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1928 Time Traveler Caught On Film?

Many of you have submitted a story about Irish filmmaker George Clarke, who claims to have found a person using a cellphone in the "unused footage" section of the DVD The Circus, a Charlie Chaplin movie filmed in 1928. To me the bigger mystery is how someone who appears to be the offspring of Ram-Man and The Penguin got into a movie in the first place, especially if they were talking to a little metal box on set. Watch the video and decide for yourself.

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  1. OK, I'll bite. by ThoughtMonster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who was she talking to? (considering the lack of cell-phone towers)

    Ugh.

    1. Re:OK, I'll bite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe it's a satellite-phone...

    2. Re:OK, I'll bite. by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Imagine the roaming charges on that call...

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    3. Re:OK, I'll bite. by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Who was she talking to? (considering the lack of cell-phone towers)

      Ugh.

      It is entirely possible that the time travelling 'ship' could serve as a tower for this purpose. It could be relaying communications to her home time or to a fellow traveler.

    4. Re:OK, I'll bite. by mea37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe it's not a cell phone as we know it. Maybe it allows communication through time. Maybe it isn't about time travel at all, but was an alien communicating with the mother ship.

      Or maybe the story is bs, and either the video was manipulated, you're not seeing what you think you see, or the guy was immitating "talking on a phone" with a small, boxy object that happened to be in reach (either for reasons you'd have to be in his converation to know, or because he's nuts). For that matter, maybe he was holding something cold to a bruise on the side of his head while takling to the person next to him.

      Even for Idle this is silly.

    5. Re:OK, I'll bite. by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe we shouldn't pretend the need to hold a brick to your head either, especially in a society that would tend to notice that anomaly.

    6. Re:OK, I'll bite. by Third+Position · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There seem to be a lot of these cropping up lately. The other day I came across this picture.

      Something tells me this is going to be a new fad, like listening to records backwards to hear hidden messages. "Can You Find the Time Traveler in This Picture?".

      Hell, maybe it'll even become a game show.

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    7. Re:OK, I'll bite. by modecx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I've always thought that a people capable of time travel would also develop what I see as final evolution of the cell phone: C.A.C.T.U.S. (Colonic Audio Conduction Technology, Ultimately Sadomasochistic), an inter-chronologic audio communication device, in convenient suppository form. It vibrates your colon such a manner that sound waves travel up your spine, resonating the inner ear. It is, unfortunately, quite uncomfortable to wear.

      We all know from the Terminator movies that inorganic materials aren't compatible with the time-matrix anomaly--unless they're wrapped in flesh. So, there you go. Billions of future humans are destined to ram CACTUSs up their asses.

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    8. Re:OK, I'll bite. by ChairmanMeow · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can you hear me now?

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    9. Re:OK, I'll bite. by d3ac0n · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is something in her hand. And the object in her hand is...

      An early model Siemens hearing aid. While they gave a great boost in hearing quality, they tended to have feedback whine issues. You may notice that the person's mouth doesn't move until right at the end. Likely she is reacting to a feedback, possibly caused by someone yelling at her to "GET OUT OF THE SHOT YOU OLD BAG!"

      So despite all the hullaballo, it's just an ugly old lady with a hearing aid. Yeah, they had them then too.

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    10. Re:OK, I'll bite. by kungfugleek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Given that it's a time traveler, I'd say, "Can you hear me then?

    11. Re:OK, I'll bite. by Trails · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, it's obvious, it's been fixed with a sonic screwdriver. Universal roaming, you know.

      But I must say the Doctor has really let his standards for Companions slide...

    12. Re:OK, I'll bite. by VanGarrett · · Score: 3, Funny

      This person has a goddamned time machine, and you automatically assume that her cellphone also requires a tower to get a signal?

    13. Re:OK, I'll bite. by AndGodSed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My wifes grandma, who is in her late eighties, has a hearing aid. She will sometimes talk to herself to "hear" if she has it adjusted properly.

      So there is the reason that the auntie was talking to herself - probably fiddling with her hearing aid to set it properly.

      I am with you on that.

      Now if anyone could explain how she managed to fade into thin air like that as soon as she noticed the camera...

    14. Re:OK, I'll bite. by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Interesting

          What I'd be curious about is to do the math and figure out if it would be cost effective, accounting for inflation.

          According to the National Mining Association, in 1928, 1 troy ounce was $20.66. In 2008, it was $871.96. Today it was trading at $1343.32. Would it be financially wise to buy gold at $1343? Adjusting for inflation, what can be purchased now for $1343 would cost approximately $108.22 in 1928. Since the loss would be a net gain over time (82 years, as we're presuming), it wouldn't matter much.

