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BP Caught Photoshopping Disaster Response Photos

An anonymous reader tipped a post up on Americablog revealing that BP Photoshopped a fake photo of their crisis command center and posted it on their main site. The blogger commented, "I guess if you're doing fake crisis response, you might as well fake a photo of the crisis response center." While this story was just being picked up by the Washington Post, an Americablog reader spotted another doctored BP photo on their website, this time of a "top kill" working group. How many others?

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  1. Who cares by richy+freeway · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, who cares? They photoshopped an image for aesthetic reasons, big deal. If you don't believe what's going on you can watch the streams yourself.

    http://www.bp.com/sectionbodycopy.do?categoryId=9034366&contentId=7063636

    1. Re:Who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is just an attempt to get more hits on that shitty blog. These images are just filler material for purely aesthetic purposes, it's not like BP submitted these in court to prove that they were trying their bestest to stem the leak.

    2. Re:Who cares by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Really, who cares? They photoshopped an image for aesthetic reasons, big deal.

      Might as well just actors and a set then if asthetics are what count.
      PS - maybe they did, seems the metadata in the file says the image from 2001, not 2010.

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    3. Re:Who cares by mentil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just because it has a low profile doesn't make it any less an instance of disinformation.
      It deserves to be uncovered on a blog, but probably isn't Slashdot-worthy.

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    4. Re:Who cares by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a fake crisis, like so many others. Photoshopped news is not that rare. And often, it's for more than just aesthetics

      http://www.speroforum.com/a/34500/Reuters-admits-to-doctored-photos-of-Gaza-Flotilla
      (after all the story was that Israel attacked "unarmed" protestors, can't have huge knives in the hands of protestors, especially when they appear to be using them on soldiers)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War_photographs_controversies

      http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/184452.php

      I guess in some cases, these fotos are simply "fake, but accurate", right ? And then there are the tings never shown :

      http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2009/02/a-dispatch-from.php

    5. Re:Who cares by Teun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it's not like BP submitted these in court to prove that they were trying their bestest to stem the leak.

      It's called the court of Public Opinion and it's unforgiving.

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    6. Re:Who cares by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Funny

      The court of public opinion has decided that oil = bad. If a BP exec were caught on camera tickling a puppy, there would be at least a half-dozen sites declaring "Evil BP overlords publicly torture puppies".

    7. Re:Who cares by HungryHobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the case of reuters and other serious news companies photoshopped images generally lead 1 or more people getting canned.

      This sort of thing- companies releasing images to simply mislead the public is far far far more common.

      I've seen some odd ones like a coal company releasing photoshopped images of coal faces.(clone tool to make it look like there was more coal than there really was)
      Police have been caught photoshoping images subtly for court proceedings.

      But the worst offenders seem to be governments. Be it cutting out unpoplar people from a publicity shoot, changing history or enlarging a crowd photoshop is the politicians greatest friend.

    8. Re:Who cares by Canazza · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I thought it wasn't so much about the fact they shopped it, but the fact that they skimped out and got some worthless hack to do a terrible job of it.

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    9. Re:Who cares by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or are you one of those 'interesting' people who use jpeg artifacts to claim the Moon doesn't exist, or whatever?

      Please tell me that you made that one up...

    10. Re:Who cares by c6gunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, I'm pretty sure they work for the Illuminati. I'm pretty sure a corporation like BP wouldn't allow lowly masons amongst it's ranks. Their reptilian overlords would shit a brick.

    11. Re:Who cares by bwalling · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's called the court of Public Opinion and it's unforgiving.

      The court of public opinion is downright foolish. We're all pissed about the oil spill after we chanted "drill, baby, drill" and keep driving around in our SUVs with no passengers.

    12. Re:Who cares by flosofl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are at least a couple of Freemasonry orders where you as part of the rites of ascending in rank have to sacrifice a live animal.

      Yeah... unless you can back that one up, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

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    13. Re:Who cares by jandersen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The court of public opinion has decided that oil = bad

      Which may not be such a bad thing, in a sense. The world really, seriously needs to get off its oil-addiction, and I don't think people will be willing to give up the convenience of cheap energy unless it somehow becomes a massively uncool things to use oil in the public imagination.

      Yes, I am fully aware that this is not "fair" - since when has that mattered? Fairness has never been the watch word in the world of business before, so why should it be now?

    14. Re:Who cares by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oil does in fact equal bad regardless of public opinion. The worst part is, it's a necessary evil in today's world. BP's problem is that they cut corners for money while drilling, ignored their engineers, and caused a catastrophe that killed people and badly polluted the entire Gilf of Mexico and ruined the Livelihoods, lifestyles and lives of hundreds of thousands of people.

      BP deserves no pity and no slack. Period. I don't care how many puppies they tickle. Someone should be in prison for what BP did.

