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Seven Words You Can't Say On Google Instant

theodp writes "Back in 1972, Georgle Carlin gave us the Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television. Thirty-eight years later, Valleywag reports on The Definitive List of Words Google Thinks Are Naughty. You've probably noticed how the new Google Instant tries to guess what you're searching for while you type — unless it thinks your search is dirty, in which case you'll be forced to actually press ENTER to see your results. Leave it to the enterprising folks at 2600 to compile an exhaustive list of words and phrases Google Instant won't auto-search for."

257 comments

  1. Extension by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can somebody make a Chrome extension to get the data automatically (without pressing enter), pretty please?

  2. From the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    white Power (but not "Black Power" - it's all in the marketing, after all)

    1. Re:From the article by darthdavid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or the fact that, you know; blacks are a minority, have been historically oppressed, are still the subject of discrimination and were the subject of much greater discrimination when the black power movement was at it's peak popularity. And lets not forget that 99% of the people who use the phrase 'white power' are openly racist dickheads.

      Certainly, if there was, full stop, no discrimination against black people, 'black power' would be just as racist as 'white power' but as it stands there's a pretty big difference between a rallying cry to defeat historic racism against your ethnicity and a rallying cry to reinstate historic racism against anyone not of your ethnicity.

    2. Re:From the article by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The results are going to disappear if the bulk of the returned links are Adult-Oriented, it has nothing to do with the Keywords you type.
      There is no magical 'banned list'.
      They probably use the same metrics as their 'SafeSearch' algorithm.

    3. Re:From the article by jonbryce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unless of course you are in Zimbabwe were the white minority is being suppressed by the black majority

    4. Re:From the article by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If I type in "I hate cheeseburgers", it doesn't show me the results. Yet when I press enter all the results are completely benign. Even if I cut it off at "I hate", the results are still rather safe.

      If they are really doing as you say, then their algorithm for determining "naughty" things is more wacked than my mothers.

      --
      "linux is just DOS with a UNIX like syntax" -- Galactic Dominator (944134)
    5. Re:From the article by operagost · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No, I'm pretty sure that racist creeds are racist by definition. Preferring one over the other is the definition of racism.

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    6. Re:From the article by Shakrai · · Score: 0

      blacks are a minority, have been historically oppressed, are still the subject of discrimination

      I'm the subject of discrimination based on the crimes of people that shared my skin color. I'm to be penalized when I apply for school or employment because I'm a white male. This is in spite of the fact that my ancestors came here from Germany in the 1930s and had absolutely nothing to do with Jim Crow or slavery. Hell, even if they did I'm pretty sure that corruption of blood is not compatible with a Democratic Republic.

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      We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
    7. Re:From the article by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 1

      Yea I dunno, I just don't believe there is a black list. There are too many issues associated with white/black lists.

      Try changing your safesearch settings to High and compare the search results, even though the sites look benign, there might have some racist comments or something that prevents it from showing up.

      'Hate' is a pretty strong word that will return tons of crazy results.

    8. Re:From the article by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      Searching "I hate cheeseburgers" with no safe search, and "I hate cheeseburgers" with 'strict' safesearch seems to return me the exact same page of results. Honestly I don't think I've often seen that happen, so maybe something else is going on. *shrug*

      Anyway, this brings up a good point. Why don't they just do this when safesearch is turned on, and leave the results alone when it is turned off? Isn't this exactly what safesearch is for?

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      "linux is just DOS with a UNIX like syntax" -- Galactic Dominator (944134)
    9. Re:From the article by darthdavid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm just as against that as I am the discrimination against minorities in this country.

      If white Zimbabweans need a rallying cry though, I'd personally suggest one with less... unfortunate implications... than are attached to 'white power'.

      Trying to use 'white power' for anything but a racist cause these days, well, it's like if your parents named you Adolf Josef Stalin Hitler Fuckthejews McFaghater, it doesn't much matter how sensible a platform you run on, come election day no one's gonna tick a box next to that name, too many bad connotations. Best just do distance yourself from the whole fiasco if you want any credibility, ya?

    10. Re:From the article by darthdavid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      See if you can spot the difference...

      X Power! We Xs have been oppressed for too long! Within living memory our ancestors were explicitly legally discriminated against. Their grandparents were held a slaves. Even today we make up a disproportionate percentage of the prison population, face gaps in education, employment and wages and suffer numerous minor acts of discrimination on a daily basis. We must keep fighting until we have equality!

      Y Power! We Ys are the master race! Those dumb fucking Xs should go back to their rightful place as our slaves. If we have to kill a couple of 'em to make it happen, well you have to break a couple of eggs if you're making an omlette. And if they've tasted too much freedom to get back under the yoke where they belong? Well I guess they'll all just have to fucking die. Not like they're proper humans anyway, untermensch that they are...

      Now tell me again, why you think these are the same thing? (In case you're especially dense, we're talking fucking iridium here, just because a statement is racist in one context doesn't mean it's racist in every context. If a minority group is being discriminated against they pretty much need to pull together and make their voices heard to make that discrimination stop. It's like the difference between pulling a gun on someone to mug them and pulling a gun on the guy who's trying to mug you. In an ideal world no one would need point a weapon at anyone else (or call on people by their racial affiliation) but when people seek to do you harm sometimes unfortunate measures need to be taken.)

    11. Re:From the article by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      blacks are a minority

      So are Muslims, but I'd bet people would get upset at "Muslim Power".

      have been historically oppressed

      So have the Jews. What does historical oppression have to do with the present? When "Black Power" came to be, discrimination against blacks was entrenched and pervasive, but it simply isn't the case today. Racial discrimination is blatantly illegal in the US. That's not to say that racism doesn't exits, but I suspect there are more blacks who hate whites for their color than whites who hate blacks. IMO anyone today (not 1965, but now) who espouses either White Power or Black Power is a racist, plain and simple.

      That wasn't the case when there were "whites only" signs, Jim Crow laws, and lynchings, but those are all things of the past.

      Today, classism is far more pervasive than racism, and just as evil. It, unlike racism, is not only accepted but exalted by our mammon-worshiping society.

    12. Re:From the article by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 1

      I bet we are both wrong.

      Just like all things computer-related, there is no magic bullet answer.

      Now I believe there is a rudimentary blacklist that immediately cuts out improper results, but then additionally performs a 'SafeSearch' pass on your data. (you can almost tell it is calculating something, because the 'Click Enter to Search' is delayed, indicating it is doing something)

    13. Re:From the article by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 1

      also, yea, if Safe Search is off, just gimme my results.

    14. Re:From the article by wastedlife · · Score: 1

      In every connotation that I have seen, both "black power" and "white power" are used by racial supremacists. "Black Power" is not a rallying cry to defeat racism, it is just as bad a slogan as "white power". No race or creed should strive for power over another, they should strive for equality in all matters. As mcgrew stated above, there are other minority races and creeds that are also highly discriminated against, that could not get away with "muslim power" or "jew power" or "hispanic power", etc.

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    15. Re:From the article by GottMitUns · · Score: 1

      Stop lying! White people are the minority! Whites constitute only about 10% of world's population. Only 3% of babies born every year are white. Stop spreading hatred and lies!

    16. Re:From the article by GottMitUns · · Score: 1

      That is racial discrimination! Google is a racist organization!

    17. Re:From the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... things is more wacked than my mothers.

      Exactly how many mothers do you have?

    18. Re:From the article by idontgno · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They're not mutually exclusive; the rhetoric of example "X" above has been used in recent history in support of exactly the same vile and evil racism as example "Y" above.

      "German power! We Germans have been oppressed for too long! Within living memory our ancestors were explicitly legally discriminated against!..."

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    19. Re:From the article by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 1, Troll

      Amazingly, Barry Hussein Osama, I mean, Obama didn't have any problem getting those ticks next to his name. I don't mean that as a political slam, just saying that to me and maybe others Hussein and a last name that sounds really close to Osama would have negative connotations, but he's still in the White House.

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    20. Re:From the article by TheCarp · · Score: 2, Funny

      While very true.... it actually is kinda sad that thats true. One genocidal madman wears a toothbrush mustache and now nobody can rock the toothbrush. I dunno about you, but I always liked the toothbrush and occasionally silently lament that I can never even consider sporting it in peace.

      -Steve

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    21. Re:From the article by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      I tried that once, kinda, and it was actually referred to (by one guy) as a 70s porn star mustache instead of a Hitler mustache

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    22. Re:From the article by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      This *is* very interesting.

      Sure, $minority has historically been screwed, and $majority has not. However, is this a guarantee for the future?

      However, "historically" is a key word. Things are hardly perfect today, but I think most anyone will find them to have been vastly improved. Thus, striking back at the people who are currently members of $majority seems to have “punish the child for the sins of the father” threads running through it

      Also, “two wrongs don’t make a right” : "A doctrine of black supremacy is every bit as evil as one of white supremacy." - MLK

      Bad tactical decisions by people in $minority may trigger backlash from people in $majority, thus in a practical sense not helping the situation. Even on moral issues, I strive to think realistically.

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    23. Re:From the article by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      So, you're complaining that you're a child punished for the sins of a relative's father?
      Similarly, not all nonwhites descend from someone screwed by the past system.

