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The Genius of the Lego Printer

Barence writes "If you've ever struggled to build anything more complex than a cube of Lego, this will blow your mind. It's a fully functioning Lego printer, complete with felt tip print head."

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  1. Linux by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but is there a Linux driver?

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    1. Re:Linux by alannon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since OSX uses CUPS as its core printer driver system, I suspect it wouldn't be terribly difficult to make it run on Linux.

    2. Re:Linux by SkunkPussy · · Score: 2, Informative

      ye i can confirm he wrote a cups driver for it on his mac (old housemate)

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  2. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stop linking to websites that link to the actual fucking article: http://www.b3ta.com/links/Lego_printer

    Also, this is just a more advanced variation of a project included with the original Lego Mindstorms kit.

    P.S.: fucking Flash used for video again. Lame.

    1. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      so by your definition, some shitty forum post is the "actual fucking article" as opposed to say an actual article?

    2. Re:WTF by Endo13 · · Score: 3, Informative

      And sometimes there's some pretty good reasons for it. Like in this particular instance the article is a great read and perfectly fine to do so anywhere you please. The forums with the original post, on the other hand, not so much.

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    3. Re:WTF by Mr.+Roadkill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Also, this is just a more advanced variation of a project included with the original Lego Mindstorms kit.

      This kind of thing goes back WAY further than that.

      I've got a book from the mid-80's with a whole lot of C64 robotics projects in it, which features a lego pen plotter. The paper handling is more convenient - that project was a drum plotter - but otherwise, it's a variation on that basic design. In some ways it's both a step up and a step down from that project - this rasterizes everything, whereas the old C64 project could draw non-jaggy lines in any direction.

      I'd say the paper handling alone makes it a step up from the C64 project in terms of convenience and usability, though. Plus, any advancements over the Mindstorms project make it worthy of attention IMHO - it's great that we can all learn from other tinkerers.

  3. I want a 3D printer by jgagnon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That will take a CAD drawing and build me a Lego model from it. :p

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    1. Re:I want a 3D printer by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Search "Lego factory" on YouTube. I've seen one that builds Lego cars.

    2. Re:I want a 3D printer by g0bshiTe · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have one, it's called RepRap.

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  4. Sharpie would give more detail by sxedog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let's improve on this by adding a fine point marker! :)

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  5. Better than Anything HP Puts Out by hardburn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bet this is more reliable than any printer HP ever put out. I'm certain the cost of ink is cheaper.

    Love all the little minifigs scattered around the machine.

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    1. Re:Better than Anything HP Puts Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Somewhere, there are LaserJet IIs still printing.

      Not all HP printers are consumer grade junk.

    2. Re:Better than Anything HP Puts Out by kalpol · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm still using my 20-year-old LaserJet IIIsi.

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  6. Re:Ouch by obarel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You mean "it's 1,000 times cheaper than inkjet".

  7. Re:Lego Printer? by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought it printed LEGO creations from LEGO blocks.

    Y’know, your average 3D printer... but with LEGO bricks.

    That would be cool.

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  8. Creativity at its finest by adeft · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The little guys riding on it just top it off perfectly. I'm reminded of the rickety dumb erector set models I made as a kid with an instruction manual. :(

    1. Re:Creativity at its finest by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

      The little guys riding on it just top it off perfectly.

      Wonderful. Like angels on an illustrated manuscript.

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  9. Re:Ouch by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although he loses some street cred for not using Dogcow Especially since it was used for print dialogs.

    The image of the dogcow was used to show the orientation and color of the paper in Mac OS page setup dialog boxes. HCI engineer Annette Wagner made the decision to use the dog from the Cairo font as a starting point for the page graphic. Annette edited the original font and created a larger version with spots more suitable for demonstrating various printing options. The new dog graphic had a more bovine look, making it arguably less clear as to what animal it was intended to be, and after the print dialog was released the name "dogcow" came into use.

  10. Next steps by wickerprints · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Multiple colors via a pen carousel and switching mechanism.
    2. Support for plotting in addition to line-by-line output.
    3. Halftone dithering.

  11. No by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it ain't broke, DON'T fix it.

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    1. Re:No by tattood · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't get it.

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  12. It's not a printer by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, it is a pen plotter, not a printer. It's a technology that was very common in architectural and engineering offices until it rapidly died off 10 years ago for inkjets.

    I love the Lego figures going along for a ride.

