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Researchers Race To Recover Radioactive Rabbits

Ponca City writes "The Tri-City Herald reports that radioactive rabbit droppings were recently found near the old Hanford Nuclear Site in southeast Washington that produced nuclear materials for 40 years and is now being decontaminated. The Department of Health looks for contamination off-site to make sure there is no public hazard and a rabbit trapped at the 300 Area caught their attention because it was close enough to the site's boundaries to potentially come in contact with the public. Joe Franco, an assistant manager for the Department of Energy, said workers erected fences, removed potential food sources and even sprayed the scent of a predator around the perimeter to prevent any other rabbit contamination and the Department of Energy said only one of 18 rabbits surveyed were deemed contaminated. Researchers narrowed the area of possible contamination to the 327 Building used during the Cold War for testing highly radioactive materials, particularly fuel elements and cladding that were irradiated at Hanford reactors as part of plutonium production for the nation's nuclear weapons program. Because the number of contaminated droppings being discovered on-site has decreased, officials now believe it's possible that just one rabbit might have been contaminated and they now are finding old droppings from it."

145 comments

  1. I for one by cstacy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one, welcome our glowing Leporidae overlords.

    1. Re:I for one by couchslug · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I for one, welcome our glowing Leporidae overlords."

      They will be a tough act to follow. How do I get luminous paint to stick to a fursuit?

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    2. Re:I for one by uncleFester · · Score: 1

      ".. noo, 'TIS the rabbit!"

      -r

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    3. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can't be any worse than the mutant razorbacks of Dawsonville Georgia. Not too many people know about that one, since they try to keep it hush-hush. The containment at that site is broken down quite badly and the only thing keeping it in check is the local water table.

    4. Re:I for one by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      These kinds of things defeat the "nuclear option" apologists. Their arguments are all based in the premise that waste will be correctly transported and stored. I don't think so. And the consequences of a spill, even of a tiny amount, are far more dangerous than any other material we use for energy production.

  2. Rabid Radioactive Rabbits with Herpes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Run for the hills!

    1. Re:Rabid Radioactive Rabbits with Herpes! by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Why would a rabbit need Hair Piece?

  3. A new superhero? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 0

    Rabbitman, Rabbitman! Does whatever a rabbit can!...

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    1. Re:A new superhero? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean Rabbitpig.

    2. Re:A new superhero? by JDeane · · Score: 1

      I really am concerned about what powers rabbit man may have.... The only two I can think of are the ability to hop and [censored]....

    3. Re:A new superhero? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      What's with all the carrots?
      What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?

  4. Be vewy quiet by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm hunting wabbits!

    Look, wabbit twacks ...

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    1. Re:Be vewy quiet by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      ... dey gwow in de dark! Hehehehehe!

    2. Re:Be vewy quiet by Krau+Ming · · Score: 2, Funny

      click.....click click...click click click click click.....gotcha!

  5. number of droppings decreasing by He+who+knows · · Score: 5, Funny

    This can mean only one thing. The rabbits are now super inteligent and hiding their droppings.

    1. Re:number of droppings decreasing by AnonymousClown · · Score: 1

      The radioactivity has given them super powers with laser beam eyes - they're using they're laser beams to disintegrate their turds.

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  6. fucking like bunnies by line-bundle · · Score: 0

    Suppose they were fucking like bunnies and their growth follows the fibonacci sequence. Then what? Radioactive bunnies bunnies taking over the world?

    1. Re:fucking like bunnies by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Suppose they were fucking like bunnies and their growth follows the fibonacci sequence. Then what? Radioactive bunnies bunnies taking over the world?

      Well, there has been something similar.

  7. Just remember... by howlingfrog · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slow and steady wins the race.

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    1. Re:Just remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Do I take the easy way out and go with "Duck! Wabbit! Duck!" Well, I could, but...

      Slow and steady wins the race.

      ...so "Duck and Cover!" it is :)

    2. Re:Just remember... by AnotherAnonymousUser · · Score: 2, Funny

      So it's not the rabbits we need fear, but radioactive turtles?

    3. Re:Just remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...so "Duck and Cover!" it is :)

      So it's not the rabbits we need fear, but radioactive turtles?

