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Halo Reach Leaked To Filesharing Sites

Stoobalou writes "What appears to be the full version of Bungie's Halo Reach game has turned up on a number of file sharing sites. The hotly-anticipated multi-player shooter had been hosted on a private area of the Microsoft Live site in order for journalists to preview the release, but Microsoft has admitted that a security breach has meant that pirates have been able to bypass personal download codes given to writers. Disk images of the game are now appearing on a number of public torrent and P2P sites as well as on popular NZB aggregators and Usenet binaries newsgroups." The game isn't due to be released until September 14th. Microsoft is said to be "aggressively pursuing" whoever grabbed the files without their permission.

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  1. lol by uncholowapo · · Score: 0

    Wow, that must be a record.

    1. Re:lol by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      -21 day release?

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    2. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not even close to a record. Back in the heyday of cracking groups like TDT, Razor 1911, Fairlight, TRSi and THG we would often get software or games a month or two before release. Sometimes we even got purely internal beta versions.

    3. Re:lol by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      I remember that plenty of people played with final Windows 95 in mid-July.

  2. Long end of the stick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "What appears to be the full version of Bungie's Halo Reach game has turned up on a number of file sharing sites. The hotly-anticipated multi-player shooter had been hosted on a private area of the Microsoft Live site in order for journalists to preview the release, but Microsoft has admitted that a security breach has meant that pirates have been able to bypass personal download codes given to writers. Disk images of the game are now appearing on a number of public torrent and P2P sites as well as on popular NZB aggregators and Usenet binaries newsgroups."

    Whew! I'm sure glad we lengthened copyright to prevent something like this.

    1. Re:Long end of the stick. by miggyb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clearly we now need copyright to extend backwards into the past, before the work is completely finished. Otherwise, how are artists like Da Vinci supposed to protect unfinished works like the Mona Lisa?

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    2. Re:Long end of the stick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Am I the only one who's thinking this might be a "leaked" release sent out specifically to justify Iron Curtain tactics to follow, which will be directed against public torrent, P2P, aggregators, and Usenet sites?

      And here we thought the Google/Verizon deal operated in a vacuum. (cue sarcasm)

      It's not the massive catastrophes that destroy entirely, but the tiny little compromises made every day that eat at your soul til nothing remains.

    3. Re:Long end of the stick. by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      mona lisa's eyebrows either where removed by an overzealous art restorer trying to clean the painting, or faded due to a lower quality pigment. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/17/monalisa.mystery/index.html *gets ready to be wooshed*

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    4. Re:Long end of the stick. by EdIII · · Score: 1

      It's not the massive catastrophes that destroy entirely, but the tiny little compromises made every day that eat at your soul til nothing remains.

      I think you stole that from an inspirational poster at the RIAA headquarters.

  3. Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're stealing potential profit! It's almost as bad as competition between businesses, or a consumer informing other consumers about a bad company/poorly made product. In all three cases, potential profit is being stolen.

    We must stop these people from hurting our businesses. Also, this clearly wouldn't have happened if there had been super powerful DRM installed with the game!

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    1. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's Captain Obvious when you need him? :-)

    2. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, since this is a multiplayer game, it's not going to matter, really. But, still, why shouldn't companies have time to release and market their products whenever the fuck they want to? I can't really see how you can defend pirates releasing a game before the company intends to.

    3. Re:Better go after those pirates by bakamorgan · · Score: 0

      oh yea maybe a super powerfull DRM like ubisoft has?

    4. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      No, it needs to be far more annoying and restrictive than that to ensure the best security possible. Pirates will never get around that.

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    5. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Defend pirates? I assure you that my intention was to show my appreciation for these poor, innocent companies. No one has the right to steal another persons non-existent profits. Ugh, pirates anger me so.

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    6. Re:Better go after those pirates by skirmish666 · · Score: 1

      They're stealing potential profit! It's almost as bad as competition between businesses, or a consumer informing other consumers about a bad company/poorly made product. In all three cases, potential profit is being stolen.

      We must stop these people from hurting our businesses. Also, this clearly wouldn't have happened if there had been super powerful DRM installed with the game!

      Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the business which is going to be suffering the most impact from this leak Bungie? AFAIK Bungie isn't doing anything more than running their own business, not hurting others.

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    7. Re:Better go after those pirates by bakamorgan · · Score: 0

      I believe there was one called starforce...that didn't last long either.

    8. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1, Funny

      Bungie is stealing potential profit away from other companies due to the fact that some people might buy one of their games instead of a game from another company. Pirates are doing something similar, only without money involved. We can't condone these pirates who are stealing non-existence profit, no matter what pirate-enablers say or think.

      Clearly spending millions more on DRM that will totally never be cracked and millions more on going after these pirates (police have nothing better to do, anyway) is a good investment.

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    9. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      It should have been far more annoying and restrictive, then. That would stop those pirates cold in their tracks!

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    10. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If some of the people pirating don't buy but they would have without the pirate being available there's nothing "potential" about the profits lost. A very telling fact is game sales stopped growing a year ago when projections seemed to indicate another 5 years of growth. Something is changing and I doubt it's because people stopped playing games. In the end fewer games will be made and jobs will be lost. Simple fact, the corporate bigwigs aren't the ones taking the loss it's the people making the games. They are the poor saps in the middle

      Signed Poor Sap

    11. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A very telling fact is game sales stopped growing a year ago when projections seemed to indicate another 5 years of growth.

      People are no longer lining up to spend 60 dollars on a video game - piracy must be to blame!

    12. Re:Better go after those pirates by grainofsand · · Score: 1, Informative

      Right - "projections" are never wrong are they. I would like to have had a dollar for every time life had not met my "projections".

      Is it just possible that growth has slowed either natuarally or as a reusult of a major econimc downturn - the likes of which many contries have recently experienced?

