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Android Users Aren't As Disloyal As Reported
ergo98 writes "As we discussed recently, a CNN article had a statement that '77% of iPhone owners say they'll buy another iPhone, compared to 20% of Android customers who say they'll buy another Android phone.' This was a gross misrepresentation. The CNN story now has up this note: 'Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that 20% of Android customers say they'll buy another Android phone. The survey actually revealed that 20% of all smartphone customers say they'll buy an Android phone.' The Yankee Group has further sought to clarify the situation by saying that the 20% are people who explicitly said they would buy a 'Google-branded' phone (which excludes the overwhelming majority of popular Android phones) — as Google gets out of the business of selling branded phones. Summarizing their position on Android: 'Yankee Group still believes that Android will become the next breakout mobile phone platform, making it the third most popular platform behind iPhone and RIM's Blackberry in installed base for at least the next five years.'"
Someone here got accused of confirmation bias for doubting the study.
by gyrogeerloose (849181)
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on Saturday July 24, @06:08PM (#33016628)
Who did they ask? People inside of Apple's campus.. You've got to be kidding me.
Got to love it--some research challenges your preconceived notions so, of course, the only thing to do is reconsider said notions, right?
Wrong. Better to disparage the research than admit they might have been incorrect.
Come on, parent is not a troll. (Score:3, Insightful)
by Abcd1234 (188840)
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on Saturday July 24, @06:17PM (#33016700) Homepage
In fact, he nailed it spot on. The GP doesn't like the conclusions of the study, so he just assumes the study or the researchers are wrong. It's an excellent illustration of confirmation bias (or, in this case, its inverse).
Maybe it was actually confirmation bias from the said Apple fan, that Android was so disliked and hence he got taken in by the false report?
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It's as if millions of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
Not only did I not trust Yankee Group's numbers before, but now I realize they asked an ignorant question about "google branded" phones? What the hell sense does that have in a comparison between iPhones and Android phones? I'll be sure to consider immediately discarding any statistics released by "Yankee Group" in the future, because they could have just "accidentally" forgot to mention some important detail. Ridiculous.
I know a number of people who have "that cool phone" or "the phone I saw on that tv show". They dont know its Android since thats not really a brand name. This is expounded by how different the UI elements are on different brands Android phones. HTC looks quite different from Motorola (stupid moto-blur) and so on. Some manufacturers are even rebranding Google funconality, see the "Genius Button".
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
In fact it is the only technological device she doesn't constantly complain about. The way it is going she will get a new phone of the same type when this one comes off contract.
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Why would you need two phones?
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A lot of people automatically associate Android with Google because the first line of Android-capable phones (G1, Hero, myTouch3G) were marketed that way. In fact, I think the release of the Droid on Verizon officially put a stop to that trend, but I'm not entirely sure about that. Thus, I'd say that surveying how many are likely to get Google-branded phones is a pretty reasonable indicator of how well Android is doing in the marketplace.
Nonetheless, even though Android doesn't seem to be getting a lot of love lately (or at least according to this survey), the thing to keep in mind is that Android's market presence has become notably stronger since the G1 came out. I honestly think that from a phone perspective, the Nexus One had serious potential to realistically compete with the iPhone (3GS) behemoth, considering that it's similar to the iPhone while offering a completely different, and completely usable, experience at a lower price. It's a shame that Google (and T-Mobile!) didn't promote the phone as actively as they could have; it had TONS of potential. Look at how well the Droid's doing on Verizon! (Yes, the Samsung Galaxy S line is much more feature-rich, but it's a toy. The Nexus One was a statement...and a damned good looking one.)
Let's put it this way: at least it's not just Blackberry and Windows Mobile anymore!
This is a marketing strategy known as the Push Poll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll).
You ask the questions in such a way as to get the answer you want.
I really disappointed that Google is going to stop selling handsets. I was waiting for a Nexus Two.
I want a phone that has a pure (plain?) Android experience. I don't want the layers that Motorola and HTC add to differentiate themselves, not to mention all the bloatware. It wouldn't bother me so much if I was able to reformat a phone in the same way I can reformat a Dell or HP machine to clear off all the crap, but as far as I know, I can't.
Buy whatever phone you like and shut up about it.
I'd like to think that as well, but they do seem to enjoy it.
The CNN article only told half the story.
Simple, the article is written by an Apple fanboi who is trying to find some way to skew things in Apple's favor.
Apple has 28% of the smartphone market, Android has 9%. 20% of ALL smartphone users say they are going to buy Android for their next phone. In other words, even if 100% of iPhone owners were saying they'd buy another IPhone the numbers indicate Android will soon overtake the IPhone in marketshare.
But they don't, only 77% say they intend to stick with the IPhone, indicating that while android should rise to 29% apple will drop from 28%.
The Yankee Group has been a microsoft shil for years!
Do the math.
I'm not sure how much of a "group" they are. After all, they have more directors and officers than "analysts." Still I'm sure the microsoft money is good.. http://www.yankeegroup.com/listAnalysts.do
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It's the statistical equivalent of the question:
"Do you walk to school or bring your lunch"?
You are welcome on my lawn.
I think your math is a bit off
20% of all smartphone users say they are going to buy Android, including current Android owners. Pretending for a second that people actually do what they say they'll do and that everybody upgrades their phones at the same time, Android would get 20% of the market.
We know that 77% of current iPhone users will buy another one but we don't know about how many the other 72% of smartphone users will buy iPhones. So all we know is that at least 21% (28% * 77%) of current smart phone owners will buy an iPhone, but it's likely to be much higher.
The maths is all a bit off, unknown survey, with unknown breakdown, using unknown group, says 15 percent of cows jump over the moon (not maths that wrong). Seriously your playing with numbers from a survey with undeclared methods, you have got to be joking.
The reality is the majority of smart phone users will end up going with Android for two main reasons, lots of hardware choice (including a lot of cheaper hardware), service supplier choice and of course 'free' application choice. Google only ever produced it's own branded phone to kick up interest in Android, once that was done and it did work really well, they dropped it.
Even the android demo on PC under windows is popular, hopefully Google will produce a 'one click' download and install so that more people can more readily play with it (rather a smack in M$'s nose if people really like it and continue to use is as a app). The Apple market'droids' are working overtime pretending to be fanbois and it isn't really working and is really starting to become rather distasteful.
Apple has some really creative people, perhaps it is time to shift to a web focus and show M$ how a better company can creative a far more successful version of MSN under another name, hmm, how about, the 'core' ;).
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Google branded does not mean it's a Google phone. All HTC Android phones are Google branded (not just the N1). Verizon Droids are Google branded.