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Sony Unveils Flexible OLED Thinner Than a Hair

Elliot Chang writes "For Sony's newest display, the company decided to throw into the mix ultra-thinness (just 80m or a bit thinner than a human hair) and the energy-saving power of OLEDs. The new prototype is so bendy that it can be wrapped around a pencil while still streaming video!"

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  1. 80m? Quite a hair. by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Funny

    > just 80m or a bit thinner than a human hair

    80 meters is a pretty substantial hair.

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  2. micrometers by egcagrac0 · · Score: 2

    If you can't mu, u.

  3. Video on akihabaranews by exhilaration · · Score: 5, Informative
  4. Flexible gadgets are undeniably sexy, eh? by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Flexible gadgets are undeniably sexy

    I kept telling her that, but she wouldn't fall for it.

  5. video pencils by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Funny

    The new prototype is so bendy that it can be wrapped around a pencil while still streaming video!"

    and to think, in my day we were happy with a plastic woman whose undies floated off when you tipped it up.

    1. Re:video pencils by dubbreak · · Score: 4, Funny

      and to think, in my day we were happy with a plastic woman whose undies floated off when you tipped it up.

      Think of how that can be improved on! Just add an accelerometer and it can cue a video of woman stripping when tipped. Shake the pen and it will skip to a different woman (3 stock woman but you can either have a monthly subscription or purchase individual new penstrip avatars for $0.99 each). Algorithms can determine your preferences and suggest new avatars... etc

      The future is awesome. It can't come quick enough.

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    2. Re:video pencils by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It can't come quick enough.

      I think it just did.

  6. Why does it look so horrible? by ArbitraryDescriptor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Granted, it's the best video quality I have seen wrapped around a pencil, but those artifacts are pretty unacceptable. Are they supposed to be there?

    1. Re:Why does it look so horrible? by ArbitraryDescriptor · · Score: 4, Informative

      Gizmodo has a video. The 'dead' strips seem to change as it get's bent. It's cool.. but that doesn't seem like a problem easily solved.

    2. Re:Why does it look so horrible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For a prototype, though, this is pretty smurfing impressive.

      Yeah, too many people here don't seem to acknowledge that this is an early prototype. They're acting like Sony's going to start marketing these things as is in a few weeks or something.

  7. Too bad. by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Too bad sony is making it. Guess I will have to wait for a chinese knockoff. No way is sony getting any of my money.

    1. Re:Too bad. by sconeu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure that this is cool. But...

      Sarcasm aside, I refuse to buy any Sony products either. Not because I'm afraid there's a rootkit there, but because Sony Corp. has stated via said rootkit, that they think I'm a criminal, and they don't give a shit if they damage my property.

      Given that corporate attitude, the only way I can "punish" them is by refusing to give them my money.

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    2. Re:Too bad. by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They are clearly always a step or 10 ahead of everyone else

      Like in mobile phones? Or music players

      Sony is a lot like HP--a once-great engineering company that has been given over too and ruined by marketing drones, at least at the consumer product level. Their pro video equipment is still great stuff but even in that realm Sony no longer rules the way it once did.

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    3. Re:Too bad. by Urkki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why not? Do you think they rootkitted the OLED?

      Maybe not yet, but it's just a matter of time...

      But seriously, DRM technology will eventually be tightly integrated with display technology itself, the display surface itself. And Sony will be leading the way.

    4. Re:Too bad. by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Indeed; they taught me that they were not a reputable company when they put malware on music CDs, and again when they took away functionality from devices their poor customers had purchasd after those customers had bought and paid for those devices. Sony coouldn't be more evil if Satan himself was CEO.

      In fact, they're so untrustworthy in my eyes I won't even believe in this breakthrough until the Amazing Randi says it's not an illusion.

      Why anyone would give Sony their hard-earned money, especially for computer gear, is beyond my comprehension.

  8. But when? by michael_cain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But when will I be able to buy a reasonable-size and reasonable-price display that uses OLEDs? Lab toys are cute, but real products are sexy.

    1. Re:But when? by barkingcorndog · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want an Oompa-Loompa NOW!

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  9. Nice. Not great but nice. by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How much?
    How big can you get it?
    How long will it last?
    When will it ship?

    You know the kind of important info...

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  10. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Angst+Badger · · Score: 5, Funny

    80 meters is a pretty substantial hair.

    You can't expect much grasp of metric units from Americans. It was bad enough when they used the Imperial system, but nowadays they have only two units of scale: a human hair and the state of Texas. Anything in between is just passed over in embarrassed silence.

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  11. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Glarimore · · Score: 5, Funny

    They obviously mean microns, but either don't know the abbreviation or accidently left out a .

  12. Aspect Ratio fix by aapold · · Score: 3, Funny

    I like the idea of being able to switch my aspect ratio by stretching the screen.....

