Slashdot Mirror
Steve Jobs Tries To Sneak Shurikens On a Plane
An anonymous reader writes "Steve Jobs, while on a family vacation to Japan in July, picked himself up some Shuriken, otherwise known as Ninja throwing stars, as a souvenir. In his wisdom he decided to put them in his carry on luggage for the return journey. As it was a private plane he probably thought there would be no issue, but he was wrong. Even private plane passengers have to have all their baggage scanned, and the throwing stars were detected and deemed a hazard. It's alleged that Jobs argued that he could take them on the plane as no one could steal them on his private jet and use them. Security at the airport disagreed and demanded he remove the stars. Jobs, clearly angry at losing his throwing weapons, stated he would not be returning to the country." Undoubtedly this is part of the iNinja project.
Check out the new hit movie, Shurikens on a Plane!
this makes the front page why? Its common knowledge...don't bring sharp objects into airports unless you are checking the bag.
“Steve did visit Japan this summer for a vacation in Kyoto, but the incidents described at the airport are pure fiction. Steve had a great time and hopes to visit Japan again soon.”
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100914/qotd-the-ninja-throwing-stars-they%E2%80%99re-for-my-friend-larry-ellison/
He needs the shuriken for his upcoming bout with Richard Stallman, who's ninja skills are well-known.
I am officially gone from
Jobs, clearly angry at losing his throwing weapons, stated he would not be returning to the country.
And then he threw a Shuriken at the press, just to make the point clear . . .
Jobs with shiriken; Balmer with chairs . . . who wins . . .?
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Steve Ballmer was recently forbidden from trying to sneak chairs onto a plane.
I'm just not sure how I feel about hipsters whipping these out on subway trains the way they do those other cool-affirming gadgets.
Kansai is a public airport, and the spokesman from Kansai (quoted in the article), said "The airport doesn’t have separate boarding arrangements for private- jet users", so i don't see why Jobs was surprised.
Since it's a public screening point (where presumably the private jet passengers can mix with the regular commercial passengers after screening), they have to apply the same security restrictions to all passengers. Otherwise anyone who wants to get a bomb on a public plane would just charter a private jet, go through security with his bomb, then hand it off to someone in the public terminal.
I'm sure that if he really cared about the items, he could have arranged to have them sent to his plane as checked luggage (it's not as if his private jet was going to leave without him), or he could have found someone willing to mail them to him. Heck, he could have found an apple fan-boy in line in the terminal who would have checked them and mailed them to him from the USA for the chance to shake his hand.
I just want to clarify that this is absolutely *not* how things work in the United States.
In the US, if you're flying privately, you walk through the lobby of whatever FBO (Which is a company that provides fuel, a pilot lounge, catering, etc.) your plane is parked at, smile at the person behind the desk, get on your plane, and leave.
Jobs was right to think that he could get on the plane with his stars because, usually, he would be able to.
NewslilySocial News. No lolcats allowed.
Wired had a big write up how Steve doesn't put plates on his car and feels free to park in the Handicap spots at will at his companies. So why would this surprise anyone.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/the-mystery-of-steve-jobs-plateless-benz/
Way to be timely Slashdot - AppleInsider has already reported that the story is bunk. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/14/steve_jobs_prevented_from_bringing_throwing_stars_on_private_jet_report.html
Obviously these are prototype case designs for the iPhone 5. Grip it the wrong way and you lose a finger.
The only possible reason that this particular item would have made it off the Firehose is the flame-inducing material within it. It makes me sad. While I'm no fan of Apple, per se, I feel sorry for the guy. He could have investigate the local laws and policy before challenging them, and will absolutely be returning to Japan at some point, but still this is genuinely trivial.
Maybe 'Idle' material, but 'Apple'? Trolling, plain and simple.
Airport security is one of the most ridiculous & arbitrary things I've ever had to deal with. I went to a conference in San Francisco last year, and bought my in-laws a Golden Gate Bridge snow globe. The security goons deemed it a security risk--too much fluid apparently, even though it was pretty small--so they informed me that I could either leave my place in line & mail it, or I could surrender it. I spent about $5 on it, so I wasn't going to spend $10 to mail it, so I told them to keep it. The year before I had brought home a snow globe from Las Vegas without problem. I wasn't paying close enough attention, because they confiscated the rest of presents I had bought as well, including t-shirts & Ghirardelli chocolates. Basically, they stole about $100 from me. I can picture them now laughing as they ate the chocolates while using the t-shirts as napkins...
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
iBitch
The idea of "Post-9/11" is bullshit. For one it is his own property he isn't endangering others. Secondly, the world isn't safer due to all this security theater and imperialistic wars. The thing that changed on 9/11 is now if someone tries to hijack a plane people are going to tackle them and pin them to the ground. People now associate hijackings with that they are going to die no matter what they do, and not the idea that they should comply with the hijackers, wind up in Cuba and be on a plane home in a day with a wild story to tell to the media. No, if someone even remotely tries to attack a plane the passengers will prevent that. -THAT- is why we haven't had another 9/11.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
California state law forbids manufacture, sale, possession or import of any shuiken, star, diamond, trefoil or other edged weapon used for throwing. So it's just as well it was confiscated at the airport.
But seriously, if you take something prohibited past a checkpoint, even though you will be flying on a private jet, you still could pass the contraband to a person who is flying on another aircraft. Steve forgot to pack his souvenirs and is upset they were taken away. I would prefer it if they offered a service (for a fee) that let you mail the confiscated materials to yourself. Fedex should just open up a small shipping office next to the airport security gates.