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      I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
    24. Re:From the article by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Dominant/majority versus nondominant/minority is an interesting detail discussion.
      Yes, there are "interesting" demographic trends, with those in immigration being related to fertility trends you reference.

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      I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
    25. Re:From the article by psithurism · · Score: 1

      white Power

      Well know I know google doesn't send any traffic to my white-energy projects. And all that brainstorming to come up with a catchy name.

    26. Re:From the article by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      At which point everyone slowly began backing away from the guy with the 70s Nazi Porn fetish.

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      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    27. Re:From the article by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      While blame can often be predominately assigned to one party or another, even the vast majority thereof, it just doesn’t make sense to assume that one party is _completely_ responsible and the other not. In a practical & tactical sense, does both sides need to agree to play along?

      Then again, the tactical disagreements (how to address racism) could grow into strategic disagreements. (in this context, what to think of racism itself), and those with strategic issues might well try to downplay them as just tactical issues. However, I don’t want people with tactical disagreements tarred and feathered as having strategic disagreements.

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      I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
    28. Re:From the article by Cederic · · Score: 1

      if there was, full stop, no discrimination against black people, 'black power' would be just as racist as 'white power'

      It is just as racist, irrespective of whether there is discrimination against black people.

      What the fuck is with the whole "Black people can't be racist" bullshit? People can be racist, whatever their colour.

      Discrimination doesn't justify discrimination. In other words, don't give me shit because Hitler was a cunt, because lets face it, Idi Amin wasn't a Nobel Peace Prize winner either.

      Anyway, I've never met a black person. Met many brown ones though, and had a girlfriend that was a lovely milky coffee colour. She was into bondage too, and if you want ethical issues, just start considering whether it's oppressive for a white man to be putting a mullato girl into chains because she gets off on it..

    29. Re:From the article by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Nazisploitation films?

      Nah, that guy's a joker, I just took it as a sarcastic way of saying that I needed to shave.

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      I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
    30. Re:From the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless of course you are in Zimbabwe were the white minority is being suppressed by the black majority

      ...wait, what? What's next, whites are being suppressed in South Africa because apartheid ended?

    31. Re:From the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A british comedian, Richard Herring, has started wearing one in an effort to reclaim it for comedy. He was wearing it on an episode of Have I Got New for you earlier this year (which was repeated a couple of days ago, so should currently be on iPlayer for anyone in UK who wants to check it out) and described Hitler ruining its use for comedy as "possibly the worst thing he ever did".

    32. Re:From the article by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Comedy? I always just thought it looked cool.

      Though, truth be told, I doubt it would look good on me. My face really looks best with a goatee or full beard. I shaved down to a mustache last year so I could be William Murderface for halloween. The consensus was that I should never go fully clean shaven again.

      -Steve

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  3. OK, it's not a bug by Darri · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guess I'll discard the "always have to press ENTER" bug report.

    1. Re:OK, it's not a bug by SimonInOz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Some years ago, I wrote an Internet chat system for a major Australian bank (which bank? No comment). Ok, innovative enough at the time, but not too exciting.

      But here's the interesting bit - they sent me a list of words they considered offensive. I had to write a special scanner to handle this - the most challenging part being dick. I was supposed to reject "dick", but accept "dick smith" [which is a major Australia techie shop, equivalent to Tandy or Radio Shack, perhaps] .

      So anyway, I was left in possession of a list of words banks don't like. Maybe I should publish it.

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    2. Re:OK, it's not a bug by kill-1 · · Score: 1

      I once read a similar story about Bloomberg filtering emails. The result was that users couldn't enter completely legitimate company names like "FAG Kugelfischer" (from Germany).

    3. Re:OK, it's not a bug by tom17 · · Score: 1

      I believe Scunthorpe in the UK had similar problems in the early days too.

    4. Re:OK, it's not a bug by mysidia · · Score: 1

      It's not a list of words banks don't like... it's a list of words someone at the bank you were writing software came up with, when some manager decided 'we need to filter the chat content'.

      Just like Google's "list" is probably something one or two people came up with, and that various managers [or other people] at time to time decide certain words need to be added to, and just send someone an email "hey add this word to the list", and it gets added after the proper approvals are signed.

      In such situations, the list does not necessarily represent something the industry collaborated on and decided was offensive, just ad-hoc lists exist, you know.

    5. Re:OK, it's not a bug by greed · · Score: 1

      In a similar vein, I long ago heard the story of the news agency that reported a company was "in the African-American" after their spell checker had made a replacement suggestion. I figured it was just an urban legend (after all, that would be a style checker, not spelling).

      So a friend is registering blackSOMETHING.com at a well-known but somewhat annoying registrar. It comes up with the upsell list of suggested other domains to give them money for. At the end is:

      africanSOMETHING.com
      africanamericanSOMETHING.com
      africancanadianSOMETHING.com
      caribbeanSOMETHING.com

      I could barely stop laughing long enough to say, "I didn't know that really happened!"

    6. Re:OK, it's not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dick Smith? Ar they for real? [they are]
      Um, can a lady place an order with them?

    7. Re:OK, it's not a bug by tom17 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pint of the African-American stuff please bartender!

    8. Re:OK, it's not a bug by hedwards · · Score: 1

      That must've been a pain. I suppose that you would've been in trouble if somebody typed in: "Hi I'm Dick." and it chopped that out.

    9. Re:OK, it's not a bug by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Samuel Jackson beer, then?
      It's good motherfucking beer; it'll get ya drunk

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      I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
    10. Re:OK, it's not a bug by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      I've been auto-kicked from IRC channels a couple times by typo'ing "account" as "acocunt"

      There ought to be a Consbreastutional amendment addressing this problem...

      --
      I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
    11. Re:OK, it's not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol! I used to work at that bank (which bank indeed!) and they had the most terrible IT infrastructure security - boot security controlled by post-booth accesible batch scripts, open telnet servers available within their external-facing IP range, and best of all I could C&P the Lotus Notes DB of pretty much anyone who worked there, which gave me rw access to their emails. Hilarity ensued... only worked there for a few months while I saved funds to go to law school (ironic I know) so no damage done. I've still got a no-fee staff account though - some 15 years later, despite telling them to close it!

    12. Re:OK, it's not a bug by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      I hope you didn't make any clbuttic errors while coding that.

    13. Re:OK, it's not a bug by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      That must've been a pain. I suppose that you would've been in trouble if somebody typed in: "Hi I'm Dick." and it chopped that out.

      No kidding he would have been in trouble: just ask Lorena Bobbitt.

    14. Re:OK, it's not a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very interesting story.
      Once I was given a list of words found to be profane by the Numinous Council of Half-headed Unicorns.
      Maybe I should publish it.

  4. Dear Puritans by MRe_nl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please stop trying to make everybody a victim of your own personal frustrations.
    It's not our fault you can't get laid.

    --
    "Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
    1. Re:Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sometimes search for porn in languages other than English. The filters are always tuned to the country's primary language.

    2. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why does everyone assume that Puritans never got any?

      "On many questions and specially in view of the marriage bed, the Puritans were the indulgent party, ... they were much more Chestertonian than their adversaries [the Roman Catholics]. The idea that a Puritan was a repressed and repressive person would have astonished Sir Thomas More and Luther about equally."

      C. S. Lewis (1969). Selected Literary Essays. New York: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 052107441X. Page 116–117

      As long as they kept it in their pants until marriage, sex was considered a Gift From God.

      Seriously... RTFHB

    3. Re: Dear Puritans by MRe_nl · · Score: 4, Funny

      Puritans are less repressed and repressive than Roman Catholics.
      This is your endorsement? Hahahahahaha.

      --
      "Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
    4. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why does everyone assume that Puritans never got any?

      It's a fact. They are pure and abstinent, just like their parents, and their parents before them.

    5. Re:Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This slashdot story was only put up to induce exclamations of superiority from the leftoid assholes that most slashdotters are... and over and over you're too happy to take the bait.

    6. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, you're quoting C.S. Lewis here... Not exactly my go to guy when it comes to the topic of sex... I somehow doubt he wrote the Screwtape Letters in assless chaps or visited the local swinger's club.

    7. Re: Dear Puritans by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As long as they kept it in their pants until marriage, sex was considered a Gift From God.

      I bet if you asked the Puritan's wives, you'd get a different story.

      Anyway, C.S. Lewis is not known for truth-telling so much as comforting fairy tales, and yes I'm referring to his non-fiction essays.

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    8. Re:Dear Puritans by arthurpaliden · · Score: 1

      A few years ago I came across a site that people could put photos up on. The photos were rated either 'Pruitans' or 'Everyone Else'.

    9. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a fact. They are pure and abstinent, just like their parents, and their parents before them.

      Immaculate conception, proof they are gods people.

    10. Re: Dear Puritans by jonaskoelker · · Score: 3, Funny

      *** ABBEGIN (stack underflow) ***

    11. Re: Dear Puritans by Four_One_Nine · · Score: 1

      Seriously... RTFHB

      Funniest thing I've read in a long time. Well played.

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    12. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does everyone assume that Puritans never got any?

      because the Puritan population seems to have dwindled?