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  13. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Stickybombs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not true, we have football fields and libraries of congress as well! He meant to say it is just under 1 football field.

  14. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As you can now see, it's Slashdot's fault. Apparently someone is too lazy to update the Unicode whitelist with characters that are actually useful on a tech site.

  15. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Glarimore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apparently slashdot won't take the micro symbol in comments. I don't know what is more fail: a board for nerds not allowing the micro symbol in comments or the fact that I didn't properly proofread by one sentence post.

  16. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    or the fact that I didn't properly proofread by one sentence post

    Even more fail would be not proofreading a post commenting on not proofreading.

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  17. Re:That's awesome by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, there are some advantages to distortion. Think the girl in your adult video is a bit too chunky? Just bend the edges of the screen toward you!

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  18. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    More common is to use 'um' for micron when a mu is not available.

  19. Re:That's awesome by sznupi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I imagine such screens would be useful during the process of manufacture of various gadgets (and after production remaining in one shape, with hard translucent shell around it; otherwise it would be damaged too easily). In that case distortion shouldn't be a problem.

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  20. Re:Summary of comments so far by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "it's not how well the bear dances,
    but that the bear dances at all"


    ... and also that he doesn't maul your face off and take your vodka, commrade...

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  21. 45 Comments and no applications by Tekfactory · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously,

    Sunglasses with HUD, Contact Lenses with onscreen displays, Fingernail Applicques a la Cyberpunk. Subdermal vital signs readout, Passports, Driver's Licenses and Credit Cards with really cool security features.

    Every book and magazine you wanted to read ever on a 1 or 2 page Ebook reader way thinner than anything we have now. Yeah, batteries and storage will take up some room. At some point the interface, and charging equipment will be the bottleneck to making smaller system.

    1. Re:45 Comments and no applications by robot256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At some point the interface, and charging equipment will be the bottleneck to making smaller system.

      Not even. Just wait til resonant inductive charging and micro high-speed RF become common, then your paper-thin ereader will have wi-fi and a constant power source.

    2. Re:45 Comments and no applications by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      you still have focal point problems. Been there done that. did research on information HUD's with the big guys..

      It's hard to get past the change in focus. you cant have a perfectly clear hud superimposed over your vision at all times.

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    3. Re:45 Comments and no applications by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every book and magazine you wanted to read ever on a 1 or 2 page Ebook reader way thinner than anything we have now.

      You're thinking in the wrong dimension. This is working towards an ebook reader which you can roll up so you can carry it around in your shirt pocket. Back in ancient times, they rolled up parchment so it would take less storage space. Those scrolls got replaced by books with pages because you needed to keep scrolling parchment to continue reading, and it was easier to flip a bunch of pages than to scroll to the section you wanted.

      Ebook readers eliminate the need to physically turn pages, and so once again rolling becomes the most space-efficient storage method.

    4. Re:45 Comments and no applications by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, not exactly. A Piece of paper lying flat would require less space than a rolled up piece of paper. A book not only easier to read, but also very space efficient. Considering an Iphone is already small enough to fit in your pocket, why would you make it bulkier by putting it into a scroll?

      Making it foldable does double its ability to be stored in spaces of varying dimensions, but its not like making a device designed to play video ROLL up is going to make it any more efficient, unless you have a video player with the 1 to 1000 aspect ratios they had on ancient scrolls. Folding just makes it flexible. (Haha, I made a funny)

  22. Re:Get over yourself. by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sony pulled a stunt FIVE YEARS AGO.

    Try last month. They unconditionally (and probably illegally) pulled out a major feature of the PS3 for all PS3 owners.

  23. Re:What happens by sznupi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesn't have to be meant for screens foldable to end user. Just for fab making gadgets.

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  24. Re:Get over yourself. by VGR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Get over yourself. Sony pulled a stunt FIVE YEARS AGO.

    And aside from the price of minor public outrage, they have paid virtually no price for doing it. (Forgive me if I don't view having to pay each affected customer $7.50 or a voucher for a free song download as a significant punishment.)

    You're correct that completely avoiding Sony products is next to impossible, but that's hardly a reason to give up on trying to impose a punishment. Where choice exists, one can choose not to go with Sony.

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  25. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dont forget our standard unit for fluid flow: hogsheads per acre fortnight.

  26. Re:Artifacts by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wrapping a display around a pencil while it's in use is not especially useful. The point of the demo is that you can have a display that is wrapped around a cylinder and rolled out when you use it. The big advantage that a laptop has over a palmtop now is screen size. A folding keyboard that is big enough to be comfortable can easily fit in a pocket, but you're limited to something like a 4" screen. With an OLED like this, you could have a much larger screen which is simply rolled up when not in use. Eventually, you could have a pocket computer the same form factor as a pen, which you just unrolled wherever you wanted to use it. Connect a wireless keyboard if you want to do a lot of text entry, otherwise use the touchscreen. The system on chip and battery remain in the pen body.

