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Preserving Memories of a Loved One?

An anonymous reader writes "My wife is dying of metastatic (stage 4) cancer. Statistically she has between one and two years left. I have pre-teen daughters. I'm looking for innovative ideas on how to preserve memories of their mother and my wife so that years down the road we don't forget the things we all tend to forget about a person as time passes. I have copious photos and am taking as much HD video as I can without being a jerk, so images and sounds are taken care of (and backed up securely). I'm keeping a private blog of simple daily events that help me remember the things in between the hospitalizations and treatments. In this digital age what other avenues are there for preserving memories? Non-digital suggestions would be welcome, too."

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  1. Thoughts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry to hear about your wife's condition. Truly.

    For your daughters, I would recommend that your wife starts a diary, recording her thoughts. The little things, the big things. Looking at video and pictures is one thing, experiencing the feelings of a loved one as they wrote it is another. Together they may give your children something to look back upon for the rest of their lives.

    1. Re:Thoughts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Store these mementos forever.

      But also realize that you simply can't hold on to her, and trying to hold on will increase the intensity and duration of your pain.

      Memories are supposed to fade over time. Whether we like it or not, the fading helps us to heal, and to face the future.

      As happy a place as the past is, it is unhealthy to try and live there forever.

      Keep the mementos, but don't fall in love with them.

    2. Re:Thoughts. by Mister+Kay · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I also agree, and I'd like to add a recommendation to include that she records advice she would like to give the children later in life. It might be less emotionally draining for the children if it's in a written form, but more impactful if it's in some video or audio format. I know there's lots of things I wish I could learn from ancestors who passed away while I was young and I'll never have the chance now.

    3. Re:Thoughts. by holden+caufield · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I definitely agree with the AC here. Before I say anymore, I'll preface the rest of my comments with extending my sympathies for the situation you find yourselves in, as well as to suggest I have no real experience with anything remotely similar, so my advice is meant in good faith.

      That being said, I recommend taking a few minutes to listen to the "This American Life" episode where a mother dying of a terminal disease left letters for her young daughter to be read annually. From the story's description, "At first the letters were comforting, but as time went on, they had much more complicated effects."

      You can stream the episode from http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/401/parent-trap (I'm recommending the "Letter Day Saint" act 1 story).

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    4. Re:Thoughts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would like to offer a different opinion.

      Instead of worrying about remembering her later just to do your best to be with her now and do whatever you can to make her limited time better.

      Stop with the videos and photos. She's not going to want to be remembered in this state. You and your kids aren't going to forget all about her when she's gone.

  2. Interview with question/answers by Aargau · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd go with a formal interview to complement the daily life recording, to preserve for the kids a sense of how she felt on major issues, philosophy, personal achievements, things that might not come up when recording a daily routine.

    1. Re:Interview with question/answers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Record her talking about how she felt when she met you; when and how you proposed, your wedding day, your honeymoon.

      Record her feelings when she found out she was pregnant with each daughter, and when they were born.

      Record what she loves about each of you individually and the ways in which each of your daughters reminds her of herself. Having that identity link is so important (my parents died when I was young as well).

      Also consider having close friends and relatives record their memories while they are fresh.

      It may require a few takes to get this done without tears but I feel that's important.

  3. Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Non Digital: Handprints in clay...

  4. Don't lose out on experiencing her life with her by elgo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know you want to preserve her memory for your kids... but there's only so much you can do, and apparently only a limited amount of time left. If you spend too much of your time simply documenting her life, you may one day regret not spending more one-on-one time with her, unencumbered by things like worrying about videotaping and documenting every last second. No matter what, you will have regrets, but you should spend quality time with her while she is here, and not worry so much about documentation. This is all part of life - it sounds like you may have already done enough documentation for the time being, and perhaps now you should allow yourself and your kids to actually experience her as she is. Memories become distorted but still there is no substitute for real experience.

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  5. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The best thing I had from some older relatives (now gone) were CDs of them telling stories. One of my cousins took the time to get a few of the aunts and uncles together on the phone and asked a few questions to get them to reminisce. After a few minutes they forgot about the tape recorder and began really talking to each other. That set of CDs one of the nicest remembrances I have of them. My wife wishes she had done this with her parents. They grew up during the great depression and had a lot of interesting stories on the way things were and tales of every day living. Unfortunately her mom developed Parkinson's and lost the ability to speak clearly, and her dad died of a sudden heart attack, so we lost all this oral history, as well as the sound of their voice.