    15. Re:Who cares by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are at least a couple of Freemasonry orders where you as part of the rites of ascending in rank have to sacrifice a live animal.

      Yeah... unless you can back that one up, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

      The technical term for this ritual is "Going out to Hooters with the guys for beers and wings", and yes it does involve the sacrifice of dozens of animals. The fact that the actual slaughter is conducted by anointed priests in a remote temple does nothing to change it.

      You don't even want to know the body count of the "Putting some burgers on the grill" ceremony. It's abominable.

    16. Re:Who cares by Hellahulla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Umm, so, every BP employee should be helping to clean up the spill? Do you have any idea how disastrous and what a logistical nightmare 60,000 people trying to do that job would be? I'm questioning your intelligence here in case you didn't notice.

  2. What's the fuss by captain_dope_pants · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A quick read of TFAs and some links within them lead me to think this is a non-story. They write that BP had blank screens and photoshopped them to be not blank, saying "Why were they blank? coffee break ?" There's a ton of reasons they could be blank. A bit stupid of BP to 'shop them though.

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    1. Re:What's the fuss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      One of the pictures was apparently taken in 2001 according to EXIF data

    2. Re:What's the fuss by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because everyone sets the times on their cameras

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  3. So the story is... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "BP Removes reflection of camera flash from meaningless publicity photo! UPDATE: Twice!"

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    1. Re:So the story is... by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What kind of flash reflection removal leaves polygonal white outline around someone's head?

      Have one look at the analysis. This is not "this photo has been processed through photoshop before publication". This is a blatant failure of combining various photos into one picture and trying to make them look good. I bet screens full of tables, log displays and emails were deemed not attractive enough and got replaced with colorful photos of most photogenic locations of the disaster.

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    2. Re:So the story is... by MachDelta · · Score: 4, Informative

      BP posted the original. All they photochopped were three of the screens, two of which were blank (one says "loading") and one of which looks like it's staring directly at a bright light. You'll also notice the source for the replacement screens are just three of the other existing screens.

      Essentially it's a piss poor (and I mean PISS poor... anyone with photoshop experience could hack that trash out in minutes) touch-up by a company that should be acutely aware of it's current reputation.

      TLDR version.... BP /facepalm

    3. Re:So the story is... by robbak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, If I were doing what those guys were, and someone sent me such a memo, I'd .. well, I'd probably just toss it in the bin, and get on with important work.

      If anything, this shows that they are focusing on the clean-up work, and some less important PR stuff is slipping. As it should be.

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    4. Re:So the story is... by Dhalka226 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I want to see every fucking screen in use in there 24/7, with the place filled with Ph.Ds that cost them hundreds of dollars an hour who are actively working on this problem.

      Well, I think you've just illustrated beyond a doubt why they did what they did. A couple of screens are blank for reasons we don't even know and your immediate response is "ROAR I WANT PHDS TO MONITOR VIDEO SCREENS 24/7~~!!one!" Come on now. You don't even need PhD's in that room much less be bitching about whether or not a particular video stream is up at any given time.

      Is it a bad picture? Yeah. So what? It's simply hatred of BP for what happened that makes you think it's a big deal, because it's absolutely not. The idea that a poor Photoshop job somehow means they're a terrible company who doesn't know what it's doing is laughably absurd.

      Now if you want to talk about them being greedy bastards who very probably ignored safety concerns for the chance at slightly increased profits, or that this needs to cost them so much they don't want to go on living, I'm all on board.

    5. Re:So the story is... by AGMW · · Score: 2, Informative

      Basically you have to be incompetent all around to get a shitty photo in the first place.

      LMAO! But if they'd hired Lord Lichfield you folks'd be up in arms at the waste of money hiring a photographer who's got a clue!

      And we're talking about the biggest manmade ecological disaster in quite some time, I want to see every fucking screen in use in there 24/7 ...

      COAFB! And you wonder why they wanted to make it look like all the screens were in use - it's because of muppets like you who think that all the BP staff, from the highest exec to the cleaners in their London HQ should somehow be lending a hand during this monumental FUBAR! Get a grip people!

      What kind of people are they hiring to work on the spill?

      I expect they've got all their Marketing Dept, car pool drivers, warehouse personnel, programmers, canteen staff, and librarians taking diving lessons and "Deep Sea Drilling for the Layman" courses as we speak, so they can be parachuted in to help! (and parachuting lessons, obviously!)

      Really! What's with all the hysteria? This is the Salem Witch trials vs MacCarthyism in a fight to the death to see who can make their heads explode first! So many people digging so deep to find anything at all to discredit BP Amoco when they're already so damaged there's no point, unless you're after a share of the fallout?

