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BlackBerry Predicted a Century Ago By Nikola Tesla

andylim writes "According to the Telegraph, the BlackBerry was first predicted more than a century ago, by Nikola Tesla, the electrical engineer. Seth Porges, Popular Mechanics' current technology editor, disclosed Tesla's prediction at a presentation, titled '108 Years of Futurism,' to industry figures recently in New York. Recombu.com has published the original Popular Mechanics article in which Tesla predicts a mobile phone revolution."

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  1. Yet another example of why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tesla was a freakin genius.

    Our entire modern world wouldnt exist without him. And he never got any credit while he was alive.

    Hell, theres STILL stuff he came up with that we have no understanding of. Yet.

    1. Re:Yet another example of why... by Jurily · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. Basically if it runs on electricity, Tesla has a hand in it.

    2. Re:Yet another example of why... by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... Stuff he completely refused to document or explain, making it perfectly indistinguishable from the rantings of once-great scientist who has slipped into mediocrity, or even insanity. It's strange how you think the 'stuff' he came up with, that you don't understand, is somehow noteworthy. Surely that is irrational, as you don't know what it is. It's as if you are worshipping at the altar of Tesla. You're not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

    3. Re:Yet another example of why... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 5, Funny

      While this is surely a worthwhile endeavor for a young novice of the Church of St. Tesla, St. Tesla's day should be a great opportunity to just try your hands on some electronics.

      Just follow these simple commands:

      Thou shalt not presente your body as a path for ye electrone to reach ground, lest ye be smitten down.
      Thou shall only manipulate HV circuits with one hand, keeping the other behind your back, lest thou presenteth a path for ye electrone through thine hearte and be smitten down.
      Thou shalt not touch a big-arsed capacitor without discharching it before, lest ye be smitten down.
      Thou shall always remember that woode is only an isolator below a certain voltage, lest it presenteth a path for the electrone and filleth yer room with holy flame and smoke.
      Thou shall always use a decent head-sink for yer MOSFETs, lest ye olde magick smoke escapeth.

      Keep that in mind and rise from the lowly status of novice!

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  2. Free advertising going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the guy predicted text messaging. Impressive. But why does everything have to be a product placement nowadays?

    This case is especially stupid, since what really enables worldwide access to messaging are $20 phones.

  3. Not Surprised by MaxwellEdison · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't find it very surprising that someone obsessed with perfecting the wireless transmission of electricity would envision the wireless transmission of information. The fact that he predicted Apple would abandon flash though, was a bit of a shock.

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  4. Blackberry Advert by tom17 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pure Blackberry advertising to increase usage in the UK. Why should they correlate "possible to transmit wireless messages all over the world." with the BB and not, say, any phone since the mid 90's?

    Tom

    1. Re:Blackberry Advert by dave420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The real kicker is BlackBerry devices, and your aforementioned "any phone since the mid 90s", can't do that. Only satellite phones can do that, and I'm pretty sure RIM don't make those.

    2. Re:Blackberry Advert by grumling · · Score: 4, Informative

      TECHNICALLY, a satphone only transmits up to the closest satellite. Single sideband (PSK31 if you want data) on the HF bands can transmit all over the world.

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  5. Funny, I heard that one differently. by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Way back in the day when I was in high school I heard Tesla predicted the Internet, using exactly that quote. There's no arguing that Tesla did a lot of amazing things but he's no technological Nostradamus, no matter how much people try to shoehorn him into the role.

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  6. Please stop the needless sensationalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tesla anticipating the advent of portable communication devices does not in any way equate to him having predicted the BlackBerry.

    I've found that I'm making small scornful noises increasingly often while reading Slashdot and BetaNews headlines. I have yet to determine the threshold at which I will cease reading technology news altogether, but I feel it is rapidly approaching. I don't want to stop, so please, please, for the love of Christ please stop posting this frothy nonsense.

  7. Re:That's all fine and good by Jurily · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, Tesla was talking about the Nokia N900, but the submitter never heard about that one.

  8. Re:That's all fine and good by lxs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just wait until you read his letter on why the iPad sucks.

  9. Prior Art! by rnturn · · Score: 5, Funny

    It appears that Tesla thought of everything. So let's just toss out all those silly mobile patents and let the real innovation -- and competition -- begin.

    What did he have to say about audio and video encoding?

