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The Fuel Cost of Obesity

thecarchik writes "America loves to complain about gas mileage and the cost of gasoline. As it turns out, part of the problem is us. How much does it really matter? A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found a 1.1 percent increase in self-reported obesity, which translates into extra weight that your vehicle has to haul around. The study estimates that 1 billion extra gallons of fuel were needed to compensate for passenger weight gained between 1960 and 2002."

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  1. Less than one percent... by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One key finding was that almost 1 billion gallons of gasoline per year can be attributed to passenger weight gain in non-commercial vehicles between 1960 and 2002--this translates to .7 percent of the total fuel used by passenger vehicles annually.

    So they found it had nearly nothing to do with it. Spiffy.

    1. Re:Less than one percent... by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      before SUV's and mini vans we had station wagons and muscle cars. generally cars are a lot more efficient today. my 4 cylinder 2009 Accord has as much horse power as my old 1992 V8 firebird. and it has a lot more electric gizmos for pollution control as well as comfort

    2. Re:Less than one percent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to mention lots of people haul around tons of useless junk in their trunks (no pun intended) that adds to vehicle weight, as well as the assumption that more people drive alone nowadays as opposed to carpooling.

    3. Re:Less than one percent... by hamburger+lady · · Score: 4, Insightful

      methinks the fuel that went into the growing, processing and shipping of all the extra food obese americans stuff down their pieholes is gonna account for a more substantive share than this.

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    4. Re:Less than one percent... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ??!? Huh?

      Let's see.. 1975 :

      VW bug 40mpg
      Pinto : 34mpg
      Plymouth Duster :23 mpg

      3 of the MOST POPULAR cars in 1975. I.E. there was a crapload of them on the road, more than the SuperBee and Charger musclecars by a 60 to 1 ratio.

      Sorry but fuel economy has went NOWHERE over the past 35 years. we had cars getting 20-s to 40mpg forever here in the usa and the bulk of people did not drive Musclecars and the Land-Yacht station wagons with giant big block V8's with 6 pack carbeurators.

      Todays cars are more complex. they are NOT more efficient. In fact if you are trying to build yourself a high gas mileage car in the garage you will have a easier time of it if you go carbeurator instead of fuel injection.

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    5. Re:Less than one percent... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your 2007 mustang is made from tinfoil and packing tape. the 1970 mustang was made from 3/4" plate steel, concrete, and lead. PLUS the engine was intentionally detuned. Those engines can be easily woke up to do 1HP per CuInch, your 2007 mustang is at the top of it's horsepower capabilities without adding a supercharger or turbo. a 1970 458 big block can easily reach 1000HP with a supercharger.

      big difference.

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    6. Re:Less than one percent... by morari · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and it has a lot more electric gizmos for pollution control as well as comfort

      More gizmos to cause problems and break, you mean.

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    7. Re:Less than one percent... by n8r0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Huh? Are you kidding? No, cars are not more efficient today. Since the mid-80s, average fuel economy of cars in the united states has increased by about 1 mpg. Is 1 mpg what you call "a lot"?

      Seriously. How does stuff like this getted modded up?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Average_Fuel_Economy

    8. Re:Less than one percent... by mobby_6kl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The old Mustang might be made from 3/4" (whatever that is in real unites) steel, but it's a fucking deathtrap compared to any relatively modern car, including the 2007 mustang. Also, the old, especially pre-'72, HP measurements were pretty much bullshit.

  2. How about by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    offsetting this by the fuel savings coming from reduced family size. People simply have fewer children on average than they used to.

    Wow you really can make numbers say anything you want. Remember that thanks to all the SUV's, the weight of the average car has increased since the 60's, not decreased as you would expect from losing the chassis and moving to a monocoque design.

    But hey, let's bash fat people. How about that fat tax?

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    1. Re:How about by sznupi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They do need larger (wider, most importantly) car to feel comfortable...so yeah, it's not only weight increses of passangers, also cars; perhaps partly because the average comfortable size lies somewhat higher.

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    2. Re:How about by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plenty of people are still buying SUVs... and when the economy recovers, I think we'll see SUVs make a bigger comeback.

      Probably not. The *only* reason oil prices are low now ($70-$80/barrel) is because of the global recession. As soon as thinks pick back up, expect to see oil at $100/barrel *at least*.

    3. Re:How about by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You said the magic word, and made it a "safety" issue. Bravo.

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  3. Reality Check by painandgreed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The study estimates that 1 billion extra gallons of fuel

    Less than what the US could save by making sure their tires are properly inflated (1.25 billion). let alone what we could save by cleaning out our trunks, removing our winter bags of sand, or other weight just sitting around in the car. Both are much easier than getting people to lose weight, but I doubt if they are getting done. Good luck on getting people to stop being obese to save an non-detectable part of their gas bill. For that matter, it would probably be easier just to appeal to get them to keep from diving as much (which if they walk or bike would also cut into the obese issue).

  4. I know something by Eversor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know something that America loves to complain about more than fuel prices. Fat Americans. Get over yourself.

  5. I'm sequestering carbon by Linux_ho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you have any idea how much carbon I've sequestered in fat? Get off my roly poly back.

