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Digital Devices Deprive Brain of Needed Downtime

siliconbits writes with an excerpt from NY Times: "Technology makes the tiniest windows of time entertaining, and potentially productive. But scientists point to an unanticipated side effect: when people keep their brains busy with digital input, they are forfeiting downtime that could allow them to better learn and remember information, or come up with new ideas."

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  1. oh rly? by Pojut · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why do you think I run Windows? ::rimshot::

    1. Re:oh rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let me check my brains uptime ... 36 hours, needs a reboot.

  2. I take several short naps a day by FudRucker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I lay down on the couch several times a day for 10 to 30 minutes and close my eyes, it does not matter if I fall asleep or not, just the act of closing my eyes and letting my mind rest does wonders for recharging my energy levels and clearing my mind of noise & clutter.

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    1. Re:I take several short naps a day by Moryath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If only most of us could do that, rather than having shitty pointy-haired micromanager bosses who insist on minute-by-minute "productivity" scales.

      The day the 'worker productivity index' was invented was the day society started going to hell.

    2. Re:I take several short naps a day by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I once heard a tale of someone who when faced with a boss who demanded updates every 15 minutes on what he was doing wrote a script which strung together meaningless management buzzwords in a vaguely sensible format and emailed them to his boss every 15 minutes.

      a few weeks later he gets an award for being a team player and keeping his boss in the loop.

      It's not like the boss ever reads them after the first day.

    3. Re:I take several short naps a day by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just set a couch as your screen background...

    4. Re:I take several short naps a day by wfstanle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps the idea of the "seista" was right!

    5. Re:I take several short naps a day by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because his boss also had a script, which tested the updates to see if they included meaningless management buzzwords in a vaguely sensible format.

  3. Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2

    This is the very reason I don't have a cell phone* and haven't used an instant messenger in years. It is also the same reason that I only check personal email at most once a day (They call it mail for a reason). If I'm at home or the office than the land line works very well - if I'm not there than I'm busy anyway.

    *People ask how can you manage that - I tell them it's a little secret called forethought or planning.

    1. Re:Instant distractions by PocariSweat1991 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is the very reason I don't have a cell phone

      I met a gentleman last night who recently purchased a Droid phone and claimed that it's the first mobile phone that he's ever owned. When I asked him why he didn't own one before, he responded:

      "I thought cell phones were only useful for buying drugs."

      I think he also has a 5-digit slashdot user id

    2. Re:Instant distractions by halfaperson · · Score: 5, Funny

      *People ask how can you manage that - I tell them it's a little secret called forethought or planning.

      I usually tell them it's a little secret called "no friends".

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    3. Re:Instant distractions by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I thought cell phones were only useful for buying drugs."

      There's an app for that.

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    4. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah - it's real friends. They care enough to be reliable, know the contingencies, and not be offended if something crazy happens.

    5. Re:Instant distractions by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is the very reason I don't have a cell phone

      You know, cell phones have a very useful functionality: You can switch them off. The advantage of a switched-off cell phone vs. no cell phone is that you can quickly get a working cell phone in case you need one: Just switch it on. Moreover, you get great times between battery recharges this way.

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    6. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, and Barbie for the girl friends. How do you know my system so well?

    7. Re:Instant distractions by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I use a slightly different mechanism: I turn the ringer to silent, and don't empty my voice mail. If I see you've called *and* I actually want to talk to you, I'll call you back.

      The problem is, I loathe telephones. Typically, when the phone rings, it's because someone expects me to drop whatever I'm doing RIGHT NOW and attend to whatever it is they need. Worse, when I'm talking to people on the telephone, they tend to feel slighted if I don't give them my full and undivided attention. So if I'm at work trying to, you know, work, and my phone rings, the expectation is that I will immediately cease work to chat/be a chimney while they vent/solve the world's problems/whatever. Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon, but I find that rather irritating.

      I much prefer text messages or e-mail, since I can look at it and get back to you when I actually have the CPU cycles to devote to whatever it is you need.

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    8. Re:Instant distractions by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never mentioned anything about people who generally use cell phones. I'm sorry if it was taken otherwise. My "flame bait" footnote is actually only directed toward the subset of people who find it absolutely inconceivable that anyone could successfully manage one's life without a cell phone. I've been attacked by that type of person as if I had suggested something absurd such as not immunizing children. It was not my attempt (or in my text) to disparage the usefulness of cell phones. I had one for a while, but I got rid of it based on cost/usefulness for my lifestyle.