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    1. Re:It's not a printer by poopdeville · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, it's not a plotter. Plotters are able to move the substrate back and forth underneath the pen. Combined with the left and right motion, a plotter can make a line in any direction on the substrate. "Plotters are restricted to line art," as your wikipedia link says. This can't even do line art. It must rasterize ("pixelize") an image before it can be printed.

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    2. Re:It's not a printer by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup. More like a 1-pin dot matrix printer. But oh-so-wonderful!

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  13. Re:Lego Printer? by omnichad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought it was a 3D printer that printed LEGO bricks themselves.

  14. Re:Technically... by mea37 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Plotters draw vectors. Based on the demo this is pretty clearly raster-based. Don't let the way it holds the ink fool you; it's a printer.

  15. Re:Lego Printer? by Zapotek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought it printed LEGO creations from LEGO blocks.

    Y’know, your average 3D printer... but with LEGO bricks.

    That would be cool.

    I love how a 3D printer is now referred to as "an average 3D printer [no big deal]".
    I'm stilled quite fascinated by that technology...

  16. Lego Lab by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2, Funny

    During my PhD work, we built some lab gear, for example an overhead shaker, from Lego Mindstorm gear. Pure nerd fun. Had to hide the stuff when the prof showed the lab to guests, though...

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  17. Re:I may be the only one by g0bshiTe · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, talk about Epic Fail. The summary even says "with felt tip print head".

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  18. Direct YouTube link by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative
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  20. Re:Cool but hardly genius. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I give it more credit for artistic value with the figures placed around than for the technical difficulties.

    I built a plotter capable of those drawings for my 2nd year engineering class using a few stepper motors, a bunch of paint stirrer sticks, epoxy and an AVR microcontroller.

    How many Lego blocks did you use?

  21. Not all plotters move the paper... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 2, Informative

    Analog plotters were at one time common items in engineering labs, as well as chemistry labs where they served as output devices for chromatographs, spectrometers, etc. HP pretty much owned the market, and they moved an overhead pen over a stationary sheet of paper, which was held down to the bed by an electrostatic charge. A typical unit shown here:

    http://www.teknetelectronics.com/Search.asp?p_ID=12956&pDo=DETAIL

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    1. Re:Not all plotters move the paper... by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Whether it moved the paper or the pen is relatively irrelevant. I think his main point was, plotters universally draw line art (moving the paper, or pen, in a fluid continuous movement along the path you are tracing)... vs. printers which rasterize their image (print dots of colour which merge together to form a complete image).

      Although this project rasterized the page (printing dots), it could have just as easily been designed to set the pen down and then do continuous line art... but you have much less software that’s capable of printing to a line art plotter as opposed to a regular raster image printer. That is most likely the reason for the dot-matrix print style that it used.

      This really isn’t that impressive. The main point that impresses me is that LEGO products are precision-built with such a quality as to be able to feed paper and move a pen to accurately position the dots and produce what looks like essentially a flawless page of print (albeit slightly low-res because of the relatively large size of the dots). We always knew that LEGO used top-quality materials with very, very small tolerances on the parts... this takes advantage of that and shows just how high their standards are.

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    2. Re:Not all plotters move the paper... by egcagrac0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The main point that impresses me is that LEGO products are precision-built with such a quality

      If they weren't precision-built, they wouldn't line up when you snap the pieces together.

      Erector sets allowed slop, because of the hole-hardware clearance. That goes away in Lego.

  22. Re:Disappointment by halivar · · Score: 4, Funny

    My only disappointment is that he used "special pieces." At least, I think a felt-tip and a rubber-band count as those.

  23. Make & program your own robots, William Clark by Mike+McTernan · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a similar lego plotter in this book: http://www.clarkonline.org/william/mapyor/index.html

    The book describes using some large lego wheels to form a drum around which the paper was attached, and how to form a small electro magnet around a bolt through a technic lego plate to pull the pen towards the drum. The pen itself was suspended between two lego axles on a butterfly pin. The whole magnet head assembly could pinion left and right using an improvised lego rotary counter to measure progress with a similar block to rotate the drum.

    I had the Sinclair Spectrum version of the book as a child and an IO box of relays. I never made the printer, but made lots of other devices.

    There's some inside pictures of the book here: http://www.hexapodrobot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=318

    A PDF of the book is here: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=2000479

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  24. Re:Technically... by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It’s a raster-based printer, which plots (yes) dots. Devices which print by plotting dots are simply called “printers”.

    Vs. a line plotter, which is what you are typically referring to when you say “plotter”: some of which are designed exactly like this, with carriages to move the paper and pen. Rather than plotting dots, though, they draw solid lines by moving the pen and/or the paper in solid, continuous movements (only lifting the pen when necessary to break the line and begin a new line somewhere else).