    13. Re: Dear Puritans by radtea · · Score: 1

      Why does everyone assume that Puritans never got any?

      Because they hated any public display of sexuality or any expression of sexuality outside of church-sanctioned marriage.

      While it is true that within marriage they were a lusty lot, their rabid insistence that everyone else play by their rules meant that many people assume they were sexually frustrated themselves, which they probably would have been had not they generally married relatively young.

      Also, because God for some unaccountable reason left the germ theory of disease out of the Bible, childbirth was a very high-risk event, particularly due to post-partum infection. Ergo, there were many unmarried older Puritan males about who couldn't have sex within marriage because their wife was dead.

      So being sexually active only within highly restricted context of a non-traditional marriage[*] is hardly a recipe for sexual satisfaction generally. Rather the opposite, if the divorce rate is any indication.

      [*] I say "non-traditional" because the Puritan, and modern, notion of monogamy is quite unusual, the traditional marriage consisting of one man, his wife, his household servants and slaves, the stable-boy, his concubines, and his livestock.

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    14. Re:Dear Puritans by KnownIssues · · Score: 1

      I don't see this as being a concession to Puritans. If I'm looking for sextants, I have to type "sex" first. If that autocompleted, I would certainly not want to see those results while I was typing. It's one thing to show results that aren't necessarily relevant while I'm typing, it's another for those to be "adult" in nature. What if I'm searching while at work? Or what if it's my kids doing a search?

      This could be as simple as adding a setting that let's you check a box to let you have porn show up in your results when you're in the muddle of typing "cummerbund". That way everyone can be happy.

    15. Re: Dear Puritans by LordLimecat · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I can tell you havent read very much of his work, as you wouldnt classify it primarily as "tales" or "truth telling". He dealt heavily in reasoning and logic in many of his books; while he did delve into theology on several occasions, you dont look at a book like "The Screwtape Letters" (or "Screwtape Proposes a Toast") and say "oh, thats a fairy tale" because it instantly brands you as someone who doesnt understand metaphor, allegory, and other similarly difficult literary devices.

      I would also point out that what "C.S. Lewis is ...known for" isnt decided by you, but public consensus; I will note that his fiction seems to be an afterthought in the Wikipedia summary:

      CS Lewis... was an Irish-born British novelist, academic, medievalist, literary critic, essayist, lay theologian, and Christian apologist. He is also known for his fiction....

      (wikipedia, emphasis mine)

    16. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >theologian
      Okay...

      >Christian apologist
      Alright...

      >known for fiction
      Yes, you've already said that.

    17. Re:Dear Puritans by QuantumBeep · · Score: 1

      There's always somebody who desperately needs to search for sextants and chicken breasts. I say we rename those two things so the algorithm works.

    18. Re: Dear Puritans by operagost · · Score: 1

      Ergo, there were many unmarried older Puritan males about who couldn't have sex within marriage because their wife was dead.

      Unless you can find me documentation that shows Puritan widowers weren't allowed to remarry, I call BS. Regardless, if this is one of the beliefs they held, it's not biblical. BTW, the bible actually says that women should be quarantined for a minimum of seven days after childbirth. Following this recommendation may have helped.

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    19. Re: Dear Puritans by Sylak · · Score: 1

      Puritans were (as far as I know) the only Christians to officially say that sex while courting or engaged isn't a sin of instant hellfire, although it wasn't exactly encouraged in the former state. The only being catch is that if you don't marry the person you knock up both of you are going to Hell, which was actually the problem with the situation in The Scarlet Letter (not that she was necessarily adulterous)

    20. Re: Dear Puritans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is that what god looks like?

    21. Re: Dear Puritans by supercrisp · · Score: 1

      As part of my graduate study, I happened to notice that in Puritan communities in New England many births were recorded less than nine months after marriages were recorded. Co-sleeping was an allowed, normal practice. They even had a special board called a "bundling board" that they would put between the co-sleepers to prevent funny business. Must have been some knotholes.

    22. Re:Dear Puritans by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Actually, "breasts" was found to not be blocked.

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    23. Re: Dear Puritans by Esteanil · · Score: 1

      Puritans eat a lot of fruit and procreate by mitosis, fully in keeping with their literal interpretation of the Bible.

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    24. Re: Dear Puritans by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      That's a really asshole thing of you to say about a Puritan woman who had a premature baby :-[

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    25. Re: Dear Puritans by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I can tell you havent read very much of his work

      I made it clear that I was referring to his essays and not his fiction. Lewis was a special hobby of mine many years ago when I was wrapping up my PhD in critical theory. Very specifically, I found his essays an Christian apologia to be trealcy bumfodder meant to comfort other Christians so they could believe they were being intellectually rigorous while they were really just telling themselves tales about how superior they were.

      His kind of "liberal" Biblical interpretation served only to create happy crap for people who only wanted to think so far, and no further. His map of criticism was dotted with places where "there be monsters" because he knew that to go that way would invite questions about his faith that he did not answered. He was smart enough to see where the future headed, but not brave enough to go there.

      And yes, his fiction was very much an afterthought. Maybe not to him, but certainly to those who've read widely.

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  5. Is tit wrong.... by MountainMan101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just love the endless amusement of typing "Is it wrong..." into google and seeing the list (to sleep with my dog/brother/mother).

    Well done Google.

    1. Re:Is tit wrong.... by ZeRu · · Score: 1

      I just love the endless amusement of typing "Is it wrong..." into google and seeing the list (to sleep with my dog/brother/mother).

      Well done Google.

      And my favourite is: "is it wrong to sleep with your step dad after your mom dies"

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    2. Re:Is tit wrong.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why, thank you. i guess i'll waste some tome in this now. i actually started with "is it", and got some gems like

      is it possible to have purple eyes (after observer has taken some drugs ?)
      is it easy to be young (ok, this at least is the name of a movie...)
      is it friday yet
      is it monday (gotta be a hard day)
      is it just me
      is it getting better

      interestingly, "should i" gives "should i write him" as one of results. "should i write her" is not there.

    3. Re:Is tit wrong.... by gearsmithy · · Score: 1

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this entertaining.

    4. Re:Is tit wrong.... by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      I know entering "Obama is " brings up some entertaining results, but here's a nice (perhaps unfortunate if you're at work) effect - When I type "Bush is " in the search bar, without pressing anything, the first search result is:

      Bush is back! - Sex News, Sex Talk - Salon.com
      Dec 11, 2008 ... Not in the White House. But thanks to the recession, women are skipping the Brazilian and finally growing a little hair down there.

    5. Re:Is tit wrong.... by tsalmark · · Score: 1

      Do you perchance have step daughters?

    6. Re:Is tit wrong.... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      That's just because the bible doesn't include a command line interface.

    7. Re:Is tit wrong.... by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      I just love the endless amusement of typing "Is it wrong..." into google and seeing the list (to sleep with my dog/brother/mother).

      What you are describing is not Google Instant.

    8. Re:Is tit wrong.... by sorak · · Score: 1

      I love the way "I'm feeling lucky" appears next to each suggestion.

    9. Re:Is tit wrong.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How do I" is another good one

    10. Re:Is tit wrong.... by steve.howard · · Score: 1

      An apt typo. According to Google, "tit" is, in fact, wrong.

    11. Re:Is tit wrong.... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      That's just because the bible doesn't include a command line interface.

      Oh, I don't know about that. God says "Do this" and people either jump to it or frogs / lightening / scary angels / Baptists will dump down on their heads. Sounds like a command to me.

      You're just jealous because when you type something into your wimpy command line interface, you just get a little 'beep'.

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  6. I'm surprised. by stimpleton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read the list. I was expecting words that usually mean something everyday but have broadened to include potential offensive material. Amateur for example.

    What surprises me is the list includes words where the definition would have to be known, and the person consciously wants to find the subject matter. a2m for example.

    But its broader. A few choice ones on the list: fecal(legitmate medical/anotomical usage), lesBian, and finally, redtube gets the censor treatment.

    I like the comment next to "cucold" - this one dates back to 1250, but it dies here.

    And google has the gaul to climb on a soap box about censorship, the great wall filters of Australia etc.

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    1. Re:I'm surprised. by Necroloth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      is it censorship when they still allow you to search the terms?

    2. Re:I'm surprised. by jimthehorsegod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      is it censorship when they still allow you to search the terms?

      Yes, in some cases - FTFA:

      However, even when your request isn't blacklisted, you're not getting the SAME results that you would get by hitting return. Entering "murder" into the search bar gets you suggestions of mostly band names. It's only after you hit return that you can learn the other sinister meaning of the word.

    3. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      And google has the gaul to climb on a soap box about censorship, the great wall filters of Australia etc.

      Grammar Nazi says: That's gall not gaul. Gauls are French people (technically some Germans are Gauls as well, but I digress).

      It's really not censorship, as they still allow you full access the content. They are just making sure that you have a chance to save yourself if you type 'goat selection' and miss the space :)

    4. Re:I'm surprised. by zwei2stein · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is not protection from naughty stuff, it is protection from embarassing searches.