  6. Don't Do It by Laebshade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People die, life moves on. Detailing her daily life so that you can remember everything will keep you from doing that. Instead, make a log of your important memories with her, and work on making new ones that you and her can cherish for the rest of her life.

    1. Re:Don't Do It by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well said. Memories are supposed to fade. It's part of how we cope with loss.

  7. Don't record your life, live it. by Atypical+Geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, you are wasting your time behind a camera. There is no innovative technological solution to immortalizing the dead. Everyone who suffers that kind of loss winds up forgetting, and later recalling little moments.

    Take a cue from the movie 'Up'. Keep photos and cherished items. Use the tokens you preserve to jog your memory once in a while. But spend the time you have left with your wife fully engaged and enjoying every tiny slice of life as much as you can.

  8. Re:Don't lose out on experiencing her life with he by JustDisGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No mod points, but this ^^^^^.

    I lost my wife when we were 37. She went out visiting one night, and never came home.

    Spend the time you have left with your wife, and the children with their mother *creating memories*, and not memorabilia.

    I'm sorry for your family, that you have to go through this when the kids are so young. Be strong, man.

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  9. Re:put some footprints in concrete by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a small bench in front of one of the grave markers at the local cemetary.

    When you sit on the bench, you see that the grave marker, runnig the length of the bench, lies where the feet would rest. One one side of the marker is an adult-sized pair of shoeprints, on the other side is a child-sized pair of shoeprints.

    The grave marker instructs the sitter to sit down and tell the deceased child a story.

    *sniff*

  10. Re:Personally by quickOnTheUptake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have copious photos and am taking as much HD video as I can without being a jerk, so images and sounds are taken care of (and backed up securely).

    I'm not going to go to the extreme of the parent, but it sounds like you are spending a lot of time trying frantically to freeze your wife forever. I'v never been through something like this, but maybe everyone would get more out of it if you just--i don't know--forget that she is dying and spend as much natural time with her as you can. Then you (and your kids) will have memories of Mom as she was when she was happy with her family, rather than hours of video with an elephant in the room.

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  11. Re:Nobody needs die of cancer any more by Dan541 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People like you disgust me. It's bad enough that the OP is losing his wife without scumbags like you trying to bilk him out of money.

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  12. Some ideas by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Without being overbearing, now is the time to ask questions and make a permanent record of memories she has of her childhood; her experiences are what made her the person she is today, and this type of thing will really help other family members understand her a bit better. And once the person has passed away, this is otherwise almost completely lost unless an old acquaintance takes pity on you (and that's really not something to count on.)

    I put together one of the deepest family genealogy sites on the net for my family - many thousands of well researched individuals going back to the early 1500's - and if there's one thing I've learned, it's ask [whatever] before someone passes on, or you'll probably never know.

    And you know what? People are usually pretty happy to tell you the story of their life; all you have to do is ask questions and be a good listener. From the standpoint of your kids and later descendants, just add making a record. If photos are involved, make sure you carefully associate the stories with the photos.

    Also from a genealogical standpoint, make sure you know as much as she does about her family connections. This information is all too easily lost.

    You say you're making HD video; I suggest you make some audio recordings too. We can't always be watching a display. You might have her read a favorite book or poetry, or something else that can be listened to long-term while you or whoever is doing something else. Also, people are often more comfortable off-camera, especially if they are debilitated.

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  13. Re: DON'T Preserve them forever! by Vapula · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I lost my mother from a cancer about 9 years ago... And I still miss her and I'm still crying at some times... For example, when my son was born (she would have liked so much to know him).

    But I would NOT recommend you to take any step to preserve her memories... Because all that you'll do will be artificial, it won't be her.

    You'll have to move on, be ready to be grieving for about one year, the time needed to hit each anniversary and special dates... And it'll be the same for your daughters. And you'll have to help your daughter going through that, by having they think about something more happy (you may talk with them about the good times before the illness then go on to good times they can have with you (their dad) now).