      The latest is the stories about BP lobbying for the release of al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie Bomber. Now I say "Lockerbie Bomber but there's really a lot of evidence to suggest he wasn't the one, and the UK and US Govs know it and certainly don't want anyone raking over those old coals - no sirree-bob, but if BP were looking at oil interests off the coast of Libya and helped with some lobbying that suddenly makes the oil spill worse - regardless of the fact that many US oil companies are also sniffing around Libya and Gaddaffi at the moment, and ANYTHING that can be done to damage BP Amoco further can only help the profits of those American companies!

      OK OK ... I know BP aren't the innocent fluffy bunnies they'd like us to think they are, but there's one hell of an elephant in the room when the US cries foul over this but did NOTHING, ZIP, NADA about events like Bhopal until last month when some American company was fined $100000 or so - and that affected 100's of thousands of people with 15000 deaths - FORTY TWO YEARS AGO!

      And why is BP taking all the flak when Transocean owned and operated the drill rig. Haliburton is a drilling services company that poured the cement plug that likely failed prior to the blowout. Schlumberger, another drilling-services contractor, was on the rig in the days leading up to the explosion to perform key safety tests, though their services were never put to use, and Cameron made the blowout preventer that failed to stop the uncontrolled flow of oil and gas. Sure, it's BP's responsibility to clean up, and they do seem to be actively doing so, but don't tell me the other companies carry none of the blame for the failure because that's just unpossible!

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    6. Re:So the story is... by miserere+nobis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      BP posted what they said was the original.

      Fixed that for you. Surprising how quickly we assume truthfulness on the part of people who try to slip an untruth past us once. Just because their explanation is plausible doesn't mean it is legitimate. I mean, I'm not proposing the opposite is necessarily true, either, but it seems silly to assume trustworthiness of someone who has just demonstrated otherwise.

  4. OMG!!!! NOES11111 by theolein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you have to find fault with BP, find fault with things they really messed up, of which there are many, but not a photo retouched for aesthetic reasons.

    1. Re:OMG!!!! NOES11111 by protodevilin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      BP's credibility as a responsible energy corporation is at stake, and this photo indeed was intended to be a demonstration of BP's response to the oil disaster. Knowing that they'd go to such lengths (albeit haphazardly) to doctor--and subsequently lie about--the photos further damages that credibility. Oil spills are bad, but misinformation about them is no less destructive.

    2. Re:OMG!!!! NOES11111 by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Interesting

      True, but as the imagery business is my business, I submit that in my professional opinion, that statement is a lie.

      According to a previous post, you're a healthcare technician.
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1088953&cid=26416793

      So what is it? X-Rays or CAT scanners? And that somehow makes your beliefs a "professional opinion" on photographers and photoshoppers? Oh dear.

      Your "lie" seems a lot more deceptive than the photo you are complaining about.

    3. Re:OMG!!!! NOES11111 by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A photography that is produced, shown and marketed for aesthetics is one thing. It's goal is to look cool. Just like an entertaining movie.
      A photography that is documenting reality, that is meant to inform and educate has a goal of being accurate. Like news reporting.
      A photography that is pretending to document reality while aiming at looking cool is what tabloids are, disreputable shit.

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  5. More BP news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make sure you shake them down real good. Know you, bankrupt them or something. Just don't come crying to me when you wake up and realise a good 38 or 39% of BP is US owned, despite the apparent 'anti British feeling' this whole thing is riding upon. As far as the media are concerned, it's fighting the redcoats all over again... except in actuality, you're shooting yourself

    1. Re:More BP news... by abigsmurf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, When can the UK expect Obama to come over and talk with minor MPs to talk about US banks ruining costing the country billions and to pay the British citizens compensation?

      If I was Cameron I would have just ignored those senators. The UK doesn't tell the US what to do with their prisoners, the US shouldn't tell the UK what to do with theirs. The guy probably would have been released on appeal anyway. The evidence against him was shockingly bad and should've been laughed out of court.

    2. Re:More BP news... by Burb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely! The oil spill is bad enough, and there's no point pretending otherwise, but I find the anti-British sentiment that accompanies it unbelievably distasteful. As we say in football (soccer), play the ball, not the man! Deal with the issues, of course. It doesn't matter who owns BP; they and the company should be held to account without regard to their nationality.

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    3. Re:More BP news... by delinear · · Score: 4, Informative

      The prisoner he's talking about is Lockerbie bomber, al-Megrahi, who was released on compassionate grounds to die at home of agressive cancer, the recent news being that he might now live another ten years or more (although why his release should cause anti-British feeling is beyond me, it was a Scottish executive decision that most people in Britain were against and the British parliament had no say in, and in fact I think the three parties were all against the release). And if "[the] guy probably would have been released on appeal anyway", then he should have appealed. As it stands he's a convicted terrorist guilty of the biggest mass murder in the country's history and he was allowed to go home on "compassionate" grounds, it's not just people in the US who were angry over this by a long chalk. It was heavily rumoured at the time that the motivator in Scotland releasing al-Megrahi was Libyan oil (lots of oil companies wanted to open talks with Libya but al-Megrahi's imprisonment was a barrier, not to mention Scotland has a lot of experience in the oil industry and stands to benefit selling that expertise) - of course the oil link was widely refuted at the time, but now there have been suggestions (again refuted) that BP directly lobbied for the release.