      Naw. Back in the 50s and 60s, that turtle was on our side. From the 80s to the 10s, those other Turtles were still on our side.

      (The 70s? Hmm. Y'know, let's just skip the decade that taste forgot!)

  8. Easy... by PmanAce · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just look for the 3 eyed green ones.

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  9. Researchers Race To Recover Radioactive Rabbits by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Say it 5 times quickly. Go on, I dare you!

    1. Re:Researchers Race To Recover Radioactive Rabbits by rewarp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Using "Wesearchers Wace to Wecover Wadoactive Wabbits" makes it easier.

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    2. Re:Researchers Race To Recover Radioactive Rabbits by AnonymousClown · · Score: 1

      Using "Wesearchers Wace to Wecover Wadoactive Wabbits" makes it easier.

      Siwwy Wabbit.

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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    3. Re:Researchers Race To Recover Radioactive Rabbits by Abies+Bracteata · · Score: 1

      Wesearchers Wace to Wecover Wadioactive Rabbits

      (Centuwion, why do they titter so?)

    4. Re:Researchers Race To Recover Radioactive Rabbits by CaptainPatent · · Score: 1

      When I say it 5 times quickly, I begin think I'm on Fark! O_o

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  10. Science by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 4, Informative

    Despite the common belief and what bad scifi would tell you, rabbits (and other things) don't become radioactive when exposed to radiation.

    In this case, the rabbit likely consumed radioactive materials, meaning that it is contaminated with radioactive materials. The rabbit itself though, is not radioactive.

    The radioactivity is not contagious and the fear is not that someone will pet the radioactive rabbit and become radioactive themself. The problem would be if a hunter caught the rabbit and ate it. Then he/she would ingest both the rabbit and the radioactive materials, putting him/her at higher risk for certain diseases (most notably cancer). However, he/she would not be radioactive either.

    1. Re:Science by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just to elaborate, if this rabbit mates, it's children will not be radioactive nor will they receive radioactive materials. The problem is only with this generation.

    2. Re:Science by Eevee · · Score: 1

      Unless the rabbit passes on the desire to nibble on radioactive waste material. We'll end up with roving bands of rabbits invading nuclear power plants across the world just to have a quick snack.

    3. Re:Science by RsG · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The problem would be if a hunter caught the rabbit and ate it. Then he/she would ingest both the rabbit and the radioactive materials, putting him/her at higher risk for certain diseases (most notably cancer). However, he/she would not be radioactive either.

      I agree with your post, but wanted to add something.

      Aside from the scenario you set up in the passage I quoted, there are a couple of other ways a contaminated rabbit could cause problems. To wit, the animal could die to some cause other than a human hunter and spread the contamination through other parts of the food chain, via scavengers and decomposition . Or the rabbit could get adopted or otherwise come into contact with human beings and cause health problems via contaminated droppings. Or, if the animal remained wild, its contaminated droppings could find their way into agricultural soil (this last one is a long shot).

      The good news is, the total quantity of radioactive material is finite, and will become more diluted over time. And rabbits are not especially radiation resistant, meaning if the quantity of contaminants per rabbit is probably fairly low already (or else they'd have died at or near the site they were contaminated at).

      Plus, any really nasty isotopes they've absorbed will also have a shorter half-life. So this isn't a long term problem, provided that whatever circumstances resulted in the rabbits getting contaminated in the first place have been rectified.

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    4. Re:Science by HangingChad · · Score: 1

      Then he/she would ingest both the rabbit and the radioactive materials, putting him/her at higher risk for certain diseases (most notably cancer). However, he/she would not be radioactive either.

      That really depends on the contaminant and the dose. Radioactive poop indicates the rabbit was ingesting something contaminated, but without knowing what it is and the dose it's almost impossible to conclude someone eating the rabbit would be exposing themselves to any health risk at all.

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    5. Re:Science by DingerX · · Score: 1

      Huh? A rabbit is nothing more than it component material and perhaps an organizing principle. If that material is radioactive, the rabbit is radioactive. Taking 'radioactive' to mean "significantly above background levels", then that's one hot bunny.

      By the way, did Oak Ridge ever solve their hot toad problem?

