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The Hobby of Energy Secretary Steven Chu

quanminoan writes "Nobel Laureate and US Secretary of Energy Steven Chu has continued to publish even while in federal office. While previous research topics include gravitational redshift, Chu has coauthored a paper entitled 'Subnanometre single-molecule localization registration and distance measurements' which discusses a way to optically image objects as small as 0.5 nm — a major step down from the previous limit of 10 nm. Chu does this in his free time, claiming 'I just consider it my equivalent of ... vegging out in front of the TV.'"

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  1. His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ouch, the feeling of terrible inadequacy, laziness and lack of accomplishment. :P

    1. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every year you age, it will get worse.

    2. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      I used to have a boss- every time I saw him, the thought went through my head, "you must have been washing your hair while this guy was reading papers." His hair was never combed straight and he wiped everyone's ass across the floor in every scientific staff meeting.

    3. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 funny

      I'd say that BO is proportional to intelligence, but I know it's probably just proportional to laziness...

    4. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Can he play the Chu Chu Boogie on lab instruments?

    5. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      Every year you age, it will get worse.

      I get this feeling every time I sit down to watch the World Cup and they mention 20 year old Thomas Muller. Gah! 20! What the hell have I done with my 22 years?

    6. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by lordmetroid · · Score: 1

      When I came to realize that I do not find any pleasure in some things, I stopped caring that I was rather enjoying everyday pleasures such as watching entertainment, surfing the internet, writing on /. and other discussions fora and playing games instead of working on the something to make humanity better.

    7. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by outsider007 · · Score: 1

      I hope he still has time to make more soccer/kung fu movies

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    8. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Unless......you stop watching TV so much and start doing something. The choice is yours.

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    9. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by anilg · · Score: 1

      This story reminded me of the excellent Onion piece on Bush Jr.'s work in fermilab.
      http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-finds-error-in-fermilab-calculations,1463/

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    10. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by PietjeJantje · · Score: 1

      Ouch, the feeling of terrible inadequacy, laziness and lack of accomplishment. :P

      My father was a scientist. He had a big production, over 100 papers. During evenings and weekends, he often retired to his study to work on these papers. Subject bubbled up and down as his interest floated from one to another, and sometimes they got to the surface, ready to get published.

      After many years I realized I'm operating in the same mode. I develop software. I have various open source and other software projects running, like bubbles waiting to get to the surface. I think a lot of people have a thing like this. It doesn't matter whether it is in science, software or arts.

    11. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by mcvos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I recently read an article that pointed out that the best geniuses are terribly lazy. You don't invent an easier way of doing something when you're okay with doing all the old-fashioned hard work. The wheel wasn't invented by someone who thought it was normal to carry heavy loads on his back.

    12. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It has to be a special kind of laziness, though, or laziness combined with severe environmental limitations.

      The wheel wasn't invented by the guy willing to carry loads the hard way; but while he was busy sweating over wheel prototypes, his even lazier counterpart was fanning himself in the shade while his slaves carried the heavy loads....

      In this case, Chu is the US Secretary of Energy. That almost certainly means a base salary in the 100k+ range. Not "rich beyond the dreams of avarice"; but not a position where need makes innovation the lazier approach than work.

    13. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Fast+Thick+Pants · · Score: 1
    14. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could just... do your homework with the TV on. It's not that distracting, and you learn math by reading and doing anyway. (That is, even if you get distracted, you can jump right back in just by reading the last few lines, and come out better than somebody who did it without distractions)

    15. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you could say that your ego bit off more than it could Chu. Yeaaaaaaaah.

    16. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just get in the Starcraft 2 beta....everything will be fine then.

    17. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by captainpanic · · Score: 1

      Ouch, the feeling of terrible inadequacy, laziness and lack of accomplishment. :P

      His equivalent of TV is publishing papers... and staying in touch with the entire scientific world - something which cannot be said about most other politicians. I hope that therefore it's less likely that Chu gets brainwashed by lobbyists.

      And on a side note, many people don't just hang in front of the TV in their free time. I for one read slashdot to get my dose of science :-)

  2. Easier to get published by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When you're a cabinet member, it's probably easier to get published in Nature. Even when your paper is pure theoretical wanking rather than actual application of the amazing ideas you dreamed up.

    1. Re:Easier to get published by blackraven14250 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Theoretical principles come before implementation.

    2. Re:Easier to get published by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He is a Nobel Laureate. If that does not help him out then the extra boost for being a cabinet secretary is probably not going to be much extra help. Oh, and get a grip, wanker.

    3. Re:Easier to get published by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, and get a grip, wanker.

      I think that's pretty much the definition of a wanker.

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    4. Re:Easier to get published by seekertom · · Score: 1

      is o'bama a nobel laureate? if so, then his 'work' on the US probably was in progress long before he became prez? thanks fer lis'nin' seekertom

  3. bill richardsons hobby by ifeelswine · · Score: 5, Funny

    was doing fred flintstone impersonations

    1. Re:bill richardsons hobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was Elena Kagan's hobby.

  4. Right Wing and Moores Law by OldSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two comments...

    a) how long before right wing pundits claim that this is proof Chu isn't doing the job he was hired for?
    b) is this viewing technique applicable in reverse for microchip optical etching/lithography?

    1. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      b) is this viewing technique applicable in reverse for microchip optical etching/lithography?

      ...and does the US Government now own it?

    2. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a) how long before right wing pundits claim that this is proof Chu isn't doing the job he was hired for?

      Well I think we just saw how long it takes for someone to politicise this.

      Pot, meet kettle.

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    3. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bingo, as a "rightwing nut" I couldn't care as long as he does his job when he's supposed to.

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    4. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

      Hobbies are for pinko socialists!

    5. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bingo, as a "rightwing nut" I couldn't care as long as he does his job when he's supposed to.

      That disqualifies you from being a "nut" - at least in this area.
      Now if you want to lay claim to believing Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret muslim terrorist, you can have that title back.

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    6. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Improv · · Score: 1

      Would be amusing to have people worrying that the Chinese even own positions in our government now :P

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    7. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, actually, you are not a "rightwing nut," unless you are both 'rightwing,' and a 'nut' -- not one or the other. "Nutjob rightwinger" might imply a relation between the two, but the opposite order does not.