          But there is the power aspect of it. What if you had a controlling interest in major industry (manufacturing of all sorts, including automotive), technology, and had a controlling or strong interest in every company, which in turn would give you a strong negotiation position with political figures world wide. Political leaders simply won't say no to someone who can honestly say "I have controlling interest in 90% of the business and industry in your [city/state/region/country]. Do what I say, or I will depopulate your entire country and bankrupt you. You will be the king of your kitchen staff, because there won't be anyone left." Greed and corruption falls out of the picture, when corporations aren't fighting against each other, and everyone has open access to everything they need or want. Sorry for the socialist ring to that, it's totally unintentional.

          Imagine every war starting at WWII never happened. No nukes. No cold war. No traumatized (physically and mentally) war veterans. No starving people. No overworked, underpaid slaves in sweat shops.

          That's something the world needs. Rather than letting politicians fight over things, and start wars, things could be settled in a good business manner. Keep the people happy. Happy workers are productive workers. And we could avoid so many things that are obviously not right. The massive pollution that we've spewed from the beginning of the industrial age is senseless, but could be fixed. The same recursive loop that would set the position of power could also bring back technologies from 2010 to 1928, in turn having better technologies to bring back on the next trip.

          Dammit, and I can't find the keys to my time machine. Anyone know how to hot wire a DeLorean?

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    15. Re:OK, I'll bite. by shugah · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not, she's got 3000 "anytime" minutes.

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    16. Re:OK, I'll bite. by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, it wasn't. She's a time traveler, and she's talking into a communicator (to her fellow time-travelers, possibly in orbit) that is disguised as an early model Siemens hearing aid. The time traveler is dressed as an ugly old lady to avoid arousing suspicion.

    17. Re:OK, I'll bite. by beav007 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is most likely a Western Electric Model 34A "Audiphone" Carbon Hearing Aid, which was commercially available from 1925. The lady in question was probably talking into it to adjust the volume, or see if it was still working.

      Hooray for the publicity grab!

  2. Verizon's Network Was So Terrible in 1928 by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And uh, what network was this cell phone connecting to? Because you know there's a series of cell towers and satellites that need to be in place for cell phones to work and I don't recall anyone having the foresight to erect such towers in 1928.

    This is such utter drivel. The person in the picture could be scratching his/her head or shielding their ear from a breeze with something (my grandmother does similar things when the wind is strong and she wears a shawl). I don't see a black object, I see two of the fingers around what would be the 'top' of the phone which is uncharacteristically how people hold cell phones. I don't see any shock or expression on the face as they turn it just seems like Clarke is projecting what he wants on the viewer. It could just be a schizophrenic wandering around who is used to shielding their face and mouth when they can't control what they are saying.

    It's ridiculous that time traveling is even suggested, let alone continually reinforced by George Clarke.

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    1. Re:Verizon's Network Was So Terrible in 1928 by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow. They really should create a separate section of Slashdot for these ridiculous stories.

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    2. Re:Verizon's Network Was So Terrible in 1928 by ColdCuts · · Score: 3, Funny

      Worse would be the cell phone company's charges. The minutes would certianly be billed under a time 'roaming' plan. But worse, they would be instantly overdue, and with interest and late fees accumulating, a 300 year trip to the past with a quick call to brag about your journey would bankrupt the poor traveler.

    3. Re:Verizon's Network Was So Terrible in 1928 by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If they did that, only idiots would read it!

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    4. Re:Verizon's Network Was So Terrible in 1928 by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem with this and most claims of the paranormal is that people just don't understand how common coincidences are. The woman in that film is just holding her hand coincidentally like the modern cellphone.

      What's funny is that this was never noticed before because cell phones never looked like that until fairly recently. If it was 1983 then that wouldn't look like a phone at all, it would look like a woman holding her scarf funny because cell phones were twice to three times the size with big honking antennas. Or if it was 2030 it wouldn't look like a phone at all, we'd probably just have them implanted into our bodies.

      This is an old sci-fi trope which I like to call the "unsophisticated sophisticate." A time traveler would of course know not to use a piece of technology like that in public or even possess it, but audiences like the idea of "Aha! I caught the time traveler because I'm smart and the traveler is dumb or careless!" We see this also when aliens step out of their spaceships and die from the common cold or future archeologists can't fathom what a 'car' is or when aliens land and don't know what love is, etc. In other words, conspiracy theories not only exploit of ignorance but more so our vanity. It makes us feel good to "know whats really going on" or feel superior to threatening things. Unfortunately, humans seem drawn to feel good bullshit and sometimes go to war about said bullshit.

  3. Huh by Markvs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder what network the were using in 1928? Marconi Wireless? (snicker)
    Seriously, this has been in the media for days now. It's almost certainly someone using an old-style hearing aid.

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  4. Looks like a hearing aid. by Shadmere · · Score: 3, Informative

    Obviously it's not clear what kind of aid it is, specifically, but it looks like an old ear trumpet.

    Like this thing.

  5. Not a cell phone. by davev2.0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is an early carbonic (electric) hearing aid.

  6. OCCAM'S RAZOR, MAN by gaspar+ilom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nuh-uh: "Time traveler w/ cell phone" is the simplest explanation.

