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The Fuel Cost of Obesity

thecarchik writes "America loves to complain about gas mileage and the cost of gasoline. As it turns out, part of the problem is us. How much does it really matter? A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found a 1.1 percent increase in self-reported obesity, which translates into extra weight that your vehicle has to haul around. The study estimates that 1 billion extra gallons of fuel were needed to compensate for passenger weight gained between 1960 and 2002."

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  1. Less than one percent... by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One key finding was that almost 1 billion gallons of gasoline per year can be attributed to passenger weight gain in non-commercial vehicles between 1960 and 2002--this translates to .7 percent of the total fuel used by passenger vehicles annually.

    So they found it had nearly nothing to do with it. Spiffy.

    1. Re:Less than one percent... by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      before SUV's and mini vans we had station wagons and muscle cars. generally cars are a lot more efficient today. my 4 cylinder 2009 Accord has as much horse power as my old 1992 V8 firebird. and it has a lot more electric gizmos for pollution control as well as comfort

    2. Re:Less than one percent... by natehoy · · Score: 4, Informative

      We probably don't. Any round number like that is suspicious to start with.

      However, your observation does lead to a good point. Extra vehicle weight, and other factors, do affect fuel mileage.

      Every pound you add to your vehicle (whether it be lard or steel) reduces your fuel mileage by some small percentage (especially in city driving). Every item you add to your vehicle that interferes with the smooth flow of air around your vehicle also has the same effect, including roof racks, etc (especially in highway driving). Fast starts and heavy acceleration also have a significant effect, as does driving very fast (these two often add to maintenance costs, as well, and apply to both city AND highway).

      These "little things" have a way of adding up to a measurable amount of money at the end of the year.

      To keep the math easy, take a 20MPG pickup with $2/gallon fuel. That's ten cents a mile for fuel. If you drive 10,000 miles a year, fuel for that vehicle will cost you $1,000.

      For every 10% (2MPG) increase or decrease, you are looking at an approximate additional expense or savings of $100 per year. So adding those cargo racks to the back of the truck just cost you the cost of the racks, plus $50-100 a year as an ongoing expense in lost fuel. If you don't need them, take them off. Or spend a few bucks on the ones that fold down out of the way.

      Carrying around 200 pounds of bricks in your trunk for a month when it never snowed at all just cost you $5, which you could have saved by removing them until snow was forecast. Putting your studded snow tires on two months before it started snowing cost you $10 and made you put a couple thousand miles of wear on a set of studded snows that are a lot more expensive per mile than regular tires.

      Racing off the line to beat the other guy in the shinier car to the merge cost you a between a dime and a half a dollar.

      You saved $100 on a set of tires, but are annoyed because they are a tad noisier than you had hoped for. Guess what? That noise probably means the tires have higher rolling resistance, and over the 30,000 mile lifetime of those tires you'll end up spending $200 more in fuel to run them. Run them underinflated for a while and they'll wear out faster and cost you even more fuel.

      Each of these things cost you money. Money you could use to buy other things if you wanted to.

      Whether you choose to spend it on them is, of course, your decision. But it's a good idea to think about them.

      Think about that the next time you are first in line at a red light, the lane merges ahead, and you've got some dude in a fancy car who wants to play. Do you want to be first? Glue a quarter on the dashboard near the redline indicator to remind you that it costs money. Spend it if you want, but be aware you are spending it.

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    3. Re:Less than one percent... by hamburger+lady · · Score: 4, Insightful

      methinks the fuel that went into the growing, processing and shipping of all the extra food obese americans stuff down their pieholes is gonna account for a more substantive share than this.

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    4. Re:Less than one percent... by mobby_6kl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The old Mustang might be made from 3/4" (whatever that is in real unites) steel, but it's a fucking deathtrap compared to any relatively modern car, including the 2007 mustang. Also, the old, especially pre-'72, HP measurements were pretty much bullshit.

  2. How about by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    offsetting this by the fuel savings coming from reduced family size. People simply have fewer children on average than they used to.

    Wow you really can make numbers say anything you want. Remember that thanks to all the SUV's, the weight of the average car has increased since the 60's, not decreased as you would expect from losing the chassis and moving to a monocoque design.

    But hey, let's bash fat people. How about that fat tax?

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    1. Re:How about by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I was on a flight recently, sitting in my window seat and getting settled while the plane was still loading, when a guy came trundling down the aisle who was around 6' tall and at least 300lbs+. Turns out he was my seatmate. It was only a short flight, so as he shoved his gear into the overhead I did my best to adopt a buddhist mindset and accept the fact there would be a little encroachment into my space for the next hour or so.

      Turns out this guy wasn't happy with a little encroachment and he wanted to raise the armrest between our seats - said he can't fit comfortably between the armrests and needs to raise the middle one whenever he flies. I politely told him I'd be more comfortable with the armrest down and that I'm sure we'd be able to figure it out. He decided he needed to "stand his ground" and said there's no way he can sit - even for a short flight - with the armrest down. As more and more passengers lined up behind him (I was in seat 8A IIRC, on a plane with 24 or 25 rows), the flight attendant eventually got involved and asked what was going on. I stayed polite, but told her that I bought the same coach class seat as the other guy, and that I need to keep the armrest down for my own comfort and safety.