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    13. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Yes, stealing non-existent property is completely logical and totally possible. Again, I'm not defending these evil pirates at all. I'm just stating why piracy is completely wrong. These are the anti-piracy arguments that a majority of us pirate-haters use, and they are completely valid.

      "If some of the people pirating don't buy but they would have without the pirate being available there's nothing "potential" about the profits lost."
      I know, it's just... wrong! It brings my blood to a boil, too. Much like how if one business wasn't around, the customers that would have bought products from that business would likely visit another business to buy products. Therefore, the first business is stealing profits from the rest of the businesses. There's nothing potential about that, either.

      Ugh. I'm getting so fired up about all these injustices! I need to take a break...

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    14. Re:Better go after those pirates by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      Like randomly damaging the equipment of anyone, even legal 'licensors'?
      Yeah, been there done that.

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    15. Re:Better go after those pirates by gmhowell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Holy shit! People don't drop as many $50 bills on frivolous entertainment in a down economy? That's just crazy talk!

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    16. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if a game is pirated before it's officially released, maybe the people who would potentially pre-buy or actually legitimately buy the game once it was officially released decide they can't wait and pirate instead?

    17. Re:Better go after those pirates by ElKry · · Score: 1

      I believe all we have left to program is a DRM system that nukes your computer from orbit. After all, it's the only way to be sure.

    18. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      god you are stupid.
      it is NOTHING LIKE competition between businesses, as you would know if you had ever run one. Competing businesses would have to spend the $30 million+ to develop a competing product. Asshole self-righteous thieves like many of those pro-piracy kids here, just steal other peoples work.

      if you can't see the difference, then you are severely, critically retarded.

      And why is this news? Is this now officially the new piratebay? I don't come here to learn about stolen software, I come here for tech news. Leave this shit to torrentfreak and other childish warez sites.

    19. Re:Better go after those pirates by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 1

      I would love to buy games, but the ones coming out these days are either crap (my personal opinion) or not available for the platforms i own (usually it's both), so i play old 8 & 16 bit games & the occasional PlayStation title.

    20. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing that changed is that most mainstream games are complete garbage these days.

      I'll take Warsow over Halo any day. It's the same gameplay except one is free and the other is not.

    21. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      I've already taken that into account, and I completely agree. They're stealing from future versions of Microsoft and Bungie, obviously.

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    22. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What? I hate piracy, my friend. Those thieves steal from future versions of the author/business that created the product. But, really, how can you not see how competition between businesses is stealing potential profit? When someone goes to one business to buy a product instead of going to another business, the first business is stealing from the other business because the other business could have had more profit (remember, future profit is being stolen) if the person went to their business to buy the product, instead.

      Also, I'm sure glad that you agree with my point of view about piracy being evil, instead of thinking I was being sarcastic and then simply bashing my argument without even commenting on what was logically wrong with it. Good thing you didn't do that.

      We have to stop these injustices, my friend. After all, copying something is stealing because it steals non-existent profit from the developer (the future version of the developer), just like businesses steal non-existent profit from each other when they compete. We can't allow this to happen. Something must be done.

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    23. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      god you are thick.
      Businesses INVEST money up front of the basis of selling their product in the future. Yes, thsoe profits are non existent at the time, but the investment takes place on the best-guess that thsoe profits will be made.
      Are your eally genuinely this fucking thick that you think that businesses continue to invest when people liek you will take the product for free and reduce their revenue to zero?
      Jesus christ,. it amazes me how retarded some of the anti-copyright bullshit people spout can be.This game took millions to develop, why the fuck do slashdot readers think they are entitled to take that work for free? Fucking grow up.

    24. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2, Funny

      What are you talking about, friend? You're the one being thick. You support the theft of non-existent (future) profit by supporting competition. You might as well support piracy. Some businesses think they have the right to steal customers (thereby likely stealing future profit away from other businesses) away from other businesses. This is absurd. You should do your part to help stop the theft of future profits.

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    25. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad for you they don't make NES or Sega Genesis games anymore

    26. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn it, why do I not have mod points for that post????

    27. Re:Better go after those pirates by shadowmage36 · · Score: 1

      I believe all we have left to program is a DRM system that initiates exterminatus from orbit. After all, it's the only way to be sure.

      FTFY.

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    28. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to have had a dollar for every time life had not met my "projections".

      What are your projections for how much money you would have?

    29. Re:Better go after those pirates by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      so let me get this straight. You are advocating action that leads to there being only one company delivering each product? One company that makes videogames, One company that sells gasoline, One company that makes bread, One company that makes Rubber Duckies, Etc? No Competition?

      I'm assuming that you are playing devils advocate here, because If you're not, then you must not be familiar with what happens to consumers when single companies get monopolies on a product. That, and your retarded.

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    30. Re:Better go after those pirates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because its in the future doesn't mean its non-existent. Millions of people invest in pension plans and other retirement funds. That doesn't mean its non-existent. You can put a valuation on its current state too. I personally know several relatives whose retirement funds have been wiped out by assholes on wall street taking their "future money" away from them. You sound just the right kind of prick who would support financial thievery on wall street then. Its all "future" money anyway. I guess its a mistake trying to engage self-entitled assholes like you, but oh well...

    31. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      I know. How many times do I have to state that I do not condone piracy? The fact that some people actually think that it's acceptable to steal something that is in an infinite quantity and deprive the author of future profit brings my blood to a boil. Like competition between businesses where one business is always stealing potential profit from another business.

      Though, reading your comment has made me realize something: I'm stealing the potential profit of these businesses simply because I didn't buy their products. If I had bought them, they'd have more money, which means I stole some of their potential, future profit. They invested money into these products expecting to make money in return, and I had the gall not to buy every single one of their products, thereby depriving them of future profit. Much like pirates and competition between businesses.

      I'll be back later after I've bought every product in existence.

