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Telecom Plan To Take Over the Internet Isn't Real
wiredog writes "The Telcos' Secret Anti-Net Neutrality Strategy is actually a student project. The 'No Net Brutality' campaign idea was one of the four finalists created as an assignment for a two-and-a-half week 'think tank MBA' program. The other finalists were a project promoting free speech in Venezuela, one supporting education reform in Poland, and one dealing with sales tax rates in Washington, DC. ('No Net Brutality' came in third. The Polish reform idea won.)"
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Just a distraction from the truth.
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There are a BUNCH of really interesting, truly nerdy stories in the firehouse...why does crap like this always find a way through?
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It was a kdawson story. Duh.
Seriously though, if you thought that was real, your BS detector is broken.
That it not to say that it could not have been real, but you should not have believed it without independent verification.
Go green: turn off your refrigerator.
This was an ingenious plan to future proof the kids by teaching them the secret recipe for Polish ice.
Think Progress has updated their site, standing behind the news that "No Net Brutality" was influenced by industry/lobbyists.
Fake or not, it leads to a decent enough slogan which we really haven't had yet:
Support Net Neutrality - Not Net Brutality.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Alex jones must be getting popular if people think this is true. ;-)
Think Progress posted their own response to CNET's claims. Don't know Whose true http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/11/netneutrality-grover-afp/
AW SNAP! I've been had. Hard. For like 8 years going now. WTFBBQSauce! For great justice! Natalie Portman and my grits are angry!
In Soviet Russia, I have you!
Wait, WTF was that?
Get off my lawn. And many many more memes.
Back to the subject at hand...if this was simply a PP think-tank style project from some college kid, then get that kid a job at the nearest monopolistic telecomm ASAP.
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I posted this there, I bet it doesn't make it up, who knows. "If the fact that the internet was begun by DARPA grants and colleges is not a hint at the original intent then please correct me. Net neutrality should mean one thing and one thing only. That the providers of internet services are not allowed to censure, block, or constrict the flow and any information which a customer is putting over their networks. That said, it could be argued that this would not apply to spammers and hackers. That would be a narrow scope in such a case. I have payed for generally substandard internet for the last 15+ years. Very seldom is the service equal to the bill of goods the provider tells you you are getting. Does the government need control of the internet at a granular level? I think not. Do they need the ability to keep companies like comcast, time warner, at&t, verizon, etc. from limiting certain types of traffic so that they can financially benefit with one of their inferior, competitive services? I think the answer is an absolute YES! Paint this turd what ever happy color you want but it will still be crap underneath. I commend you for the attempt at spinning this though." Make no mistake, internet neutrality will fall. The corporations have very deep pockets and will lobby any dirt bag sell out politician they need to to get total control of the internet. Then we are at the mercy of them. We are at the starting stages of the same kind of thing that happened with the gas companies. We have no choice and therefore no control. The only way to stem this inevitable outcome would be to have the municipalities own the Fiber/copper to the home and force all providers to one point. In this way they are forced to compete with each other for the customer and his dollar. The down side to this are many as well. The municipality then would have to charge to maintain the lines. If they are like the DWP here in southern California they would turn this in to a revenue generator and continue to up prices for their out of control spending. This would happen even if they were to roll out a completely passive fiber network that required little to maintain or upgrade beyond the initial outlay. It would also provide a single point of attack for the nut cases we have to deal with from time to time. It would for sure bring into focus the possibility of traffic monitoring, snooping and outright spying and make it far easier for the government or the smart nefarious character. At the end of the day I don't see much good on the horizon. Mike
nothing to be embarrassed about. actual corporate propaganda against net neutrality is even more divorced from reality.
Doesn't anyone remember when this first started? We had everyone from the ACLU to the Christian Coalition jumping up and down and saying that the plan by major ISPs and telcos to hijack big web pages unless they were paid not to was flat-out intolerable. We were united.
Then came the lobbyists.
They started with the question, "What are you going to do about it?" And then we got split into market-based solutions (boycotts) and regulation, with neither side seeing eye-to-eye. Next, they tried to redefine "Net Neutrality." When we made it, what we meant by it was, "Don't hijack our web pages!" But they said "Neutrality? They want some kind of Communist equality! We can't use QoS any more or make our networks better!" And now, most people think in terms of their version of "Net Neutrality." They assume it's like the Fairness Doctrine and that it means the government would regulate the content of web pages or some other crap.
