didn't have a telephone line at all, and if they did have one, they usually had a party line that they shared with their neighbours. Not only did he predict that communications devices would be smaller and mobile, he also said that everybody would have one, and that they'd be networked globally. That's a fairly big leap, and while you can argue in hindsight that the writing was on the wall, it's akin to predicting netbooks in 1943.

    And there's a few things that Tesla got wrong in his prediction... he said that it would be possible and easy for a single tower to control millions of devices from thousands of miles away. In reality there's millions of cell towers in the world, and each may have a few thousand phones on it at a maximum. There's a few orders of magnitude difference there.

  18. Tesla didn't predict this at all by AndyS2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nowhere does he say that we will use a complex network of machines to send and receive messages. He thought that you could easily transmit stuff directly to other devices even if they are hundreds of miles away and even if there are millions of them being used at the same time. This isn't true, just like the other things in the article are not possible with our current understanding of physics. I'm not very knowledgable about science, but I even doubt that this is at all possible in the way he described it.

    1. Re:Tesla didn't predict this at all by blind+biker · · Score: 2, Informative

      He thought that you could easily transmit stuff directly to other devices even if they are hundreds of miles away and even if there are millions of them being used at the same time. This isn't true [..]

      Actually, it is very true. There are ways to have several radio-devices communicating to each other directly using various multiplexing methods such as time division, frequency or just have packets collide and then detect the collision, like in Ethernet. And yes, the devices can and often are, hundreds of miles apart.

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    2. Re:Tesla didn't predict this at all by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do you not even feel ashamed for the amount of straw-man fallacies you use in there?

      As I did already said somewhere up there:
      He specifically talks about handheld devices “not bigger than a [wrist]watch” (last paragraph of the first column), used for communication. Which is exactly what mobile phones are. The BlackBerry that was stated in the title of the /. story, is a mobile phone. QED.

      Everything else in your comment is a made-up hallucination of your mind and fallacy over fallacy, too many to even list.
      And “This isn't true, just like the other things in the article are not possible with our current understanding of physics.” is a plain and simple lie. Or, no... wait, let me quote you to explain how you came up with this:

      I'm not very knowledgable about science,

      Aaah, that explains everything.

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  19. Re:That's all fine and good by d3ac0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And there's a few things that Tesla got wrong in his prediction... he said that it would be possible and easy for a single tower to control millions of devices from thousands of miles away. In reality there's millions of cell towers in the world, and each may have a few thousand phones on it at a maximum. There's a few orders of magnitude difference there.

    Can you really say he got it wrong though? Also note that he was talking about devices "no bigger than a wristwatch". My Palm Pre is significantly larger than a wristwatch, as are ALL mobile phones, smart or otherwise.

    Perhaps it is more correct to say that his vision hasn't been fully fulfilled yet, but that we are, for the first time, able to fully comprehend what he was talking about.

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  20. Partially right by OneAhead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reading the New York Times column as reproduced on recombu.com, it seems that Mr. Tesla was more interested in the wireless transmission of power, and that he saw the wireless transmission of speech, pictures and other data as a trivial side-effect. His article implicitly seem to address the question: how to give a handheld device enough power so that it can transmit radio signals that have a practical range, and his answer is wirelessly transmitted power. This is somewhat ironic because his obsession with wireless power transmission is what caused friction with his financiers and made him be in debt for most of his later life. His wireless power transmission plans were never realized in a practical way; nowadays, people would find them laughable because they would incur enormous transmission losses and there would be concerns about the health effect of having ultra-high-intensity radio waves all over the place. And even without the technical hurdles, it would be hard to force people to pay for the power they use... Powering handheld communication devices was ultimately made possible possible by advances in battery technology, energy-efficient electronics, and sensitive receiving stations placed at a very high geographic density (aka. cellular networks), reducing the powered needed to transmit signals. That said, there are some contemporary applications of wireless transmission of power, but most of them are low-power short-range, or use different technologies than the ones proposed by Tesla. The most interesting ones are devices that dissipate stray radio waves to prolong their own battery life; I believe Nokia has been toying with this technology. Tesla did predict something in those lines, although he envisaged using natural sources of radio waves.

    Of course, the incorrect parts of Tesla's prediction doesn't make the correct part any less impressive.

  21. Re:Surely you understand the difference by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most normal people simply say, "just a sec, I got a message on my phone."

    What wierdos call it a blackberry? is it the same ones that say, "I dont know, let me check my IPHONE. SEE IPHONE! LOOKIE!!!!! I'm trendy..... stop mocking me...."

    disclaimer: I have an iphone. I like it because it's the best tool for a business person at the moment.

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  22. Re:That's all fine and good by joeyblades · · Score: 2, Informative

    Kay proposed his Dynabook in 1972... but before that Gene Roddenberry and company proposed the PADD in Star Trek circa 1966. The iPad looks (and sounds) a lot more like PADD than the Dynabook.