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    32. Re:Better go after those pirates by enderjsv · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Wow, you love sarcasm, don't you john? You ever try canning the sarcasm and instead making your point clearly and concisely, instead of masking it in passive-aggressive-teenage bullshit? Or are you that hard up for the +1 funny you get from like-minded adolescent assholes like yourself who can't tell the difference between wit and sarcasm? Seriously, your last 4 posts or so have been nothing but sarcastic tirades. That kind of crap shouldn't fly hear on Slashdot.

    33. Re:Better go after those pirates by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      I agree, sarcasm and parody are passive-aggressive-teenage bullshit. Who uses either of those?

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  4. oh noes by bakamorgan · · Score: 0

    Saw this posted a few days ago. Meh, it's not like it was going to get pirated after it was officially released like any other xbox game. So another xbox patch to go out and brick some more xbox consoles are in order?

  5. Does this mean... by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can redeem my Gamestop super exclusive unlocked shiny armor of orgasmic distraction early too?

    I despise software that is deliberately broken. If publishers want to make some extra sales by rewarding preorders I'm fine with it, but after a few months the items should be available to everyone. I paid for the thing, I should not be prevented from using all of the features.

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    1. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but have you paid enough, is the question.

    2. Re:Does this mean... by Mike+Mentalist · · Score: 0

      How is it deliberately broken? The requirements for getting the extra armour are that you pre-order the game. If you don't fulfill those requirements then you don't get the armour.

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    3. Re:Does this mean... by Tom9729 · · Score: 1

      You do realize the "bonus" from Gamestop for preordering is literally a belt and a little tiny chest plate, both of which have no effect on the gameplay whatsoever...

    4. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize the "bonus" from Gamestop for preordering is literally a belt and a little tiny chest plate, both of which have no effect on the gameplay whatsoever...

      Whoosh.

    5. Re:Does this mean... by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 1

      Yes, I understand this. I was speaking in more broad terms toward the principle of the thing.

      If I paid for the product, the contents of the box are mine to do with as I please (short of distributing copies). I will not have the publisher or anyone tell me what to do with software that I purchased any more than I would allow a car dealer dictate to me which cities I can drive to.

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    6. Re:Does this mean... by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      the contents of the box are mine to do with as I please (short of distributing copies)

      Sorry, but that just isn't the case.

    7. Re:Does this mean... by Captain+Centropyge · · Score: 1

      Doesn't mean it SHOULDN'T be the case. Most of us understand that DRM and other restrictions put on personal use are a load of crap. Unfortunately for all of us, you're correct. But the gov't isn't going to come charging into my house for applying a crack to my game to play without a CD. So he can likely get away with doing what he wants (short of distributing copies).

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    8. Re:Does this mean... by cgenman · · Score: 1

      So, do with it as you please. Go right ahead.

      Oh, you want them to give you an unlock code. Ok. That's a little different.

    9. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I understand this. I was speaking in more broad terms toward the principle of the thing.

      If I paid for the product, the contents of the box are mine to do with as I please (short of distributing copies). I will not have the publisher or anyone tell me what to do with software that I purchased any more than I would allow a car dealer dictate to me which cities I can drive to.

      The contents of the box are most often yours, but these pre-order specials are actually downloadable content that doesn't come packaged with the game.

  6. Permission? by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    If you put the game in a machine without asking the owner, would he be in fault for putting it public or be your own? Even if he owns a lot of machines (i.e. thousands, after all, is his botnet, not yours), the faulty action was probably in Microsoft side.

  7. 'aggressive' waste of time by postmortem · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless they cut power to all XBOX owners, I don't see how you can stop known leak on internet in 2010. Better spend money and resources elsewhere. Release it few weeks earlier?

    1. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by aeiah · · Score: 1

      They'll just bring out an xbox update and issue a new wave of bans to xbox live if it matters that much to them. that'll stop most people using it until a copy of the officially released version shows up on P2P in 3 weeks

    2. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

      it's for the future, smarty. If they find the person who originated it and sue the hell out of them, they think it will deter the next smart ass who thinks they're "so cool" for leaking other games early. Just so we're clear, Microsoft is a bunch of dumbasses for opening up the servers and giving copies out to just whoever claims to be reporting on it in order to make more money on an already self-marketing product. The person who leaked it is a dumbass because they're going to get caught and sued into bankruptcy and probably prison. The people downloading it are dumbasses because they're handing Microsoft their IPs and Live and Xbox unique identifiers when they connect with the illegal version plus the last thing we need are more dumb 13 year olds whining about how Microsoft should unban them cuz all they did was steal a game and play it illegally. Pretty much no smart, sensible parties in this entire thing.

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    3. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Agreed. People are stealing from Microsoft's infinite pool of copies, and they must be stopped. People are stealing from Microsoft in the future, where they would have made profits had people not pirated their game.

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    4. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by d3ac0n · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, if you RTFA, the attackers used a vulnerability in the website hosting the code to break in and BYPASS the journalist login feature. So technically, no reporters are gonna get sued since none of them did anything wrong.

      Let's be honest, the real problem here was that MS was using the "Security by Obscurity" model to hide the test code site. It even says ITA that it was a "secret" website. (As if a website could EVER be secret for long, especially one connected to Microsoft.) The fact that anyone at MS still thinks that security by obscurity is wise reveals that despite all of the improvements in Win7, There is an ingrained culture in MS that still doesn't get it.

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    5. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by tophermeyer · · Score: 1

      plus the last thing we need are more dumb 13 year olds whining about how Microsoft should unban them cuz all they did was steal a game and play it illegally.

      Not sure if you've ever played on XBox Live, but Microsoft would most definitely be doing a service to society by banning those whining 13 yr olds. I fully support anyone who is stupid and cheap enough to pirate this game to go ahead and do so. MS/Bungie will ban the hell out of the 'tards and make the service a lot more attractive to the socially responsible normal people out there.

    6. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by cgenman · · Score: 1

      They know the tags of the journalists with legitimate copies of the game. Anyone who brings a Halo console online, or gets offline achievements and then goes online is asking for a perma-ban.