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  25. Re:Lego Printer? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For what it's worth, here's a video of a LEGO car printer made of LEGO bricks. It's not an arbitrary 3d printer, it just does cars, but you can choose the color of the car.

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  26. Re:Disappointment by langelgjm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, didn't some of the Technics kits come with different kinds of bands and wheels for them? So that's not too much of a stretch...

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  27. Google's own Larry Page Did It First... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember being awestruck seeing a picture of a Lego plotter machine many years ago. It turns out that it was build by Larry Page of Google fame.

    Here's a picture of it

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  28. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Lasers, on the other hand, are rather expensive up front but can run for miles on one tank

    Indeed!

    I own a color laser that I got second hand with at least 2 replacement sets of toner for $80. That was three years ago. I still haven't put any of the replacement toner in. I think it's going to last longer than every inkjet I've ever had put together.

    The ironic thing is that laser printers are good for people who print infrequently, as the toner doesn't "dry out" due to disuse like ink does. To top it off, ink cartridges are about $50, and toner is about $80.... for 5X the number of pages.

    There was a great deal a year ago on these network Lexmarks from PCConnection with high-cap toner installed. $150ish or so. I did the math for a buddy of mine who was looking for a printer at the time on how much the replacement toner would cost an so on.... He bought two of them instead :-D

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  29. Re:Cool, but... by SkunkPussy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i hate to say it but building a space station is nothing to boast about.millions of people (including me) made shite lego space stations as a child. on the other hand, desigining a lego printer, then designing a control mechanism to interface to a computer then designing your own printer driver has not been done by too many people.

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  30. Re:Cool, but... by socz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A lot of my friends and family laugh at my crazy ideas of using legos as solutions to problems. About 6 months ago I was starting to work on a lego pyramid to house a computer. My GF being thoughtful as she is, ended up buying me the Antec Skeleton case! So no pyramid for me - yet!

    But I agree with you, the inherent joy of playing with legos is slowly lost UNLESS you maintain your creativity with them. I've used them for so many random things that people can't help but laugh and then say "yeah, that worked out great" because they're so flexible. Sure my collection is now less than a shoe box and some parts don't quite fit very well together anymore, but it's faster and easier sometimes that getting tools out and cutting materials to size.

    Until recently, legos has served as my projector's adjustable base. It not only held the projector on the front of a rack, but also propped it up in place. Now because of where it's used I just built a rig to hold it in place on a shelf (that secures itself). Since I was working with tools already it didn't take much to build it (just a little thinking and measuring). But believe me, if that wasn't the case, the legos would still be under that projector!

    Worth mentioning, I always recommend people to buy legos for kids. They're some of the best things one can have to help develop many skills and thinking processes. I always refer to legos being the basis of becoming and engineer.

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  31. Genius Indeed! by dexomn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Office: "Hey whats the deal? Aren't you coming into work today?"

    You: "Yeah I'm running a little late, one of my printer guys broke a leg."

    Office: "What?"

    You: "The guys that pilot the lego airship I use to print documents... one of them broke a leg. In fact it snapped clean off and flew quite a ways."

    Office: "Maybe you should stay home today."

  32. I Blame Lego for decline in Mech Engineering by nukenerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sorry to be a wet blanket, but the fact that a generation or two of kids have been brought up on Lego is partly responsible for a decline (in the West at least) in people interested in engineering as a career, and in a general lack of public understanding (and even revulsion) at engineering.

    Lego was introduced as a constructional toy for model brick buildings. It replaced stuff like Bayko and Betta-Builder. With Betta-Builder (I may have that name wrong) you glued little bricks together with water-soluble glue; Lego was its less-messy replacement.

    The dominant mechanical construction toy of the time was Meccano which had an awsome arrray of components (machine-cut brass gears for example), far more than it has had in recent years. Meccano was true miniature mechanical engineering; you construct Meccano on the same principles as a full size project. I am a professional engineer and have seen Meccano used to demonstate real-life mechanical and structural engineering concepts; eg I know that some of the buffers you see at railway termini were first modelled with Meccano. A plotter-printer would be well within its stride.

    But somehow Lego went from a masonry toy to ousting Meccano as the leading constructional toy of any kind, with the introduction of rather crude and weak plastic shafts and gears. A Lego mechanism is not however representative of how you would design a mechanism for production.

    Lego is however colourful, has no sharp edges, is not made of nasty steel, and above all you cannot see any nuts and bolts - supposedly the greatest design gaffe of the modern age - OMG.