  7. It was a hearing aid by Valiss · · Score: 5, Informative

    This was released in 1924:

    http://hearing.siemens.com/sg/10-about-us/01-our-history/milestones.jsp?year=1924

    Seems like it could easily be that.

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  8. tachyon communication device by danlip · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clear not an actual cell phone, but a tachyon communication device that allowed her to communicate with her native time frame. Duh.

  9. Schizophrenia? by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They had to have Schizophrenics back in the 20s, didn't they? Maybe she was just talking to herself and cupping her hands over her ears in an attempt to block out the voices?

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  10. Re:Western Electric Hearing Aid ca. 1925 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We just slashdotted the hearing aid museum...

  11. I saw that episode by praedictus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't worry!!! She will get hit by a car and Kirk cant save her or else the Nazis will take over.

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  12. like cave men trying to explain a TV by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "cell phone" theory is a golden example of people projecting their own limited conception of the world onto something they don't recognize. Someone 40 years ago probably would've imagined that they saw someone singing along to a transistor radio. Someone from 120 years ago would've thought they saw someone listening to a seashell and chewing gum. If she's really holding something (IMO the video isn't clear enough to be sure), it's almost certainly a contemporary hearing aid.

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    1. Re:like cave men trying to explain a TV by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Interesting

      See this picture of a fellow time traveler for another example. Modern people see a guy with a printed T-Shirt, modern sunglasses, and an SLR camera. However, the printed T could just as easily be a sweater with a college logo on it, the 'modern' sunglasses were in fact available in 1940, and the SLR camera is almost definitely a Kodak model that would have been old even at the time the picture was taken.

  13. Not impressed at all. by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Funny

    Completely unimpressive. can't tell if it's a phone or not.

    Although, the blue police call box that the person walked in to was interesting. Seemed bigger on the inside than on the outside....

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  14. you see what you are accustomed to see by Tom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously, that would mean that time travel is so close that cell phones won't change considerably. The chance of that is even smaller than that for time travel per se.

    We are pattern-matching machines. We see and interpret in practically the same thought. We are used to people using cell phones like that, so that is what we think we see.

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  15. Genius Marketing... by gauauu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is genius. I've never heard of this guy, George Clarke, but now by mentioning his work at the beginning of the video, he's got a great viral marketing campaign!

    Of course he doesn't believe a word of it, but he managed to get word to spread of his silly little video, and thus free advertising for his work. Pure genius!

  16. Why Not? by jesseck · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why can't this be a cell phone? Of course, now that this has been discovered, someone from the future will travel back in time to stop this from happening...

    It reminds me of an occurrence one night while I was working as a hospital security officer on nights. A man came in breathless to our office, and asked to speak to Sergeant D* (I don't recall the full last name). We told him he didn't work with us. The man said that the Sergeant was supposed to be there, he was running from the CIA, and had to speak to him. We responded that Sergeant didn't exist. The man then bolted and ran away from us. It kind of shook my world, and I can't stop thinking... did I just ensure the destruction of mankind, by running this guy off?

  17. Simple explanation by LateArthurDent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who was she talking to? (considering the lack of cell-phone towers)

    Ugh.

    Not that I believe in this, but if you were time-traveling to the past to be an extra in a Charlie Chaplin movie (which is a plausible thing for any film buff), it's perfectly reasonable that such a person would whip out their cell phones just to be filmed pretending to talk on it. They could then point it out to their friends once they return to their time.

    1. Re:Simple explanation by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 4, Informative

      FWIW, according to the video, this isn't actually the movie.
      This is a historical piece of the time showing people going into the Hollywood premiere of the film.

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  18. Re:Prime Directive! by psyclone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not only that, but his disguise was a woman!

  19. iphone 4G!!! by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nope. It's clearly an iphone 4G. See how s/he is holding it!!

  20. iPhone 4 by Kaldesh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, we can clearly see that it's not an iPhone 4, else holding it with her left hand would kill the signal.

  21. My Plan to confuse future people... by jameskojiro · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Go to Vancouver or LA.
    2. Find a scene that is being shot in some random TV show.
    3. Walk by the scene pretending to use some futuristic device.
    4. Repeat this several times with different looking "devices", ie polished pieces of dark coloured plexiglass.
    5. Wait 80 years...
    6. Laugh my head in a jar off when I get the Slashdot brain download that proof of time travelers exist in old footage of CSI: New York.

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  22. Re:Western Electric Hearing Aid ca. 1925 by amliebsch · · Score: 5, Funny

    4) She's talking to a hologram of a man from her own time that only she can see and hear, as she puts right what once went wrong.

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  23. Where's the ORIGINAL footage? by MadCow42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The DVD conversion certainly is a lossy process... if they could get the original film to look at frame-by-frame, you could certainly see a ton more detail, which might let you clarify if she's holding anything at all.

    Contact the studio. It'd be great promo for them!

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  24. Buy my movies by Sean_Inconsequential · · Score: 3, Informative

    All I got from that video was "I hope this video goes viral so I can use it to advertise my movies."