Slashdot Mirror
Porn Industry Ready To Drop Flash
An anonymous reader writes "Here's an interesting new angle to the ongoing Flash-HTML5 debate. Digital Playground, one of the major adult film studios, said it would drop Flash today if all browsers were HTML5-ready (*cough*, IE8, *cough*). The company's founder said, 'Flash brings everything to a crawl and has an impact on battery life. With HTML5, there is no reason to show our content in Flash.' Digital Playground also indicated that it does not expect 3-D to gain mass acceptance any time soon."
[insert stupid flash pun]
untill you can get all workplaces to upgrade their browsers, the porn industry is never gonna drop flash
READ: "We realise the iPhone market is massive and we want iPr0n portable"
So Flash really is almost dead and 3D really is a just gimmick. Now this doesn't seem like such a shitty Monday.
Why would 3D gain faster acceptance? Who wouldn't want tits to basically jump out of your screen and nearly hit you in the face?
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
Yeah, everyone seems to be ready to drop flash for video playback, but what codec will their videos be encoded with?
As it stands today:
- Use h264 and all firefox users will be left off
- use theora and almost everyone will be left off
- use VP8 and most browsers won't support it
- use X and Y browser will not support it.
use flash and... 99% browsers will support it. Having said that, I hate flash, but I guess the world is not ready for HTML5 just yet, mainly because of the codecs issue.
Lets hope VP8 is a success! :-)
What the batteries are for...?
That the iPad would revolutionize online porn as we know it.
Also, it wipes clean with a damp cloth.
f u cn rd ths u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgmng
Wikipedia says this company is pretty influential in the porn industry, though not the only player. I suppose it's sort-of interesting to hear what he thinks. Though there's no real meat to the article, it's almost like an anti-Flash astro-turf.
I think all content producers are generally looking forward to moving to HTML5 video. That doesn't mean that Flash is dead. It could potentially mean that in 3-5 years Flash will not be used for video. Right now, Flash is pretty much the only option. In a year or two, HTML5 video will be a reasonable competitor. After that, well I guess it's up to Adobe to figure out ways of making their product more appealing than the baseline (which is HTML5). But they have a dominant position now, support of major players, and seem committed to improving their product. It's hard to discount them on the word of one porn producer.
It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
the two minutes of battery life that my N900 can run flash for have so far proven sufficient.
Seriously, this is just nonsese.
1. Digital Playground are nobodies in the online porn market. Yes, they produce a lot of content, but it's all for the DVD market.
2. One studio saying something isn't representative of an entire industry. It's actually called a 'Press Release'
3. The vast majority of adult sites allow you to pick your poison in terms of video. Streaming is normally done via flash [.x/h264 mp4 being the norm], and allowing downloads in AVI/DivX/WMV/MPEG formats.
4. What porn does provide is a solid statistics cross-section of internet users - and from the figures I see, flash usage is 96% or higher. The vast majority of purchasing users aren't high tech, they don't use noscript, they don't think flash is evil.
5. Porn (and any commercial) sites aim to make their sites as available to as many people as possible. Forcing users to upgrade browsers, attempting to change browsing habits, etc, is only going to lower the bottom line.
I work in the Adult Industry on a Content Management System for paysites. We just demonstrated support for the iPad at the recent Xbiz show using H.264.
It's fine and dandy that one company has proclaimed that they'd get rid of Flash given the chance. That doesn't say much for the rest of the industry, now, does it?
I know there are a lot of Open Source Advocates on Slashdot, but let's face it: Paysite operators are in the game to maximize their profits. This is done by:
a) Reaching as many people and devices as possible.
b) Decreasing bandwidth
c) Minimizing disk space and hardware.
They don't care about the war between WebM and H.264. They only care about having their sites work with as many people as possible. In this case, HTML5 brings iPad support to their sites.
The problem here ultimately is that the codec war with HTML5 is still undecided. If you're going to use HTML5's video element exclusively, you're going to end up being FORCED to use two formats of video for all the browsers - one for WebM and one for H.264.
That's all well and good, but multiple formats takes up space. Granted a lot of pay sites offer multiple download options like WMV, DivX and Quicktime, but when it comes to watching a full movie in a browser, only one format is needed here - H.264. Let the browsers that support H.264 use the video tag. Let browsers that don't use a Flash player backup.
This still won't change after WebM has support within Flash because of the iPhone and iPad. As the mobile arena heats up, WebM will start to appear lacking without Apple support. Even though the iPhone is a small percentage of the total phone market, it says a lot when the CEO has one and wants his websites to work on it.
So in sum - flash isn't going anywhere. It will remain as a backup player for 5 years mininum.
/^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
Hopefully never, at least fully. I'd much prefer real, natural-looking girls to the cosmetic surgery-enhanced freaks that some of the porn stars have turned into today, and would be very disappointed to see it turn into a bunch of Sims-style "animated" bullshit.
Spot on. Start-ups are already advertising for girls for iPhone 4 FaceTime video sex chat services. From a Craigslist ad:
Many porn sites are already iPad ready. I've heard (cough cough) that the experience is much better.
http://youporn.com/
http://pornhub.com/
http://extremetube.com/
A big part of this is how cheap and easy it is to do HTML5+H.264 video. The video editing tools all have H.264 encoders, including batch encoding at least in Final Cut, and a standalone encoder is $29. Of course any HTML coder can learn the video tag. Flash is unreasonably complicated by comparison and also $599 a seat.
Because instead of having a Turing-capable, complete independent virtual machine sitting in a browser just to look at a few pictures, I can just have a "link" to a bog-standard video that plays just like the old "embed" tags for a standardised video codec that people can include direct in the browser. Instead of the security nightmare of constant Flash updates, forced toolbar installations, breakage of old Flash sites just because you upgrade to new Flash versions, integration with webcams, microphones and other shit I can just have: a "video" tag that specifies... well.. the URL of a video, that any player *I* choose can integrate with my web browser and play.
It also doesn't slow to a dead crawl just because you load up a couple of sites that have video on them because everything is fighting to run its own code to show a "play" button on top of the video in a fancy 3D, alpha-blended, anti-aliased, sound-effect generated way. Basically, it makes everything simpler, like back in the day when you could just say "embed this MIDI" (although that was a hideous disaster, admittedly) and stops relying on the need for a non-portable, third-party, closed source plugin that spends 90% of its time NOT showing video.
Sure, but then all your porn is in 30-second out takes, which leaves little room for clever dialog, plot development, character development, or artistic camera work!
Wait... am I the only one that actually watches these movies all the way to the end?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I don't care if I sound like a troll: Fuck Avatar.
Not sure if you realize but amateur porn has taken off quite a bit, they're as real as you can get, actual couples having sex in loving relationships (but of course they are still voyeurous and adventurous for letting you watch). It's far better than the shit the pro's have, and with easier access to higher quality cameras it's getting even better in quality.
What scares the producers is that people release it for free, for the love of sharing it so expect more and more in the future as attitudes are more relaxed and accepted.
If your neighbours roof is flying past your window, you know it's cyclone season.