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  6. american fuel prices by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 3, Insightful

    America has one of the cheapest fuel prices in the world. Stop complaining. it's about 6-7$ a gallon here.

    1. Re:american fuel prices by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That'd be because you tax the hell out of it.

    2. Re:american fuel prices by Thelasko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      America has one of the cheapest fuel prices in the world.

      That's bull and you know it. Kuwait, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and Venezuela all pay less than $1 per gallon.*

      *Based on some really old CNN Money article. Prices may have changed, but I doubt very much.

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    3. Re:american fuel prices by Synon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      America has one of the cheapest fuel prices in the world. Stop complaining. it's about 6-7$ a gallon here.

      Cheapest? Hardly. Venezuela sells gas for 12 cents a gallon, it's cheaper than water. Each country imposes different taxes on fuel, some countries (like Venezuela) will even subsidize it. Just because our fuel is cheaper than yours doesn't mean it's some of the "cheapest in the world", far from it.

    4. Re:american fuel prices by Ichijo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That'd be because you tax the hell out of it.

      If we (Americans) were to internalize all the negative externalities into the price of gasoline, how much would it cost? Add $20 per ton of CO2, which comes to 19 cents per gallon, for global warming. Add in the cost of air pollution, up to $1600 per person annually. Because gas taxes and user fees only make up 65% of the cost of the roads, add the other 35% into the cost of gasoline. And so on.

      With all the externalities added to the price of gasoline, I think we would see gas prices similar to Europe's, and we would find that their gas taxes are more fair than ours.

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  7. Extra Extra, read all about it! by djdbass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Adding 42 years worth of data results in big number!

  8. The Cost of Cheap Gasoline by handy_vandal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The cost of (relatively) cheap gasoline? War, war, and more war. That cheap gasoline is only cheap because we're willing to bankrupt ourselves to get it.

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  9. Here is a modest proposal! by lupinstel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We can melt down all the fatties and use them as bio-diesel.

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  10. Re:So now we know. by nschubach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because the government subsidizes corn, so it's cheaper to use than cane/beat sugar... I'm sure there's more than enough politics behind it (and now a national dependence) that it's not going to go away anytime soon.

    We've all been forced(?) into consuming HFCS in just about everything from soft drinks to breads. Recently McDs has been selling sweet tea with sugar in it and I've found that if I drink one without eating I tend to get what I can only describe as light headed and I have to eat something to calm it down. I'm sure I have diabetes creeping up on me though. Of course, that's a lot of sugar for one drink so I don't have them often. ;)

    Enjoy what you have!

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  11. Re:Let's have Fair Flying by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You would have to take height into consideration as well, I'm a 6'2 male, I'm always going to weigh more than a healthy 5'8 female and there is nothing I can do about that.

  12. Re:Fat People burn less fuel by symes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would imagine that one reason fat guys are fat is precisely because they drive everywhere. Last time I was in California I made the heretical suggstion that we walk the, approx, 1 mile to the beach rather than drive. "No one walks here!" was the reply, so we stuffed the dog into the car to go to the beach to walk the dog and then drove home. Seriously. Closer to home, I see people in the gym running for ages on the treadmill - why didn't they just run to the gym rather than drive? It is madness. Someone did a neat well designed study where they got some office people to use the stairs rather than the lift - this small additional excercise had profound effects in the long term on cholestoerol, chubbiness and just plain feeling good. We seem to be in a lazy world. Personally, I ride my bicycle to work and back (about 8 miles one way), I get there faster than by car in rush hour, I feel good, and just love buzzing past the caged masses stuck in traffic, and there's no problem parking. For sure, the sick and disabled need notorised transport - but why are people allowed to become sick and disabled through laziness? Why isn't there a cure? We can save their lives, reduce their weight, and save fuel.

  13. Re:So? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Although 1B gals sounds like a lot, consider that Wiki says the US alone used 138B of gas in 2006. So saving 1B gals over the course of 20 years globally is a relative drop in the bucket.

    Yeah I probably could cycle to work every day for the rest of my life, but I won't since it's just a relative drop in the bucket.
    I could replaceall the halogens in my house with energy saving bulbs, but I only use 4kWh which in terms of the entire suburb is just a relative drop in the bucket.
    Australia could build a new Nuclear power stations instead of Brown Coal power stations, but with China on the rise it's just a relative drop in the bucket.

    Every time I read a comment like yours I realise that people don't get it. There's a finite number of drops in the bucket. Removing one alone does nothing appreciable. But if you start removing many of these tiny drops pretty soon you'll find the bucket is starting to empty. This isn't a 1B saving over 20 years. This is an ADDITIONAL 1B saving over 20 years.

    Though admittedly fat people die younger, and may have difficulty breeding so that's probably good for the environment.

  14. Re:Let's have Fair Flying by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why? You weigh what you weigh

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  15. Re:Bicycle by dr2chase · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mod parent, grandparent up. Over the entire US, sure, 1% amounts to a lot of gas, but 1% is nothing compared with what you can save on a bike. I put 2500 miles/year on mine, displacing about 25-30% of what would ordinarily be driving (and crappy, city-ish driving, too). 1/3 of us live in communities at least as dense as Dutch towns (with 40% ride share), WTF is wrong with us?

    Helps with flaky joints, helps with flexibility, too.