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The Humble Indie Bundle

supersloshy writes "Last year, 2D Boy, the developers of the popular independent game World of Goo, had a pay-what-you-want birthday sale with curious results. For the next seven days, Wolfire Games is attempting the same kind of sale, but with some new twists. Wolfire Games' Humble Indie Bundle contains five independent games (World of Goo, Aquaria, Gish, Lugaru HD, and Penumbra) with no DRM and they are all cross-platform. In addition to directly supporting the developers of these five games, part of the money also goes to the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Child's Play Charity. No matter how much you spend, you also get to choose who your money goes to (charity only, developers only, evenly, or custom)."

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  1. Cross-platform by by+(1706743) · · Score: 2, Funny
    From TFA:

    All of the games work great on Mac, Windows, and Linux. We didn't want to leave anyone out.

    No *BSD, but still kinda neat!

  2. Re:Cheap, Fast, Good (Aha!) by KingAlanI · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Aha!
    If I pay a lot for it, that will make it fast and good

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  3. Support these guys! by khellendros1984 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I went in for $40. I've got World of Goo already, but I thought it would be nice to have Linux versions of these games. I figure that if even the indy devs don't get financial support for publishing Linux versions of software, the market will stay slow and dry forever.

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    1. Re:Support these guys! by RogueSeven · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed. It's offers like this where we Linux users can show we're a growing market, and we deserve games, too. I bought WoG during its previous name-your-price sale. It was good enough that I took the Humble Bundle plunge based on its inclusion, despite me knowing nothing about the other games offered here. I just figure they have to be good if they're next to WoG. The charity options really sweetened the deal. What's not to love here?

  4. Re:WoG... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Funny
  5. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by chill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not true. Ayn Rand-types won't necessarily pay zero for this. You're assuming they give no thoughts to future desires and only think of immediate costs and instant gratification, and that just isn't true.

    The developers get advertising, which they would otherwise have to pay for -- hence a measurable, monetary cost and a selfish desire on their par. Their similar stunt with World of Goo led me to purchase other games they developed because WoG showed me they were delivering quality, entertaining games. I no longer purchase games for any system without trying them out first. I've been burned too many times with over-hyped commercial games that turn out to be shit and a waste of money.

    Because *I* want these developers to continue what they are doing -- a selfish desire on my part -- I will pay cash towards that end. Consider it an opportunity to invest in future products by these developers. Speculation in the market, or an investment in future return if you will.

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  6. So much for consistency.. by VMaN · · Score: 4, Funny

    World of Goo: .deb
    Aquaria: .run
    Gish .tar.gz
    Lugaru HD: .bin
    Penumbra .sh

    Now that's just silly :D

    1. Re:So much for consistency.. by godrik · · Score: 5, Funny

      NO ! This! Is ! Linux !
      *kick*

    2. Re:So much for consistency.. by joey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, Gish is x86-64, the rest x86-32 (except World of Goo, which works with either).

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    3. Re:So much for consistency.. by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Funny

      To be fair there's no way Gish could come in anything but a tarball.

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    4. Re:So much for consistency.. by PhireN · · Score: 2, Informative

      I contacted them about this, and he added the 32bit binary into the tar.gz in just 5min.
      Excellent customer service.

  7. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Freedom allows us to fulfill our desires, not just our basic needs. Food and shelter alone are not enough for happiness.

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  8. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which they shouldn't.

    I'm sorry, what? There is no "should" or "shouldn't", there's merely what is. And clearly these people are eating just fine. So anything or anyone that says they shouldn't is plainly wrong. What you fail to grasp is that people are willing to pay something more than they necessarily have to for the knowledge that they are contributing and therefore encouraging future work - both from those particular individuals and others who can see from that example that talent and hard work can be enough to make a living.

    In other words, there are plenty of consumers who need only the carrot (the prospect that their payment will be rewarded by production of future works) to pay fairly. Unfortunately most established industries are managed by people who like you who continue to deny what's actually happening with the belief that their philosophy will prove true in the end, and therefore always fall back to the stick method of threatening, DRM-encumbering, and generally treating their (potential) customers like criminals.

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  9. Short review of Aquaria by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a Metroid-like game set underwater with you playing as a sort of a mermaid. The world is fairly large - maybe a bit too large, even. Good mix of puzzle solving and action. The control style takes some getting used to, but that helps to add to the sense that you're not playing the same old platforming game. Some of the boss fights will make you want to throw a controller. The art design is seriously beautiful - it's 2D sprites for everything, but the overall direction of the graphics is really lovely, as well as the excellent music. I recommend it (though I haven't finished it yet - it really is a bit long.)