    Creating a "sanctuary" is probably the worse thing that you can do... My only advice would be to enjoy all the moments that you can still enjoy with her, try to have some good time during these grim moments...

    Except for her last weeks, my mother was on chemiotherapy... We changed your life to adapt to her cycle... 1 week ill, 2 weeks tired and 1 week when she was feeling well. We didn't celebrate birthdays and other on the official date, we learned to celebrate them during that good week. And we had quality moments in family during these weeks.

    Don't talk or think about her death, it won't bring anything good (well, to be a little cynic, you could get run over by a car tomorrow and die before her), try to enjoy all what you can.

    Also, keep in mind that by taking photos and videos, you're making memories of her illness, not of the good time BEFORE her illness... And even if memories fade away, the most important won't disappear...

    Find the nicest picture of her BEFORE things went bad, and put it NOW in a good place in your living room, if possible among other pictures of the family. Even better, find a picture where you're all together. By doing it now, while she is still there, you won't be making a "sanctuary" but displaying family pictures... It'll help to remember without linking it to the "souvenir" (sorry, I'm french-speaking) of when she died.

    You may forget her voice, you won't forget her words. You may forget her face, you won't forget that you loved her smile/hair/... You may forget the last moments, you won't forget the happy one. No need for a time capsule for that...

  14. Re:Personally by Mucky+Pup · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree here. I lost my father when I was 21 in a car accident - my whole family (mother and 2 sisters) were in the car and he was the only one injured.

    Spend time with your wife. Let your children experience her as the naturally do. Drop the camera and live the moment. Take pictures when you would if you didn't have the knowledge. The reality of the recording media can sometimes dilute the memory. I'm sure some of the memories of my father did not happen the way I remember - but they are my memories and I look back at them fondly when I think of my father. I'd rather remember the memories fondly rather than potentially have a "digital archive" show me that it really didn't happen the way my memories recorded them (or potentially having my current view of life polluting the memory.)

    We as human beings have survived many many hundreds of years without digital archives. We remember or ancestors. You don't want to look back and think - "I should have been on the other side of that camera."

  15. Re:Some ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is VERY insightful and I wish I had mod points today. All but only distant members of my family are gone. I have very little left to remember anyone by and it hurts a great deal. What I regret most is the loss of my grandparents and of not being smart enough or mature enough to have sat them down and had them tell me stories that I could record. One of my grandparents in particular had quite a few adventures and had told me about WWII and some of the engineering he did. I have these only in memory now and would so much rather have had them recorded and heard more of them. But I was a kid and later on he got Alzheimers which left him unable to even recognize me or his wife. By then it was too late! I do not recall ever having heard such interesting stories from my parents although I'm sure I did. My parents were all taken early from me and again I was too young and too immature to think this far ahead. I tell others not to make the same mistakes and not to procrastinate - you never know what tragedy may befall someone you care about when you least expect it. To be left with only fleeting memories and to know nothing of the childhood of your family is awful, memories need to be passed down. Stories of rides in biplanes, trips where tires were repaired over and over on rocky muddy roads, WWII stories that were never reported in the papers - all of this should be preserved and more if possible.

    It twists my gut to hear what this person is going through, if there's one disease I'd like to see cured it's cancer followed closely by debilitating disease like Alzheimers that rob a person of their mind...

  16. Re: DON'T Preserve them forever! by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm dealing with a loss of my mother as well. I tried doing video recordings, but the problem I faced was that they weren't terribly candid. My mother was always a camera whore however, so in one sense it was natural for her to seek and find the camera in the room, then play up to it; in another sense I was never able to capture the candid moments when mom was just being herself.

    The OP has likely weighed the worth of capturing the last moments of his wife's life, knowing full well how painful the moments will be (the visual effect of her illness, etc.).

    I recommend creating new memories and documenting those with recordings. Go out, take a day trip. These things need not be expensive. Record yourself spending time together be alive and not merely acting. Write letters to each other. Share old memories, remind each other of your life spent together. A written letter, not some blog entry that only exists digitally, will have more value. Create physically tangible pieces of memory, be it toys you buy each other, or polaroids you shot of each other. Things you can hold, things that don't require a computer, will mean a lot to you.