      Also, you seem to lack understanding of what pundit actually means. A pundit isn't necessarily a nut; a pundit is a public figure, a real person, so the GP's accusation of political insinuation is off the mark.

    8. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      That would be perfect because everything produced by the govornment is in the public domain.

    9. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      What we have here seems to be a fine example of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

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    10. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      No, its a terrible example because of the kenyan modifier.

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    11. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 nanosecond

    12. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know I am walking into your trap - but I know from my own personal career as an engineer that I have sought outside diversions (consulting, projects etc..) when I have had jobs where I was:

      a. Bored into oblivion / no challenges
      b. Couldn't get anything done at work because of process (one job I had as a government contractor)
      c. Felt my skills would wither and die if I did not actively pursue them myself

      So definitely I look at this as evidence of someone who is preparing for when this job is just a bad memory

    13. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 1

      and I'll add that when I have jobs that I find challenging, rewarding, interesting etc.. I have NO time or desire for outside distractions - just an observation from a proclaimed "Right Winger"

    14. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Speaking as a DOE contractor and a fairly liberal guy, I can say... Crap. Not much of anything. I'm wondering if Obama, should he get a second term, will experience the typical attrition of cabinet members.

      And hoping, in at least one case, he will.

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    15. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats nice. GP was asking how long before someone with a megaphone politicizes it. GP is just an asshole posting on a blog, he's not Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Beck, Palin...

    16. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by thoughtsatthemoment · · Score: 1

      No multi-tasking for you too?

    17. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and so is science for that matter!

    18. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by EdIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obama was born in Kenya

      I. Don't. Fucking. Care.

      Quite seriously, why is that even important?

      I think a requirement that you have been a citizen, naturalized or not, for at least 15-20 years is reasonable. That would indicate you at least have some understanding of our culture and experience. There is already an age requirement, for pretty much the same reasons. That way, the unwashed masses could not get psychotic and vote in some barely 20 something American Idol finalist.

      Having to be born within some geographic boundaries as a serious consideration on whether or not I want you as my President? Ridiculous.... It is not much different than having to establish nobility on both sides for 5 generations. Way too much like a birthright to me. Why not call it something like Rule by Divine GPS Coordinates?

      We are all immigrants in this land, or children of immigrants. To grant a birthright, IMO, goes against what I consider being an American is. The idea is that WE get to elect our President. Why should our choice be limited on such an irrational basis? No felons? Makes sense. No children, or person under the age of 35? Sure, we want somebody mature. Purple? Uhhhh, what?

      I really could care less if Obama turned out to have been somewhere else on this planet. Saying he is secretly a fundamentalist Islamic Terrorist under Deep Cover is just CRAZY. No other words for it.

      What I am more concerned with is his piss poor performance so far as a President. Change never occurred, and things are really getting worse. Especially our rights, ACTA, Medical reform, reigning in Wall Street, ridiculous bail outs, etc. The last thing I care about right now is that he was allegedly born in Kenya.

    19. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by bkeahl · · Score: 1

      Oh, he's as qualified as anyone else in the administration.

    20. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by EdIII · · Score: 1

      I know it is bad form to reply to your own post, but I felt this was necessary to say, and you can mod this into oblivion if you want....

      Obama has not performed well, IMO, or represented MY interests. However, I do believe that wants what is best for America.

      To contrast that with Bush.... If there was somebody acting as a secret agent for another country trying to subvert and destroy America, Bush could have given the man lessons.

    21. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by the+gnat · · Score: 1

      That would be perfect because everything produced by the govornment is in the public domain.

      Not even close. The AC who replied covered some of the major points, but it's pretty complex. Basically, the Bayh-Dole act (passed in 1982, I think) allows a great degree of latitude in commercialization of research done with government funding - the idea being to encourage economic development AND turn raw technologies into useful consumer products ("consumer" used in the broadest possible sense, since these technologies could become anything from specialty laboratory instruments costing $500,000 to OTC medications). How this is actually interpreted varies in practice, but the general consensus (as far as I can tell) is that it's an imperfect system but no one can think of a better alternative.

      I actually work for the DOE writing software, and none of what I do is "public domain". Some of it is Free Software (BSD-ish license), the rest is free-as-in-beer for academics, and companies have to pay (they get the code too, but can't redistribute it). This is a pretty typical arrangement (in our case, the rules are dictated more by the funding source, which is the NIH). A large part of the reason for this is that the licensing revenues help pay for the research - I'm sure as f*** not getting rich off this. I'd be happier if it was all Free Software, but mostly because I think it would make my job easier and get more people to use our software. Compared to many of the other licensing arrangements that scientists invent for government-funded research, ours is pretty reasonable. The NIH is starting to get stricter about what they allow - some funding specifically requires that the source code be made available, and programs need to be free for academics. But public domain (or Free Software, which I think you're confusing it with) has never been a requirement.

    22. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by EdIII · · Score: 1

      The wooooshh does not apply. That would mean I missed something, such as obvious sarcasm. I didn't.

      You replied to that poster indicating a "rightwing nutjob" might bring up the issue of Obama's place of birth. Politics aside, my question to you, the GP, and anyone else, is why we give any kind of serious consideration to the physical location of somebody's birth on this planet as a qualification for leading a democratic nation?

    23. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 1

      My current job is multitasking to the max ! Its one of those jobs that is so cool and fun you cannot believe you are getting paid to do it !

    24. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope. it mostly concerns signal processing, not an improvement in the actual optics.

    25. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by turing_m · · Score: 1

      In any job there is going to be some tedious stuff. During those times, even when away from work, don't you ever get ideas that just pop into your head (e.g. something cool might be possible if I do x,y, and z) and you just have to get the nearest back of an envelope and start designing? Usually that is more fun than doing the routine part of a once interesting job. During those times I think it's good to reward your muse and make a rough design there and then, otherwise you might lose the idea forever.

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    26. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having to be born within some geographic boundaries as a serious consideration on whether or not I want you as my President? Ridiculous.... It is not much different than having to establish nobility on both sides for 5 generations. Way too much like a birthright to me. Why not call it something like Rule by Divine GPS Coordinates?