    6. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Deer/elk hunting is a more popular sport in the eastern Washington area (including the TriCities; I'm a former resident) than rabbit hunting. I'd be more worried about somebody eating a mule deer that had been eating contaminated material.

      The TriCities have been living with the Hanford site now for over fifty years. You can't walk down the street there without tripping over three engineers along the way. I don't know anyplace else I've lived where they routinely check the rabbit sh*t, so I'd have to say they were on top of the problem.

    7. Re:Science by AnonymousClown · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Just to elaborate, if this rabbit mates, it's children will not be radioactive nor will they receive radioactive materials. The problem is only with this generation.

      So, we're no t going to have rabbit super heroes with super powers that will fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way?!?

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    8. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In this case, the rabbit likely consumed radioactive materials, meaning that it is contaminated with radioactive materials. The rabbit itself though, is not radioactive.

      Then please elaborate how something can become contaminated with radioactive compounds without becoming radioactive? Do the radioactive compounds somehow stop being radioactive? And how so?

      The problem would be if a hunter caught the rabbit and ate it. Then he/she would ingest both the rabbit and the radioactive materials

      ... and thus incorporate the radioactive compounds, and thus become radioactive.

      The rest of your comment is mostly valid, though. The problem is ingestion or absorption of the radioactive compounds, not just being exposed to a glowing rabbit.

    9. Re:Science by Charliemopps · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unless of course, the rabbit used the materials to build it's nest, and it's children do the same. The problem here is that they've left these materials, that are easily identifiable, laying around for the wildlife to consume.

    10. Re:Science by johan_from_cape_town · · Score: 1

      The big question is - were the rabbits exposed to radiation directly or were they bitten by radio active spiders? Spiderbunnies would probably spawn spiderbunnies... and much faster than regular bunnies!

    11. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are such a goddamn spoilsport.

    12. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      We could use them to counter nuclear proliferation.

    13. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless they bite some human... I mean... haven't you seen "The course of the were-rabbit"

    14. Re:Science by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 1

      In this case, the rabbit likely consumed radioactive materials, meaning that it is contaminated with radioactive materials. The rabbit itself though, is not radioactive.

      That seems overly pedantic. By that definition, you could also say that the fuel elements and cladding are not radioactive either...they're just contaminated with radioactive materials.

      The rabbit is likely emitting beta and gamma radiation (at least more than a usual rabbit does). Therefore, by definition, it's radioactive.

    15. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unless it causes a genetic mutation which causes the rabbit children to turn green, grow to enormous size and strength, and eat nuclear power plants.

    16. Re:Science by Sulphur · · Score: 2, Funny

      We could use them to counter nuclear proliferation.

      iWanian Wabbits FTW

    17. Re:Science by careysub · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So this isn't a long term problem, provided that whatever circumstances resulted in the rabbits getting contaminated in the first place have been rectified.

      The rabbits are contaminated with Cs-137 and Sr-90, both of which have ~30 year half-life. So their droppings are going to remain "hot" for a long, long time. Long-lived contamination being move off of the reservation is definitely a long term problem, as long is it exceed safety limits.

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    18. Re:Science by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      Am not!

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    19. Re:Science by mark_osmd · · Score: 1

      >rabbits (and other things) don't become radioactive when exposed to radiation That's not 100% true, neutron radiation will make inert material radioactive. Inert containment vessels become radioactive after the neutron radiation for a few months and years modifies the steel in the vessel. That occurs without any transport of actual radioactive material into the steel.

    20. Re:Science by fizzup · · Score: 1

      Despite the common belief and what bad scifi would tell you, rabbits (and other things) don't become radioactive when exposed to radiation.

      In this case, the rabbit likely consumed radioactive materials, meaning that it is contaminated with radioactive materials. The rabbit itself, though, is not radioactive.

      This is true, but it's only a kind of half truth. If the rabbit has consumed some strontium-90 then the skeleton of the rabbit will incorporate some of it. Strontium and calcium are both in family 2 on the periodic table and only one period apart, which means that they are chemically similar. Sr-90 is a pretty common component of waste from old uranium and plutonium fission because it's about half the size of U-235 and Pu-239 and it has a relatively long half life (~30 years). According to wikipedia around one-quarter of the ingested Sr-90 could be retained by the rabbit! This is definitely something they will want to contain to prevent spreading of a biochemically dangerous isotope.