    The point of all this is to create new memories that don't anchor you or her to the illness. Make the illness a non-issue.

    As for preserving old memories. I recommend that any video or audio you have be archived losslessly to very durable storage medium. I recommend digital tape. Even my old VHS analog tapes have proven more durable that things written to DVD-R. But do keep copies on more easily consumable mediums such as flash cards and DVD-Rs. For photos, I recommend developing your photos, archiving lossless originals as above, and then keeping high quality JPEGs for easy digital access. For personal belongings, I use durable plastic containers that can be sealed. Zip-loc bags are useful too.

    The point here is you'll find yourself wanting to archive a lot of diverse materials. Being Slashdot, we immediately think about media, but there's other things too like stuffed animals, christmas ornaments. etc. A wide variety of things. Also, I recommend photographing those things. I would also digitally scan letters and other documents. Save things from your outings. I have movie tickets. They bring back a lot of memories.

    It's a lot of heartbreaking work. At the moment, I can't even look at the material I've collected, but I know someday I will want to revisit it.

  17. Re:Nobody needs die of cancer any more by the+biologist · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ok, a point by point rebuttal to this crazy, from an actual practicing molecular biologist.

    The orthomolecular biochemists

    This word doesn't mean anything in scientific circles. "Orthomolecular" is a relatively new fad term for holistic nutrition/medicine. Examine here for an example.

    have a unified theory of cancer and it's reversible now.

    There is a unified theory of cancer, it primarily states that living things get cancer in the same way that iron rusts. It is inevitable, as a consequence of the fundamental properties of the system in question. It is not "reversible", a nonsense term in the biological context, and every specific cancer will require a different specific treatment.

    Salvesterols

    Google "salvesterols", 256 hits. Google "salvestrols", 35400 hits. Neither term is used in chemical/biochemical/molbio literature. The basic concept is that all "diseased cells" have specific enzymes which will convert specific plant-derived salvestrols into poisons, thus killing the bad cells. Evolutionarily, there is no way this would be maintained. The first mutant cell lacking this special enzyme would proliferate and the salvestrol would be of no use. See here for a representative site.

    exploit the CYPB1P1 metabolic pathway; the Cytochrome P450-1 enzyme converts them to

    There isn't a "CYPB1P1 pathway". CYPB1P1 is an enzyme involved in the oxidative breakdown of a variety of substrates. These enzymes are often used by animals to detoxify minor toxins from food. In the case of Aflotoxin poisoning, these enzymes are responsible for the production of potentially fatal liver damage by modifying the initially neutral compound into a potent mutagen/carcinogen/toxin.

    picotannins

    The word "picotannins" doesn't exist in the chemical/biological literature, or on the web according to Google. Perhaps you meant tannings at low ("pico") levels? Tannins are plant compoinds and are not synthesized by any known animal metabolic pathways. At low levels, some tannins may have benificial effects on diet. In larger ammounts, they tend to be poisonous to animals not specialized in consuming them. Specialized animals tend to have enzymes in their saliva to bind and inactivate tannins before they can be absorved in the gut.

    which selectively, in vivo and in vitro, kill only tumor cells.

    Not exactly true, but since technically the chemicals you're speaking of don't exist, I suppose I can't say.

    I've met end stage lung cancer patients whose cancer has been rerversed.

    This is wonderful news for them and irrelevant to your claims.

    I'm not interested in any nay sayers or claims of quckery. I'm just not interested.

    It is good to know you've decided you don't need to learn anything about a topic to which you obviously have no expertise, before making potentially life-changing decisions based on that erroneous assumption.

    Contact me directly if you need more information or sources; I can point you to (free) biochemists who can explain this much better than I can and offer guidance. It's extremely important to avoid sugar; whereas our cells use atp for energy, cancer cells use sugars directly.

    Cancer cells cannot use sugar "directly" in the way you imply, nothing can actually. All cells use ATP for energy, with a minor sprinkling of GTP. Some human cell types (brain/neurons) will only accept sugar from the blood as a food source, while others (muscle/skin/etc) will also accept amino acids, cholesterol, and triglycerides from the blood to use for food. Your liver actually synthesizes sugar (glu