      You're right, that would be silly.

      But the Constitution doesn't say anything of the kind. It says, "a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution."

      You do know that children born to Americans outside the US are still citizens, right? That pregnant American women overseas are not rushed home in a terrified panic lest their children be foreigners with no right of residence? There's this whole nifty procedure we've got for these scenarios. There's this form you fill out with the local US Embassy to register the birth so that there won't be any problems later on when your child needs to prove their citizenship and their birth certificate is in Farsi or Basque.

      It might seem like Rule by Map, but that's really only true when dealing with, say, a non-citizen immigrant family who had one child before immigrating and another after. In that circumstance, yes, the location of the birth made all the difference, and the map won. I think edge cases like that are an acceptable sacrifice to make in the name of preserving our jus soli rather than jus sanguinis system of citizenship.

      I think the natural-born thing was a pretty reasonable defense mechanism for a tiny, fledgling group of republics who had just fought off the suzerainty of a king who had never set foot there. A king, indeed, who ruled over a great many lands he'd never set foot in; one amongst many such. Seems like a pretty fool-proof way to ensure that your leader has a vested interest in your nation's welfare, and isn't simply a silver-tongued French provocateur, no?

      If you don't like it, lobby to have the Constitution amended. It's a legacy of a bygone era, certainly, but it's not as capricious or asinine as you suggest.

    27. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by oiron · · Score: 1

      Must make you a very interesting guy to be around...

    28. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 0, Troll

      Irrfuckingelevant.

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    29. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's not a "No True Scotsman" because he is refuting the claim that Mashiki is a nut, not claiming that "all real nuts do this". Mashiki is acting rationally. Therefore, he is not a nutcase and the statement doesn't apply to him. "Right-wing nut" does not mean "everyone with a conservative viewpoint", it means those that are far off the deep end. In other words, if I can have a rational discussion with you and you actually listen to my arguments and present well thought-out responses, you are not a right wing nut. If you respond to every argument by yelling "You Socialist Fascist Communist Pig! Real Americans believe in total independence and pledge allegiance to Glenn Beck every morning", then you are a right-wing nut and actually are demonstrating the No True Scotsman fallacy.

    30. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

      I'm a right-winger and everything I've seen Chu do while a cabinet member has made me say "Damn! I'm glad this guy has some sort of power".

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    31. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Now if you want to lay claim to believing Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret muslim terrorist, you can have that title back.

      I don't think that Obama being a Muslim terrorist is a secret. :D

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    32. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it's a little late for the mods to be up (probably all tucked in on the cot in mum's dark, dank basement) but this comment should be +5 informative / insightful. And it describes very well the reason why the Presidency is the only elected public office in this country requiring U.S. citizenship. Read and re-read the second-to-last paragraph. It makes sense in view of history. Oh, and too bad it's posted anonymously; it'd be nice to know who the poster was. . .

    33. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by dregs · · Score: 1

      The Current Austrlian Prime Minisiter was born in Wales, in a mining village.
      Most Australians can only wonder that a miners daughter from overseas, is now the Australian Leader.

    34. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) I don't care, I'm in Europe
      b) No, the Chu technique can not be used in reverse. Chu's technique is just basically a trivial step in deconvolution in the case where you have 2 colors instead of 1 (ie 2 dye molecules). I am personally not impressed at all from a scientific viewpoint. Sure he's probably a nice guy, but I don't see this technique as being really a major leap. It's a step forward, but similar to someone who develops a noise insensitive deconvolution method.. ya nice, but not really that amazing. Some techniques for super-resolution can be used als in lithography, such as STED. Now that's cool! PS I'm doing my MSc in STED so I might be biased :)

    35. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      No mods, it's not a troll. The guy has essentially picked a totally random point to take the conversation and did so with flame-throwers at max.
      What he did was the equivalent of jumping into a conversation about driving from point A to point B and get all excited about why cars have four wheels instead of three or six.

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    36. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by zemkai · · Score: 1
      Because it is explicitly stated in the Constitution as a requirement of office?

      Personally I haven't paid much attention to the whole 'where was he born' bit. But the requirement is there. If you don't like it, well hey, the document ALSO explains the process you can use to amend it.

    37. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by sco08y · · Score: 1

      That disqualifies you from being a "nut" - at least in this area.
      Now if you want to lay claim to believing Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret muslim terrorist, you can have that title back.

      Secret muslim terrorist? So you have to actually invent conspiracies to make the right sound nutty?

      The birthers are basically claiming that Obama's paperwork is screwed up. Similar claims were made about McCain, and investigated. The extent of this conspiracy is the belief that Obama falsified his paperwork and is lying. It would be a major scandal if it were true, but hardly earth-shattering.

      True insanity is liberal: the belief that 9/11 was an inside job. In 2006, [url=http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll]one third[/url] of Americans believed the truther lie, which is roughly equivalent to the number of self-identified liberals in America. Not only do they believe the government conspired to kill its own citizens, but they also believe it planted explosives to bring down a tower, fired a missile into the Pentagon and faked a crash landing. And it did all this with virtually no leaks. Sorry, but there's simply been *nothing* on the right in the last twenty years that even remotely compares to that.

    38. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Secret muslim terrorist? So you have to actually invent conspiracies to make the right sound nutty?

      Apparently I do not.

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    39. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by EdIII · · Score: 1

      I know why, being that it is the law, and that is part of the Constitution. What I am asking is what is the rational basis of why we should consider it when choosing our President? What bearing does it have in any way on his ability to perform? Why the exclusivity?

      I am neither a Republic, Democrat, TeaBagger, etc. What confounds me is when Obama's place of birth is thrown around like a weapon in an argument over politics. I just don't get why it would ever be important in the first place.

      In my mind it is just as silly as screaming at the top of your lungs that Obama eats Cherrios for breakfast instead of Fruit Loops.

    40. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by EdIII · · Score: 1

      The guy has essentially picked a totally random point to take the conversation

      1) It's not a random point of the conversation. You chose it, and it had some relevance to the main discussion.
      2) You imply I steered the direction of the conversation to something irrelevant, which cannot be true. It's not only relevant, but I only took your lead as far as the "direction" of the conversation was considered.

      and did so with flame-throwers at max.