  6. Horrible photoshopping at that by mikael_j · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first photo had some easy to spot glitches and EXIF data that indicated the photo was nine years old.

    The second photo was so obviously photoshopped it was ridiculous.

    Clearly there's a business opportunity here, I know I could throw together much better fakes in under an hour and even if I billed them for a full day of labor it would probably still cost them less than what this horribly botched photoshop job cost them...

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    1. Re:Horrible photoshopping at that by abigsmurf · · Score: 4, Informative

      The EXIF data only indicates that they probably didn't set their camera clock or it got reset changing the batteries.

    2. Re:Horrible photoshopping at that by mikael_j · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, noticed that later, apparently they used a camera that wasn't released until 2007. The images are still clearly doctored though.

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    3. Re:Horrible photoshopping at that by Urkki · · Score: 3, Funny

      The EXIF data only indicates that they probably didn't set their camera clock or it got reset changing the batteries.

      Don't forget Occam's Razor! Is that really the simplest explanation that fits the known facts? No, not by a long shot! You know how much money oil industry has. It's practically certain they have time machine, which they've used to transfer the command center back in time, to a random time before the accident. That way they could take a photo without showing the panic and chaos there is today, so that they appear to be in control of the situation.

  7. Quality of work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What ever happened to the days where you'd get some skilled laborers and build a set, hire actors and fake a photo LEGITIMATELY?

    1. Re:Quality of work... by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Funny

      yeah...

      The "Moon Landing" was a masterpiece. I couldn't find one flaw, and those who say lighting was off are wrong, the lighting was the best of all.

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    2. Re:Quality of work... by FreeBSD+evangelist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Costs too much.

    3. Re:Quality of work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's because they filmed it all on location. The secret world government has had several moon bases ever since Roswell. The so-called "space race" was just a way to siphon off trillions of dollars from people all over the world in order to pay for the war against the Lizardmen, which we subsequently lost (and that's where Barack Obama came from). Why won't they tell us the truth!?!?

    4. Re:Quality of work... by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because they filmed it all on location.

      Now that's brilliant! What better place to fake a moon landing than on the moon itself!

      You sir have exposed the truth once and for all! You're my hero.

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  8. Stupid article by abigsmurf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For one thing. Why the hell does it matter? It's an

    However there is utter garbage reporting on that site. They used the exif data as 'proof' the photo was actually taken in 2001. If you're going to call out a company for incompetence and/or missleading people, perhaps it would be best to demonstrate a bit of common sense.

    Do the editors also wonder if they've been caught in a time vortex when they notice their AV equipment flashing 00:00?

    1. Re:Stupid article by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

      For one thing. Why the hell does it matter? It's an

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      Yeah, I drew a blank on this one, too.

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  9. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is just an attempt to get more hits on that shitty blog. These images are just filler material for purely aesthetic purposes, it's not like BP submitted these in court to prove that they were trying their bestest to stem the leak.

    So, as long as it's not in court, a company can tell lies... because most stories they tell about their products and business model are in the media basically for aesthetic purposes.

    In fact, commercials too are all about aesthetics.

    The point is that BP have done an awful lot of things for "aesthetic purposes" lately. Like changing a few numbers (flow of oil) in the media. Like predicting when it'd all be solved. Like saying that oil isn't dangerous.

    It's easy to do "aesthetics" if you have billions of profit to keep the logo looking green.

  10. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, as long as it's not in court, a company can tell lies... because most stories they tell about their products and business model are in the media basically for aesthetic purposes.

    Ever seen a woman wear makeup...?

  11. Re:The Story here... by fluch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III is from around 2007 (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS-1Ds_Mark_III). So if this info is correct then 2001-03-06 is wrong.

  12. Humanity cares by BonquiquiShiquavius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason this story is newsworthy is because humanity in general hates liars. Call it what you will...spin, doctoring, touching up for "aesthetic reasons", etc...it's a variation from the truth.

    That being said, I agree there's a boundary where nobody cares anymore whether it's real or not - e.g. if a cover girl's photo is severely doctored to conform to the beauty standard of the times. Why? Because it's bubblegum pop news.

    BP on the other hand is not only front page news, it's currently the antagonist in what will be recorded as one of the worst environmental disasters of the 21st century. History will forget that People Magazine's cover of Britney Spears makes it look like she's a D cup instead of a B cup*, but it won't forget that BP downgraded the seriousness of the situation at every available opportunity.