      As Halo is mostly about the multiplayer experience, I can't see this really substituting for the full game.

    7. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by cc1984_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's be honest, the real problem here was that MS was using the "Security by Obscurity" model to hide the test code site. It even says ITA that it was a "secret" website. (As if a website could EVER be secret for long, especially one connected to Microsoft.)

      Secret websites are nothing special. The only thing that Microsoft forgot to do is create a robots.txt file

      User-agent: *
      Disallow: /SecretDownloads/Halo-Reach-Prerelease.zip

      That way it wouldn't have shown up on Google and nobody would have downloaded it. Problem solved.

    8. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by HungryHobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      that's why reading the robots.txt files for sites can sometimes be fun.

    9. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Hilarious reply. Good job! I hate those pirates, too.

      "by banning those whining 13 yr olds"
      Actually, I'd like to see them ban any whining person, regardless of age. I've heard full-grown adults screaming over losing a game. It's pretty sad.

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    10. Re:'aggressive' waste of time by chrisneedshelp · · Score: 1

      Hey. I don't know if your answer to my question is going to be biassed since I googled for this answer and this is the best I've found. - I even made this account just to get a legitimate answer from you. Now I'm not a modder, but I'm a huge Halo fan. Recently I may have modded my xbox so I could play Halo Reach. Stupidly enough I used my xbox live account to play and gain achievements, even though I wasn't connected to the internet at all. From what I've read from your response, you say I'm asking for a perma ban if I sign on since I have traces that I've played the game even though it hasn't been released. My question to you though is once the game is actually released and I have my own legit copy, will I be able to sign into xbox live without Microsoft detecting that I have achievements from a previous copy that was illegal. Will I get banned if I sign onto xbox live after September 14th?

  8. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    • People who weren't going to buy the game might try it out.
    • If you're going to play it multiplayer, which has to be 99% of what the game's about, you want a legit version.

    Ergo, you gave it to journalists for publicity then got upset because it got publicity. Word of mouth from those "zero day" releases will get you more paying customers than the journalists will, especially when everybody's playing Starcraft II instead of reading game magazines and websites.

  9. Only for specific Xbox360 mod by JorDan+Clock · · Score: 2, Informative

    The version leaked is only useable for those with a specific kind of Xbox 360 mod, namely a JTAG mod. Basically, they aren't going to be playing on Xbox Live with this game or they'll kind their Xbox banned (and possibly Live account along with it). This is not a version that can be burned to a disc and played with a DVD-ROM modded 360, which is the most common mod and has a low detection rate.

    1. Re:Only for specific Xbox360 mod by Beelzebud · · Score: 1

      People have already found ways around that.

    2. Re:Only for specific Xbox360 mod by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pirating Reach is a bit of a stretch, then.

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    3. Re:Only for specific Xbox360 mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. No reason to extend this discussion any further.

    4. Re:Only for specific Xbox360 mod by X.mpls · · Score: 1

      I'm not entirely sure Jtag-modders won't play on Xbox Live is true. I have seen Jtag modders on COD:MW2. Their JTAG mods allowed them to do all sort of crazy stuff. They altered some kind of file that communicated to the game server kills and deaths. That is why you see some people with a 4000 kill to death ratio in-game and in the stats listings, unlimited care packages or some other ridiculously obvious cheat. Maybe those people did only enjoy a few moments of splendor before Microsoft dropped the hammer on them -- I hope they did. I pre-ordered this game and don't care if it was leaked 2.5 weeks early. I waited years for this game to be developed so I can wait a few more weeks. Plenty of other people will do the same and both Microsoft and Bungie will make fistfuls of money regardless of how many people download this leaked version.

  10. Misleading headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Halo: Reach was actually leaked onto store shelves in the year 2001 for the original Xbox.

    Halo: Reach is the short version of the longer title, Halo: Reach for another game.

  11. The Media Cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Juilan Assange is so yesterday when you have Gamez for Windows.

    Justice is done.

  12. JTAGED by st1rguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think this will hurt MS much , a JTAG mod is out of hacker skill range of most Xbox gamers. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-JTAG-your-Xbox-360-and-run-homebrew/

    1. Re:JTAGED by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but these evil pirates also like to share information. They might tell each other how to do so, reading a few steps. We must stop them.

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    2. Re:JTAGED by internettoughguy · · Score: 1

      :O what the heck r u talkin bout i cant understand it :@ comment on a simpler way to put it

      An actual comment from that instructable, I think the GP's point still stands :).

    3. Re:JTAGED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what embarrasing bullshit. Sharing information is the justification used by wikileaks for sharing stuff the government doesn't want you to know. or its the argument for sharing academic thesis that were paid for by the state.
      Its not an arguemnt for taking a commercial piece of work, that cost tens of millions to make, and pays for hundreds if not thousands of peoples jobs, and reducing that work to a value of $0, out of petty, silly, tight-assed spite by a bunch of kids.
      Maybe if you actually grow up and get a job writing software, and after 3 years work, your boss hands you a redundancy notice, and tells you that no, you arent getting any bonus, or any redundancy payment, because the firm made a huge loss on that software, maybe then you will have truly grown up and see what a laod of immature bullshit this 'information wants to be free' meme was?

    4. Re:JTAGED by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Oh, of course. I had temporarily forgotten that most people only know enough about technology to use a television remote.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    5. Re:JTAGED by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Cheeky,

      Obviously you have been being intentionally sarcastic/ironic/whatever for the entire article here, and that's fine. I've gotten a good laugh at it, thank you.

      However, you have unintentionally swerved into the truth here; Most people really DO know only enough about technology to work the remote. Some not even that much. Which is why this isn't really a threat. Nobody is going to use this to play online, as the only people with enough skill/intelligence to figure out how to do it also know enough not to try.