      Flexibility in communication is valuable, but it does have a certain cost - typically $500 to $1000 a year (and a contract), although there are sometimes lower cost options for maybe $100 to $300 a year depending on what type of prepaid contract is offered in one's area.

      Flexibility can also be built into plans. For example if my friend(s) are late to the restaurant I can go in so as to not lose our reservation. After say five to fifteen minutes I can ask to borrow the restaurant's phone to call the friend. If no answer I can decide (with the people with me if there are others) to order appetizers and wait longer, order the whole meal (possibly something for the missing friend), or tip the waiter and let someone waiting actually have the table so they can eat. It's possible that we all know where to go after dinner too. I have found that plans can break down with and without portable communication. There is also the fact that under-planned events (I'll meet you at the fair vs. I'll meet you by the long haired rabbits) can break down because someone forgets a phone, the battery dies, or the signal is wacky.

      You also lose the middle range of spontaneity if you don't have a cell phone. If you are in the neighborhood you would have to find a pay phone first before being able to call a friend to drop in or meet at a local coffee shop. You can still go for the bigger option of ringing the doorbell (possibly already having acquired two coffees). Again - you can have that range back for about $500 to $1000 a year.

      Managing life without a portable phone is perfectly reasonable for many people (not so reasonable for the traveling repairman). It can take a little more thorough planning and a little more flexibility if plans go wrong (contingencies - planned and spontaneous), security in one's ability to deal with problems that come up (hyperbole: walk in a straight line, living off the land, until you hit the ocean, then follow the coast until you hit a town with a phone), and enough confidence (in yourself and your relationships) that you don't feel the compulsion for instantly available communication. Having a cell phone doesn't mean you don't have any or all of the above routinely going for you, but people who don't believe that it's possible cope without a cell phone seem to do so out of a deficiency of one of the above.

  4. tl;dr by gandhi_2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    NPR had a long thing on this the other day. Supposedly it kills our attention span. Or something, tl;dl.

  5. Wow by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did Slashdot just advise us to cut back on Slashdot?

    1. Re:Wow by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but it explains why in Soviet Slashdot, the same old jokes rehash you!

      We're not capable of being creative enough to think of original jokes.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    2. Re:Wow by Psmylie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why spend all that time and energy creating new jokes when recycled jokes is so much more efficient? Think green, dammit!

      People often overlook the horrible environmental effects of joke pollution. Re-using old jokes instead of letting them just litter our society could reduce that significantly, and also save many old comedians from complete extinction.

      Won't someone please think of the old comedians?!

      I re-use old jokes all the time. Just ask my wife. She'll tell you all about it. At length, apparently.

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  6. I'd be fine by ooji · · Score: 2, Funny

    if it wasn't for http://xkcd.com/386/.

  7. Going for a run or a ride... by txoof · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really value my exercise time for this 'down time.' I can't stand running with headphones because I can't get lost in the moment. Going out for a nice long run (or a walk) on Sunday morning when you have a problem to mull over is just about the greatest way to find some insight and a new angle on it. I've composed term papers and had some wonderful insights into my life and relationships while on runs.

    As I get older, I also find that I need to turn off more and more distractions if I really want to get anything serious done. I close the web browser, turn off the IM and silence the phone (I'd turn it off, but it takes so freaking long to reboot, it's obnoxious). I remember a time in my youth that I'd have 12 things going on at once, watching TV, playing video games and maybe even music running somewhere. I think I was being productive, but looking back, I question that. Perhaps my abilities to 'multi-task' have diminished as I've aged, but I think that I've just become more adept at recognizing shoddy work. What about you all? Have you fond that as you get older, you need more quite time to think than you did when you were younger? Do little distractions like email and IMs really cut into your productivity?

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    1. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by txoof · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahh - Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.

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      This one's tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen... --Hobbes
    2. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you fond that as you get older, you need more quite time to think than you did when you were younger? Do little distractions like email and IMs really cut into your productivity?

      I'm 24 now. As I've grown out of my college years I've noticed this to be true. I can turn out more stuff (poetry, blog updates, electronic gizmos, whatever I'm working on) if I keep the instant messengers closed. I also like to have my door closed because my roomate has a bad habit of popping into my room to show me "the funniest thing ever" on Youtube which is usually a 10 second clip of someone injuring themselves. I don't really have the problem with music though. However, I do make a point to tune my internet radio station to a type of music that would make an appropriate soundtrack for whatever I am working on (for instance, if I am writing up a short story about a swordfight, the music would be some kind of kick-ass symphonic metal, or something similar). I do notice, however, that as I get older I have more of a tendency to turn on music and just stare at a wall while sipping a nice glass of whiskey. I used to always just think of music as appropriate background noise. These days I treat it almost like T.V., where I want to take the time to get lost in it.