      Somebody needs to calm down a little bit, because the only person that thinks flame-throwers were at max, or even on in the first place is you.

      What he did was the equivalent of jumping into a conversation about driving from point A to point B and get all excited about why cars have four wheels instead of three or six.

      Hardly. The conversation, that you started, was about "rightwing nutjobs" obsessing about the birth place of the current US President. You chose the direction from Point A to Point B. You accuse me of pedantry, while the fact remains that the birth place of the President is anything but pedantic. You're the one that brought it up, and I responded to it, how can it be pedantic?

      So you brought up the issue, specifically that "rightwing nutjobs" make it issue, and my response is still, "Who the fuck cares?".

      What I am interested in is, the response from you and others, as to the rational basis of why we should care at all. I am honestly astounded that you think it was flaming towards you at all, or anyone in fact. It was an open question directed towards everybody, absolutely relevant to the conversation.

    41. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Somebody needs to calm down a little bit, because the only person that thinks flame-throwers were at max, or even on in the first place is you.

      I. Don't. Fucking. Care

      You're the one that brought it up, and I responded to it, how can it be pedantic?

      Except I didn't bring it up - I brought up foolish obsession, you brought up tertiary issues with one specific obsession - forest and trees.

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    42. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The law requiring the president to be born in the US is a fail-safe to ensure that America's government is not run by a foreign country.
      It does not mean that there aren't any foreign born citizens that would be good at the job.
      It merely helps to prevent a conflict of interest.
      (Not that one still isn't possible, but it makes it less likely.)

      As for where Obama was born, I don't happen work at the government offices at his home town, so I kind of just have to take their word.

  5. Beats him whinging about Americans being spoiled by Scareduck · · Score: 0, Troll

    C.f..

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  6. Not too surprising by Weezul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are people around with amazing personalities, definitely not all top level academics are this dedicated, but they exist. Anyone who's done a PhD and postdoc(s) at top tier research universities will have spent time schmoozing with several.

    Obama got this guy largely because he asked. If a president doesn't get high level people, he's very likely got a reason he doesn't want them. Bush (cough)

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    1. Re:Not too surprising by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Someone can tell me if life has changed, but this is the way I recall authorship. The first author is ideally the person who did at least the broad development work(came up with the idea, worked out the general design, got funding) and hopefully wrote a rough draft of the paper. The second to n-1 author probably worked on the details and did the nitty gritty lab work, or equivalent. They probably expanded on the draft and created graphs to make almost a complete paper. The last author is often a high ranking administrator, often with great skill, that probably helped flesh out the original idea, helped overcome some problems, provided invaluable feedback on the paper, but is given authorship mostly because he or she runs the lab or is just nice to have on the paper.

      I don't want to minimize the contributions of Dr. Chu, he probably provided highly valuable technical assistance that allowed the success of the project. At that level, though, the value is the insight, not necessarily the day to day work. If I can cal someone like Dr. Chu to help me overcome a experimental issue, and he can help me out, that is value beyond a price tag.

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    2. Re:Not too surprising by GreekLawyer · · Score: 1

      Well the whole article and point is actually BS as a quick search in wikipedia reveals;

      Quote

      Beside his scientific career, Chu has also developed interest in various sports, including baseball, swimming and cycling. He taught himself tennis by reading a book in the eighth grade, and was a second-string substitute for the school team for three years. He also taught himself how to pole vaultusing bamboo poles obtained from the local carpet store.

      Unquote

  7. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How dare he be so honest? Doesn't he realize he is now too a politician?

  8. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by bunratty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, don't they know energy is always conserved? How could we ever run out?

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  9. which way is it? by jmichaelg · · Score: 1

    The gravity abstract says:

    ...gravity is a manifestation of space-time curvature..

    I thought it was the other way around, that is, gravity results in space-time curvature. How does matter warp space-time if it isn't using gravity (whatever that is) to do it?

    1. Re:which way is it? by BKX · · Score: 2, Informative

      An object's mass warps space-time. Gravity is the after-effect. (Of course there are issues with that theory but it's a good start.)

    2. Re:which way is it? by orangesquid · · Score: 1

      I believe it is generally understood that the presence of mass causes curvature of space-time around it, and the force of gravity that is exerted upon mass is due to space-time curvature. The universe can have a natural curvature (i.e., outside of curvature due to mass) that is not flat, as well, which predicts the final destination of the universe by changing the long-term outcome of expansion, iirc. but, ianap.

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    3. Re:which way is it? by hort_wort · · Score: 1

      Well, you see, the mass puts pressure on the aether and -- *whack*

      No, no, no one mentioned aether. Nothing to see here, move along. Move along.

    4. Re:which way is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      After all it's just a model that working with high accuracy within some limits.
      I'm a bit against 'It IS this or that way'. No, it is just a model.

      The process of modelling the world, we live in, starts with the concepts of space and time already. Space-time is another idea.
      If we forget that what we build up in our minds are just models of the world or forget that there might be better models that explain things differently, then we might manouver ourselves into a dead-end path, where further understanding of the world is just not possible. Sometimes it requires radical new ideas to get ahead.
      Quantum mechanics and realitivity are such ideas, but we haven't reached the end yet.

    5. Re:which way is it? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "Matter tells space how to bend. Space tells matter how to move" - Young Einstien (movie).

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  10. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Cwix · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I really... really.. REALLY hate people who start their post in the title.

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  11. Yeah but... by BigSes · · Score: 1

    Whats he watching? Futurama or UFC?

  12. Glad to be of by Twinbee · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    service.

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  13. NO! by Yaos · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's disgusting that we allow this person to be in office. His pro-science methods are incompatible with energy policy, pure and simple.

    1. Re:NO! by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fucking magnets, how do they work? And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed!

    2. Re:NO! by Beelzebud · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Flamebait? Really?

    3. Re:NO! by caerwyn · · Score: 1

      It's really not even worth asking that with regards to slashdot moderation, unfortunately.

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    4. Re:NO! by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1

      Think of it as the moderator modifying himself "clueless".

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    5. Re:NO! by Briareos · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:NO! by dkf · · Score: 1

      How do magnets work?

      HTH. HAND.