      Sr-90 is one of the most dangerous beta emitters because after incorporating the Sr-90 in your bones, you are guaranteed to absorb the beta emission. As long as you're still alive, I guess. It depends on your definition of "you".

      The radioactivity is not contagious and the fear is not that someone will pet the radioactive rabbit and become radioactive themself. The problem would be if a hunter caught the rabbit and ate it. Then he/she would ingest both the rabbit and the radioactive materials, putting him/her at higher risk for certain diseases (most notably cancer). However, he/she would not be radioactive either.

      This really only touches on a part of the problem. A rabbit can go a long way in a short period of time, pooping all the way before finally expiring. It's not as bad as Sr-90 getting into a waterway, but it's pretty bad.

    21. Re:Science by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      Don't listen to this joker, people. The rabbit itself MUST be radioactive...why else would it be glowing green in that highly reliable picture up top that isn't at all reminiscent of the Weekly World News?

    22. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh -- do you know how radiation works: If the rabbit(s) consumed a gamma emitter, they'd well be "radioactive" by the colloquial definition that you would receive a radiation dose based on proximity:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_emitter

    23. Re:Science by Iskender · · Score: 1

      I'd mod you up if I could. GP should be a better pedant if he wants to be one at all. :)

    24. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, if you eat a radioactive rabbit you become radioactive with a halving period depending on the number of radioactive rabbits you consumed (e.g.: the more rabbits you eat the shorter the halving period)

    25. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So this isn't a long term problem, provided that whatever circumstances resulted in the rabbits getting contaminated in the first place have been rectified.

      The rabbits are contaminated with Cs-137 and Sr-90, both of which have ~30 year half-life. So their droppings are going to remain "hot" for a long, long time. Long-lived contamination being move off of the reservation is definitely a long term problem, as long is it exceed safety limits.

      Ok, School time.

      Let's start by just talking about the Cesium to make it a little simpler.

      Cs-137 primarily emits beta radiation as a byproduct of decay, which is not entirely 'safe' but it isn't the horrible stuff most people think when they hear 'radiation'. High levels of exposure will cause burns to the skin, and probably skin cancer down the road... but people deal with this all the time they just call it "sun burn". And you need a pretty fucking huge pile of Cs-137 to get the same burn that an hour in the sun with no lotion would get you. In other words, if it was just the beta radiation from the Cs-137 to worry about, we could use it for fertilizer and food packaging, and you could take that "radioactive" rabbit and cuddle with it every day and not worry about it.

      The problem with Cs-137 is that it decays into an isotope of Barium which has a half-life of about 2 and 1/2 minutes, and emits gamma radiation which is the really nasty stuff that penetrates and causes cancer and all kinds of horrible stuff. So most of the dangerous radioactivity from a Cesium contamination is actually due to the resulting Barium isotope and not the Cesium itself... which means the Cs-137 would actually be safer if it had a longer half-life, because that would mean a much slower rate of Barium production and thus much lower levels of gamma radiation.

      The REAL danger, however, is not that of radiation, but that of Toxic materials contamination. The amount of Cs-137 that would kill you if ingested would take more than an average human's lifetime to deliver a dangerous, much less lethal, dose of radiation. So the worry is not that the rabbits are "radioactive" but that they are chalk full of toxic materials, which become more concentrated as you move up the food chain. Primarily the worry is that the animals get contaminated with the material (not the radiation), and then spread it around over time, either directly (by migration) or indirectly (by a predator, etc.) and eventually into the human food chain, water supplies, etc.

      In any event, despite popular perception radiation doesn't actually 'spread', at least not how people think about it. For example, if you were to take the lid off the top of a nuke plant, but still be able to contain all the actual material other than the radiation itself, that radiation would travel almost directly upwards and out into space, at nearly the speed of light. It would not ooze out the top and run down the sides and into the water supply, or be blown around in the wind- these are high-energy particles we're talking about, they don't self-replicate.

