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Grigory Perelman Turns Down $1M Millennium Prize

Kleiba writes "After turning down the prestigious Field Medal in 2006 for his contributions to mathematics, the reclusive Russian mathematician Grigory Perelman announced yesterday that he is rejecting a $1 million Millennium Prize from the Clay Mathematics Institute for solving the Poincare conjecture."

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  1. Why by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, and do you know why? Because this guy believes that most advancements in science are cooperative efforts, and that recognizing individuals for merely putting the last piece in the jigsaw puzzle is intellectually dishonest: It devalues the work of everyone else who contributed.

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    1. Re:Why by iamhassi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "recognizing individuals for merely putting the last piece in the jigsaw puzzle is intellectually dishonest: It devalues the work of everyone else who contributed."

      He's got a good point, so why doesn't he take the money and pay all those he believes should be paid for their contribution? Perelman says his contribution is no greater than Richard Hamilton's who first suggested a pathway toward the solution. Why not give the money to him or scores of other great mathematicians?

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    2. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      He could just accept in and donate it to charity.

      The money already belongs to a charity.

    3. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This reminds me of people being accused of mental unstability for being republican under a monarchy, pro-western under Soviet communism, atheist under a theocracy, religious among atheists, and so it goes on.

      My training is mathematics. I don't have this guy's brain, but I sure hope that if, by some chance, I discover anything remotely as interesting as he has, I'll not sell out either. If every bright man did it for enjoyment of his discipline, life would be glorious.

    4. Re:Why by Crazy+Taco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because this guy believes that most advancements in science are cooperative efforts, and that recognizing individuals for merely putting the last piece in the jigsaw puzzle is intellectually dishonest: It devalues the work of everyone else who contributed.

      Cooperative efforts yes, but I disagree with the rest of your statement. The person who puts the last piece of the jigsaw puzzle together is the one who makes the work the rest did useful. So another guy pointed out the pathway? Yes, but he didn't solve the problem. His contributions may have been valuable, and he should be credited for what he did do, but starting something is not the same as finishing something. Starting something is not worth 1 million. Finishing something revolutionary is. Finding the answer that others, including the starter could not, is what make his work worth 1 million. And it doesn't devalue the work of those who's work he built on. It doesn't say they did nothing. It accurately values their contributions as good, but values his as the more revolutionary contribution, which it was.

      As the Clay institute even points out in the article, every mathematician follows in the work of others. Everyone does that. There's nothing to reward there. What not everyone does is tie all the pieces together into a revolutionary advance. THAT's why they want to award Perleman 1 million dollars and that's why they think he should accept it. And I agree, he should take the money as it is not a gift, but rather an earned reward for the hard, revolutionary work that he did.

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    5. Re:Why by unr3a1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's pretty clear that the man is very humble and selfless. Since when is being these things considered to be abnormal? He should be honored and respected for his actions, not called abnormal.

    6. Re:Why by quadelirus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I thought it was because he was angry with some well known profs who he had talked to about his proof method and they had pretty much shut him out when he was a grad student or postdoc or something, and that because these awards are for leaders of the mathematical community, and he feels ostracized by the community, he won't participate.

      That said, the dude is being supported by his mother--last I checked--which, if true, in my mind means he ought to take the money and give it to his mom if he doesn't want it.

    7. Re:Why by Peach+Rings · · Score: 4, Insightful

      By turning down the prize he brings wide attention to the issue, which could actually change the situation.

    8. Re:Why by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 5, Informative

      Given the kind of money math researchers at the university level make, redistributing it to everyone who's contributed to his win would be donating it to charity.

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    9. Re:Why by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      which could actually change the situation.

      lol. no.

      He'll be labeled an "eccentric genius" (aka kook) and the world will go on as before. Where've you been?

       

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    10. Re:Why by jlp2097 · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should be honored and respected for his actions, not called abnormal.

      Yeah we should give him a prize or sth. Oh, wait...

    11. Re:Why by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And you know what? It's his right to do any of those things. Just because people want to make him a celebrity doesn't mean that he shares their plans. Maybe he doesn't care about being famous, maybe he cares for his mother, maybe he likes long times of quiet contemplation in which to think, rather than the incessant rat race din that accompanies pretty much any other mode of life?

      You know what? Maybe he's not the one with issues. Maybe we are.

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    12. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If many steps are taken to solve a problem, all by different people, there is no reason that the final step was necessarily the most difficult.

      Perhaps whoever made the first step could have also made the last step if he'd had the intermediate steps to build on. Or if he'd had the first step to build on, while he was still young.

  2. A true mathmetician by Pojut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There aren't too many of 'em left out there. I wouldn't be surprised if he had requested his name to be withheld from being publicly acknowledged.

    1. Re:A true mathmetician by Pojut · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, no...I was referring to someone who does math with the intent on solving problems, not gaining recognition.

  3. Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Didn't he reject the award repeatedly, over the past few years, every time he was asked? Why are people still annoying the poor guy?

    1. Re:Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      he's got 99 problems but the poincare conjecture aint one

    2. Re:Again? by quadelirus · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. Multiple awards. Field medal first, now millennium prize.