      --
      Official Heretic from the "Church of Global Warming". Proven right thanks to whistle blowers. AGW = Flat Earth Theory
    6. Re:JTAGED by TheTyrannyOfForcedRe · · Score: 1

      The kids today can't learn to solder a couple of resistors and diodes onto a cable? Somehow I don't believe that.

      My senior year of high school our physics teacher bought a bunch of (ISA!) data acquisition cards for the PC. They were unassembled bare boards that needed to be populated with components and soldered. The teacher recruited me to assembled them. He gave me a small herd of workers which mostly consisted of teenage girls who had never seen electronic components before.

      I explained how to solder and did a few quick demos. I spent maybe 20 minutes. That same class period every one of the "workers" was producing good solder joints.

      Soldering is not hard! Really. Buy a kit from Radio Shack for under $20 and hit youtube for instruction.

      --
      "Liechtenstein is the world's largest producer of sausage casings, potassium storage units, and false teeth."
    7. Re:JTAGED by RaymondKurzweil · · Score: 1

      Well keep your chin up, and remember not to get bitter at any point.

    8. Re:JTAGED by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 1

      The kids these days, if they enjoy online games, are almost certainly upgraded past the Summer 2009 kernel release which seals the hole used. Notice how the first step is "check if your xbox is exploitable". If you can find an Xbox that was put into a dusty cupboard around that time, AND are willing to do all the electronics work then you can play the pirated game. In practice that's not many people.

    9. Re:JTAGED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This moron thinks repeating a tired debunked pro-piracy argument will get him some free karma. This is the right place to do so I guess. To hell with copyright law! I'm going to abuse the GPL too !!.. Oh... crap .. :(

    10. Re:JTAGED by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Perhaps when you grow up, you'll learn to read my previous replies.

      "you arent getting any bonus"
      Correlation = causation. Nice.

      "immature bullshit this 'information wants to be free' meme was"
      I plan to be a software programmer myself, but I absolutely refuse to support idiotic practices like the anti-piracy movement for personal gain. Yes, gain. I'm not going to type out everything I already said above. Go read my previous sarcastic replies to find out how idiotic this anti-piracy bullshit is, and why our society is in need of some actual change.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    11. Re:JTAGED by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Debunked? I'd say I've already debunked the anti-piracy arguments.

      What are pirates stealing, exactly? Certainly not the product itself, as they have to take something in order for it to be stealing. They've copied it.

      However, due to the fact that they haven't actually stolen the product itself, but copied it, the only conclusion that remains is that they've 'stolen' potential, currently non-existent profit. If this act was illegal, however, everyone would be guilty of doing this. Competition between businesses would be illegal, due to the fact that customers might decide to go to one business to buy a product instead of going to another business, which, under the "potential profit" logic, would mean the first business stole potential/future profit from the second business. Not to mention the fact that informing consumers about a bad company/poorly made product would also be illegal, due to the fact that it could scare away potential customers of the company, thereby depriving them of potential/future profit. Also, people who just didn't buy the product would be as bad as pirates in the eyes of the business. They have no way of knowing who is a pirate and who isn't. If these 'normal' people would have bought their product, they would have had more money, which, since they didn't, means that they have deprived the business of future profit. The entire "potential profit" argument is illogical and holds zero ground.

      It's also foolish to assume that everyone who pirated a product would have bought it had it not been available to pirate.

      Our capitalistic ways are starting to show their age more and more as each day passes, and people are defending them to the death, even when it's illogical and hypocritical to do so.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
  13. security breach?? by kernelphr34k · · Score: 0, Troll

    Microsoft had a security breach??? No way!!

  14. low detection rate? by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 1

    If you play it in the next week, they can easily detect that and surmise you pirated it.

    Can anyone explain why you need a JTAG mode to play this game? The only reason I have heard that makes sense is that a JTAG mode allows you to unban your console (by changing the ID) so you can play it on Live with impunity. Anyone who doesn't have a JTAG mod will get their console banned and won't be able to use it anymore.

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    http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
    1. Re:low detection rate? by NoZart · · Score: 5, Interesting

      >>> Can anyone explain why you need a JTAG mode to play this game?

      Because the game was released as an unencrypted download title. This way, you can not generate a working ISO to burn from it, as you don't know which way to encrypt it to match the release discs.

      >>> JTAG mode allows you to unban your console (by changing the ID)

      Yeah, but you need an existing keyvault from an unbanned XBox to do that, so this method is highly impractical.
      The workaround for JTAGs to use this leak is more along the lines playing the games over Xlink Kai, a LAN-tunneling service, which will provide a crappy gameplay experience. /Tinfoil hat on/
      The way this was leaked (only works on JTAGs which are few and gimped multiplayer and MP is the main draw of the game) makes me think that it is possible this is intentional. All the Youtube clips showing ingame details work perfectly as some sort of guerilla marketing to amp up the hype. /Tinfoil hat off/

    2. Re:low detection rate? by ifrag · · Score: 1

      If you play it in the next week, they can easily detect that and surmise you pirated it.

      Well... considering that the multi-player servers are probably not even up yet, anyone doing this is probably going to be playing with the network unplugged anyway.

      --
      Fear is the mind killer.
  15. HALO BREACH !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get it, breach instead of reach? Yes?

  16. 640p fun for all by AHuxley · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All the joy of 640p textures again and again :)

    --
    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  17. So what? by KarlIsNotMyName · · Score: 1

    This always happens. Maybe not always ahead of the official release, but piracy is a reality. It hasn't killed any major games yet, and you're wasting your time, and more importantly money, worrying about it.

    --
    We are all God's parents.
  18. Well, this just proves it! by billsayswow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is why everyone releases games for the console these days. Everyone pirates PC games, but no one can pirate for the consoles...

    1. Re:Well, this just proves it! by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      You read my mind, my friend. You read my mind...

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    2. Re:Well, this just proves it! by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      but no one can pirate for the consoles...

      You ignorant or blind?