      But people like to just say 'radiation' because it's scary and gets people's attention more than 'toxic'. If you tell people "ooops, we just dumped a batch of toxic material in the river" they get pissed off and stop drinking the water. If you say "we just dumped a batch of radiation in the river" people will literally kill each other as they panic and stampede out of town. So if there's an environmental mess or policy that you think needs attention, find a way to say 'radiation' a couple times and people will flock to your cause.

    26. Re:Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is a difference between being "radio active" and being "irradiated." The former only happens to certain ions that throw little particles, and the later being what happens when material is hit by those particles. radiation poisoning can mutate DNA sequences, so the possible of a fuzzy overloard with two (or more, depending on mutation) may still be acheived!

  11. Time to break out by zounds011 · · Score: 5, Funny

    the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch!

  12. This just makes me hopping mad! by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1, Funny

    But I'm not jumping to any wild conclusions. Probably just a wild hare.

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  13. Errr, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bunny from Donnie Darko...?

    (Captcha: "confuse"... I mention Donnie Darko, then this happens??)

  14. Nuclear Paranoia by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cesium is more dangerous as a toxic heavy metal than as a radioactive source and the level of Cessium was insufficient to kill the rabbit via toxicity, because it's still only as toxic as common salt. When Cesium decays it emits Beta radiation which doesn't penetrate heavy clothing and barely penetrates the skin. The level of Radioactivity was insufficient to kill the rabbit but they still go to all that trouble to track it down. All the hallmarks of Nuclear Paranoia.

    1. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by headhot · · Score: 2, Informative

      While beta radiation out side the skin is not that bad, a beta or even alpha source inside the body is very very bad. This is how Alexander Litvinenko was killed. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonium

    2. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      In addition, radioactive materials are less dangerous to animals for a simple reason- the don't live as long as us so they are less likely to develop and die from cancer caused by radioactivity. Also, they are usually able to breed within a couple of years, so they can still reproduce even if they are severely irradiated and do eventually die of cancer. Humans take ~20 years to reach normal childbearing age, plenty of time to die from cancer.

      However, its also about length of exposure. If you handled an extremely radioactive rabbit dropping, your chance of developing cancer might increase 2% over your lifetime, probably similar to getting a few dental x-rays. But if you lived next to Chernobyl, your chances would obviously be much higher.

    3. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by cesium132 · · Score: 1

      Stop slandering my good name!

    4. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by Lanteran · · Score: 1

      actually if I recall correctly, beta radiation is fairly dangerous and penetrates the skin quite well; its alpha that can't do much of anything outside the body.

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    5. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by leucadiadude · · Score: 1

      You recall incorrectly. Only very high energy beta particles can penetrate the skin.

    6. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by izomiac · · Score: 1

      While I'm sure hypothetical danger exists, IMHO this needs to be put into perspective. A rabbit is carrying around a bit of radioactive material, though not enough to cause it too many problems obviously. Its droppings contain a tiny fraction of that, yet our equipment is sensitive enough to detect it, and our standards classify it as dangerous. Remember that humans are slightly larger than rabbits, so a rabbit is going to suffer a lot more than we would from the same amount of radioactive material.

      Given nuclear paranoia and airport security, you have to seriously wonder why flu shots aren't mandatory and cigarettes aren't banned. (Really, there are excellent civil liberty arguments for the latter two, but they apparently don't apply for the former two...) IIRC the cut-off for "too expensive" for recommended vaccines and such is around $30,000 per life saved. How much is being spent on this rabbit I wonder?

    7. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by careysub · · Score: 1

      ... Remember that humans are slightly larger than rabbits, so a rabbit is going to suffer a lot more than we would from the same amount of radioactive material....

      On the other hand they only live a few years in the wild - so the long-term effects of exposure aren't going to show up. And when dealing with people, a 0.1% chance of cancer due to exposure is considered an enormous hazard, while you would need perhaps 25,000 rabbits to have a large enough population (considering longevity) to show one additional case at that same exposure level.

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    8. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by izomiac · · Score: 1

      Smaller animals also tend to have higher cell division rates, so they still show signs of cancer sooner. A lab mouse that dies of "old age" might be full of tumors at age four, whereas tumors in four year old humans are quite rare. But you are right in that cutting this rabbit's lifespan in half might not be readily apparent at this point.