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  10. Tesla in 1909? Try Francis Bacon in 1623 by benwiggy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From Francis Bacon's "New Atlantis" of 1623:

    We represent also all multiplications of light, which we carry to great distance, and make so sharp as to discern small points and lines.
    We find also diverse means, yet unknown to you, of producing of light, originally from diverse bodies.We have also houses of deceits of the senses, where were present all manner of feats of juggling, false apparitions, impostures and illusions, and their fallacies.

    We have also sound-houses, where we practise and demonstrate all sounds and their generation. We have all means to convey sounds in trunks and pipes, in strange lines and distances.

    1. Re:Tesla in 1909? Try Francis Bacon in 1623 by bunratty · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bacon got it totally wrong. Everybody knows the Internet is a series of tubes, not pipes. Pfffft!

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  11. Re:That's all fine and good by mdwh2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, it makes a change from people round here talking about "Iphone-like device" to refer to "phone", and I'm surprised for once that the media have chosen Blackberry rather than Apple yet again.

    Really though, looking at the article:

    such a hand-held device would be simple to use and that, one day, everyone in the world would communicate to friends using it

    There's nothing here that even implies a QWERTY keyboard, or even being so-called "smart" (which is ill-defined anyway, and simply means the high end at any given time). This description refers to mobile phones in general (whether it's communicating by speech, text, or Internet - almost all phones do all these things).

    If anyone one company deserves the mention, it should be Nokia, who've shipped billions of these "hand-held devices" and have 40+% of the market. Other companies worthy of mention would be LG, Samsung, Motorola - in fact, RIM and Apple come rather low on the list.

    (And I have to say, is predicting a device really that special? Communication devices already existed, and this just said, one day they'll be smaller and mobile. I'm going to predict that in the future we'll have faster computers, and they'll be smaller too.)

  12. Nokia V apple by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SO does this invalidate the claims in Nokia V. Apple lawsuit. If wireless connectiviry was anticipated in 1909, are practical methods for carrying that out truly surprising 100 years later?

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  13. Count the misses, not just the hits. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hell, theres STILL stuff he came up with that we have no understanding of. Yet.

    That stuff is either genius or failed experiments. How would you know the difference?

    Note that this article predicts both the Internet and wireless technology, but with no mention of the digital aspects. It also predicts wireless power, such that a ship could be sent across the Atlantic, powered by a single wireless power station on one side. It predicted all of this would happen in something like 5 years.

    So he was wrong about how long it would take, and he threw out at least one other idea in that article that we haven't seen happen, and have no evidence can happen.

    I like Tesla as much as anyone else, but I'm not sure how to call this one. Fuzzy, at best. I think Orwell had it closer.

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    1. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by srmalloy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Note that this article predicts both the Internet and wireless technology, but with no mention of the digital aspects. It also predicts wireless power, such that a ship could be sent across the Atlantic, powered by a single wireless power station on one side. It predicted all of this would happen in something like 5 years.

      Tesla was, for the greater part of his life, badly hampered by a severe lack of money to carry out his more expansive projects. Some of this was due to his overgenerous nature, as when he gave up entirely the royalties Westinghouse owed him on the power-generation devices Tesla had designed, some was due to his lifelong habit of chasing ideas off in odd directions without consideration for their economic utility, and some was due to his inability to obtain funding from others -- Westinghouse, for example, refused to fund Tesla's development of a broadcast-power system after Tesla admitted that there would be no way to determine how much power any given end-user consumed, so there would be no way to bill them for it.

    2. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      While this article quotes Tesla predicting wireless technology, it is not very similar to what we actualy have. His prediction was for central switching stations, not distributed cell towers. What Telsa was talking about is not what we have today. It bears a superficial resemblance, but it is a completely different technology.

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    3. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by painandgreed · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note that this article predicts both the Internet and wireless technology, but with no mention of the digital aspects.

      But he did. Telsa was the inventor of the AND logic gate. When computers started to catch on and research was done and people went to patent their inventions, some of them found out that Telsa already had the patents some more than 50 years earlier because he was already developing the same techniques while trying to control devices wirelessly. So, he did do that, it just wasn't mentioned in the article probably because it wasn't seen as important at the time and because it was quite simply beyond everybody else.