    *This is a purely fictional example...I have no idea of what magazines splashed Britney Spears' cleavage all over their front page, and what her actual vs depicted dimensions are...all I care is that she appears to be popping out of any garment they squeeze her into.

    1. Re:Humanity cares by rufty_tufty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's currently the antagonist in what will be recorded as one of the worst environmental disasters of the 21st century.

      There's an awful lot of 21st Century left yet, not sure I'd make that statement quite yet.

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    2. Re:Humanity cares by Nadaka · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't want to wait for nuclear powered space ship disasters.

      We should have had them a decade ago.

    3. Re:Humanity cares by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The 21st Century is less than 10 years old , but Century sounds worse than Decade aesthetically

      I suspect that Oil wells burning in Kuwait, or the small matter of the Chernobyl disaster might have been worse environmental disasters, but they are so last century, and did not affect the USA so they don't count ....

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    4. Re:Humanity cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The reason this story is newsworthy is because humanity in general hates liars.

      I'd argue the exact opposite. Humanity in general seems to love liars and being lied to. They idolize those who present a rosy picture of the world. Even worse, humans have a tendency to villainise those who point out the lies and hypocrisy in what they're being told.

  13. The other faked photo by fluch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As far as I can see, the photoshop edit made to the other faked photo is only of cosmetic nature: the computer presentation has been made darker in order to reduce contrast and make the content better visible. So I don't see a big deal here.

    1. Re:The other faked photo by Americano · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, because that photographer should be out there mopping up oil and controlling ROVs to place a new cap instead of, you know, taking photographs and photoshopping them to make them presentable.

      And don't get me started on the guys working security in the BP office buildings - they've done NOTHING to help with this crisis response. They're not even drilling relief wells!

  14. The meaning of PR by Battal+Boy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is what PR means today: putting up the appearance of doing something seems to be more important than actually doing it. This doesn't necessarily mean that they are doing nothing but such manipulation (under the name of PR) means that there is a large disconnect between image and content that can only raise questions...

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  15. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ever seen a woman wear makeup...?

    More importantly, ever wake up next to her the next morning and seen the reality of the same face without makeup? Can be a scary thing sometimes, perhaps best left unseen.

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  16. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ever seen a woman wear makeup...?

    More importantly, ever wake up next to her the next morning and seen the reality of the same face without makeup?

    No, I haven't. :(

  17. Transport Tycoon by johno.ie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Take a look at the large version of that photo. It looks like someone in the office was busy playing transport tycoon instead of trying to manage some real world logistics.

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  18. OH MY GOD...The Spill is a FRAUD by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why isn't there a real spill response center? Because there is no spill!!

    I knew it - just like the damned moon landings. This whole spill thing is a fraud, isn't it? Those shots of the oil coming out of the sea bed are probably computer generated! This proves it - BP is clearly just making all of this stuff up. And who is going to question them, huh? Can you go down 5000 feet to see it for your self? NO! You just have to take their word for it, that the "cameras" they have "placed" are really there.

    Drop a few cans of Pennzoil on the surface, dip some wild life if a bucket of goop, and maybe dispose of some of that tar you can't find a landfill to take. Heck, I've heard the stories about how the private fisherman in LA have been fishing the whole time without any problems.

    I call bullshit on the whole spill story. In fact, I think they did it just to make the Obama administration look bad. Yeah, that's it! Make a disaster they CAN'T fix, because it doesn't exist, then blame them for not fixing it fast enough. Bloody geniuses, I tell you!

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  19. Re:And this is a story why? by Huntr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'Shopping out glare is one thing. Adding in screens so you, according to you, look somehow busier, is a continuation of the slimy pattern of lies and half-truths these assholes have exhibited all along. No one is claiming this has anything to do with their environmental record directly. It is, however, another data point that reminds us we can't trust anything they say or do.

  20. Re:And this is a story why? by BasilBrush · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Adding in screens so you, according to you, look somehow busier

    Interesting word "somehow" you chose there. How indeed does looking at a bank of 10 screens make one "busier" than looking at a bank of 8 screens.

    Another interesting choice was the phrase "according to you", when neither the person you are replying to, nor BP made any claim of the photo representing "busy".

    So what the fuck do you think you are talking about?

  21. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by youn · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is slashdot my friend, people post mathematical equations about what women look like, hypothesise about the probability of running into one... heck a rare few have seen one once ... without make up? :)

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  22. Re:Who cares (You Should) by Required+Snark · · Score: 5, Interesting
    BP is acting like their major problem is PR. They are not acting like they have committed a major environmental disaster. They are trying to weasel there way out of responsibility in many ways, some of them truly evil. They are trying to silence scientists who might provide evidence against them in both civil and criminal proceedings http://blog.al.com/live/2010/07/bp_buys_up_gulf_scientists_for.html

    They are keeping legitimate news organizations away from key locations by pretending that it will interfere with the cleanup. (Just check NPR for reports on this.) They are hiring local off duty cops, IN UNIFORM to keep people from seeing what is going on. When the cop tells someone to leave, you have no idea if they are working as sworn officers of the law or stooges for BP (not that there is much difference). They are paying local fisherman to help in the clean up and exposing them to harmful substances, and keeping them quiet by threatening to kick them off the payroll if they talk to reporters, or tell anyone that they are getting ill from chemical exposure.