      Also, a .1% increased risk of cancer in the three people who run into this particular rabbit still only has a .3% chance of having any effect at all. Significant, but it's probably cheaper to just treat the cancer if it happens. A lawsuit might be expensive, but as the tobacco companies proved, it's extremely hard to show that any particular person's cancer was caused by the exposure and wasn't just random.

    9. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [citation needed]

    10. Re:Nuclear Paranoia by Lanteran · · Score: 1

      well the context I was reading in (nuclear explosives) was dealing extremely high energies. I just kinda guessed it was universal.

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  15. Well, that's no ordinary rabbit... by dclozier · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!

    1. Re:Well, that's no ordinary rabbit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lagomorphs aren't rodents

    2. Re:Well, that's no ordinary rabbit... by arielCo · · Score: 1

      Gee, thanks Max.

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    3. Re:Well, that's no ordinary rabbit... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!

      Do not look directly at his eyes.

  16. Recommended Reading ... by cheetah_spottycat · · Score: 3, Informative

    "The Plague Dogs" is the third novel by Richard Adams, author of Watership Down, about two dogs who escape an animal testing facility and are subsequently pursued by both the government and the media.

    There is also an 1982 animated film based on the 1977 novel of the same name by Richard Adams. The film was written-for-screen, directed and produced by Martin Rosen, who also directed Watership Down

    Rowf (a Labrador-mix) and Snitter (a smooth fox terrier) are two of many dogs used for experimental purposes at an animal research facility in the Lake District of north-western England. They manage to escape, but initially relieved and eager to experience their new freedom, the dogs are soon faced not only with the realities of life in the wild but with another more terrifying realization--they are being hunted by their former captors. As they wander about aimlessly, the army and the media are roped into the pursuit, driven by rumors of the pair carrying bubonic plague and murdering sheep and even humans.

    1. Re:Recommended Reading ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, when dogs are thinking and reasoning like that, they probably were part of some genetic experiment to increase brain capacity and intelligence. You see most dogs follow fairly simple sensory input / response programs like so

      Sensory Input / Response

      See ass (yours or others ) / Sniff it!!
      See leg / Hump it!
      See food / Eat it!
      See balls / Lick it!
      Hear noise / Bark at it!

    2. Re:Recommended Reading ... by RogL · · Score: 1

      Well, when dogs are thinking and reasoning like that, they probably were part of some genetic experiment to increase brain capacity and intelligence. You see most dogs follow fairly simple sensory input / response programs like so

      Sensory Input / Response

      See ass (yours or others ) / Sniff it!!
      See leg / Hump it!
      See food / Eat it!
      See balls / Lick it!
      Hear noise / Bark at it!

      My neighbor's dog must be advanced, he has a default level of response:

      Sensory Input / Response

      Nothing is Happening / Bark continuously!

    3. Re:Recommended Reading ... by Johnno74 · · Score: 1

      I suggest you chuck a large block of chocolate over the fence as a special treat for it. I hear dogs really love that stuff.

    4. Re:Recommended Reading ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, when dogs are thinking and reasoning like that, they probably were part of some genetic experiment to increase brain capacity and intelligence. You see most dogs follow fairly simple sensory input / response programs like so

      Sensory Input / Response

      See ass (yours or others ) / Sniff it!!
      See leg / Hump it!
      See food / Eat it!
      See balls / Lick it!
      Hear noise / Bark at it!

      My neighbor's dog must be advanced, he has a default level of response:

      Sensory Input / Response

      Nothing is Happening / Bark continuously!

      You don't live next door to me do you? The damn dog is barking now as I type. God only knows what at and she doesn't get bored of it...

  17. Biology by feedayeen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just to elaborate, if this rabbit mates, it's children will not be radioactive nor will they receive radioactive materials. The problem is only with this generation.

    That would only be true if it were a male since I doubt a significant amount of material will be carried into the female in the seaman. If the rabbit is female, the radioactive materials will be in the mother's body while the fetus is developing. At this point the question becomes whether the materials are capable of being digested and incorporated into the mother's system, assuming this is true, the materials could very well be teratogens and thus incorporated into the next generation. This really isn't a problem though. Only a fraction of the radioactive materials would be able to pass onto each consecutive generation, it won't take long for it to reach normal levels. If the levels are high enough to be life threatening, the mother would most likely die before giving birth or any future generations from radioactive rabbits will be sterile or die before they even reach reproductive age, which is what, six hours?