    3. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I sit out on my balcony a couple of nights a week with a fine single malt and a fine cigar and just watch the world go past. When I was telling one of my friends he was amazed that I could sit for so long without doing anything. I can't understand how he's so constantly doing things.

    4. Re:Going for a run or a ride... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I was telling one of my friends he was amazed that I could sit for so long without doing anything. I can't understand how he's so constantly doing things.

      He might be distracting himself from the reality of his own thoughts. If you tend to have an overly self-critical personality, or if you are generally unhappy about your present life situation, then sitting and doing nothing can afford you the opportunity to face the unpleasant thoughts that can come with such territory. Similarly, if your friend feels lonely, sitting around alone would afford him the opportunity to ponder his situation, which he may not want to do. I know I've had periods in my life where I had to keep myself distracted in order to avoid facing the pains that come along with heartbreak, a loss of a friend, etc. Watching the world go by, as you describe, tends to let reality settle in on one's self-awareness. That can be a hard thing to cope with.

      Alternatively, your friend might just be the kind of person that values action above thought. There's nothing wrong with that, and I would wager that constantly doing things helps to fulfill your friend in ways nobody but himself understands. Ah well, to each their own.

  8. More than that by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read the article on the New York Times yesterday, but I've been thinking about this a lot lately in general, and I've come across some pretty interesting stuff. For instance, its pretty obvious that computers give off a lot of blue light. Apparently someone decided that blue LEDs meant high tech and so devices get fitted with them all over the place. Blue light in particular is linked to suppression of melatonin(source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11487664). Particularly low levels of melatonin have been observed in patients with various degrees of ASD, including slashdot's favourite asperger's (source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17505466).

    So, my contention is that the "rise in autism" that seems to be so prevalent these days is probably a result of children basically being deprived of proper darkness, being surrounded by light from computers, tv, video games, etc. I've started taking melatonin supplements as since I got back into IT work about two years ago and spending much more time on computers, I've been sleeping a lot less and feeling generally less sociable. My memory has gotten shot, etc. Could just be that I'm getting older, but I'm only 26... I'm not that old. When I get a break away from computers, take some time out to sleep, and get outside in the woods then I can generally shake the effects off in a day or so, but when I was a kid the world wasn't nearly as surrounded by computer technology in all its myriad of forms as it is today, where kids are basically handed a DS right out of the womb. I didn't see a gameboy until I was about 7 or 8, and it had a monochrome screen with no backlight.

    And no, I don't mean a break from work. I mean a break from computers. It's not just being at work -- when I'm at work, its light outside anyway. I mean no laptop, no fancy phone, no nothing. Go away for a few days and leave that stuff behind, because if I'm just at home on the weekend and spend a lot of time plugged up, then I don't feel any better for not having been at work.

    The way kids are today, with all their gadgets and gizmos can't possibly be any better for their brains than it is for their bodies, not playing outside nearly as much as they used to.

    Stories like this match up pretty well with my own anecdotal evidence, not that it means much, but when I find NIH studies that seem to point to much more extreme versions of what I've seen, even in myself. Like I said, the effects on an adult are likely to be temporary, but our brains had time to mature before being mushed up.

    1. Re:More than that by OffaMyLawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe that is why my work gave me this nice laptop with all the blue LEDs on the touch bar...

      On a more serious note though, I do have to agree with you. I spent a week on the beach in OBX with the family, didn't take my laptop, had my phone with me but left it in the house we rented, just kicked back and listened to the ocean with a beer in my hand. I felt a million times better after that, so I definitely agree that it's a good idea to just get away from technology completely ever so often.

      Sometimes even small breaks can help, like taking the kids to the pool for the day, going out and flying kites, or anything else just to get out of the house and away from the noise.

  9. Um no... not really.... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is not like before "digital devices" people would sit around doing nothing for "downtime".. Before pocket toys that look for our attention people had a list of tasks they had to do. Instead of wasting time sitting there playing plants-vs-zombies they read a book or talked.

    My downtime is usually under a car or elbow deep in a motorcycle doing high level brain activity compared to what any digital device causes.