      Say you are googling "Amateur Astronomy" with someone looking over your shoulder - do they really need to see "Amateur As" partial result (lots of porn links on that page)?

      They don't, neither do you. If you really want that result, press enter.

      Pretty much all of those terms lead to porn results on first page of searches (lots of seo power...).

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    5. Re:I'm surprised. by urodawdziek · · Score: 1

      yes

    6. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grammar Nazi says: That's gall not gaul. Gauls are French people (technically some Germans are Gauls as well, but I digress).

      What's that got to do with grammar?

    7. Re:I'm surprised. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's no censorship here. Merely hiding potentially unsavory searches from people that aren't looking for them. You can still reach everything you want to about amateur porn in Gaul, for instance, while I make fun of people that have the gall to come down on one side of a topic without apparently understanding it completely.

    8. Re:I'm surprised. by pitchpipe · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Say you are googling "Amateur Astronomy" with someone looking over your shoulder - do they really need to see "Amateur As" partial result (lots of porn links on that page)?

      I actually played around with this. If you pause, whatever google instant is suggesting that you search for becomes part of your browser history. So yeah, that could be a problem, especially at work.

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    9. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it'd be a spelling error if it was no word at all, but since 'gaul' is a word it's closer to a two/too/to situation.

      It's a pain telling the difference between the two, and it's got gray areas all over.

      Personally I use this Rule of Thumb: if your spell checker catches it then it's a spelling issue, if not it's a grammar problem.

    10. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gall not gaul

    11. Re:I'm surprised. by delinear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But the point GP was making is, if you want the full list you just have to hit enter. Effectively you just have to do what you would have had to do a couple of weeks ago before the new service launched. If we're already so accustomed to using live search that the gargantuan effort of having to hit enter to see results which some people might find offensive (and let's face it, the whole reasoning behind this is to prevent the even bigger public outcry we would see when little Jimmy starts typing his search for "cuneiform" for his school history project and risks going blind three letters in) is considered "censorship", then we probably have bigger things to worry about. Either that or someone with an agenda - a competitor or someone trying to sell clicks with censorship horror stories - is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

    12. Re:I'm surprised. by Stile+65 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure this is a feature, not censorship.

      Imagine being at work and searching for something like "white power cord" or something. Now, yes, you could go to Google Shopping to search for it, or turn off Instant if you're going to be searching for things like that, but most people won't, and do you really want your company seeing you search for "white power?"

      As an example, I'm going to be raising some chickens in a while so I was looking up "how to test for salmonella." The instant search suggestion when I typed the "s" in "salmonella" was "STDs." I'd rather not be seen searching for *that* at work.

      It just makes sense that Google would avoid doing things that'll trip up your company's web filters if you're searching for innocuous things that temporarily turn less innocuous due to Google's own features and default settings.

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    13. Re:I'm surprised. by DarkIye · · Score: 1

      True - and exactly the same thing could lead to varying degrees of trouble at work, due to automated systems or passers-by. Why hasn't Google made a statement to this effect, though? 'Trying to not offend people like pussies' was definitely the first impression I got.

    14. Re:I'm surprised. by V!NCENT · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it's basicaly a feature; What if you had to check something for school about different sexualities but before you finnished typing you get a list of all kinds of gay porn shit. Great succes when somebody else might be watching...

      That said you can still just hit the fucking Enter button and search it -_-'

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    15. Re:I'm surprised. by V!NCENT · · Score: 1

      stimpleton has got a human spell checker slave... great succes...

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    16. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if it is well-intended, it IS still censorship. It's just that we think it is perfectly normal to censor what kids are allowed to see/read.

      Thus, it is hypocritical of us to argue that this censorship (think of the children) is OK while the other (China needs to do it for national security reasons) isn't. Simply put, it is hypocritical to define censorship in terms of whether you agree with the censoring or not.

    17. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're weird. I often google stuff I'm curious about. Yes, I googled several of the words listed in the article and in comments. At work. So what? If my boss has an issue with me wondering what the hell "cucold" is, but won't mind me reading slashdot on my lunch break....well, let's just say *I* refuse to feel ashamed about it and I'll be mad at him for spying on me.

      Then again, I'm not american...

    18. Re:I'm surprised. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is still censorship when you hide something. This is very much analogous to the situation a few decades ago where some public libraries removed the card from the customer accessible index for "Lady Chatterley's Lover", and only lent it out if customers asked for it directly. That was deemed to be censorship even though the book was technically available.
      What Google does is almost identical -- you can only get the results by asking directly, where you can browse everything else.

      The big difference is that Google is a privately held company, which protects it for now (but its size and near-monopoly situation might cause this to change).

    19. Re:I'm surprised. by fbjon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How difficult is "hitting return to get full results"? Stop with the censorship bandwagon already, it's embarrassing when there is actual censorship going on in the world. And no, it's not a matter of varying degrees of it, this is barely even a metaphor for censorship.

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    20. Re:I'm surprised. by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

      Imagine now doing a search for "amateur pole vaulting"...

    21. Re:I'm surprised. by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      So your claiming that censorship is defined as; any search engine interface that uses more than the absolute minimum number of keystrokes?

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    22. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say word choice is more a matter of semantics than of grammar. A sentence can be grammatically perfect while still using the wrong words to convey what was intended.

    23. Re:I'm surprised. by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is not protection from naughty stuff, it is protection from embarassing searches.

      Yes, but not embarrasing for you, embarrasing for Google. Google doesn't want to have suggested to your children that they should be searching for "amateur ass". Google doesn't want to have suggested to your children that they search for "God is evil" in case some group is outraged at them for doing so - nobody is likely to have typed in "god is evi" if they weren't going there anyway, it's not going to embarrase you at work (or if it was then you wouldn't be typing it), but it's not something Google wants to have suggested.

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    24. Re:I'm surprised. by Dr.+Smoove · · Score: 1

      no, it likely has more to do with compute power, or possibly instant using a separate hash for searching than the regular search. Typical arm flailing about how evil google is.

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    25. Re:I'm surprised. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      VINCENT (1105021) wrote:

      it's basicaly a feature; What if you had to check something for school about different sexualities but before you finnished typing you get a list of all kinds of gay porn shit.

      Um, isn't "gay porn shit" perfectly valid in the context of "different sexualities"?

      To me, it looks like you're fine with hiding what you are prejudiced against (else, why bring up the word "gay" at all?). Which is up to you, of course, but then you have to allow for others to censor based on their prejudices.
      So it would be fine with you if the Google Taiwan hid search results if the user typed Falun, or Google Israel hid search results for Vayoel Moshe or Shatila?

      What's wrong in all cases is enforcing one's own convictions and morals on others. People have a right to live by their own standards, not what well-meaning politicians or trailer trash voters want for them. Let everybody have their own moral standards and prejudices, but don't ever let them enforce them on others.

    26. Re:I'm surprised. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      What Google does is almost identical -- you can only get the results by asking directly, where you can browse everything else.

      Oh come on. You know better than that. Think about what you're saying. What google does is nothing at all like a library hiding a book. Are you saying that before this "instant search" feature, Google was hiding the entire internet? And comparing google to a public library is just silly.

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    27. Re:I'm surprised. by digitig · · Score: 1

      Then you need to start using your other thumb. That was a semantic error, not a grammatical one. The grammar was fine (at least until the comma).

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    28. Re:I'm surprised. by jimthehorsegod · · Score: 1

      No my point was simply that unless you *know* that the results shown in the instant search are only a subset of the ones you'd get if hitting enter, it's (perhaps semi-unintentional) censoring the results. When you simply get no results and have to hit enter to see anything at all, fair enough - but in the example I quote, it's unreasonable to assume that everyone would realise that the results for "murder" are any different to "murder + CRLF"

    29. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn censors, censoring Microsoft from their instant search. Those Google miscreants! Try it yourself - start any search with "site:microsoft.com" and it is CENSORED from instant search! Microsoft should sue teh Google! Making users press enter is just too much to ask and will cause umpteen billion cases of carpal tunnel syndrome and other repetitive stress injuries.

    30. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how about that time you googled "ass bollards for sale", was your boss so understanding then?

    31. Re:I'm surprised. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      And google has the gaul to climb on a soap box about censorship...

      What is the connection between the people who lived in Western Europe and were conquered by Julius Caesar have to do with Goolge climbing on a soap box? Or did you mean "gall" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gall, third entry " Outrageous insolence; effrontery"?

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    32. Re:I'm surprised. by sed+quid+in+infernos · · Score: 1

      What's wrong in all cases is enforcing one's own convictions and morals on others. People have a right to live by their own standards, not what well-meaning politicians or trailer trash voters want for them. Let everybody have their own moral standards and prejudices, but don't ever let them enforce them on others.

      If this finger-wagging was meant to apply to Google's filter, then your definition of "enforce" is not one with which I am currently familiar.

    33. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      his what?

    34. Re:I'm surprised. by darthdavid · · Score: 1

      We've got a lot more moralistic assholes over here, especially of the 'think of the children'* sort over here. It's why everyone flipped shit because Janet Jackson showed a tit (with the nipple covered no less) on national tee vee. Hell, in most places you have to get a permission slip signed for sex-ed courses in school. It seems that a lot of people here in 'Murrica think that the slightest exposure to sexuality will turn little Johnny into a raving sex fiend, pants encrusted with semen from his constant masturbation (when he can't find someone to rape).