      When Tesla developed weapons for the military and displayed them at a World's Fair, he demonstrated remote controlled submarines and torpedoes and tried to explain how both the submarines and torpedoes could be controlled and guided wirelessly by operators far away. In a time where a simply wireless system that allowed ships to talk to each other reliably, submarines, or torpedoes would have been a major military breakthrough, the army and navy just couldn't even comprehend what he was talking about let alone figure out how to use remote drones effectivly.

    4. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by Khyber · · Score: 3, Funny

      "The device that Tesla predicted would look completely different from a technical standpoint than the devices we have today."

      Really?

      Tesla mentioned one device being the size of a watch that you wore on your wrist to communicate with people all over the world.

      I HAVE ONE, it's called the M810 Tri-band wrist phone.

      Do you even pay attention to the things we have today or do you just sit in the cave, on the computer?

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    5. Re:Count the misses, not just the hits. by iwbcman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      After having read about Tesla's demoing of remote controlled(wireless) submarine which used digital logic for navigation at he 1896 World Fair in Chicago(IIRC), I went to the head of the Physics department at the University of Louisville(circa '89), to ask him what he thought about Tesla's contributions. The man looked at me with a straight face and declared that Tesla was a raving lunatic who had contributed nothing. That day I dropped out of my Electrical Engineering major. I figured that if the supposedly brightest minds in our department were a) so utterly ignorant b) so obnoxiously arrogant and c) whose imaginative capacities were dwarfed by common ants, that I had nothing to learn from them. Haven't looked back once in all the years.

      It would not be utterly misguided to view the history of electrical engineering in the last 100 years as the attempt to document and render reproducible that which Tesla intuitively grasped and understood.

      I didn't bother mentioning to the man that if it wasn't for that raving lunatic who had contributed nothing that he would a) be working in a room powered by candlelight or b) that we would have DC power generators on every city block providing electricity .....At the rate we are going we will still need another 100 years to catch up to where Tesla was 100 years ago....He managed to pull these things off *without* a body of knowledge composed by millions of people working together, around the world, for the last 100 years-without modern theories, without modern equipment, without decent funding, etc.

      And our geniuses of today nitpick and dismiss what Tesla did, because we are oh so much smarter nowadays, give me a friggin break...

  14. Re:That's all fine and good by realityimpaired · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (And I have to say, is predicting a device really that special? Communication devices already existed, and this just said, one day they'll be smaller and mobile. I'm going to predict that in the future we'll have faster computers, and they'll be smaller too.)

    You're forgetting that he said it in a day and age where most people simply didn't have a telephone line at all, and if they did have one, they usually had a party line that they shared with their neighbours. Not only did he predict that communications devices would be smaller and mobile, he also said that everybody would have one, and that they'd be networked globally. That's a fairly big leap, and while you can argue in hindsight that the writing was on the wall, it's akin to predicting netbooks in 1943.

    And there's a few things that Tesla got wrong in his prediction... he said that it would be possible and easy for a single tower to control millions of devices from thousands of miles away. In reality there's millions of cell towers in the world, and each may have a few thousand phones on it at a maximum. There's a few orders of magnitude difference there.

  15. Tesla didn't predict this at all by AndyS2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nowhere does he say that we will use a complex network of machines to send and receive messages. He thought that you could easily transmit stuff directly to other devices even if they are hundreds of miles away and even if there are millions of them being used at the same time. This isn't true, just like the other things in the article are not possible with our current understanding of physics. I'm not very knowledgable about science, but I even doubt that this is at all possible in the way he described it.

  16. Re:Blackberry? by jonbryce · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean the windmill, invented by Heron of Alexandria in approx 50AD?

  17. Re:Loser by khellendros1984 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Edison was a businessman that did invention when he had to. He had a pretty kickass PR department, but he's a Bill Gates. He may've done some of the earlier work, but he essentially became management, directing his underlings toward discoveries. Tesla was the polar opposite. Pretty crappy at business, but a LOT of ideas. Some of them worked out (AC power, the concept of remote power transmission), some more would have worked given more time and money, and some would never work (teleportation, time travel, etc). Tesla was an eccentric, and maybe a little off his rocker....but I think he deserves more respect than Edison for his crazy ideas, drive to get them to work, and the fact that he *did* get some of them off the ground.

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  18. Re:Loser by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Informative

    This would be the same Edison that resisted our modern electrical transmission standard tooth and nail until he finally hijacked it from Tesla.

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