    3. Re:Well, this just proves it! by pckl300 · · Score: 1

      The thing is, this leak won't prevent the game from having record-breaking sales on launch day. The percentage of Xbox owners that can/will make use of this leak is minuscule.

      --
      In the beginning, there was null.
    4. Re:Well, this just proves it! by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

      but no one can pirate for the consoles...

      You ignorant or blind?

      Understanding sarcasm is soooo overrated.

      --
      If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
    5. Re:Well, this just proves it! by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A PC doesn't have to be modded to work with pirate software, a console generally does. This alone ensures that piracy will never be even remotely as prevalent on consoles as it is on PC's.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    6. Re:Well, this just proves it! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So is modding the OP funny :P

  19. Come after me, Microsoft... by Khyber · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you mad you failed to secure your permissions for downloaded files?

    You only have yourself to blame. I only showed people how to bypass your bullshit, just like I showed the nice people at OZMODS how to bypass the PS3 protections.

    Please, come after me. I'll fucking wipe out your life and livelihood when I expose your internal e-mails showing how you PLANNED this out. We're talking a SECOND anti-trust lawsuit with full exposure this time, assholes. FUCKING TEST ME.

    I *LOVE* having spies in industry. Your NDA be damned. I'll expose you for the Totalitarian Communists that you are and make your stock price plummet so hard you'll fucking wish you didn't come after me.

    I owned EA, you think you stand any better chance?

    Bring, it, Microsoft. You already know who I am, please, step up so I can wipe your ass out and claim self-defense from INTERNATIONAL TRAITORS SELLING TECHNOLOGY TO FORBIDDEN COUNTRIES.

    You don't stand a chance.

    --
    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
    1. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you mad you failed to secure your permissions for downloaded files?

      You only have yourself to blame. I only showed people how to bypass your bullshit, just like I showed the nice people at OZMODS how to bypass the PS3 protections.

      Please, come after me. I'll fucking wipe out your life and livelihood when I expose your internal e-mails showing how you PLANNED this out. We're talking a SECOND anti-trust lawsuit with full exposure this time, assholes. FUCKING TEST ME.

      I *LOVE* having spies in industry. Your NDA be damned. I'll expose you for the Totalitarian Communists that you are and make your stock price plummet so hard you'll fucking wish you didn't come after me.

      I owned EA, you think you stand any better chance?

      Bring, it, Microsoft. You already know who I am, please, step up so I can wipe your ass out and claim self-defense from INTERNATIONAL TRAITORS SELLING TECHNOLOGY TO FORBIDDEN COUNTRIES.

      You don't stand a chance.

      Alrighty then... Someone didn't take their meds today.

    2. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by TheJokeExplainer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Uh. I am at a real loss on how to explain this.

      -Joke Explainer

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      visit my pal the xkcd explainer!
    3. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh my, he spells cyber with a 'Kh'. He must be leet, stand clear.

    4. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot.

    5. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The scary part is that he believes it. Khyber routinely posts on how "OMG! Group X STOLE my UBER INGENIOUS idea on hacking PS3!!"

    6. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Carefull...it sounds like plain old pursuit will not do and so they have unsheathed their lightsabers for the more aggressive approach. I wonder what Mr. Lucas thinks about this. I'm sure he is rousing his own detachment of aggressive litigious pursuers as we speak for some kind of counter pur....ahh screw it.

      *gets popcorn*

    7. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by TheCarAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, it's like a... when you roll down the windows and....

      I Got nothin

      ~TheCarAnalogyGuy

    8. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Theoboley · · Score: 1

      A bunch of arabian themed rappers stole his idea to hack the ps3? Last i heard they just bought an NES to play Mario Twins.

      --
      Stupidity only gets you so far, then you've gotta try
    9. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn.. Lol

    10. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Malenx · · Score: 1

      Another funny kid trying to take credit for something he didn't do. Go back to watching hackers.

    11. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That post was clearly masterminded by Microsoft to drum up publicity.

    12. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here you go microsoft, this is the guys email:
      omerkh@yahoo.com

    13. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Actually, Microsoft can easily go after those who downloaded the game. It's so simple, they've done it before.

      You cannot get on Xbox Live and play Halo Reach.

      Why? Because Microsoft knows who's supposed to be playing Halo Reach (and whose Xbox Live profiles they've allowed), anyone else online obviously is pirating. (Reviewers can take it across multiple Xboxes easily enough, as the license would be for a particular LIve account, and not Xbox. So if that Live account isn't logged in, that game can't be played).

      So pirates are pretty much stuck with campaign mode. Multiplayer is local only.

      And while Microsoft might want to go after the original uploaders. The rest of them, they just ban the consoles (i.e., you have to buy a brand new Xbox360) from Live, and possible put in markers on the account (similar to the "Cheater" tags on Live). If you're playing it on your pirating Xbox360 that's not connected online and stuff, you're safe. But for the idiots that pirate and do Live, oops. (Microsoft has done this for MW2 and many other games).

      I can tell you the die-hard Halo fans will probably not bother - no Live, no achievements, and no multiplayer (sure, there's local). The average college student probably won't bother either - banned consoles are not a fun way to get through the year. The pirate who wouldn't have paid anyways? No big deal.

      The only real excuse is if you bought it retail because a store broke street date. In which case, Microsoft may ban you, but they'll probably unban you/send you a new console when you present the receipt as going after retailers breaking street dates can entail lots of money for breaking a contract - enough that an Xbox360 replacement is trivial. Not only do stores get fined big bucks (thousands of dollars - easily wiping out any profits), but Microsoft puts that retailer on notice that they can be put on a sh*tlist - retailers who no longer receive product the weeks before release, but at best, the day before or the day of. (And customers hate having to line up waiting for a shipment that may or may not arrive, so it's a quick way to lose lucrative pre-order business and retailers hate the stigma of "they don't ever get anything on release date"). It's why all those gamer sites blank out the receipts of everything except the line item showing the game.

