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The Race To Beer With 50% Alcohol By Volume

ElectricSteve writes "Most of the world's beer has between 4% and 6% alcohol by volume (ABV). The strength of beer achieved by traditional fermentation brewing methods has limits, but a well-crafted beer that is repeatedly 'freeze distilled' can achieve exquisite qualities and much higher alcohol concentrations. An escalation in the use of this relatively new methodology over the last 12 months has seen man's favorite beverage suddenly move into the 40+% ABV realm of spirits such as gin, rum, brandy, whiskey, and vodka, creating a new category of extreme beer. The world's strongest beer was 27% ABV, but amidst an informal contest to claim the title of the world's strongest beer, the top beer has jumped in strength dramatically. This week Gizmag spoke to the brewers at the center of the escalating competition. New contestants are gathering, and the race is now on to break 50% alcohol by volume."

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  1. But what about taste? by cavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If this tastes like crap, then no one will buy it... well, except for frat boys and the local street people.

    1. Re:But what about taste? by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow. Who knew Jeff Foxworthy had a slashdot account!

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    2. Re:But what about taste? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Back in my university days, I made homebrew in residence to save money. Then I taught the other guys on my floor how to make it, and loaned them my equipment, leading to a peak production of 70 dozen beer per week on our floor. You wanna bet the women liked partying on OUR floor. :)

      Personally, I don't think you can call what these guys are making beer.

      Soaking it in whiskey barrels, for example... cheating. People buy those barrels and fill them with water, then let the alcohol soak out of them and drink it... they call it swish. Not just adding "flavour" with those barrels.

      Using fractional freezing techniques to make it stronger is about as novel as leaving your apple cider out in the snow and separating the frozen stuff out. Personally, I wouldn't call it "beer" either after it's been treated this way.

      I can see why it's expensive though. Each time you freeze and filter it, the concentration of alcohol in the frozen material increases, until you're just throwing away alcohol and not concentrating it at all. So, making one of those super strong ice hardened beers involves a large amount of waste, assuming you're not taking the "ice" and firing it into a conventional still to recover the loss.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_freezing

      We're getting ready to do it ourselves here at home, because operating a still is illegal, but freezing your wine isn't. We're using champagne yeast, apple juice, grape juice, blackberry juice, blueberry juice, dextrose and honey.

      I almost broke the world record for strongest beer back the 80s... did my junior high school science fair project on brewing, and made an IPA that was 11.5% at a time when the record was 12%. Wish I'd been allowed to drink it :P

      I should make a beer using starch as an adsorbent. Call it Beershine or something.

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  2. erm ... by Stooshie · · Score: 4, Informative

    We have had distilled beer in Scotland for years now. We call it, erm let me think ... oh yes, whisky!

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    1. Re:erm ... by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was about to say the same things - once you distill it, it's no longer beer.

  3. Hooch by BrokenHalo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Beer at 50% ABV is called whisky.

  4. More Alcohol and Less Drinking? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like beer. I like drinking beer. I like drinking a variety of beers. I don't like being falling down drunk. This race for higher alcohol content seems pointless and just limits the amount you can enjoy in one sitting.

    1. Re:More Alcohol and Less Drinking? by HopefulIntern · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. I was saddened when I came back to my home country of Norway a few years ago to discover no shops sells so-called "light beers" anymore. (For you Americans, a light beer in Europe means lower alcohol, about 1-2%, not fewer calories). I always enjoyed these beers because I could pound one when I came home from work and it would be delicious without giving me any impairment. (Before anyone mentions alcohol free beer, I have tried many and never liked them.)

      This seems strange to me, making beer so strong. What are they trying to achieve with this? A 50% beer means you can only have a few measures of it before you will get sick. Where is the enjoyment? A pint of cold, crisp draught surely beats a shot of this stuff?

    2. Re:More Alcohol and Less Drinking? by gsslay · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. The quality and enjoyability of the beer is not determined by the percentage of alcohol. If this kind of mindless "mines bigger than yours" appeals to you then why not buy a bottle of 100% distilled medical alcohol and pour it straight down your throat?

      Woohoo! It's a hundred percent! You can't get bigger! You win! Now bring over the stomach pumps.

      The same macho BS that goes on about curry strengths. People competitively eat the strongest curry they can get hold off, to the point of it knocking your taste buds into a coma. Well done. Now you can't taste anything and you're oozing curry paste from every duct and pore you possess. You win.

    3. Re:More Alcohol and Less Drinking? by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This seems strange to me, making beer so strong. What are they trying to achieve with this? A 50% beer means you can only have a few measures of it before you will get sick. Where is the enjoyment? A pint of cold, crisp draught surely beats a shot of this stuff?

      It's the same reason some people wait half a day, then strap themselves into a jet powered bomb on wheels to do a quarter mile really really fast.
      It's not the most practical or the most comfortable way of traveling... but I guess it's just really really cool.