      *Obligatory 'fap fap fap'

    35. Re:I'm surprised. by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      What do you have against black power cords, racist?

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    36. Re:I'm surprised. by daisybelle · · Score: 1

      Well, technically speaking, anything to do with how language works is part of the grammar. Semantics, syntax and pragmatics can be considered various aspects of grammar, even phonology (but I think that's stretching it a bit). However in lay terms 'grammar' normally means only 'syntax', although sometimes includes 'morphology' too.

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    37. Re:I'm surprised. by ThatMegathronDude · · Score: 1

      Technically speaking, you're wrong. Grammar only deals with the syntax, not the meaning.

    38. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cuckold
      gall

    39. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, even when your request isn't blacklisted, you're not getting the SAME results that you would get by hitting return. Entering "murder" into the search bar gets you suggestions of mostly band names. It's only after you hit return that you can learn the other sinister meaning of the word.

      I get band names with "murd" (top suggestion "murderdolls"), the one about killing with "murde" (substituted to "murder"), and a blank out with "murder" (and hitting return brings up the results given with "murde"). Either it's changed, or valleywag got this wrong.

    40. Re:I'm surprised. by daisybelle · · Score: 1

      Sorry, forgot to mention I'm actually a syntactician. The grammar I use (Lexical-Functional Grammar) has two syntactic structures, a semantic structure, an information structure and a discourse structure, with some people using other linguistic structures too. Semantics is definitely part of the grammar, technically at least. Unless you're a Chomskyan I guess.

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    41. Re:I'm surprised. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Grammar Nazi says: That's gall not gaul. Gauls are French people

      Maybe he actually meant "google has the French people to climb on a soap box"? Or he didn't want anyone to think he was referring to outgrowths on the surface of lifeforms caused by invasion by other lifeforms. Gall also means wrath, bile, or a certain color of yellow. Or maybe he was referring to A programming library designed to aid development of applications that use genetic algorithms.

      Off course, he mite sim plea bee relaying two mach on hiss spill chucker.

    42. Re:I'm surprised. by AtomicJake · · Score: 1

      is it censorship when they still allow you to search the terms?

      No, it is not. And this is why this article is informative (Google Instant != Google Search results), but that's all.

      Then Google (and any other legally operating search engine) needs to NOT display some results is some countries - and I am not talking China here. As example, in Germany there is a list of results (maybe even of search terms?), which you are not allow to show. This is censorship, but censorship by the government.

    43. Re:I'm surprised. by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Making someone actual hit enter is not censorship.

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    44. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sheesh, you lazy ingrate. Is it really so hard to press the 'ENTER' key like you've been doing since you started using Google? Heck, like you've been doing since the very dawn of the computer age!

    45. Re:I'm surprised. by digitig · · Score: 1

      That just looks like a bid by the syntacticians to take over all of linguistics :-)

      Doesn't the semantic structure of the Lexical-Functional grammar just describe how meaning is formed, rather than describing what the meaning is? The sentence in question has a meaning whether it has "gall" or "Gaul" (albeit a rather surreal one in the second case). The s-structure will help you identify how those meanings arise, but it won't tell you which one the writer intended.

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    46. Re:I'm surprised. by V!NCENT · · Score: 1

      Errrrr.... I have nothing against anyone people that are sexualy attracted to their own sex, it's just that it's not realy socialy accepted, which can lead to possibly unwanted situations and assumptions.

      You have no idea how hard it is to get rid of that. Believe me...

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    47. Re:I'm surprised. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      They don't go well with all his Apple gear.

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    48. Re:I'm surprised. by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Censorship is something done by governments to their citizens under the threat of prosecution, if something is censored no search engine could legally show it to you. US decency laws that define what can and can't be shown on broadcast TV (Jackson's nipples) is an example of REAL censorship.

      If google did NOT show the "unsavory" results after hitting enter it's still not censorship, it's simply google excersing their right to control their own service offering within the law. Wether people can or cannot figure out how to use google's service is totally irrelevant.

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    49. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or an excuse

      Just remember to add a second complimentary safe search after every dirt one

    50. Re:I'm surprised. by daisybelle · · Score: 1

      I think it depends on what kind of semantics you do, although I think I tend to agree with you, since the semantics I know best is Glue, and they seem to be all about meaning construction... <pedant mode>But is there really a substantive difference between the output of a meaning constructor and a 'meaning'? </mode>

      Basically the error was a spelling error, and since the two words are homophonous, they'd be distinguished in speech through the plausibility of their lexical semantics.

      And google has the gaul to climb on a soap box about censorship, the great wall filters of Australia etc.

      (The grammar was fine (at least until the comma).

      Or we could diagnose it as a ~Freudian slip, or even that AC knows something we don't... Maybe Google does use Gauls to climb soapboxes and walls, who knows the full extent of their omniscience??

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    51. Re:I'm surprised. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Janet Jackson showed a tit (with the nipple covered no less)

      The nipple was not covered, but was adorned. It was clearly visible in the middle of the adornment. Though live, it looked like a pastey, the stills showed the true nature.

    52. Re:I'm surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They work just fine, but Apple charges $14.99 more to get a black one.

    53. Re:I'm surprised. by Synonymous+Homonym · · Score: 1

      If you pause, whatever google instant is suggesting that you search for becomes part of your browser history.

      I would consider that a feature. Poison everyone's cache with potentially offensive words, make it harder to identify those who dare seek what man was not meant to know.

  7. Test how much Slashdot allows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    B*lg**m.

    1. Re:Test how much Slashdot allows by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      B*lg**m.

      "Bill Gates" has two 'l' and ends in 's'.

    2. Re:Test how much Slashdot allows by V!NCENT · · Score: 1

      That's either Belgium, or B*l*g*0*m = 0

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  8. Fair enough by Nick+Fel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most people aren't going to want to accidentally see the contents of that list when they use Google at work, or with their kids. We've hit enter for years and survived, I think we can still manage it.

    1. Re:Fair enough by xSander · · Score: 1

      uh, was SafeSearch not enough? It's on by default.

      This reeks of censorship -- they should have an option next to the box to turn it off, like they had previously.

    2. Re:Fair enough by Haedrian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Many people have SafeSearch always off.

      This is to stop you getting porn when you're trying to look for something else - or someone is looking over your shoulder.

      Assignment will get you quite a bit of stuff by the time you typed the first three letters.

      And you can JUST PRESS ENTER. Wow, problem solved. Don't break your fingers buddy. Not censorship at all - its more a case of "Don't show me porn unless I ask for it".

    3. Re:Fair enough by elewton · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It's just too unpredictable.
      The above-mention "a2m" could easily be a part of a serial code I'm entering, and I appreciate google's assuming that, if I want potentially embarrassing content, I can be bothered to press enter.

      I also don't want to become sexually aroused during work, and appreciate this rare display of understanding of human nature.

    4. Re:Fair enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The above-mention "a2m" could easily be a part of a serial code I'm entering, and I appreciate google's assuming that, if I want potentially embarrassing content, I can be bothered to press enter.

      Furthermore, if you keep entering the serial code then Google might produce relevant instant search results. Consider the blacklisted word tittIes. If you enter titti, the search results go blank. If you add a b, you start getting results again. Interestingly enough, if you delete the b, to go back to titti, you get results that were suppressed before (and are, in this case, rather innocent).

    5. Re:Fair enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you can JUST PRESS ENTER. Wow, problem solved. Don't break your fingers buddy. Not censorship at all - its more a case of "Don't show me porn unless I ask for it".

      I'd go one step further: you had to press enter before instant search was introduced so why is it a problem now?

    6. Re:Fair enough by hedwards · · Score: 1

      That's a solid point, previously, this wasn't an issue as Google didn't show you anything until you pressed enter. Imagine all the times you were looking for information on rescuing swimmers and accidentally typed in "Pamela Anderson."

  9. This is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... I don't dare even to initiate a search on google for "child portraits"... by the time I finish typing all the letters, I'm afraid of my door being knocked-down.

    Oh, well... I'm more into nature landscape photography anyway.

  10. Nipples by Inda · · Score: 4, Funny

    I giggled like a little schoolgirl when I read that.

    We, the family, were talking about nipples last Sunday at dinner.

    Our guinea pig, Jason, died a few weeks back. We were never sure if he was a boy guinea pig or a girl guinea pig. My daughter, 10, said he must have been a girl as he had nipples. We all smiled and corrected her - boys have nipples too.

    Nipples. I'm still giggling like a girl (with nipples).

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    1. Re:Nipples by elmodog · · Score: 1

      Nipples. I'm still giggling like a girl (with nipples).

      Do girls without nipples not giggle?

    2. Re:Nipples by quenda · · Score: 1

      Nipples is an odd one - it is banned on 'instant', but not on 'suggest'.
      Google suggest offers sore, inverted, and pregnancy-related items.
      But every other word I tried from the list is banned on 'google suggest' too.

    3. Re:Nipples by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Do girls without nipples not giggle?

      Certainly not during the nipple-removing procedure.