  4. he did it because by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    he thinks he doesn't deserve the lion's share of the prize because there were others who contributed to his (their) achievement

    the man has principles, that's for sure

    all of our work, whatever we do, whether science, math, movies, music... we all stand on the shoulders of those who came before us, or on the shoulders of those working right next to us. often recognition for making a contribution is just a matter of luck, of being the one who accumulates the most media coverage for being at the tipping point when there was a tipping point to be had (as if anyone knows where or when the tipping points lie)

    not that i'm denigrating grigory's contributions. HE is denigrating his own contributions. a genuinely humble man, even in the face of a cool million. he's more of an ascetic than i could ever be. he's married to his intellectual pursuits, he's foregone earthly indulgences because they will just get in the way of all he cares about doing. he knows that the money will ruin his mental discipline. locking himself in a room with his mind out of genuine intellectual passion

    i admire him, i could never do that. i like the earthly indulgences too much

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    1. Re:he did it because by emudoug42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      yeah, earthly indulgences are wicked sweet. You could buy a lot of waffle mix with one million dollars. about 592,000 lbs of waffle mix.

  5. Re:Aid Society! by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was under the impression that he publicly stated why he wouldnt accept the money, and it was basically:

    "If I had that money then I would feel compelled to use it to do good charitable things, but what I really want to with my life is more math and as such, that money would be a burden"

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  6. Millennium, not Millenium. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Millennium. Two Ns. From Latin "mille", thousand, and "annus", year. A thousand years.
    If you write it with only one N, it would be derived from mille and anus, which would be "a thousand assholes".

    1. Re:Millennium, not Millenium. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you write it with only one N, it would be derived from mille and anus, which would be "a thousand assholes".

      ...which, incidentally, is the prize for excellence in management.

  7. boo hoo... cry babies by Stumbles · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This gave me a chuckle;

    Carlson said. "But what he did is definitely not the way things are normally done."

    And the only reason they took him seriously was from past work. So in other words; if someone cracks an astounding math problem and they don't know you; they will ignore you because you did not "follow their procedures"; even though your work might be the basis for faster than light travel or some current science fiction technology. What a bunch of self absorbed petty cry babies. They remind me of the scientists in HHGTTG for hanging the guy that created the infinite improbability drive; simply because they didn't like a smart-ass.

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    1. Re:boo hoo... cry babies by Fnkmaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A bunch of people spent several years of their lives to validate that his solution was correct. The point is that those people wouldn't have bothered unless the source of the proposed solution was credible - because there are tons of crackpots who post all sorts of theories on the internet that aren't worth spending minutes let alone years of your life trying to validate or disprove.

  8. because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Taxes would be a bitch. It's better to not exchange money in the first place.

  9. Scholarship fund instead? by xirtam_work · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about they put the prize money into a scholarship fund. Surely he couldn't object to this. He could outline the type of benefactor he'd like to receive a stipend from time to time and leave the actual selection to a committee formed by associates of the Millennium Prize board.

  10. anything can be selfish by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    rejecting the money is selfish, accepting the money is selfish, giving it to his mom is selfish, keeping it from his mom is selfish, etc. it all depends upon the motivation

    all that i am saying is that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so therefore whatever his motivation for rejecting the money, his mother probably shares the same motivations in her personality. therefore it is likely that she would be happiest with him rejecting the money. giving the money to his mother may very well be the absolute worst thing in the world he could ever do to his mother

    so don't assume that your perspective is the only perspective that matters in situations like this, especially since you are not even in the situation. people are different, potentially very different from your own personality

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  11. He can now answer another famous question - by RevWaldo · · Score: 3, Funny

    "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?"

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  12. While we're all nitpicking... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Informative

    it's Field*s* Medal. Named after the Canadian mathematician, John Charles Fields.

    Not Field Medal.

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  13. Re:Jerk by oldhack · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shut up, twat.

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  14. Re:The least he should have done... by ACS+Solver · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Forget charity - if he doesn't want the award, he could give it to his mother. Perelman isn't just great at math, he's also a weird guy and a hermit. In his case, he's living with his elderly mother whose main source of income is her pension, which is not a lot in Russia. He's being offered more than enough money to cover his mother's living and medicine costs, it would be a very prudent thing to do.

  15. Perhaps a modest change to his M.O. would do - by RevWaldo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Narrator: Meanwhile, at the International Conference of Mathematics...

    (In a oak-walled conference room, about two dozen bearded and bespeckled men gathered around a long table, cluttered with papers, a large blackboard on the wall full of figures, cross-outs and erase marks. The man at the center of the table stands from his chair and wearily proclaims:)

    Conference Leader: Well, gentlemen, I fear a solution to the Riemann hypothesis eludes us once again...

    (Suddenly, a masked man bursts through the conference room doors.)

    All: It's the Lone Mathematician!

    LM: Gentlemen, I believe this is what you're looking for! (Slaps a paper on the desk. They all look down at it, then look up astonished)

    All: A solution to the Riemann hypothesis! BUT HOW!?

    CL (holding up the paper): So elegant and precise, and yet so simple! You're a man of true genius!

    LM: I'm merely standing on the shoulders of giants, gentlemen.

    (The Lone Mathematician gracefully leaps onto a nearby windowsill and steps out. They all run to the window and look down, seeing that he has jumped onto the back of a horse in the courtyard.)

    LM (riding off): Hi Ho Sliderule, Away!!

    CL: Who was that masked man? I wanted to thank him...

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  16. Mod parent insightful by fyoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah we should give him a prize or sth. Oh, wait...

    Has anyone tried presenting him with a simple bouquet of flowers?

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