      The FA told the guy he'd either have to sit in his assigned seat with the armrest between us down, or he could move to the last row of the plane and have 2 seats all to himself (she said the flight was "almost full but not quite"). You should have seen the glare this guy gave me as he took his bag back out of the overhead and trekked off down to the last row of the plane. Screw him - I paid for 1.0 seats. I'm willing to accept 0.9 but I'm not going to cheerfully smile and accept 0.6 for the next couple hours.

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  3. They see me by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 3, Funny

    ridin' Obese; they hatin'.

  4. Re:So? by _LORAX_ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bad summary. 1B gals/year is quotes in the article.

  5. Reality Check by painandgreed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The study estimates that 1 billion extra gallons of fuel

    Less than what the US could save by making sure their tires are properly inflated (1.25 billion). let alone what we could save by cleaning out our trunks, removing our winter bags of sand, or other weight just sitting around in the car. Both are much easier than getting people to lose weight, but I doubt if they are getting done. Good luck on getting people to stop being obese to save an non-detectable part of their gas bill. For that matter, it would probably be easier just to appeal to get them to keep from diving as much (which if they walk or bike would also cut into the obese issue).

  6. I know something by Eversor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know something that America loves to complain about more than fuel prices. Fat Americans. Get over yourself.

  7. I'm sequestering carbon by Linux_ho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you have any idea how much carbon I've sequestered in fat? Get off my roly poly back.

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  8. american fuel prices by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 3, Insightful

    America has one of the cheapest fuel prices in the world. Stop complaining. it's about 6-7$ a gallon here.

    1. Re:american fuel prices by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That'd be because you tax the hell out of it.

  9. The Cost of Cheap Gasoline by handy_vandal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The cost of (relatively) cheap gasoline? War, war, and more war. That cheap gasoline is only cheap because we're willing to bankrupt ourselves to get it.

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  10. Here is a modest proposal! by lupinstel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We can melt down all the fatties and use them as bio-diesel.

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  11. Let's have Fair Flying by heretic108 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Airlines could do a lot to reduce carbon emissions, and also encourage better public health, by requiring passengers at checkin to stand on a large weighing platform along with their bags, and pay for the total weight. I strenuously object to subsidising the fares of obese people.

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  12. Re:So now we know. by nschubach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because the government subsidizes corn, so it's cheaper to use than cane/beat sugar... I'm sure there's more than enough politics behind it (and now a national dependence) that it's not going to go away anytime soon.

    We've all been forced(?) into consuming HFCS in just about everything from soft drinks to breads. Recently McDs has been selling sweet tea with sugar in it and I've found that if I drink one without eating I tend to get what I can only describe as light headed and I have to eat something to calm it down. I'm sure I have diabetes creeping up on me though. Of course, that's a lot of sugar for one drink so I don't have them often. ;)

    Enjoy what you have!

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  13. Go crash your Pinto and Beetle by Shivetya · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fuel economy has done well, not as good as it might have, but gasoline engine improvements are measured in percents.

    When you start with an inefficient process your not going to get remarkable numbers without some major innovation.

    Direct injection, turbo charging, start/stop, and other technologies are helping. Yet cars are heavier now because of all the creature comforts we desire and all the government regulations demanding the vehicles transmit the minimal amount of energy to the occupants in a crash.

    Crashes that would have killed everyone in your example vehicles and left a vehicle barely recognizable now leave occupants nearly untouched and with some vehicles actually repairable.

    Crashes that could not be avoided in your cars these days can be. Situations that were dangerous to drive in are very much less so.

    No cars have come far, the race between efficiency and safety is erring to the side of safety.

    While people throw out the bogeymen of SUVs and the like they ignore the fact that the majority of sedans get crap mileage as well.

    Old beetles usually did 28 to 32 on the highway, took almost twenty seconds to reach 60. You could probably crash an infinite number of them into a new beetle before the new one was not drivable. You of course would have a lot of scrap old beetles laying around afterward.

    Taking the mileage out of context does not make your argument better except at a cursory glance.

    Frankly I would not dare drive most older cars everyday. Their brakes were horrid and their suspensions not much better.

    As for the carb versus fuel injection comparison, get real. What you can do with direct injection shames a carb in both efficiency and pollution.

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  14. Re:So? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Although 1B gals sounds like a lot, consider that Wiki says the US alone used 138B of gas in 2006. So saving 1B gals over the course of 20 years globally is a relative drop in the bucket.

    Yeah I probably could cycle to work every day for the rest of my life, but I won't since it's just a relative drop in the bucket.
    I could replaceall the halogens in my house with energy saving bulbs, but I only use 4kWh which in terms of the entire suburb is just a relative drop in the bucket.
    Australia could build a new Nuclear power stations instead of Brown Coal power stations, but with China on the rise it's just a relative drop in the bucket.

    Every time I read a comment like yours I realise that people don't get it. There's a finite number of drops in the bucket. Removing one alone does nothing appreciable. But if you start removing many of these tiny drops pretty soon you'll find the bucket is starting to empty. This isn't a 1B saving over 20 years. This is an ADDITIONAL 1B saving over 20 years.

    Though admittedly fat people die younger, and may have difficulty breeding so that's probably good for the environment.