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    1. Re:Short review of Aquaria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Similarly, a review of Penumbra.

      Penumbra is a series with two titles and one expansion back, it's a survival-horror adventure, and takes a lot of cues from the Cthulu mythos and HP Lovecraft's writing (though has a rather unique story). Overture is fantastic - you need to get used to it though, so give it at least 30 minutes or an hour before just saying "pft!" There is very little focus on combat, and a lot more focus on stealth, avoidance, and problem solving. The story is brilliantly written and atmospheric. The only real problem they have is this first chapter (Overture) does permit very rudimentary combat, but the enemies don't have a good AI for combat, so you end up with the enemies you actually can kill (spoiler: some hell-hound type dogs) not being that scary once you figure out the trick to killing them. Outside of that though, it's really one of the only games that has ever been _haunting_ to me. Highly recommend it.

    2. Re:Short review of Aquaria by mewsenews · · Score: 2, Informative

      Too bad Bit Blot are no longer together, or so it seems.

      Alec Holowka of Bit Blot went on to form Infinite Ammo. He is very talented.

  10. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Bombcar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Dwarf Fortress guy made $16k last month. And his game is donation-only. And the donations aren't required.

  11. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by MtHuurne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any sufficiently advanced selfishness is indistinguishable from altruism?

  12. Re:PayPal/Amazon/Google CO by Killer+Orca · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can pay through paypal without an account there, they just process the order. All you do is select the paypal option then click the radio button that says "pay by credit card".

  13. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For some of us, programming is about recreation. Slashdot likes car analogies, so how about this: I know people who make money working on cars, and I have friends who do the same thing for themselves on the weekend because they enjoy it.

    You know, there are lots of individuals and businesses whose business plan includes giving something away for free. It absolutely does help pay the bills.

  14. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If only they get that kind of money month after month...

    2010
    April Donations: $16,104.49
    March Donations: $4,387.99
    February Donations: $1,452.57
    January Donations: $2,291.50
    2009
    December Donations: $4,762.98
    November Donations: $5,122.29
    October Donations: $1,759.27
    September Donations: $2,138.21
    August Donations: $2,510.86
    July Donations: $2,202.37
    June Donations: $2,723.83
    May Donations: $2,221.92
    April Donations: $2,549.15
    March Donations: $2,997.46
    February Donations: $1,428.62
    January Donations: $2,099.48
    2008
    December Donations: $5,279.49
    November Donations: $1,305.10
    October Donations: $1,868.30
    September Donations: $1,695.48

    source

  15. Re:Noble, but sad by grnbrg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except that the totals currently show otherwise...

    - Total raised $55,481
    - Average contribution $7.74
    - Number of contributions 7169

  16. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Surt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe. Does the free release of my work gain me notoriety that helps me to make future sales? We're not all short term minimalist thinkers.

    And besides, both food and housing are guaranteed to all US citizens.*

    * Some restrictions may apply, see county jail for details.

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  17. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Surt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Altruism is always a disguised form of selfishness. Even anonymous donors donate because it makes them feel good.

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  18. Re:BSD is *fully* supported: Mac OS X by PyroMosh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would you use anything else?

    Because you don't own Apple-approved hardware to run it on, but you want (legal) BSD anyway?

  19. Re:Noble, but sad by eqreed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except that I wasn't planning on buying it at all. Now I'll buy it and pay something for it. Something > Nothing.

    I'd imagine that most people who wanted it would have already bought it by now. They're squeezing money out of people who wouldn't have bought it at the higher price.

    Although, I have a feeling that sales will plummet after this week.

  20. Re:BSD is *fully* supported: Mac OS X by by+(1706743) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mac OS X *is* BSD, and it is the best designed, most secure, most reliable, most usable BSD ever made. Why would you use anything else?

    I use shell expansion of the * character -- so *BSD expands to NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc. It doesn't expand to Mac OS X.

  21. Re:Noble, but sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Except that the totals currently show otherwise...

    - Total raised $55,481
    - Average contribution $7.74
    - Number of contributions 7169

    I only donate in geeky amounts. Here are some recommendations

    $1.87 (on a motherfucking cop) - rap geek
    $11.11 - binary geek
    $10.66 - european history geek
    $14.92 - american history geek
    $13.37 - computer geek
    $31.41 - math geek

  22. Licensing Disconnect by kainewynd2 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From the website:

    We don't use DRM. When you buy these games, they are yours. Feel free to play them without an internet connection, back them up, and install them on all of your Macs and PCs freely.

    Now, from the EULA:

    1.1 License Grant. 2D BOY hereby grants to you a non-exclusive license to use a single copy of the object code version of the Game for your personal, non-commercial home entertainment use on one personal computer or other compatible electronic device. You may sell or transfer your copy of the Game to another person along with, and subject to, your rights under this EULA, only if you do not retain any copies.