      BS! It's the leprechauns, dancing on the spot, spinning around and joining hands! It's leprechauns, I tell you!

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  14. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Myji+Humoz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Americans aren't spoiled compared to most other Westerners? If you actually read the article, he said "The American public ... just like your teenage kids, aren't acting in a way that they should act" with respect to climate change. He seems correct, and I would say that it's a welcome change from PR spinning and political doublespeak.

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  15. What about the oil spill? by yyxx · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Just wondering.

    1. Re:What about the oil spill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem new here. Do you really have excellent karma? just wondering?

    2. Re:What about the oil spill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The article was submitted last December 26, months before the oil spill began, and he had two coauthors who could have kept working on it in recent weeks if necessary.

    3. Re:What about the oil spill? by hoytak · · Score: 1

      BP had better be doing a good job with the cleanup, cause now we have a way to be REALLY sure it gets cleaned up.

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    4. Re:What about the oil spill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What about it?

      Can you name anything that Obama's cabinet, personally or collectively, can do that will in any way get the relief wells drilled sooner?

    5. Re:What about the oil spill? by MobileC · · Score: 2, Funny

      The oil spill is larger than 0.5 nm so there shouldn't be a problem.

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    6. Re:What about the oil spill? by yyxx · · Score: 1

      Can you name anything that Obama's cabinet, personally or collectively, can do that will in any way get the relief wells drilled sooner?

      Oh, there is a lot more to be done, like figuring out how to reduce the oil spilling from the current well, figuring out how to reduce the ecological impact of the oil that has already spilled, drafting legislation preventing such problems in the future, figuring out a better energy strategy for the US, supervising BP on their current efforts to drill the relief wells so that they aren't cutting corners again (they aren't done yet, you know).

      If the secretary wants to get his hand dirty technically in addition to his legislative and strategic duties, those are also excellent areas. If that's not where he can apply his expertise, he can do what he is there to do: figuring out funding, legislation, and long-term strategy.

      Sorry, but cabinet-level positions and the presidency are 24/7 jobs. You can see what kinds of disasters happen if people treat them as just day jobs when you look at the Bush years.

  16. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by noidentity · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I really... really.. REALLY hate people who start their post in the title.

    I don't get it either. To me they're like people who send email with subjects like "yo", "tomorrow", and the like.

  17. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Jhon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Question: Why was the department of energy created?

    Answer: Out of the oil crisis of the 1970's, it was formed to attempt to free us from dependence on foreign oil.

    Percentage of imported oil in 1977 (when the department was formed): ~35%
    Percentage of imported oil in 2010: ~64%

  18. He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

    I've schmoozed with plenty of PhDs and post-PhDs, and I haven't met a one whom I'd like to see in a position of any political power or federal-level responsibility. Does this guy Chu sound like he'd be an interesting fellow with whom to have to have a beer? Sure. But you could have described him as a self-taught banjo impresario or the CFO of a large alliance in Eve Online and he'd sound just as interesting, and just as qualified for a cabinet-level job.

    1. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I work with people who have titles like "Chief Scientist". Some of them, sure, I'd vote for them for some office or another because I've seen them handle things like management and budget (this is the private sector after all) and how it pertains to pushing the edges of R&D. Concepts like "We can afford *this* cool breakthrough this year. Put *that* even cooler idea in your top drawer, and we'll explore it next year when we'll have more budget, but put hooks into your current design here and here for it so we can leverage the hardware we build this year."

      Others, if they were in charge, well, let's just say I'm not a violent person, but I'd personally lead the rebel army that took them down.

      Scientists are just people. The geekverse needs to let go of this scientist worship. Yes, this country needs to appreciate math and science more and yada yada and all that. I grok that and support it wholeheartedly. I'm ever considering writing a book to reach segments of our society previously written off for such things. But this idea that some here and elsewhere have that scientists are automatically these cool people dedicated to truth, justice and unbiased world views is pure fantasy. I can't even figure out where it came from other than as a reaction to all the religious loonery,

    2. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't even figure out where it came from other than as a reaction to all the religious loonery.

      I think you have an answer. I can't remember the specific quote, but a crazy person occasionally makes even the sane person go crazy.

      One other influence would be that the qualification for meeting 'nerddom' status has lowered significantly over the years. It doesn't even involve having completed an education. If you can churn out a few lines of code, you're a geek... no exceptions.

    3. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Scientists are just people. The geekverse needs to let go of this scientist worship.

      Putting aside the fact that some geeks are the scientists you describe, the public perception of scientists as white coat-wearing boffins with pipes and tweed jackets is more the fault of the media than the scientists themselves.

      I'm proud of the Beeb bringing Prof. Cox into the limelight - though I'm not a fan myself - but unfortunately there are many who will publically applaud the idea of our impartial, dedicated and modest whitecoat. They only do so to decry a real one.* Geeks aren't the problem because they usually know what scientists and academics are really like.

      As I understand it, the good Mr. Chu wasn't given his post as the result of a public vote. That makes him more akin to a public servant than a politician, I would say, and frankly the US is lucky to have him. Elections are rather like exams: often they don't gauge how well a candidate will perform in office, rather the candidates' ability to pass exams.

      *Sir Humphrey was dead on. You all know which quote I mean. No XKCD today chaps.

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    4. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Here's what Chu really brings to the table as Secretary of Energy: He knows wtf he's talking about, and more importantly wtf the various people who come to him are talking about.

      And don't think that's not a critical ability to have. If, for instance, you're the head of a software company, and you don't understand software, then it's very likely that you'll make poor decisions because one of your subordinates misleads you for their own gain, and you'll allow incompetent people to remain in their jobs because you don't know that they're incompetent.

      Oh, and the reason why Obama picked this particular scientist is that he's shown regularly that he can run large laboratories and major scientific projects, which is not totally different from what he's called upon to do now. If nothing else, picking Chu pissed off the coal and oil industries quite a bit, which made it a worthwhile pick.

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    5. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      the public perception of scientists as white coat-wearing boffins with pipes and tweed jackets is more the fault of the media than the scientists themselves.

      Well, they used to be in the days of flubber. Now they are depicted as remote and cold academics who inadvertently release one apocalypse or another upon the Earth. ;-) I cringed at the beginning of I am Legend where anti-cancer research via repurposed viruses was blamed. In the book the virus was a natural event.