      In the end, it's no big deal for Microsoft. Those stupid enough to play while connected to Live get burned badly. Those smart enough to not to probably wouldn't have paid for it anyways given the limitations. ANd those who managed to get it early means Microsoft gets a few extra bucks from those breaking contracts.

    14. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i hope they do go after you.

    15. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by TheGodwinsLawGuy · · Score: 1

      Clearly the guy's a Nazi.

    16. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by minasoko · · Score: 1

      Good luck, he's behind 7 proxies.

    17. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Um, yea. That's why I've got a nice fat check, for telling them how to bypass the entire thing, with full schematics and video step-by-step.

      Want me to explain the workings of the PSJailbreak chip? I can do it. I can tell you exactly what happens. First we plug the USB pico drive in. We turn on the PS3, and put it into a reset mode. On non-debug models, we futz the data trace down the USB D+ trace (little tiny current surge, nothing major) and this forces the consumer-model console to enter a default repair/debug mode because the reset is giving odd returns (thanks to the USB trace play.) From there, the PS3 load up the debug firmware from the USB drive, and you have debug access, unrestricted ability to load what you please.

      Guess you don't know as much about me as you think.

      My motto - be a bitch online, be a bad motherfucker in real life.

      In about 6 months, expect full hypervisor details to be released.

      --
      Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
    18. Re:Come after me, Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real Khyber would've taken cash or high-value goods.

  20. Bans were last year... by annex1 · · Score: 1

    One has to wonder, after the mass bannings last year, pirates and modders (be they the same or otherwise) have smartened up because nobody knew exactly what criteria and flags Microsoft were using to catch the modders. Most modding forums now have a general agreement that dashboard updates were used to catch the mods. Be this the case, the modders have mostly stopped downloading dashboard updates. This would be a great way for Microsoft to catch modders. The only way to run the ISO, cracked to bypass unique keys, would be to have a modded box. Most anticipated game of the year for the 360, of course a LOT of people are going to jump all over this. Not hard for MS to look at a list of gamertags that have played the game prior to launch and compare that with authorised gamertags that received keys. Any heavy-hitting game like this that MS is publishing, especially a flagship like a Halo title, will certainly earn their attention to protect their income.

  21. The Game Sucks Regardless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The graphics and gameplay are laughably outdated and crappy.

    Not worth the download.

    1. Re:The Game Sucks Regardless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell by the pixels, and having seen quite a few crappy games in my time.

  22. Wow, that's kind of earlier than I expected... by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    Holy shit. Microsoft must be LIVID.

    I expect to see a massive increase in the volume of cheap '100% working great' Xbox 360 items on eBay in the next couple weeks as they ban the consoles of everyone that plays it off of Xbox Li-- Oh damn.

    Nevermind. I imagine Microsoft is quite pleased with this turn of events. What with the increased demand for new 360s and whatnot...

    --

    Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
    1. Re:Wow, that's kind of earlier than I expected... by killmenow · · Score: 1

      Holy shit. Microsoft must be LIVID.

      Only because now people other than paid shills will review the game and let everybody know what a piece of shit it is.

  23. Funny... by DickeyP · · Score: 1

    I always expect to see the 100s of posts meant to somehow justify or downplay the pirating of *insert media type here* . It's only now that I wonder how this site considers such a thing "business as usual" and yet has a relatively high percentage of computer science professionals. I know if I work on some code for a length of time, and that code is marketable, I expect to be compensated for it. I know that "fair compensation" is not the main point of contention in these pirates vs. ninjas (aka evil corps) arguments, but I'd say it is often overlooked. Take some damn responsibility people! A pirate is a pirate, no matter their motivation or personal justifications. For the record, I have pirated things....mostly music.

    1. Re:Funny... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Wait, you pirated music? What kind of evil person would do such a thing? Oh, wait, a pirate. Your comment was looking good until you mentioned that, but now I see that you're nothing more than a hypocrite. I bet you don't even have anything against piracy. Let me guess, you also think that when one business steals future profit from another business by luring in a customer that had thought about going to the other business is fine. You support thieves who steal potential profit. For shame.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    2. Re:Funny... by DickeyP · · Score: 1

      You're correct, I was a hypocrite....back when I pirated music. Since then, I've stopped. I took responsibility for my actions and decided that I would vote with my wallet instead. I don't post about all this "potential profit" bs because that's what it is....bullshit. A product is only worth what someone is willing to pay. And how is competition in the market even relevant to piracy?

    3. Re:Funny... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      When someone goes to one business to buy a product instead of going to another business, the first business has stolen potential profit away from the other business because the second business would have had more money if the person went to buy the product there, instead. It relates to the "potential profit" thing. Which pirates are clearly stealing, because they certainly aren't stealing anything else.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    4. Re:Funny... by suik · · Score: 1

      "potential profit" is impossible to measure. so ...? if I go by a window there's a "potential" I'm going to jump from it ... yet it never happens.

    5. Re:Funny... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Oh, please. The "potential profit" argument used most by us piracy haters destroys any arguments you pirates have, clearly.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
  24. Leaked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Maybe they should have uploaded it on Wikileaks. ^^

  25. A few other things this proves: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This of course also proves that:
    DRM doesn't work
    It's the evil DRM that causes people to pirate
    It's the price that makes people pirate
    It's the quality of the game that makes people pirate
    It's the lack of demos that makes people pirate
    Piracy is just a trial! I'm sure after a month of playing, people are sure to go out and buy the game when it finally comes on sale!
    Piracy is good for sales! Why, all the people who pirated are sure to tell their friends how great a game this is. And I'm sure those friends would be more than happy to wait a month to buy the game, rather than just pirate it like their good friend did, because these people don't deserve free games like their pirate friend does!

    1. Re:A few other things this proves: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought this was a joke, but I dread thinking you are serious, and this bullshit makes sense to you.
      If this is true, explain why thousands pirated the humble indie bundle.
      It was 'pay what you want'
      it had no DRM
      there were demos
      they were critically and popularly acclaimed games.