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    4. Re:Nipples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where have I heard this before... (scroll to 'Lesson of the day #3')

  11. Google Morality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder what happens if someone searches for a word Google considers naughty, will they be categorized as naughty people?. Will they be subject to naughty commercials?

  12. Hot grits by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just checked "portman petrified hot grits" isn't blocked so obviously the censors are falling down on the job!

    1. Re:Hot grits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just checked "portman petrified hot grits" isn't blocked so obviously the censors are falling down on the job!

      Ah, no. I asked them to whitelist that one.

      Sergei

    2. Re:Hot grits by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they don't block beaver, however if you prepend it with "shaved " that is indeed blocked. Similar for donkey requiring something extra to get it blocked.

      Looks like they did at least put some effort into most of the terms to lessen the chances of doing that to something that's genuinely innocuous.

  13. Filter on results by golden+age+villain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could it be that this system blacklists the words based on the content to be displayed and not based on the input itself?

    1. Re:Filter on results by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 2, Informative

      Could it be that this system blacklists the words based on the content to be displayed and not based on the input itself?

      No. For example "amateur[anything]" is blocked. So "amateur", "amateur theatrics", "amateur night", "amateurish", "amateur diy" etc etc are all blocked. It's implausible to suppose that no combination produces acceptable search results. Also "[anything] is evil" is blocked. Thid is definitely a blacklist of search term patters, not results.

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    2. Re:Filter on results by Haeleth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Blocking "amateur" is interesting. The first page of Google results I get for the word doesn't include anything remotely NSFW -- but the related searches list is almost entirely related to amateur porn. I wonder if that's what's triggering the block.

      I certainly can't believe that Google would go with a static blacklist this complicated.

    3. Re:Filter on results by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      And"[anything] is evil"? e.g. "hatred is evil", "god is evil", "atheism is evil", "evil is evil", "slashdot is evil" are all blocked. Does absolutely any phrase ending in "is evil" always have undersirable related searches? It seems far more plausible to me for that one that they don't want Google to be seen to be 'suggesting' that something is evil when that something may be important to the person doing the search. Which suggests that at least part of this is a blacklist of search patterns.

      (And personally I don't find their actions here objectionable, but I do think that if that is what they are trying to do then it is essentially unworkable - okay "allah is evil" won't be suggested but I start with "allah is " and it suggests "satan").

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    4. Re:Filter on results by TimSSG · · Score: 1

      When entering "Bill Gates is" Google suggests "dead".

      Tim S.

    5. Re:Filter on results by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but "beaver" isn't blocked whereas "shaved beaver" is and "donkey" isn't blocked whereas "donkey sex" is blocked. It might not be system created black lists, but it's not particularly blind to context either.

  14. Stupidest censorship tag ever. by bistromath007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This has nothing to do with censorship. They just don't want people searching "assignment" to have their screen jammed full of porn before you finish typing.

    1. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I read this story years ago, probably in Electronics Australia. A science museum set up a computer terminal so that people could type on it and play with the buttons. Unfortunately school children left the screen covered with naughty words so a clever admin created a blacklist of words which could not be typed. Unfortunately there had to be a way to display and edit the blacklist...

    2. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fair enough; "ass" is a proper prefix.

      But what about terms like "bisexuality" that get censored as soon as you enter "bisex"? How many words starting with "bisex" that are NOT related to bisexuality are there? Checking Wiktionary, for example, it appears that there's none.

      Also, here's the current first page of results for "bisexuality", and as you can see, it does NOT contain any porn:

      * Bisexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality
      * Welcome To The American Institute Of Bisexuality - www.bisexual.org/
      * Bisexual FAQ - https://www.msu.edu/~alliance/faq/faqbisexuality.html
      * Straight, Gay or Lying? Bisexuality Revisited - New York Times - www.nytimes.com/2005/07/05/health/05sex.html
      * Bisexuality: A unique sexual orientation - www.religioustolerance.org
      * The Bisexual Index | What is Bisexuality? - www.bisexualindex.org.uk/index.php/Bisexuality
      * Bisexual Resource Center - Supporting Bisexual Community - biresource.net/
      * Bisexuality - Wikiquote - en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bisexuality
      * Bisexuality 101: Am I bisexual? - National Bisexuality | Examiner.com - www.examiner.com/bisexuality-in.../bisexuality-101-am-i-bisexual
      * WHAT IS BISEXUALITY? By Kathy Labriola - www.cat-and-dragon.com/stef/Poly/Labriola/bisexual.html

      So, what is the justification for censoring this term, given that A) there is no unrelated topic that you could be searching for when you type "bisex", and B) none of the results are offensive in any way, anyway?

    3. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      This has nothing to do with censorship. They just don't want people searching "assignment" to have their screen jammed full of porn before you finish typing.

      I agree that it isn't censorship but I think it's harder to work out what the intention is than that, For example patterns like "[anything] is evil" are blocked - I don't think that really fits in with your explanation. Whatever they're trying to do it doesn't look like they've done it very well.

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    4. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by tokul · · Score: 1

      They just don't want people searching "assignment" to have their screen jammed full of porn before you finish typing.

      Then enable safe search for by default and require users to login in order to disable it.

    5. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has nothing to do with censorship. They just don't want people searching "assignment" to have their screen jammed full of porn before you finish typing.

      They are suppressing information/search results, without the vast majority of people even knowing.

      What makes you think they'll stop there? Why not make every service Google squeaky clean to only provide a happy funtime family Internet?

      When THE search engine starts to sanitize web searches, you know the days of an open, free and varied Internet will be over. If Google hides content because somebody somewhere might object to it - due to their narrow-mindedness - it's as close to "removed from the web" as it gets.

    6. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by dissy · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "So, what is the justification for censoring this term"

      Because you can hit enter and see the search results on all of those terms.

    7. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Stile+65 · · Score: 1

      Some people don't like having their porn search history attached to their account.

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    8. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I have search that cen... removes the religious sites from my search. No, wait. I require that Google removes all religious search results.

      Yes I know, but I still call it censorship. You cannot suddenly change to meaning of the word when you do not like the context.

    9. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by delinear · · Score: 1

      Now that would be censorship, considering people generally don't want to be logged in and tracked while searching certain terms, requiring a login to search those terms would effectively prevent them conducting said searches. How is that better than just requiring that people hit enter?

    10. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one who read the list and learned new phrases? e.g. wrinkled starfish. I'd always heard of a chocolate starfish, which is not blocked.

      Also, doesn't google have a safe search option that self-censors its output?

    11. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you can hit enter and see the search results on all of those terms.

      You're being deliberately obtuse. What is the justification for (or, if you prefer, the reasoning behind) singling out certain terms like "bisexuality" (that is, the "bisex" prefix)?

      Obviously, the terms on this list aren't randomly chosen, and Google would likely not add, say, "apotheosis" unless the term somehow came to refer to a new sexual practice or something along those lines.

      So, again: why is "bisexuality" censored? Google made a conscious decision to do so, so they must have had certain reasons, and believed it to be justified to do so. What are those reasons, and what is their internal justification?

    12. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by digitig · · Score: 1

      But why do you have to? The supposed justification is that it protects you from stuff you might not want to see (or be seen seeing), but if you've typed "bisex" then there's no mistaking where you're going anyway so it's protecting you from nothing.

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    13. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by digitig · · Score: 1

      You're not the only one. "Rusty Trombone" was new to me.

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    14. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by hedwards · · Score: 1

      If they didn't do this they'd have to worry about popping up smutty results before you'd finished typing and how to figure out exactly where to draw the line.

      The big issue would be if you're typing in a search which would temporarily resolve to something illegal whereas the full search wouldn't. It's easier for them to temporarily block the search until you tell them to go ahead, than it is to risk being sued when somebody goes to prison when the search accidentally puts child porn in their cache.

    15. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a known issue and we're working on fixing it.

    16. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      If you are searching for bisex amphibians, having the gay porn pop up before you get to typing amphibians would be distracting at least.

    17. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      My natural assumption would be that, rather than "bisex," it is filtering "sex." Type those three letters in by themselves (and hit enter) and see what you get.

    18. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      pffft yeah, safe search totally works *rolleyes*

    19. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      They're not being sanitized! You just have to ask them to search instead of serving it up before you're even done thinking about it. Chill.

    20. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) As I noted above, there is no "gay porn" popping up there.

      2) "gay" and "bisexual" are not the same thing, anyway, for much the same reason that "bisexual" and "straight" aren't.

    21. Re:Stupidest censorship tag ever. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      1) There is only no gay porn because Google blocked it, which is the topic at hand.

      2) People don't equate two girls making out with one guy and each other as "bisexual porn." People do equate two guys making out with each other and one girl as "gay porn." I'm not arguing the definitions of them, but the perceptions. And you are wrong on both that and the previous point.

  15. If I were to guess by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They just took terms that have a high probability of having something many would consider offensive showing up in the first few results. You have to remember they haven't disabled the searches, just disabled the instant search (which I hate anyhow). So you can type in the search press enter and Google will search as normal. What it won't do is instantly search.