    6. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I generally don't like the terms geek and nerd and use them only sparingly. I know the community has tried to embrace them, but they were endless insults for me growing up, and I still consider them as such.

  19. I love hanging out at my electon microscope by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Watching my PTF tabletop fusion reactor generate neutrons that occasionally bombard the tiny bit of palladium in my scope (mostly bombarding me and my bedroom). I get a warm feeling while watching, not to mention memory lapses and occasional retinal flares. I also have problem with the memory and CPU in my computer sudde

    1. Re:I love hanging out at my electon microscope by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1

      You call your pathetic tabletop fusion reactor a hobby??? I laugh at your feeble inadequacy. My Zero Point Energy Extractor will leave you and your puny efforts as a minor footnote of history. As soon as I figure out how to get my dog back through the inter-dimensional vortex, I'm going public with it, and the world will see what a hobbyist can do, quantum bifurcation anomalies and fractional dimensional rifts be damned!

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    2. Re:I love hanging out at my electon microscope by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      I just checked, and I have a crowbar handy. Carry on.

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  20. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how the author spins a convincing retort like "But Chu is wrong that Americans are "like teenage kids." Americans are understandably reluctant to ..." in such an apologetic and subservient display of support. We need to teach our kids how to assess when they are being pandered to.

  21. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by bunratty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Question: What is the purpose of China's One Child Policy is to decrease the Chinese population?

    Answer: To decrease the Chinese population.

    The Chinese population has nearly doubled since the One Child Policy started.

    But one has to wonder What would the population be today had there been no One Child Policy?

    Critical thinking: It's more that a knee-jerk reaction based on a sound bite.

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  22. Always the Bush dig eh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya gotta get over it, it will hold you back and give you ulcers.

    Let the hate go.

    1. Re:Always the Bush dig eh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

  23. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Jhon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Critical thinking: It's more that a knee-jerk reaction based on a sound bite.

    I would suggest re-reading my post, then your post. Then I would further suggest you actually apply a bit of critical thinking and see if what you posted actually means what you obviously think it means.

  24. public domain/govt product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not everything produced under gov't contract or by gov't employees is in the public domain. Far from it.
    Things you do, not at work, and not "on the clock" belong to you (regardless of who you work for). If you use your employer's facilities (e.g. your work laptop that you brought home), your employer gets a "shop right" to use it on a non-exclusive basis.
    Many, many government contracts these days have a limited rights clause, where the price is lower in exchange for the government getting a non-exclusive license to the product of the contract, but no right of reproduction or disclosure.

  25. Bottles Preserves by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Funny

    He makes his own Chu Jelly. The blue's okay, but don't eat the purple.

  26. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He seems correct, and I would say that it's a welcome change from PR spinning and political doublespeak.

    I'm just amazed that someone as smart as Chu would think that you can effectively slow down the locust-like consumption of resources that humans are so good at. I won't begrudge people for TRYING to stop global warming, but really we should be trying to plan for the consequences... this thing is going to happen.

  27. Brains and ambition by macraig · · Score: 1

    Since that combination of high intelligence and ambition is so often NOT socially beneficial, it's a damned good thing that this one wound up becoming a nerd and distracted with science....

    1. Re:Brains and ambition by SailorSpork · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean. I watched Pinky & The Brain too.

  28. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Couldn't you double a population by simply keeping people alive longer? If you have a huge baby boom, like post-war China, each of those people having a single kid and then a single grand-kid would triple the size of the boom population.

  29. Flamebait oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why can't he spend his free time coming up with the best way to deal with (and bite the bullet and solve) the nuclear fission waste issue cleanly as possible, exponentially increase teh efficiently of solar energy receptors, maybe solve the problems remaining preventing an endless energy source from actual fusion, then he can move on to cold fusion, infrastructure and standards for flying cars, and flying bicycles Will someone please put a frickin' laser beam on this shark? I know, just a man, but wgpcgr, such a special office filled with such a rare individual should be exploited by the Forces of Good (FoG) to ensure a better future.

  30. I know this is supposed to be an article where we by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .. make fun of Chu, but I am such a Chu groupie. A surefire way to draw me to a conference is to announce that he'll be speaking there. ;) I just loved him during his confirmation hearing, how he perked up when finally asked a question that was even remotely technical. "Now we're getting to Science! I love this!" I had read some of his papers before he was even tapped for the position; I was so thrilled to hear he was picked. He really knows his stuff.

    His big weakness is that he's no politician, and he sometimes has trouble keeping is mouth shut from speaking politically inconvenient things. For example, dealing with the hydrogen people... ;)

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  31. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The American public ... just like your teenage kids, aren't acting in a way that they should act" with respect to climate change.

    Then maybe he should set an example.

  32. That's funny, I'm a physicist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and I spend my free time complaining about how the Dept. of Energy is run.

  33. You would think... by sycodon · · Score: 0

    ...that with the shit hitting the fan everywhere, the economy in shambles, urgent need to find "clean" energy, etc. that he wouldn't have time for such things.

    Is he paying attention?

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    1. Re:You would think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah he is, that's why he's continuing to do things that contribute to America staying on top of the technical bar rather than sinking into further MBAness (which is what got us in this mess in the first place. Too many MBAs, Lawyers, and Politicians, and not enough legal/technical ways to get rid of them :D

    2. Re:You would think... by oiron · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, this is slashdot and all, but it wouldn't kill you to RTFA

      Both were published while he has been energy secretary, but started long before he took the job in January 2009.

    3. Re:You would think... by quanticle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, that all makes sense, but lets remember that Steven Chu has very little to do with any of the stuff that's going wrong. The DoE is essentially a laboratory, pushing research into new forms of energy generation and transport. Steven Chu knows the limits of his power and expertise and stays well away from fields where he doesn't have the necessary expertise and could do more harm than good. Heck, if more politicians followed his lead and STFU about things they know nothing about, the world would be a lot less fucked up at the moment.

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    4. Re:You would think... by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would assume, the intelligent man that he is, that he can pay attention to more than one thing at the same time.