    Emphasis is mine. It looks like Marketing might want to talk to Legal here...

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    1. Re:Licensing Disconnect by godrik · · Score: 2, Informative

      IANAL, but I feel that you can install it on as many machin as you want provided you only use a single one at a time.

  23. Re:Wish they would do more of this for consoles by kalirion · · Score: 2, Informative

    If your PC was built during the last 7 years, it shouldn't any trouble running Gish or World of Goo, or even Penumbra for that matter.

  24. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by kalirion · · Score: 3, Funny

    But not for long.

  25. Missing option: by Madsy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I abstain from buying because I don't think I can pay enough for so many games in good conscience. The games are decent, and the 20 USD I can afford now wouldn't do the games justice.
    The whole "experiment" is useless without this option, in my opinion. They're going to see a bunch of people paying 1 cent going to EFF and conclude "what a bunch of cheapskates", when there is a good amount of people who either could buy later (after the offer limit), or refuse to buy that many games hands-down, because they actually *value* those games at 70-80 USD and think it's too much money to spend.

    These kind of people won't show up in the statistics.

    1. Re:Missing option: by harrkev · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, if you DID give $20, then the developers would have $20 more than if you did NOT buy. I think that this is kind of the point of this.

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    2. Re:Missing option: by grumbel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You could always just pay and not download all the games, as each game is a separate download.

    3. Re:Missing option: by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is $20 they otherwise would not get at all, so go for it. It is also about 3 times the average.

  26. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    True. Even after taxes, it is likely comparable to the salary he would have earned if he had stayed on at the math department.

    And he earned it working on his life goal, crafting video games. Whereas, I spend each and every day having my soul sucked out in a monotonous grind of code reviews and ever shifting and contradicting requirements.

  27. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by ooshna · · Score: 2, Funny

    -1 Troll. No /.er ever uses a car analogy that fits perfectly with their point. Nice try.

  28. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's a somewhat different kind of selfishness, though. Rand, being somewhat Nietzschean in orientation (especially early on), isn't a pure hedonist (do what makes you feel good), but feels that some kinds of instincts and desires are "better" than other kinds, and (like Nietzsche) classifies some of the things traditionally thought of as "altruism" as bad ones.

  29. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by SETIGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Altruism is always a disguised form of selfishness.

    That's some pretty bizarre bullshit. That's right up there with concluding that every human behavior is logical and can always be explained. In aggregate, maybe there is a small tendency for altruism to improve the status of the altruistic. But for individual actions, you could never make that claim that an altruistic person always expects a benefit.

    Not to mention that Rand felt that altruism was ethically unsupportable. That claim has led her followers to propose some really zany ideas.

  30. Re:PayPal/Amazon/Google CO by GumphMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... and keeping hunting for the link on each successive page that will let you continue without creating a PayPal account. PayPal go to great lengths to coerce people into signing up for an account by making it seem compulsory and making these buttons the obvious ones.

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  31. just went over 80.000 $ by pwilli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems the experiment runs very well. The slashvertisment surely helped to spread the word.

    Biggest problem for such Indie-Developers is imho not the intentional lack of DRM and the resulting unlicensed copying of the games, but the lack of media coverage. As the numbers show, there are enough people out there who are willing to pay for games, even if they could get them for free. And I was one of them.

    btw. while I typed this, the counter went over 84.000 $. I wonder how much they'll collect over the remaining 6 days.

  32. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Funny

    there are plenty of consumers who need only the carrot (the prospect that their payment will be rewarded by production of future works) to pay fairly. Unfortunately most established industries are managed by people who like you who continue to deny what's actually happening with the belief that their philosophy will prove true in the end, and therefore always fall back to the stick method of threatening, DRM-encumbering, and generally treating their (potential) customers like criminals.

    To their credit, I, a potential customer, am a criminal (though less in terms of pirating and more in terms of public urination) and I hate carrots.

  33. Re:Ayn Rand, do you hear me? by PylonHead · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

    'No,' says the man in Washington, 'it belongs to the poor.'
    'No,' says the man in the Vatican, 'it belongs to God.'
    'No,' says the man in Moscow, 'it belongs to everyone.'

    I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...

    Rapture.

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  34. Re:BSD is *fully* supported: Mac OS X by RichiH · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mod me -1 nitpick, but you mean globbing, not "shell expansion".

  35. Pay $100 or more by supersloshy · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you pay $100 or more (split any way you like), you get a complimentary EFF Pioneer Level Membership.
    Source.

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