    Right after the explosion, they make rig workers sign papers saying they had no injuries BEFORE THEY LET THEM GET ON SHORE. They have consistently lied about how much oil was being released, because penalties are based on a per barrel amount. This is still in process, which is why they were trying to silence local scientists who would be able to provide evidence about how bad the spill is.

    I can't say that they have killed anyone, but they have bullied, lied and intimidated people to a disgusting degree. If you think this is OK, then I suggest you change places with someone who has their life ruined by corporate greed and then see how you feel. Yeah, a little PhotoShop tweaking is no big deal, but when it is a part of a pattern of law breaking and corruption then it is just one more fact that needs to be brought out to insure that the truth is not ignored.

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  23. Looking in image data for evidence. by w0mprat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    BP released the full version of the image they admit was shopped for style. Some claim this image is not of the 'HIVE' response center either and was taken in 2001. This version of the image shows indications on the monitors photographs that it was taken on 16/07/10. (See middle screen above white screen).

    http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/images/HIVE_houston01.jpg

    The clues are in the image metadata:

    Title: HIVE at Houston Command Center 16 July 2010
    Authors: Marc Morrison
    Date Taken: 06/03/2001 3:16 p.m.
    Program Name: Adobe Photoshop CS4 Macintosh

    OMG Fake? No... it also shows it was taken with a Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III ... now this 20 megapixel camera wasn't out until 2008, and certainly wasn't around in 2001.

    What is unexplained in this the large monitors in this shot are the window titles showing 'Microsoft Excel' but perhaps these are some custom Excel based application that BP uses to display the ROV video feeds.

    So frankly I find this whole event uninteresting. Someone didn't set the date stamp in a camera or a system somewhere along the way.

    This is not a isolated incident however, so why is BP photoshopping so many images and doing such a amateurish job of it? (Ok maybe that latter part needs no explanation).

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  24. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by noisyinstrument · · Score: 3, Funny

    You must be new here.

  25. Speaking as a Brit... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...I do not defend BP's handling of this or their utter incompetency.

    But why so little mention of Halliburton (= big American corporation) who were actually responsible for the drilling site?

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    1. Re:Speaking as a Brit... by Bemopolis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because if we were to publicly attack Halliburton, they might start charging us more to run the wars that we started for their benefit.

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    2. Re:Speaking as a Brit... by iamhigh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But why so little mention of Halliburton (= big American corporation) who were actually responsible for the drilling site?

      Because BP is responsible for the drilling site. The outsourced it to TransOcean, who hired Haliburton, who probably rented the equipment that installed the part that was made by a supplier in China.

      You can drill down to who was responsible for certain portions of this operation, but when the oil bubbles up, it belongs to BP.

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  26. Photoediting by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really wish people would stop using the term "Photoshopping". There are dozens of programs that can edit photos in such ways. I mean, we don't call it "Gimping", for example.

    I suggest the term "photoediting".... or even just "editing"...

    "BP Caught Photoediting Disaster Response Photos"
    "BP Caught Editing Disaster Response Photos"

    I know, "good luck with that"

  27. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by ndavis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ever seen a woman wear makeup...?

    More importantly, ever wake up next to her the next morning and seen the reality of the same face without makeup? Can be a scary thing sometimes, perhaps best left unseen.

    I have and I now only have one arm!

  28. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, as long as it's not in court, a company can tell lies... because most stories they tell about their products and business model are in the media basically for aesthetic purposes.

    In fact, commercials too are all about aesthetics.

    The point is that BP have done an awful lot of things for "aesthetic purposes" lately. Like changing a few numbers (flow of oil) in the media. Like predicting when it'd all be solved. Like saying that oil isn't dangerous.

    It's easy to do "aesthetics" if you have billions of profit to keep the logo looking green.

    How the hell is this modded insightful?

    a) They didn't give the flow number, that was your very own coast guard that gave the wildly wrong estimate.
    b) From the very beginning they started drilling relief wells, from the very beginning they said it would be mid august before they are ready, from the very beginning they said this will be the final solution and they will simply attempt all sorts of other methods of stopping the flow in the meantime.
    c) {citation needed} and not just some shitty blog either, every single press release from BP is available in full on their website. Show me where BP has officially said oil isn't that dangerous.

    Call it what it is, It's marketing. Everyone does it. I'm more disgusted that Microsoft photoshopped out black guy on their polish website. These pictures are just another crap job rather than some stupid conspiracy.