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    5. Re:You would think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steven Chu ... stays well away from fields where he ... could do more harm than good. Heck, if more politicians followed his lead and STFU about things they know nothing about, the world would be a lot less fucked up at the moment.

      But Saddam would still be in Iraq!
      </twist-godwin>

    6. Re:You would think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, I guess he didn't do it while he was secretary, which means the thrust of the article is pure bullshit.

      If he did any part of it while he was Secretary, then he was fucking off when he should have been paying attention.

  34. FRAUD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dr. Steven Chu has committed fruad!

    A third author, is no author. He makes claims to things that are NOT his!

    The first author committed fruad too!: having a "Chu" in the authors list only for the reason for this "Chu" is the current US Sec DoE and nothing else.

    Good Night Empiror Dr. Steven Chu ... the Terra Cotta Warriors are waiting.

    1. Re:FRAUD! by Shag · · Score: 1

      Eh, you're being a little quick to dismiss things. A third author typically had, at the very least, some meaningful role in the research that was done, and is a full member of whatever collaboration did it. (And probably has a Ph.D., or is working on one.)

      I'm an associate member of a collaboration, and as such I make it onto the authors list for various little announcements they put out, but although I take a lot of the data, I'm not as involved in analyzing what it all means (I'm still shy of a M.Sc) so I usually just wind up in the "thanks to..." part at the end of real papers. :)

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  35. He reminds me of GW Bush by Z8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-finds-error-in-fermilab-calculations,1463/

    Funny, but the fact that it's funny is also sad (sad that it's so ridiculous to think he'd be interested in science). Glad that what was parody is now sorta true.

  36. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except the Dept was really created to control nuclear applications, both for reactors and bombmaking. It wouldn't have become a Cabinet level post with armed agent personnel without the Nuclear side.

    Here's their mission statement. I've highlighted the Nukestuff:

    The Department of Energy's overarching mission is to advance the national, economic, and energy security of the United States; to promote scientific and technological innovation in support of that mission; and to ensure the environmental cleanup of the national nuclear weapons complex. The Department's strategic goals to achieve the mission are designed to deliver results along five strategic themes:
    Energy Security: Promoting America's energy security through reliable, clean, and affordable energy
    Nuclear Security: Ensuring America's nuclear security
            Scientific Discovery and Innovation: Strengthening U.S. scientific discovery, economic competitiveness, and improving quality of life through innovations in science and technology
    Environmental Responsibility: Protecting the environment by providing a responsible resolution to the environmental legacy of nuclear weapons production
            Management Excellence: Enabling the mission through sound management

    You'll notice that Nuclear related technologies are explicitly mentioned three times, and that, while energy security is about 'reliable, clean and affordable energy', and presumably economic security is referenced again by that 'affordable' bit, there's also the phrase national security as a separable clause.

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  37. Well at least this guy did something to earn it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His Nobel Prize, that is. Unlike his boss. That medal has become an albatross around Obama's incompetent neck. Show us the jobs, motherfucker. You wasted a year ramming overpriced healthcare up our asses, when job-creation would have resulted in more people having health insurance.

  38. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

    His big weakness is that he's no politician, and he sometimes has trouble keeping is mouth shut from speaking politically inconvenient things. For example, dealing with the hydrogen people... ;)

    Be thankful. Here in the UK we sack our scientists for being politcally inconvenient, just look at the recent drugs fiasco.

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  39. Public Information by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's too bad one of our employees is writing a paper that appears behind a pay wall.

    1. Re:Public Information by Grieviant · · Score: 1

      That's about the only option if he aims to have it read by other experts in the field. If government employees received an exemption from the paywall, it would be decried as favoritism. However, the gov typically retains the copyright instead of passing it on to the journal, so it's probably legal for him to post it on the web.

    2. Re:Public Information by SydShamino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you one of those people that think companies should own every creative output of their employees, even ones done at home on their own time on an unrelated topic?

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    3. Re:Public Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My company owns my kids finger paintings.

  40. I sure am glad he's our Energy Secretary by hargrand · · Score: 1

    Just think how much worse that oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico would be if he wasn't on the job.

  41. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by stoanhart · · Score: 1

    It's a problem that he will speak the truth even though it may be politically inconvenient? Seems like a bonus qualification to me.

  42. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DoE was the new name for the old Atomic Energy Commission..

    That reliable, clean affordable energy is, of course, nuclear energy: too cheap to meter, made from seawater.

  43. Get used to it by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Putting on the clown suit designed to look like an over the top pilots uniform and standing in front of the "mission accomplished" banner is the sort of thing people that are not even alive yet will be laughing about in their old age.

  44. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by TheEyes · · Score: 1

    God I wish. Half the people in office would be street sweepers if that were the case. ... and the other half would be sweeping the other side of the street.

  45. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd think once you win a Nobel prize in science (not that B.S. literature or peace stuff) you earn the right to say politically inconvenient things, especially when they relate to science.

  46. Smarter than the entire Bush Administration by haruchai · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    all by himself.

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  47. Re:Well at least this guy did something to earn it by haruchai · · Score: 1

    At least now your trip to the proctologist is covered.

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  48. Not true, nothing new here by ygslash · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TFA states:

    Instead of objects measuring 10 nanometers — thought to be the about the smallest scientists could see using such microscopes — Chu came up with a system using existing technology to see objects... as small as half a nanometer.

    Near-field Scanning Optical Microscopy (NSOM) has been an active area of research for over 25 years, and sub-nanometer aperture instruments have been on the market for over 20 years.

    Unfortunately, neither the poster nor TFA linked Chu's paper, or any other source of real information about Chu's claims. It could very well be that he has done something new and useful, but it sure doesn't sound like it from this article.

    1. Re:Not true, nothing new here by ygslash · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah, here is Chu's paper: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature09163.html

      So this is conventional far-field microscopy. There is a hard physical limit to the resolution in far-field microscopes, about 250nm. Chu is demonstrating a way to leverage existing knowledge about the sample to coax out more information, e.g., the distance between what is already known to be two distinct fluorescent dots.

      A far cry from "seeing objects" at that scale using far-field microscopy, as claimed by MSNBC. For that, you need near-field.