    That might be why there are some normally benign terms there, because when searched for they come up with potentially offensive links.

    I'm ok with this idea. They aren't stopping the terms from being searched for, they aren't reordering their search. They are just trying to make sure people don't accidentally see things that would get them mad at Google. While I'm a proponent of the idea that people should stop being so whiny and easily offended, that doesn't mean Google shouldn't be pragmatic about it. This doesn't really affect anything in the big scheme of things.

    1. Re:If I were to guess by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      It's a hack. Here they have this idea they can't use to its fullest extent because of societal "norms". Rather than putting out a dumb system that's predictable, they're having to put in all these exceptions.

      Right at the top of the list they have "are".

      Yes, as in "Are we there yet?" and "You are going to hurt yourself."

      Here's the entry from TFA:

      are (this is a VERY interesting one. if you stick "are" after the following words, the blacklist kicks in: jews, christians, catholics born-again christians, evangelical christians, atheists, muslims, blacks, italians, mexicans, chinese, japanese, germans, arabs, french. the blacklist does NOT kick in when these words are entered before "are": terrorists, scientologists, agnostics, seventh day adventists, jehovah's witnesses, mormons, protestants, evangelists, pentecostalists, columbians, panamanians, iranians, iraqis, koreans, persians, turks.)

      I don't even know what to say. It just seems arbitrary and... I don't know. The closest word that comes to mind is unequal. You can argue that it doesn't block searching for any of those terms but just tries to keep google from looking bad. From my PoV, it feels like limited protection for some and light censorship for others. They can tweak the list 'til the end of time but people will still game the system and vulgar shit will slip through.

    2. Re:If I were to guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did people previously search if they don't understand the concept of hitting enter - did they just type in the input field then dumbly sit there wondering what all the fuss about Google was? Besides, it's their search results, they can show whatever they please - if they just wanted to serve a single page result for every possible search which was a link to buy Google products, they're well within their rights. It's not censorship for a company to show you a restricted subset of its data - if the government was forcing them to do this then it would be censorship, or if there was no way to see the full results, then it would be censorship. Having one extra key to press to see your results is as close to censorship as newsagents placing adult magazines on the top shelf.

    3. Re:If I were to guess by bn557 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm guessing they have some algorithm that has blacklisted terms that the highest use patterns involve offensive material searches, regardless of the non offensive implications. Because they don't control their result ordering, these terms could provide offensive material in the future (or rather, are more likely to).

      All said and done, put me down in the `meh, doesn't bother me` camp though. I still hit enter with this due to the momentary lag between when I finish typing and the results showing up (slow internet connection).

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  16. I don't know which is more sad... by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

    I don't know which is more sad: Google thinking "lolita" needs to be protected or that the people keeping the list only know it as a reference to a film and never mention the book.

    I also don't know which is more sad: that the Spanish word for "black" is considered so offensive just because it might be used by a racist or that a word for rooster is considered offensive just because it could be used sexually.

    I just noticed, BTW, that even turning SafeSearch off doesn't prevent this particular Instant filter.

    Also, I noticed that not only is "latino" okay and "latina" not, but although "negro" is filtered "negra" is not. Probably because the first page of results are a commercial product (Negra Modelo beer)?

    I think their new addition is failing, too, because "marij" through "marijuan" give great results for "marijuana" even though "marijauna" itself is blocked.

    1. Re:I don't know which is more sad... by digitig · · Score: 1

      I don't know which is more sad: Google thinking "lolita" needs to be protected or that the people keeping the list only know it as a reference to a film and never mention the book.

      This is /. -- we all know it as a Haskell natural language processing engine.

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    2. Re:I don't know which is more sad... by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

      I think that somewhere above, it's been mentioned at least once or a hundred times, that this appears to be a feature to prevent accidental incorrect auto-completion guesses that might be not be appropriate or desired at work, school, with family, or other environments.

      Despite the fact that the examples you used have legitimate and non-offensive usages doesn't change the fact that they could also bring up undesirable search results as well. Harping on the fact that certain words are non-offensive in certain (or even most) contexts is sticking your head in the sand to this fact.

      You also seem to be ignoring the fact that sometimes a person might want SafeSearch off for their searches in general, but still might want it on for Google Instant. I'd definitely be in that group. I don't want my searches to be censored if I'm actually looking for something controversial, but I sure as hell don't want such things accidentally popping up from a wrong guess when I'm not searching for them (especially in certain environments).

      Maybe they should give an option to turn safe searching off on Google Instant for the people who are easily offended by Google's attempts not to accidentally offend them...

    3. Re:I don't know which is more sad... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Is that Spanish word blocked on the Spanish language site? I mean in English, there's little legitimate reason to use that word outside of writing a character that uses that sort of language.

    4. Re:I don't know which is more sad... by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      My thought was that they could filter the results for Instant rather than just returning nothing, or have some options for that behavior. Returning absolutely nothing just points out to people that there's something offensive connected to the typed characters anyway.

  17. Everyone is right but.... by Alexvthooft · · Score: 1, Troll

    Okay I know they are putting this on the blacklist, but it isn't like you can't search for it anymore.
    It's simply that 'instant' doesn't show it right away.
    In my opinion a good thing so that any child misspelling anything (cumeleon --> Chameleon) and stuff like that, doesn't get inappropriate sites right away.
    I think it's sort of a good thing.

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    1. Re:Everyone is right but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Porn does not harm children

    2. Re:Everyone is right but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Clueless.

      (Child) Porn does not harm children?

    3. Re:Everyone is right but.... by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      I would bet anything that if adults didn't make a big deal about sex (and porn), that child porn would indeed not harm them.

    4. Re:Everyone is right but.... by delinear · · Score: 1

      It does if they're at school when they bring up a page full of pornographic results just as the teacher looks over. Similarly if I'm at work there are certain results I would rather live didn't return by default.

    5. Re:Everyone is right but.... by Alexvthooft · · Score: 1

      Why oh why is it simply impossible to give ones opinion without being trolled immediately??? I can find nothing in my post to even suggest that I am trolling. So why?

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  18. Blacklisted? by nomad-9 · · Score: 1
    "Censorship", "Blacklisted", etc.. are too strong words to describe the simple act of having to type an extra Enter key.

    AFAIK, you still get your search results, so what's the big fucking deal?

    You want "pamela anderson" "naked" with her huge "titties" ? Press enter.

  19. Also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "loli" is also blocked. This may be why "lolita" was included.

  20. new porNographers by jamesh · · Score: 1

    browsed it briefly. Learnt a few new words.

    Kind of dumb that "new porNographers" was listed there, as "porN" is already mentioned on its own.

    Curious that "belgium" is deemed not offensive at all :)

  21. Not a blacklist as such... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it strikes me that this is not a simple list of words. Google most likely has either a list of porn sites, or a nice algo for determining if a site contains porn or not (srsly, you could just use web traffic and probably get a 90% correlation with porn sites).

    i think it's a matter of once your insta-search starts hitting known porn links (or other flagged sites) as suggestions, google chops the list off.

    that's how i'd do it, rather than employing people to run words through google and log the sites that come up.

    (lol, my recaptcha is "drilled". i wonder if that triggers it?)

  22. hmmm by ampathee · · Score: 1

    I wonder whether it's actually a manually maintained blacklist, or whether the decision to block the search is made after (automatically) examining the results generated by it.

    1. Re:hmmm by sam_handelman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I doubt the second - very processor intensive.

        However, I propose a third option, that the blacklist is automatically maintained.

        That is, they classify web-pages: offensive, Y/N? And then their index automatically tags terms strongly associated with offensive web-pages, which are automatically blacklisted. This is how you'd get "white power" (present on many offensive webpages), but not "black power" (present mainly in scholarly articles, let's be blunt). This is why you'd get "futanari" and not "hermaphrodite", this is why "schoolgirl" is offensive, etc.

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  23. Can't Search Family Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, now I can't find my Uncle Gay Man Anal Sex Insertion on the Web through Google! My grandparents admitted it was a poor choice for a name, but they never would have guessed this.

  24. Hit Enter? by dangitman · · Score: 1

    Don't you mean Return, bitch?

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    1. Re:Hit Enter? by mcgrew · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Return? Dude, I haven't even SEEN a typewriter in decades. None of the computers I use has a "return" key, all have an "enter" key. "Return" is short for "carraige return", where the "Carriage" is the roller on the typewriter that holds the paper.

      Return? How quaint...

    2. Re:Hit Enter? by WED+Fan · · Score: 1

      You actually have an Enter/Return key. The left pointing arrow found on the "enter" key is one of the accepted symbols for "return". It's just not spelled out.

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    3. Re:Hit Enter? by penguinchris · · Score: 1

      FYI, modern Mac keyboards (I'm typing on a MBP) have both "return" and "enter" printed on the key, and "return" is printed in larger type.

    4. Re:Hit Enter? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      So that's one brand of computer out of how many?

  25. finally an effective to disable google instant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    sweet now I just have to begin all my searches with '-a2m' and finally never be bothered by google shitstant search.

  26. # of 'banned' words books thoughts increasing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at least we're safe from being bombarded with the dirty truth?