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  27. Re:Get over yourself. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nope. all my panasonic gear has NO sony components in it.

    no Sony chips inside. It's one reason why I went Panasonic... they dont use ANY sony parts and are a glass maker on their own as well.

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  28. Re:Summary of comments so far by MRe_nl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All i can say from the specs is you'll need a pretty dark room to see anything. The sun has a luminance of about 1 billion cd/m2, fluorescent lamps about 10,000 cd/m2, the iphone-screen has a peak luminance of 428 cd/m2, and this is only 100 cd/m2. (cd=candelabra).Any stronger light-source shining on the picture (or your eyes)=less picture.
    That would mean almost all light sources with this tech so far, even reflected light/backlightcan be >100 cd/m2.

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  29. Re:That's awesome by Garble+Snarky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or to make devices with retracting/rollup screens, that's what I'm really looking forward to.

  30. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Funny

    nowadays they have only two units of scale: a human hair and the state of Texas.

    Not quite true. The human hair unit has three levels: the hair, the cunt hair and the red cunt hair.

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  31. Re:Artifacts by cmiller173 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know if you (or anyone else) remember the "Global Link" handheld computers in the science fiction series "Earth: Final Conflict". It was a compact device that slid open to reveal what had to be a rolled up screen. Similar to the mockup on this page: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/google-and-sirius-xm-build-my-dream-handheld/9233 I've been waiting 13 years for them to build one.

  32. Re:Get over yourself. by doctor_no · · Score: 4, Insightful

    GIve me a break, people that spew this BS haven't actually used Linux on the PS3.

    It was NOT a "major" feature, I was on the YDL forums (the most active PS3 Linux community online) and it was a ghost town.

    Quite frankly, PS3 on the Linux was useless, it had 256MB or RAM, less then 200MBs were usable, you could hack it to access GPU memory but it was overall pretty much useless. PPU builds of applications were hard to find, you were stuck without Flash (crappy Gnash work around), and old version of Firefox (no HTML5), and any cheap netbook would run circles around it.

    The worst part is after 3 years of Linux on the PS3 nobody made any substantial Cell applications. There was barely any community support. Nobody cared.

    All these whiners complaining about he loss of Linux of the PS3; where the hell were you when it was available?

  33. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by Rigrig · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is really that useful? If you whitelist then should also be allowed, along with , and . Before you know it people will be asking for , or even !

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  34. Speaking of which, can we use named entities yet? by Benfea · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • (lc micro)
    • (uc theta)
    • (trademark)
    • — (em dash)
    • ” (right double quote)
    • (horizontal ellipses)

    I guess the answer is “sorta”.

  35. Now I wanna know which ones are implemented... by Benfea · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...and which not. Is there a list somewhere?
    • Á (uc A acute)
    • é (lc e acute)
    • ö (o umlaut)
    • ø (o slash)
    • (right arrow)
    • (for all)
    • (empty set)
    • (congruent)
    • (not equal)
    • ± (plus or minus)
    1. Re:Now I wanna know which ones are implemented... by geezer+nerd · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is a list of defined character entities for HTML here: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html Unfortunately, Slashdot does not seem to accommodate them very well. I tried μ for Greek mu, and that did not work at all.

  36. Re:Get over yourself. by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Informative

    and people are still unsuspectingly installing rootkits using Sony CDs made several years ago... I have a few CDs I have to hold down the left shift key for when loading them just to be doubly sure...

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  37. Re:Get over yourself. by IndigoDarkwolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Putting Linux on the PS3 served one single purpose: Revealing to everyone the kind of crap we game developers have to put up with when making games for the damn thing.

  38. Re:Get over yourself. by B4D+BE4T · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quite frankly, PS3 on the Linux was useless

    (Assuming you meant Linux on the PS3)

    Many, including the US Air Force would beg to differ.

  39. Re:Get over yourself. by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cellphone = iPhone and no sony chips.

    Car = GM and nope, Delphi does not source sony chips. In fact sony does not have any chips for engine management or automotive systems.

    Crestron gear - i doubt it. Coffee maker has no chips. Stove, Fridge... not a chance.

    Sony really is not a massive chip maker anymore. It's rare to have a sony chip anymore unless it's a specific sony technology or device... Blu Ray players... They have a sony parts...

    I will not buy a blu ray player. It's a dumb thing to own IMO. I use an AppleTV and a roku box for my HD movies.

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  40. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by shipbrick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Common geeks, ascii code (hold alt and press 230 then release) - tadum ->
    Well it doesn't work.. I stand corrected, or slashdot translates it too well and it's just to small to see.

  41. Re:80m? Quite a hair. by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well look, if I only have a teaspoon on hand then that's what I measure with.

    Honestly, your elitism is quite off-putting. You should be ashamed.