      I wonder what the advantage could be to using clumsy far-field techniques like that instead of an existing NSOM instrument that is far more sensitive. In fact, the application mentioned in the paper, deciphering "the structure of large, multisubunit biological complexes in biologically relevant environments," is exactly the application that originally sparked the development of NSOM in the 1980's. Though of course NSOM is used for many other applications today.

  49. last author by Weezul · · Score: 1

    Yes, last authors are traditionally the older scientist who runs the laboratory, i.e. the guy who paid most everybody else. All the middle authors could be anything from other primary researchers or other grant holders or lab techs or just buddies of the author.

    Imho, the first authorship system doesn't work very well because often two people put equal work into a paper but you cannot have two first authors.

    In mathematics, we assume that all authors contribute significantly to the research, and all authors are almost always listed alphabetically. You are not usually awarded any authorship position merely for holding the grant that paid for the salaries of other researchers, although some grant holders have tried that trick.

    Mathematicians are usually prevented from adding their name onto the research of their students and postdocs because solo author papers are critical for career advancement. In other words, if you add your name to your students work, then you'll hurt their job prospects, which'll hurt your reputation indirectly.

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  50. He is not good at handling social conflicts. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    "Is he paying attention?"

    No, he isn't. He does not have the social ability to handle the enormous conflicts inside the U.S. Department of Energy. I sent him a long letter before he decided to take the job expressing that opinion.

    He doesn't give politics or social conflicts much attention: "Mr. Secretary, I would say I'm worried that you only know what you read in the papers about what's being approved."

    There is more about my opinions concerning the DOE on my web site.

    Dr. Chu is, however, FAR better than the Secretary of the DOE under President George W. Bush.

    1. Re:He is not good at handling social conflicts. by smidget2k4 · · Score: 1
      He was referring to BP donating $500mil to his alternative energy research lab at UC Berkeley in 2007, two years before he got the job. He was understandably excited about what the new money was going to get his lab.

      From your article:

      "The institute to date has launched 68 programs in five research areas: feedstock development, biomass depolymerization, biofuels production, enhanced hydrocarbon recovery and the socio-economic impacts of cellulosic biofuels development. More than 300 researchers are working to develop affordable and renewable sources of energy. And the program has produced a 320-acre energy farm that works as a "living laboratory" for developing promising biofuel feedstocks and studying greenhouse gas emissions. "

      And the problem with that is...?

  51. I need a better hobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Than watching TV and posting to slashdot.

  52. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    It's pretty easy to demand other people change their ways ways. Almost teenager-like, in fact. What has he done to change his ways to behave the way he should with respect to climate change?

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  53. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Jhon · · Score: 1

    Oh? Why not read the DoE's charter from 1977? You might well read it's mission statement from today, but that doesn't change the validity of my statement!

  54. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by bitingduck · · Score: 1

    Yeah, a friend of mine has worked with him occasionally. She's frighteningly smart (I've known and worked with large numbers of smart people, and she's scary smart in a population of a lot of smart people) and she thinks he's frighteningly smart.

  55. Grant funding? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    He is a Nobel Laureate. If that does not help him out then the extra boost for being a cabinet secretary is probably not going to be much extra help.

    True...but I hope there are some ethical safeguards in place between him and funding decisions for DoE grants. Having someone scientifically qualified in government is great, having them actively pursuing their research program while in an office that decides which research to fund is potentially dangerous. Presumably he can set budgets for the different research areas and influence those who adjudicate grants?

    Just to be very clear - I am not in any way at all suggesting that he has acted inappropriately and there may well be adequate safeguards and procedures in place. However this is an unusual situation and if those safeguards are not there I can see it leading to trouble. In political office it is not enough to just behave correctly - you have to be able to show that you behaved correctly.

  56. Chu and Minsky by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    Chu's leap in optical resolution using existing technology almost mirrors Marvin Minsky's first major invention, the confocal microscope (1957).

    We got ourselves a good one kids.

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  57. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by shrimppesto · · Score: 1

    The Chinese population has nearly doubled since the One Child Policy started.

    uhh, [citation needed]? i'm not debating the merits of the policy, but that's a bogus claim.

    Population 1979: 965005000
    Population 2008: 1324655000

    Source: World Bank, http://tinyurl.com/23b8tdx

  58. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Mo+Bedda · · Score: 1

    Have any reference or citation to back up the validity of your statement? I did find an unsupported statement on Wikipedia making the same claim, but skimming the Department of Energy Organization Act of 1977, and reading President Carter's statement upon signing it, it doesn't sound like freeing us from dependence on foreign oil was a major focus. If DOE had been "formed to attempt to free us from dependence on foreign oil", I would think the subject would be raised more prominently by one or the other.

  59. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by sco08y · · Score: 1

    But one has to wonder What would the population be today had there been no One Child Policy?

    A bigger question is: what would the standard of living be? And what would the balance of males to females be?

    If the Chinese weren't so busy slaughtering (mostly) their female children and its future workforce, they might be wealthy enough that their population growth would have gone down due to economic pressures.

    But, no, one of the most horrendous human rights abuses of the 20th century is a great fucking idea, really it is.

  60. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    Seems like a bonus qualification to me.

    You're obviously not a politician.

    (For which you may well be truly thankful. Or just casually thankful.)

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  61. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
    Chu is good.

    It's nice anytime a superpower recognises the difference between politics and science, and has leadership with an IQ above room temperature.

    This is the first couple of years in a very, very long time where I haven't been afraid of you lot. Not that I shouldn't still be, perhaps, but the current situation is that I'm not.

    Good on you, mate.

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  62. Re:I know this is supposed to be an article where by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

    heh room temperature in the Netherlands is about 21 degrees celsius, so according to our standards most politicians have an IQ above that (Except for Geert Wilders of course) :)

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  63. Minor Improvement to Existing Tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This makes a great story, but in reality it's a relatively minor improvement to a technique that was first published back in 2003 (ignoring some earlier precedents).

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/300/5628/2061

  64. Again, he is not good handling social conflicts. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    There is always, in my experience, something sensible underlying what Dr. Steven Chu of the DOE says. However, in this case, and in many, many others, he did not make himself clear to the interviewer.

    That's a social conflict, and he didn't handle it well.