I've taken firearms on trips, it's simple, you walk up to the counter and declare that you will be traveling with a firearm. They send you off to another line, verify that it is unloaded, wrapped it up with gobs of tape and dump it with the rest of the luggage. If I can drag some guns along, I'm sure Steve can figure out how to bring some edge weapons along.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
I hope he wasn't planning to fly directly to California with them, because they are restricted here.
There are many exceptions to that rule listed in the following sections, but I'd be surprised if any of them apply in this case.
I fly on my companies private planes all of the time, including international flights and my bags have never been scanned.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
All I have on my maps are the US and outside of that "Here be Dragons".
Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
Checked bags generally allow whatever is legal to import/export with only a few restrictions (live ammo, I believe, must be locked separately from the locked container with the weapon). Declaring a firearm is an excellent way to ensure that your bag isn't lost by the airline.
Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
no, in the US he wouldn't go through any screening. In fact you can hire private planes and take what you want on them.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
I just flew on a private jet, and they didn't scan shit of mine. In fact, they even talked about how people had smoked weed on their jets before. So I call bullshit -- something's wrong in the summary.
-Clio
Karma: Bad (mostly from not giving a fuck)
Blog: http://clintjcl.wordpress.com
Where can we download the Shuriken app? And how do they recommend holding it to ensure proper operation?
Have gnu, will travel.
Next up: Steve Jobs arrested on charges of indecency after being found naked in his bedroom.
Or maybe TSA didn't get the memo? At what point did he think bringing a pointed/sharp object on a plane was a good idea anyway?
Apparently at no point--the story is false. Please read the other comments before commenting.
I wouldn't want some un-medicated postal worker to carry them on my flight.
But it wouldn't have been your flight; it was HIS PRIVATE FLIGHT. Please also read the article before posting.
"We can categorically state we have not released man-eating badgers into the area." - UK military spokesman, July 2007
I fail to see the faulty logic even if this story is made up which it appears to be. If he was going to mix with the commercial passengers in the same exact secure area you might as well have no security at airports at all if you're going to let someone into that area with weapons. And while maybe you're a proponent of having no security check at airports that's a different argument entirely, and not faulty logic with the current situation. Whether it's a TSA worker, a janitor, a private jet owner, the pilot of a plane or a regular economy class chum, if they aren't all checked before entering a secure area then the area isn't secure for anyone anymore.
Yes, you should refuse. If enough people refuse to fly until the rules are changed, the airlines will apply their lobbying dollars to getting it done.
And yes, the logic was deeply faulty. The purpose of the ban is to prevent the plane from being taken over by terrorists. Do you think Jobs would have gotten very far threatening the passenger (himself) with the shuriken (NOT a deadly weapon) if the pilot didn't obey him (the owner of the plane and the pilot's boss for the flight)? DUHHH.
Meanwhile, just how much fear could you have struck into the hearts of the other passengers by threatening to brush your teeth? Probably not as much as you'd cause by causing a spare laptop battery to "vent with flame". As for the nail clippers, just what did they think you were going to do with those?
The rules do nothing to make anyone safer on the plane, they just let politicians crow about how they did something and allow more massive quantities of public money to be funneled into sweetheart deals and NOT spent on things that would actually help the public.
No, the problem is that the story is false. Incredible how much bloviated nonsense has accumulated in this thread for something that never happened.
An adult would have realized the rules are there for public safety
Only if they are a stupid adult, one dumb enough to fall for "good security is occasionally obnoxious, therefore anything obnoxious must be good security"
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
Apple Inc. Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs said he’ll never come back to Japan after officials at an airport barred him from taking Ninja throwing stars aboard his private plane, SPA! magazine reported in its latest issue.
"SPA!" means "The Onion" in Japanese.
Set your phasers on "funky"!
he was holding them wrong
So were Molly and Armitage on the plane too?
http://michaelsmith.id.au
Private tarmac.
And there's the difference.
If you are flying out of an FBO, even at a big airport like BWI, then you get to bypass airport security. However, TFS said Jobs was flying out of the public terminal. At Kenai Municipal Airport, in Kenai, Alaska (much smaller than BWI; I've been to both airports), some of the private, chartered flights board through the same gate as the passenger flights. In that case, yes, you would pass through airport security. If you are in a small, private airplane like I was, you go out a different door to a different ramp on the airport (if you go into the terminal at all), and you don't pass through security. So it all depends.
MCSE? No, sir...I don't do Windows. Yes, I am an idealist. What's your point?
In 2003 I brought back shurikens from Japan in my carry on luggage. They showed up on the x-ray, and I just told the guy they were souvenirs and he had no issue with them.
Actually, we never had a 9l11 in 50 years preceding it, despite the fact that it was just as easy. 9/11 was a lucky fluke, a super ambitious prank-style act of terrorism that took a lot of planning but took the top prize ever in such acts. We had no reason to expect it to happen in another 50 years, especially since it relied on surprise. I agree with this post that hightened security has not played a significant role in stopping another 9/11. Nor have any of the costly wars. But some people have to say the opposite in order to hide their own guilt of taking the side which wasted so much money on nothing (gained). These people scream that such actions do buy us security in order to save their own faces.
OK a new size TV
Observe how the headline places Jobs, who for once is the innocent victim, in the role of the malefactor.
Apple has already issued a statement denying this story as "pure fiction." Amazing how much we want to believe rumors like this, though I did hear that something similar happened with Richard Stallman and a katana.