      And yet still self-righteous assholes like you pirated it, and tried to shout to the world that it was justifiied.
      You are fucking scum.

      I bet you have never done a fucking days work in your lfie, and yet you feel entitled to take other peoples work for free. Go fucking play in the road you scumbag.

    2. Re:A few other things this proves: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh!

    3. Re:A few other things this proves: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I paid for it, then pirated it to save them bandwidth.

    4. Re:A few other things this proves: by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      "DRM doesn't work"
      Not in this particular example, but it does it every other example known to man.

      "It's the evil DRM that causes people to pirate"
      Sometimes, it is. Not all the time, though. Some people simply don't buy or pirate the game because they heard it would have DRM on it, and knowing it usually restricts what they can do with their own product, they decide not to buy it. Some people get angry that their most looked forward to game is going to have annoying DRM on it, and decide that they will pirate it since the pirated version will obviously be DRM-free.

      "It's the price that makes people pirate"
      Again, sometimes it actually is.

      "It's the quality of the game that makes people pirate"
      Sometimes.

      "It's the lack of demos that makes people pirate"
      Sometimes.

      "Piracy is just a trial! I'm sure after a month of playing, people are sure to go out and buy the game when it finally comes on sale!"
      Sometimes.

      "Piracy is good for sales! Why, all the people who pirated are sure to tell their friends how great a game this is. And I'm sure those friends would be more than happy to wait a month to buy the game, rather than just pirate it like their good friend did, because these people don't deserve free games like their pirate friend does!"
      Sometimes. Maybe their friends are like you.

      If you decide to spout anti-piracy idiocy at me, go read my previous replies first to find out why the "potential profit" argument holds no ground.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
  26. Pursue. In china. vietnam ... by unity100 · · Score: 1

    pursue if you can find them ...

  27. "Information wants to be freeeeeeee...." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what are you going to charge the "stealers" with - taking 1s and 0s? What crime has been committed? "Halo" can be copied without cost to anybody. I wasn't going to buy it anwyay. Let's get into a long and pointless discussion on the differences between 'theft', 'piracy', and 'copyright infringement.' "Can't win, don't bother". Boldrin and Levine nonsense pseudo-intellectual anti-copyright argument.

    have I missed any?

  28. outsourced? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if they outsourced part of the development to India... my company did that once... and a few months down the road our software was suddenly available on filesharing networks for free.

    Big surprise!

  29. Misleading headline by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    I went scouring the torrent sites just to realize there was no PC port yet...

    Thats what I get for trying on my eyepatch before the coffee.

  30. you need to do a JTAG MOD to use your own HDD? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    you need to do a JTAG MOD to use your own HDD?

    Why can't M$ be like Sony and let you use your own HDD?

  31. Come, genie! Get back in the bottle. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is said to be "aggressively pursuing" whoever grabbed the files without their permission.

    Yes, that does them a lot of good...

    --
    Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  32. Original Uploader likely MSFT or Bungee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What better way to uber-banhammer XBL than a situation like this? It's not like the leak will actually hurt potential sales.... Pirate != Lost Sale ... they wouldn't have bought it anyway... they're pirates.... If the tech didn't exist to "backup" games, these people would probably just borrow the game from a friend at some point - not to copy, but simply to play it through.

    Halo 2 was leaked in much the same way, but somehow it still set a record for the best-selling game at that time. Like it or not, Halo is the Harry-Potter of video games.

  33. I hope bungie really does lose cash because of thi by Hojima · · Score: 1

    halo 3 was a good game. But then Bungie decided to make the piece of shit game known as ODST. Not only did it suck so bad my friends went out of their way to stop me from getting it, but now they have it so that you can't play certain multiplayer game types without the maps from ODST. That's right, they held their own fucking game that I paid for, hostage to getting the expansion. Now I can only play 2 game types with my brother on social. Me and my brother really enjoyed the beta for reach, but if they pull this shit again I'm never purchasing another Bungie game ever (my brother's friends have already decided to do that).

  34. And i thought the hackers were full of shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When i read the hackers got it from their servers but didn't want to release it i thought BULL SHIT.

    Then i got to play firefight and co op campaign last night and i even got to use my new 8 gig flash drive to do it :D

  35. Re:bypass personal download codes??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, a guy with a -1 posting level accusing the moderation system of being injust. How quaint.

  36. no problem there ... by suik · · Score: 1

    they probably organized the leak themselves ... if not they should be proud of the enthusiastic public demand.

  37. Re:bypass personal download codes??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "injust" isn't a word, idiot...

    Oh... well, it's in the Merriam-Webster Unabridged dictionary along with a lot of other arrangements of characters that apparently aren't words either.

    you are NOTHING.

    Ah, that's what we were waiting for!

  38. Re:bypass personal download codes??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and no other dictionary includes the word, including the merriam-webster online dictionary.

    you're an idiot.

  39. Re:bypass personal download codes??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "injust" isn't a word
    includes the word

    You just contradicted yourself. First you said it isn’t a word. Then you called it a word. Who’s the idiot?

    including the merriam-webster online dictionary

    Incorrect. It is most definitely in a “Merriam-Webster online dictionary”: the online edition of the Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary. The word isn’t in the “free Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary”, but that isn’t what you said.

    In any case, I’m sorry you choose to cripple yourself by only using dictionaries that contain the commonest words.

  40. Re:I hope bungie really does lose cash because of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Halo 3 WAS a good game. It was even better when it was called Halo: Combat Evolved.

  41. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia Halo Leaks You!

  42. Re:bypass personal download codes??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the string of letters

    the word

    omg u did it again lol wtf pwnt noob.

  43. Re:bypass personal download codes??? by M.+D.+Kristopeit · · Score: 1
    you could say something that wasn't a word, but if i were to quote you, that quote would include words.

    you're an idiot.