      I can completely understand why they make this beer.

      However, I would not understand why someone would drink more than a shot glass of it though. I fully agree that there are few (perhaps none at all) drinks that are better than a simple cold normal beer. And the best part of a simple cold normal beer is that you can have more than one. Yay.

  5. Re:Is this really beer by Verdatum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you freeze distill it, then it stops being beer in my book. If you freeze distill hard cider, it's not "extreme cider", it's friggin' applejack.

  6. As a brewer by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a brewer, distillation offends my sensibilities if you keep calling it beer.

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  7. Re:Is this really beer by archmcd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wrong. This is not beer, this is a distilled beverage. This technique isn't new, and the method of distillation is the only thing that makes this product distinct from traditional whiskey.

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  8. Re:George Thorogood by oodaloop · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everybody funny. Now you funny too.

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  9. Re:Is this really beer by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's whisky. Just because it's distilled by freezing instead of heating the principle is the same hence the term 'distilling'. Temperature differences are being used to remove water.

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  10. Re:Methanol by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Funny

    One problem with freeze distillation is that it doesn't get rid of methanol. How are they getting around this problem?

    Putting "Not for human consumption" on the bottles?

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  11. The article is a bit off by Anon-Admin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeast limits the fermentation of sugars to alcohol. Once you get up around 17% to 20% ABV the yeast begin to die off. This is the natural limit of alcohol in beer. To distill the beer and increase the alcohol is to turn it into a distilled liquor and remove it from the realm of beer which is a fermented liquor.

    Through selective breading or genetic manipulation of the yeast we may some day get a yeast that can produce more than the 17% to 20% but that is not the case today.

    I found the article a bit misleading. If you distill it, it is a distilled liquor not a beer. This is like saying you made a beer from grapes, lol, it is not beer it is wine. lol

  12. Re:Is this really beer by hweimer · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you freeze distill it, then it stops being beer in my book.

    Same here, but unfortunately the EU has forced us here in Germany to lower our standards so that people may call it "beer" even if it hasn't been made according to the Reinheitsgebot. In fact, such beverages have been around for quite some time under the name Bierschnaps.

    Oh, and if you're interest in fancy drinks, you should try to get a Kehlenschneider. 80% ABV and 400,000 Scoville units. Which means you won't even notice the alcohol in it.

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  13. Re:Is this really beer by captainpanic · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's whisky. Just because it's distilled by freezing instead of heating the principle is the same hence the term 'distilling'. Temperature differences are being used to remove water.

    Distillation is a separation by difference in volatility (or vapor pressure). The more volatile component will be present in the vapor phase in a higher concentration than the other stuff when you boil the liquid.

    The process here is called crystallization, and has very little to do with distillation, except that it also is used in a separation. Also, there is no temperature difference - it's just cold. The temperature of the entire barrel of beer-like-booze will gradually drop, but there is no temperature difference like in a distillation process where the temperature of the boiling liquid differs from the condensing vapors.
    While you scoop out more ice, the temperature drops (as a function of alcohol content in the liquid). So, the liquid will cool down more over time... but there is no requirement to have a temperature difference unless you're afraid that the ice won't melt and go down the sink.

    Whiskey is the condensed gas phase of the beer and you throw away the liquid residue.
    In this process the good stuff never left the liquid phase. You throw away the ice.

    Anyway, we've entered a discussion where we disagree on definitions. I'll give you the point that this may not be beer, but it certainly isn't whiskey either.

    If you disagree with me on the distillation part, you can also change the text on wikipedia (types of distillation, subsection "other types", subsubsection "stuff that isn't really distillation").

    Freeze distillation is an analogous method of purification using freezing instead of evaporation. It is not truly distillation, but a recrystallization where the product is the mother liquor, and does not produce products equivalent to distillation. This process is used in the production of ice beer and ice wine to increase ethanol and sugar content, respectively. It is also used to produce applejack. Unlike distillation, freeze distillation concentrates poisonous congeners rather than removing them.

    ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillation#Other_types )

  14. Realistically, though... by sean.peters · · Score: 3, Informative
    ... there's practically no methanol produced in the process of fermentation. For it to be produced at all, there needs to be some pectin present, and that wouldn't normally be found in beer. A bigger problem is the presence of fusel alcohols. These higher order alcohols are removed to a greater or lesser degree during the process of heat distilling, but remain with the distillate in freeze distilling. They can add off flavors to the product, and some believe they are contributors to hangover symptoms, although some studies apparently dispute this.

    Methanol in Prohibition-era hootch was present as an adulterant - in other words, it was deliberately added to bathtub gin because it was cheap, and the producers didn't particularly care about their customers' health. Much like melamine was added to various Chinese products to make them appear more protein-rich.

  15. Re:Is this really beer by Elky+Elk · · Score: 4, Funny

    I didn't think Germans were still allowed to enforce 'purity laws'.