Doesn't anyone else remember when this started? Before the lobbyists split this into a conservative/liberal issue? Back when we all agreed that having ISPs hijack popular websites unless bribed not to was a terrible thing?
Because I do. And I feel like the only one.
Just a way for the government to cover-up aircraft experiments.
"Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one," Albert Einstein.
that's exactly what THEY(1) want us to believe.
(1) Replace with favorite conspiracy group (Illuminati, aliens, The Man,...)
beginning to?
The stories and info posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only fools would take it as fact.
The "Think Tank MBA" contest is not affiliated with any school or MBA program, but is run by a right-wing advocacy organization. The contestant in question is not even a student, but is an employee of another right-wing advocacy organization.
To think, I used to read that moron's old blog. I guess I've grown up since then.
To "The Center for American Progress in Never Admitting That We Made a Silly Mistake Because Everything Bad Is The Fault of Lobbyists Who Are Not Us".
I'd make one heck of business card...
the PowerPoint document was prepared as a class project for a competition in Florida last month. It cost the six students a grand total of $173.95, including $18 for clip art...the contestants spent all of $173.95 on the idea, including printing and $20 to register the .com and .org domain names.
Wait... what? I made several power point presentations for classes. My budget for the presentation was always the same: zero dollars. I didn't even pay for the powerpoint I was using. How do you spend $18 on clipart?
then get that kid a job at the nearest monopolistic telecomm
I'm guessing thats *exactly* what the kid had in mind when he wrote it.
As I said yesterday the content was laughably stupid. I actually was thinking that Think Progress had created it.
Actually, the fact that I thought it was real just shows how sad and pathetic the state of affairs in our country has become.
No, it shows how gullible you and other 20-somethings are to believe whatever you read on the Web. Critical thinking is no longer in vogue, the "truth" is whatever the Slashdot Group Think and Twitter / Digg / Whatever pipe to you. Blogs have to be more accurate than "real" news sources, right?
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Think Progress posts some bullshit. Now there's a big surprise. I think I'm going to have a heart attack and die from that surprise.
Behind every troll article you will find some sort of slashvertisement.
Domains are practically free. A few dollars. Hosting is (if you at first assume it to be only a small project site that doesn't require above 99.9% reliability) practically free. Even a student can easily skip one night out and spend the same money for such a site. (Or - if he has friends studying CS who are willing to lend him some extra space on some server - they might get the hosting for free)
Now, assume you like to dabble with computers (which is a given for someone who would make a project around that concept), are getting closer to graduation and want to make a small portfolio. Project sites like that seem like a great investment, especially if you enjoy the time spent working with them.
I haven't RTFA (this is /., after all) and I haven't even followed the subject enough to know what this Telecom plan would have been all about. Even so, spending the handful of dollars and a few hours to build a site around some project about which you are proud seems like a completely normal thing to do for a modern student.
Well, it was on Slashdot, but I don't remember the original story and I don't have a lot of time at work to search for it. But someone with some Google-fu ought to be able to dig it up. And Save The Internet started up right away. I believe they coined "Net Neutrality."
am glad they did not foret about poland.
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WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
No, we all know that all the comments in /. are written by the same person. Prove me wrong.
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
Should read "Telecom Plan To Take Over the Internet Wasn't Real"
As I said yesterday the content was laughably stupid. I actually was thinking that Think Progress had created it.
Nope, it was Declan, a notirious, right wing Libertarian whore who single-handedly sicced the MPAA's lawyers on the earliest project for getting DVD playback working on Linux (google Declan and Livid), in an effort to create a fictitious hoax where there was none. Typical right-wing tactics...create their own hoax, then blame it on the left to discredit the left and push through their toxic agenda.
In this case, to undermine the neutrality of the Internet infrastructure we take for granted, all with the blessing of knee-jerk idiots subscribing to the dogma that government can do no right (a laughable premis that can only be taken seriously by one who pointedly ignores decades of success in various lands around the world, including the US, and exaggerating those inevitable failures that will occur to any organization that operates for any non-trivial length of time).
Read the first link.
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