    Hey, credit where credit is due!

  23. Re:Surely you understand the difference by slackbheep · · Score: 2, Informative

    Alternately it could be sarcasm.

  24. Re:That's all fine and good by LeoZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are cell phone watches out there. It's just that the demand for something so small is not around as it's not very convenient to use.

  25. Re:That's all fine and good by dnahelicase · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Or maybe we aren't there yet. He also mentions that the latest song or a new lecture might be seen around the world on these devices. Sure, that is technically capable now, but we have structured ourselves in such a way to try and prevent that from happening (I'm looking at you ACTA).

    But cell towers are a terrible way to design a system. Sure, they are the best method we have for overcoming signal quality and bandwidth requirements now, but a central station like Tesla envisions would be much better. Just like people laugh about the 4 watt suitcase cell phone from 1990, people might be laughing about the "There's a map for that" commercials from 2010.

    Plus I believe that we won't get down to wristwatch size without some leap in innovation. Even Star Trek had big wrist mounted devices because your fingers can't get any smaller.

  26. Re:That's all fine and good by QuantumLeaper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was stolen, since Alan Kay will always be a researcher who would rather have his innovations used. Alan Kay used to work for Apple and told Steve his he should increase the size of the iTouch and could rule the world. The Apple Newton could be consider a Dynabook v1, with the iTouch being v2 and the iPad being version 3 of Alan's dream computer. Also after Alan left Xerox Parc, he went to work for Apple in 1994, he is currently heading the institute he founded.
    Here is Alan's view on the iPad... http://www.tomshardware.com/news/alan-kay-steve-jobs-ipad-iphone,10209.html

  27. Re:That's all fine and good by QuantumLeaper · · Score: 2, Informative

    I meant, iPad wasn't Stolen by Apple.

  28. Classic bias error by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    He did some amazing stuff, and figures out AC. No real argument there.
    But he also predicted a ton of stuff, was a little mad, and everyone ignores the crap that didn't seem to pan out.

    At this point he is becoming Nostradamus of technology.
    Did some really advance stuff, but people only talks about his wild ass guess that may or may not have claimed with the person reading them says that claim.

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  29. Re:Loser by khellendros1984 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Edison was a businessman that did invention when he had to. He had a pretty kickass PR department, but he's a Bill Gates. He may've done some of the earlier work, but he essentially became management, directing his underlings toward discoveries. Tesla was the polar opposite. Pretty crappy at business, but a LOT of ideas. Some of them worked out (AC power, the concept of remote power transmission), some more would have worked given more time and money, and some would never work (teleportation, time travel, etc). Tesla was an eccentric, and maybe a little off his rocker....but I think he deserves more respect than Edison for his crazy ideas, drive to get them to work, and the fact that he *did* get some of them off the ground.

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  30. Stupid Humans by morgauxo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not just that the tendancy to worship someone. There's that that tendancy to choose a devil as well. It's human nature to always find a good vs evil struggle in something. Tesla and Edison both contributed greatly to the technological world we enjoy today. Yes, Tesla was a little insane. Yes, Edison was a businessman. Yes, they didn't like each other. They still both made great contributions. Without them progress would have been delayed. Someone would no doubt have made their discoveries but it would have been some time later. I couldn't say if it would be a long or short time but given most major inventions and discoveries in history have at least a little controversy as to who was actually first my bets are on shorter. Still, the other discoveries and inventions which built on there's would also be delayed. We would probably be living in a world equivalent to 1 to 3 decades in the past.

  31. Re:I thought that JP Morgan was the evil one by nacturation · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not only did J.P. Morgan suppress Tesla's most revolutionary work (by halting the flow of money)...

    That's like saying the lead investor suppressed Pets.com by halting the flow of money to it.

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  32. Re:Surely you understand the difference by nacturation · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most normal people simply say, "just a sec, I got a message on my phone." What wierdos call it a blackberry?

    The same weirdos who ask for a Kleenex instead of a facial tissue? Or who ask "Would you like a coke?" when they're asking if you'd like a carbonated beverage? Or who ask for an Aspirin instead of a tablet of acetylsalicylic acid?

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  33. Re:Loser by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Informative

    This would be the same Edison that resisted our modern electrical transmission standard tooth and nail until he finally hijacked it from Tesla.

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  34. Advertising disguised as journalism! by DesertRatInAZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is an idiotic story that I am ashamed made it on to Slashdot. Tesla never predicted BlackBerry; he predicted mobile technology for sending communications wirelessly (not to mention electricity transmission without wires). This technology is not exclusive to BlackBerry devices and writing an article with the the name BlackBerry (or any other name implying exclusivity) in the title smells of advertising being disguised as journalism. And that this article made it to Slashdot stinks even more, as I would have expected this to scrutinized and thrown out before it ever got proliferated to readers.