  29. Re:And this is a story why? by robbak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because it looked ugly. One of the screens was either all white, or had been badly hit by a reflection, and dominated the picture. They did a rush photochop, posted it, and got on with work. If it looked ugly, none of the news agents that they might have been producing it from would have used it. Plenty of reasons for a quick job

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  30. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by slack_justyb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, as long as it's not in court, a company can tell lies

    That's why we here on Slashdot are so confident about Microsoft's pledge to not sue Linux users for $INSERT_RANDOM_PATENT. Because, like BP, they have so much money that they don't need to lie.

    Seriously, if that's a question then the answer is a resounding, "yes!" Why would you believe anything a multi-billion dollar company would tell you? The only time you can actually buy what they're saying is when there are some legal repercussions for not telling the truth.

    It's not that giant companies are pure evil (unless you're Apple, Inc., then yes you are pure evil) it's just that they get so big that they have serious left-hand-not-knowing-what-right-hand-is-doing-itis. Which in turn falls back to filthy rich CEOs doing an incredibility shitty job at keeping people accountable for their actions. In the end thought it's really because we buy this isolation pile that heads of company's (hell even the heads of most Government's now) tend to use when crap hits the fan. You're in charge, all hell is breaking loose on your watch, you took a risk (directly or indirectly) and it turned out to be the undoing of all life in the Gulf of Mexico; now the only thing that should be going through your mind is how to leave your job in the best of light, after you are done with the relief well.

    I'm so tired of this, it's complicated and your little brain cannot understand it or it's an isolated event that will never happen again crap that we've been getting since 2008. At least here in the United States the last president was genuinely too stupid to relay the information to us.

    Sorry this rant could go on for a while... I'll just head over here and mumble in the corner.

  31. Re:Who cares (You Should) by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, the evidence is circumstantial; but they've sure lubricated a lot of blowholes in the past few months... That suggests intent.

  32. Re:2001 by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not necessarily 2001 -

    Sometimes hardware devices can create really weird dates. I have a music converter that produces stuff tagged as 2002.

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  33. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More importantly, ever wake up next to her the next morning and seen the reality of the same face without makeup?

    Yes, and it's been my experience that no amount of makeup will make an ugly woman look good. Ever notice how morbidly obese women wear tons of makeup as if it will cover up the fact that they're fat?

    Makeup will nake a good looking woman look better, and then only if it's applied right. Makeup won't help an ugly chick at all.

    Now, your being drunk will make an ugly woman look good, that's when you wake up sober the next morning and say "OMFG!!!!!! WHAT HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO?!?" But that's your bad, not hers.

  34. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by gorzek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've seen my share of women whose makeup makes them look worse than they would without it.

    Though I know there are no girls on Slashdot, here's a tip: if I can tell you're wearing makeup, you have already failed. Proper makeup application enhances beauty, it doesn't attempt to replace it.

  35. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by ctchristmas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I photoshopped myself next to one once, does that count?

  36. This is why media access is so important by mysidia · · Score: 2, Informative

    PR stands for public relations, i.e. public image protection, and not: People's Right to know.

    You cannot really ever trust a company covering their own relief/cleanup/repair efforts in an objective way. They have a vested interest in making themselves look as good as possible, while attributing any issues or setbacks, either to someone else, or to some "inherent difficulty", even if actually due to management failure.

  37. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by sjs132 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Women who false advertise? Not only no makeup in the morning, but:

    * no pushup bra so not as big as you thought
    * or you find out they are silicon induced (Still partly acceptable... ;)
    * no colored contacts so no blue eyes, just brown
    * maybe the fake nails are off
    * maybe the fake eyelashes are off
    * no platform or high-heel shoes, so about 2-4" shorter (or more)
    * no tummy tuck wrap, so she's got a gut
    * no trimming panties, so she's got waves of cellulite
    * botox lips
    * Silicon eyebrows

    deceptions... deceptions...

    But, is it a lie? Not really, unless she didn't tell you that she used to also be a guy or has a penis. THAT then, would be the lie.

    That is the real question for the BP photoshopping... Nope, The command center exists somewhere, and the topkill conference / meeting took place. Did they have to jazz up the pics for "marketing"? probably, just like every news anchor has a ton of makeup on camera. Would they have to try so hard if everyone wasn't demonizing them while doing their damn best to get it fixed? And folks believe they WANT to kill their customers and wildlife, etc? It was an ACCIDENT! Get over it.

    (No, I'm not saying they get a free pass, so don't read that into it... I'm saying they had to spin a little pr like everyone else. )

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  38. Who Cares? by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reading through the comments and seeing the deluge of "who cares" comments, I'm simply baffled. Who cares about a major corporation deceiving the public? Who cares about this deception occurring while the corporation is dealing with an ecological/public relations disaster? Who cares about a corporation being caught outright lying?