  27. This is not bloody censorship by GauteL · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sometimes I get sick of the Slashdot knee-jerk mentality about anything that is remotely connected to free speech or censorship.

    First, many, many people surf the net with safe search OFF. This does not mean that you want porn showing up on every search, it doesn't even mean you want to get porn at all. You may simply want to make your own mind up about your search results. This works completely fine when you have to press enter to get your search results, because you can make a reasonably sound judgement about whether your search is safe before you press enter.

    When Google introduced instant, however, it suddenly wasn't so clear-cut. It would be ridiculously annoying if I had to make that judgement before every single letter I typed. It would also completely ruin the point of Google Instant, which is to make life easier for me.

    Google clearly decided that the most convenient thing for the vast majority of their users would be that they filter out naughty searches until you press enter. Perhaps they should have advertised this a bit more clearly, and perhaps they should allow you to turn it off, but overall this is a sensible solution and they can, in good conscience, claim that they still allow you to get all the naughty searches you want. You just have to press bloody enter.

    I actually hope Google doesn't give a toss about the tiny minority that gets worked up about this.

  28. Re: Try 'Google Sucks' by newviewmedia.com · · Score: 1

    Find it interesting that the term 'Google Sucks' is also not on instant. What happened to unbiased search results?

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  29. oh shit oh shit by eyenot · · Score: 1

    Oh shit is this about my RIGHTS, online?
    Oh hell let me read this shit... alright...
    yeah... uh-huh... okayyy... soooo Google's
    search engine was masquerading as a tool of
    censorship the whole time? ... wait... noooo
    that's not it... alright... no it's just a
    measure of legal protection on their behalf.

    WELL WTF... my rights weren't even involved.

    Well at least /. helped me demonstrate my
    online right to freely click-through and
    waste my time on the internet! Thanks!

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  30. They missed some by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
    If you just type dyk, it still autocompletes dykes on bikes

    Also darkr and leather roo still yield the expected completions.

    And fann, ...

  31. quick search in browser by slyrat · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who never goes to the google page for searching and instead always uses the google search through the search bar in the browser? It just seems so much easier and quicker, especially when you know the keyboard commands to jump to that text entry. I guess I'm just in the minority.

  32. goat.se by Smask · · Score: 1

    Why does 2600 hate Göran Persson?

  33. Useless blog by Fizzl · · Score: 1

    And you just have to post a link to the useless blog post instead of the actual list at the more respected source, 2600.

  34. whats the approach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it definitely a search term blacklist, or might they be filtering based on the results?

  35. A list or not? by majorgoodvibes · · Score: 1

    Doesn't it seems more likely that instead of just having a list of verboten words/subjects Google simply searches everything but chooses not to display results when there's adult content? that would explain some of the non-intuitive words like "cuckold."

  36. I feel cheated by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    There's "fuck" and "motherfucker". So really it's only six and a half.

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  37. Googling at work by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    It's quite possible I might want to research "child processes". I'd hate to have stuff show up at the "p".

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  38. Physician heal thyself! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not our fault you can't get laid.

    And you posted this on slashdot?

  39. Idea by BCW2 · · Score: 1

    How about being able to turn off Google Instant?
    Of course there is a button under preferences to do that but it doesn't work. That way Google can still try to force their paid for crap on people. Having a false feature is a fraudulent act. Wonder when they get sued?

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    1. Re:Idea by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I just checked, and when I choose off, it stops working. I am using Chrome on XP.

      You DO know it's about the results, not the auto population of the entry field, right?

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    2. Re:Idea by SmilingBoy · · Score: 1

      How about being able to turn off Google Instant?

      Like being able to disable Instant with a drop-down menu to the right of the search box? Oh, that already exists.

  40. Mods by KiwiCanuck · · Score: 1

    sh!t, p!ss, fukc, cuunt, c0cksuckr, m0therfukcr, t!ts

  41. I too am surprised. by GoodBuddy · · Score: 1

    I am trying to grasp why Google developed this. You are right in saying the reason for blocked terms is that they are trying to prevent complaints when people see sites they disapprove of. But my complaint (from the left) is that if you are going to block some search terms that are offensive, why to you allow others. For instance, if you are going to block the word 'kike' you should block the word 'fag'. [Remember: the symbol of LGBT rights is the '=' sign.]

    I thought this might be a advertising thing. That as the search term changed the ads on the right column changed giving them the opportunity to display more ads. But there are no ads in the right column. So if you click on a result without pressing the enter button you will go to the web site without seeing Google advertising.

  42. Also blanked out: "paris hilton" by NotPeteMcCabe · · Score: 1

    Maybe there's code that examines the results before they are instantly shown, and decides at that point if the results are possibly offensive.

  43. Right on... and should not have been modded troll by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

    I completely agree... I can't fathom why people get so worked up about having to hit the Enter key as a confirmation that you really want to see possibly offensive results.

    Hell, on some sites, they want me to enter my date of birth to make sure I'm over 18 before I see certain content (not that anyone ever puts in their real date, regardless of their age).

  44. Mod Parent Up! by psm321 · · Score: 1

    Exactly. This is the obvious reason to have such a blacklist.

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up! by KnownIssues · · Score: 1

      Aww. Thanks for the support, but I realized right after I posted that this exact analysis was given about five times before me if I had just bothered to read the rest of the posts. That's what I get for not reading all the current posts before I post.

    2. Re:Mod Parent Up! by psm321 · · Score: 1

      But yours is (or at least was) the first one encountered reading top-down (even though it might not be the first chronologically) :)

  45. Google has modified blacklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like they have changed the blacklist. For example, arayan worked.

  46. Non story by quadelirus · · Score: 1

    Who cares? This isn't censorship. They just don't want to get a bunch of complaints from your grandmother when she searches for "penitence" and after hunt-and-pecking "p-e-n-i" gets something that upsets her. You can still search for whatever you want, they just aren't going to automatically guess you mean something dirty because it might offend you greatly if you don't, which would be a PR nightmare. The converse is not true. It doesn't offend anybody (except maybe people who are rabidly-irrational about anything that could possibly be construed as censorship) to get benign results when searching for something dirty as long as they can get to the results by pressing the "Enter" key.

  47. Related clip from 'A Bit of Fry & Laurie' by neutralstone · · Score: 1
  48. Re:do77 by nomel · · Score: 1

    It's 2600...I'm sure it's one of their puzzles.

  49. Re: Try 'Google Sucks' by idontgno · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the lack of neutrality is kind of interesting.

    "Google is not evil" returns an instant page. "Google is good" returns an instant page. "Google is evil"... doesn't. "Google is awesome" is even a suggested auto-completion.

    Of course, the embargo isn't perfect. "Google is tasty" has an instant page, but so does "Google is nasty".

    "Google is now evil" still returns an instant. This, in contrast with the blank page for "Google is evil", when the former has ~ 41,000,000 hits, and the later has ~ 80,800,000 hits. That's a good counter-argument someone might make that it's based on the size of the returned space. There seems to be some of that: "Google is peristeronic" also doesn't have an instant return, and that search has 185 hits.

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  50. No n-word??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised that the n-word isn't on that list. I guess it's still OK to say it.

  51. BMAPARTS.com by BMAPARTS · · Score: 0

    Some people fear this will end SEO. However I find it more useful for our site. So far so good with no issues. So I can't really complain :).

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  52. 2600 is still around? by bughunter · · Score: 1

    Wow. I thought they went the way of the dial-up.

    (Also, I knew what most of the terms on that list meant. But I never should have googled "1 guy 1 jar." I'll have nightmares for a week, now.)

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  53. Oh, puh by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

    They probably just did that to keep the servers from getting overloaded, like restricting the word "the".

    Oh, wait, it doesn't ignore "the"...

    Really though, it's probably for the better so you don't get a bunch of porn results when you pause on halfway typing "assume" or when looking for the different kind of cream pies you can make.

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  54. but my corporate IT overlords said: by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    Click on the link, and the proxy server helpfully says:

    ATTENTION
    [blah blah how awful and scary the Intarwebs are!!!!!]
    Access to the requested website has failed.
    Category: Hacking;Information Technology

    Guess I'll never know the full badword list.

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  55. Ah, the censorship of America - alive and well by Snaller · · Score: 1

    And the brainwashing is going fine as well - witness the comments saying "profane" words aren't free speech or protected.
    Ah, to live in a free country where we can still say "FUCK" in primetime.

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  56. Banging on about free speech by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

    It gets tiresome, USA citizen banging on about their freedom of speech. In reality the USA haven't got nearly as much practical free speech as the rest of the world. Try disagreeing with the powers that be and you will be sued into oblivion and beyond. Try criticising influential politicians and you will be practically silenced. You go on TV and the main thing crossing your mind is the avoidance of swear words.

    To be perfectly clear, I think using swear words is mostly an expression of bad taste and/or education. But there are moments where strong language makes a point by depicting the genuine emotion of the speaker. This list of 7 words is pathetic. Even considering it outside the realm for which it was intended for is absolutely ridiculous.

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  57. correction by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    My third sentence above should read, "...his essays and Christian apologia..."

    In the second 'graph, the second sentence should end, "...questions about his faith that he did not want answered."

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