    This is all bull-cockey. If anything the digital devices are making people stupid because they dont have to actually work for or retain any knowlege.. they certianly are not causing us to lose downtime, as humans by nature dont do brain downtime. Hell when we sleep we dont even have brain downtime.

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  10. Re:I can daydream listening to mp3s by east+coast · · Score: 4, Informative

    Meditation should cause you to become aware of your environment and not let the mind dwell on other issues. It's about focusing on "being here now." What you're doing is spacing out. They're not the same thing.

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    Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
  11. Eh by Jethro · · Score: 4, Informative

    I heard an interview with the guy who wrote that book on NPR yesterday. Practically every sentence he spoke contained a "Maybe" or a "We don't know for sure" or an "It's possible that..."

    His entire interview was preceded by him saying this is all theories and may not be correct at all and that there's actually no scientific proof of any of this.

    So, grain of salt.

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    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
  12. Time spent in the bathroom? by iknowcss · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think a study should be done that correlates smartphone ownership with time spent per bathroom break. I think you all know why.

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    Life is rarely fair. Cherish the moments when there is a right answer.
  13. related article about rafting trip by peter303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Several high-power professor types go "off the grid" on a backcountry rafting rafting trip. Initially there was some anxiety about being incommunicato, but it fades quickly.

    I notice the same. I think about work the first day of a backcountry trip or vacation. But then stop thinking about work by the second day.

  14. Re:Please by nomadic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Uhhh yeah...it must be the sitting-on-the-sofa-collecting-your-thoughts-for-a-few-minutes lobby, releasing a biased report to support their industry.

  15. Re:Please by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Funny

    So....that would be IKEA? :)

    I never trusted those swedish bastards! Curse them and their delicious meatballs!

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  16. Re:Please by SleazyRidr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Time to change your sig again ;)

  17. Source code by mangu · · Score: 5, Insightful


    #include <time.h>
    #include <stdlib.h>
    #include <stdio.h>

    #define kase(tipo,stmt) case(tipo):{stmt;break;}

    char *a[10] = {
    "in particular",
    "on the other hand",
    "however",
    "similarly",
    "in this regard",
    "as a resultant implication",
    "based on integral subsystem considerations",
    "for example",
    "thus",
    "in respect to specific goals"},

    *b[10] = {
    "a large portion of the interface coordinated communication",
    "a constant flow of effective information",
    "the characterization of specific criteria",
    "initiation of critical subsystem development",
    "the fully integrated test program",
    "the product configuration baseline",
    "any associated supporting element",
    "the incorporation of additional mission constraints",
    "the independent functional principle",
    "a primary interrelationship between system and/or subsystem technologies"},

    *c[10] = {
    "must utilize and be functionally interwoven with",
    "maximizes the probability of project success and minimizes the cost and time required for",
    "adds explicit performance limits to",
    "necessitates that urgent consideration be applied to",
    "requires considerable systems analysis and trade off studies to arrive at",
    "is further compounded when taking into account",
    "presents extremely interesting challenges to",
    "recognizes the importance of other systems and the necessity for",
    "effects a significant implementation of",
    "adds overriding performance constraints to"},

    *d[10] = {
    "the sophisticated hardware",
    "the anticipated next generation equipment",
    "the subsystem compatibility testing",
    "the structural design based on system engineering concepts",
    "the preliminary qualification limits",
    "the evolution of specification over a given time period",
    "the philosophy of commonality and standardization",
    "the top-down development method",
    "any discrete configuration mode",
    "the total system rationale"}; /* orders: abcd, dacb, bacd, adcb */

    main()
    {
    int n, order, w, x, y, z;

    srand(time(NULL));
    for (n = 0; n < 1000; n++)
    {
    if (!(n % 10)) printf("\n");
    w = rand() % 10;
    x = rand() % 10;
    y = rand() % 10;
    z = rand() % 10;
    order = rand() % 4;
    switch (order)
    {
    case 0:
    printf(" %c%s, %s %s %s.", a[w][0] & 0xDF, a[w] + 1, b[x], c[y], d[z]);
    break;
    case 1:
    printf(" %c%s, %s, %s %s.", d[w][0] & 0xDF, d[w] + 1, a[x], c[y], b[z]);
    break;
    case 2:
    printf(" %c%s, %s, %s %s.", b[w][0] & 0xDF, b[w] + 1, a[x], c[y], d[z]);

    1. Re:Source code by tom17 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      similarly the fully integrated test program recognizes the importance of other systems and the necessity for the top-down development method