    Yeah. Who cares indeed. Let's invest our attention on finding a new reason to hate Apple instead - they are the new, cool target-of-hate, after all.

    Seriously, when I watch people come up with bullshit reasons to heap hatred upon a tech company at the same time that an oil company gets a free ride when caught outright deceiving the public, I'm left wondering what the hell is wrong with people.

    Mod me troll. Feel free. After all, who cares.

  39. Unless.... by SteveFoerster · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:Unless.... by gorzek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for linking a perfect example. She looks decent without makeup. With it, she looks completely fake. It's not subtle at all.

  40. Foreground laptop playing the sims? by kobaz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is it just me... or does the picture at:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/TEXJFhjMElI/AAAAAAAAFDk/Susb7Y6PP9I/s1600/fake_GOM_simops_operations_top_kill_houston.jpg

    have a laptop on the bottom left that's left running the sims... or sim city... or something like that?

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  41. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find in extraordinary that anybody could consider corporations lying as routine aesthetics. Why would any consider the individuals hiding behind the façade of a corporation have gained the moral right to lie to every person outside of the corporation.

    Substantive misrepresentation of company or product capabilities for one can 'illegally' alter the public's perception of the value of the company and artificially inflate it's share price. It is the responsibility of the regulatory to investigated artificial inflation of the company share prices especially when insiders start selling stock.

    Most countries have consumer protection agencies and in the event of sufficient registered consumer complaints they will investigate and if appropriate prosecute (don't forget to make formal complaints they count). Truth in advertising, it was tackled before by people in the fifties and sixties and it is pretty bloody obvious not enough was done. It is time that truth in advertising became a major political issue again so that it can be further tightened up, especially advertising as news B$ (lies for profit).

    The big thing about this story, lamed arsed British Petroleum, is too slack and stupid not to do a better job of it web PR=B$ efforts, it seems pretty obvious it needs to let go of it's current antiquated amateurish staff and replace them with some quality amoral professionals. There a many major corporations who all recognise the power and the danger of the internet, yet time and time again they show some real noob like efforts, you can't help but imagine all those BP marketdroids sitting in a office together nodding and agreeing with each others brilliance, wiping white powder off their noses as they launch yet another ill fated marketing stunt.

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  42. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Though I know there are no girls on Slashdot, here's a tip: if I can tell you're wearing makeup, you have already failed. Proper makeup application enhances beauty, it doesn't attempt to replace it.

    The same can be said for perfume. The intent of perfume is to make someone want to get closer to smell it. If you bath in it such that everyone can smell you in a 40x40 room then it implies you're trying to hide an oder which will make the average male puke. And if you can be smelled 40 feet away, there is no incentive to want to get closer. In fact, it will likely drive people away who get too close.

    In fact, it wasn't so long ago that such actions would label you a whore. After all, only a whore need cover the oder of sex with fifty men; as there isn't a need to otherwise smell so strongly. A subtle oder is much desired to attract a potential mate.

    Like most good things, moderation is key!

    One last tip! Frequently change your perfume. Constant use of the same perfume causes your nose to effectively filter the constant source of over stimulation. As a result, women who constantly wear the same perfume almost always wear far, far too much because they can no longer effectively tell how strong the oder.

    In a nut shell, DON'T SMELL LIKE A WHORE! Its not attractive!

    Oh ya, some men could certainly learn from this as well!

  43. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Makeup won't help an ugly chick at all.

    Not true. Just add dim lighting and alcohol.

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  44. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, and it's been my experience that no amount of makeup will make an ugly woman look good. Ever notice how morbidly obese women wear tons of makeup as if it will cover up the fact that they're fat?

    I'll go you one better. I just got back from my 20th high school reunion. The girls who were nice and fun to be around in high school were - without exception - attractive and young-looking. Some had, um, eaten well, but they were still pretty and had contagious smiles.

    The girls who were spiteful and snotty in high school were - without exception - unattractive and worn. Some had nice figures but their faces where creased with scowl lines and crows feet.

    Lesson learned: "good personality" is a much better makeup than anything you can buy in a store. It lasts a lot longer.

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  45. Re:Who cares?? Well, I care! by omnichad · · Score: 2, Informative

    Another example of "aesthetics" would be the chemical dispersants used to hide the oil spill below the surface of the water.

  46. Re:What a ridiculous story by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    BP is just the liberals' whipping boy right now. They are riding it as hard as they can to drive hits to their worthless whiny blogs.

    Oh yes, THAT'S all this is about.

    You're clearly not quite used to having a full brain to work with, but don't fret. You'll figure it out eventually, but until you do, try to slow down. Telling the difference between those M's and W's can be really tough on the newbies.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2173965
    http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v10/n10/abs/nn1979.html

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