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7th Graders Find Large Cave On Mars
A newly discovered cave on Mars was found as the result of an interesting crowdsourcing project. As EMB Numbers writes, "CNET news reports that 'the science class from Evergreen Middle School in Cottonwood, Calif., found the opening while working on a research project with the Mars Space Flight Facility run out of Arizona State University in Tempe. ... The students examined more than 200 images of Mars taken with the Thermal Emission Imaging System (Themis), an instrument on NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter.' The only other similar opening near the volcano was found in 2007, when Glen Cushing, a scientist with the US Geological Survey, published a research paper on the surface anomalies. The opening is estimated to be 620 by 520 feet and the hole to be at least 380 feet deep."
I want to play martian cave man.
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I looked at the pictures, and it seems that they had a bug on the lens.
In all seriousness, though, I wonder how they can determine the depth of the hole, just from the surface characteristics?
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The opening is estimated to be 620 feet by 520 feet and the hole to be at least 380 feet deep. Wow! That beats even goatse!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
when i was in 7th grade my parents wouldnt even let me go to the pool by myself.. these kids today...with their ipods, their myspaces, and their spelunking visits to mars.. No Seriously, good job.
Apparently they want a closer look:
The students have submitted their site as a candidate for imaging by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. HiRISE can image the surface at about 30 centimeters (12 inches) per pixel, which may allow a look inside the hole in the ground.
With a resolution of 0.3 meters... I hope they share their results if they are able to get the site imaged.
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Kuato hid the oxygen generator?
When I was in grade 7 we learned about nothing even remotely as interesting as this. I think we looked at plant cells under a microscope.
It is pretty amazing that students can work with data like this, with computers and tools that enable it. Makes me wish I could go back to school and work on some of the stuff they teach in basic courses, particularly in high school.
Kids these days! (are damned lucky!)
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Hidin.
Nullius in verba
Here's a high-res picture of the cave interior
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Diametrically opposite to the face on mars.
Looks like someone was Soldering and started just NorthEast of this "cave".
Although the "Cave" looks like a "Hole" to me, still cover it with a UV filtering Geodesic Dome, pressurize it and I know where to drop the first colony.
Having some of that Water Ice, and CO2 Ice nearby wouldn't hurt either.
The landfill pit is already dug for them.
...until students start taking field trips to other planets, as seen on Spaceship Earth in Epcot Center.
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What's the difference between a cave and a hole? This looks like a hole to me.
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In my day, a fieldtrip consisted of nothing more than going outside -- in a field. The only caves we saw were the ones we had school in, and those were shared with the grizzly bears. If you've never seen your best friend's head get popped like a grape in the jaws of a grizzly, you've got it easy. It wasn't all bad though. Whenever we got a new transfer student, we'd convince them to yell into the cave really loud to "scare away the bats." Man, that was hilarious.
Anyway, yeah.. Mars.
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University students in Arizona are out kicking themselves in the butt for not seeing something that even 7th graders could find. One gold star next to the 7th graders on chart. One black eye for university students. And some say that legalizing pot will be a good thing.
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... and perhaps you can see Commander Draper and Friday in there.
Have gnu, will travel.
Opposite side of the planet as the face on Mars.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Ah, that's where all the water went....
Can you be the first to tell me what the fuck "crowd-sourcing" means?
Sounds like yet another bullshit "social media" marketing term to me. A politically-correct way of saying unpaid slavery, if you will.
'Daddy, can we roll the Lander into the cave? Read fast?'
'But Will-- Dr. Robinson is standing in the entrance!'
So instead of paying NASA scientist to do the work of pouring over images looking for possible signs of... well anything on Mars, they are just planning on turning the jobs in 7th graders school 'projects'. I don't know which one is worse. The fact that the budget cuts are this bad, or the fact that all those years of post-HS schooling and student loans these scientist did for all their education is mentally around the level of a 7th's grader in the eyes of the government.
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Just looking at the pictures one can plainly see a string of sharp edged depressions (or pits) having a shadow on the left rim. The circled area of this image is simply another one of those depressions which happens to be slightly smaller in diameter than the width of the shadow. It is therefore obvious that this is just another one of those depressions. In order to be a cave it would need to travel UNDERNEATH the ground.
unpaid slavery
...as opposed to, what...paid slavery?
slavery
...because these people are being forced to do it against their will. Speaking of will...
if you will
Well I won't! Is it still slavery?
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I liked Mars better in the old days, when we still expected to find green women or for an armada of alien ships to possibly be headed our way. A little hot-cold red rock with some dry craters isn't nearly as interesting.
Slavery is independent of compensation. Most slaves in the American south, for instance, were paid a daily wage. That's why, after many years of work, some of them could buy their freedom and become freemen.
Many of the early freemen helped create the Underground Railway, to help slaves escape. After all, the problem itself wasn't the compensation they received, which was actually quite good for the time, given that it included housing, food, and money. The problem was that they couldn't move between employers, or choose to not work, because of the state laws at the time.
And yes, this incident today is still a form of slavery. Children in our public schools do not have a choice about whether or not they want to attend. Attendance is compulsory throughout the US, as is partaking in school activities as dictated by the curriculum and teachers.
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That's no cave. That's the opening to the underground cannon the Martians used to fire their invasion cylinders at Earth during the opposition of the last years of the 19th century.
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I live near Cottonwood, and I never suspected they taught anything beyond logging, ranching and truck driving.
Great job, kids. I really have to reconsider Tehama County schools.
Wow.
One of them hopefully knows something about web design and can do better than this
I'm just floored.. A whole 'nother planet, hundreds of miles away in deep space, and they have HOLES too!!!
I usually stay away from trolls, but.. are you really suggesting that American education is akin to slavery?
I wonder what an 18th century slave in the American south would think of that comparison..
How about jury duty, is that also slavery? I'm sure all those people picking cotton were just thankful they didn't have to sit in a classroom or jury box all day. Imagine the horror.
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Just because previous versions of slavery were it worse doesn't change the definition.
If the bottom is level enough (or could be made level) then put a semi-transparent dome over the top and--tada!--instant shielded base.
You are talking about Naica, an impressive cave with no life conditions. A friend of mine was a producer for all the documentaries made a couple of years ago.
http://www.naica.com.mx/english/index.htm
The secret Martian cave from which I was going to launch my plot to take over the Earth has been discovered! My plans are foiled! And I would have gotten away with it, if not for these meddling kids!
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is clearly that Miss Frizzel and her magic school bus.
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Ahem. That's SHASTA County schools. Unless they're on the wrong side of Cottonwood Creek.
-- old Redding boy
Actually I retract that correction. Evergreen is indeed on the wrong side of the creek. Shasta Co. has some catching up to do, clearly...
It's one of those launching pads for flying sourcers. They just forgot to put a cover on this one, or perhaps the capping mechanism jammed.
Am I the only one wondering about the series of craters, all lined up almost perfectly ? How the hell did that happen ?