    1. Re:Biology by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      If the contaminated material is a building block of organic life (e.g. amino acids) then what you proposed is correct. However, the use of the word 'teratogen' is incorrect. Teratogen means (in the strict sense of the word) a material that can cause birth defects, the best known example is Thalidomide. A teratogen is not a material that is being "incorporated into the next generation"
      A compound can be teratogenic without being radioactive. On the flip side, a radioactive material can be of low enough intensity so it does not cause birth defects and only will cause problems after a long exposure, for example cancer. It can also be of strong enough intensity to cause fetal death long before defect can arise. The Goldilocks material will be just right...

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    2. Re:Biology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt a significant amount of material will be carried into the female in the seaman.

      What exactly is this seaman doing?

    3. Re:Biology by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Funny

      doubt a significant amount of material will be carried into the female in the seaman.

      What exactly is this seaman doing?

      Shagging rabbits, obviously! This is what sailors will resort to when you don't allow women on board a ship.

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  18. A-Literate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alliterations Are Amazingly, Astoundingly Aggravating.

  19. Predator's scent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must be difficult to get!
    Maybe they asked Arnie if he had any left...

  20. Seagull Shit in Sellafield Similarly Shines by phonewebcam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Which is not only an older story but totally owns your feeble bunny piece in the alliteration league: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7040256.ece

  21. According to a Seattle columnist by baegucb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ron Judd asked a good question: News stories about the Hanford creature said "Washington state Health Department workers with the Office of Radiation Protection have been searching for contaminated rabbit droppings." Exactly how short of a straw does one have to draw to get that assignment?

  22. Re:The rest of the article? by khallow · · Score: 1

    The summary sort of white washes the level of concern here. Later in the article we find out that this is happening because radioactive salts were deposited into the ground/water, and that there were radioactive wasps flying around too.

    Given that there's somewhere in excess of 300 million radioactive humans milling about the countryside as well, we might not have a problem here. Just because something is radioactive, doesn't mean that it is dangerous (or rather more dangerous than normal).

  23. Oak Ridge Duck Poo by supercrisp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I live near Oak Ridge, and they had a problem about two years ago with radioactive duck droppings. The facilities from WW2 are sometimes poorly documented. So there were some unknown of pipes running under a small pond. Radioactive stuff leaked, plants grew from that soil, ducks ate it, and then waddled around the area doing what ducks do(o). It was moderately expensive to clean up. Though I think worth the cost in (grim) chuckles. The clean-up of the whole facility up there has been going on for some time, and will likely continue. I'm not all surprised to read about radioactive rabbit poo at Hanford. Lucky it's not pigeons....

    1. Re:Oak Ridge Duck Poo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the early 90s, it was about frogs. Frogs from contaminated ponds in Oak Ridge were tripping sensors in various places, and they eventually contaminated the tires of cars driving over them. There were "Beware of Radioactive Frogs" signs, and a song was even written for the occasion: Hot Frogs on the Loose.

    2. Re:Oak Ridge Duck Poo by thermopile · · Score: 1
      Yes, if it were pigeons, it would be deemed airborne radiation, meaning everyone in the area would have to get fitted with respirators, hoods, and full-body anti-contamination suits.

      Silly rabbit, radiation is for RADCON.

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    3. Re:Oak Ridge Duck Poo by supercrisp · · Score: 1

      OK. I have to find a copy of "Hot Frogs on the Loose." I'll be calling the campus radio station from my office tomorrow....

    4. Re:Oak Ridge Duck Poo by fermion · · Score: 1

      And 20 years ago it was frogs

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  24. They actually created a real Energizer Bunny? by Marrow · · Score: 1

    Those Fools! Boy are they going to be sorry, because it just keeps going and going and going!

    1. Re:They actually created a real Energizer Bunny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Police news report: Energizer Bunny arrested. Charged with Battery.

    2. Re:They actually created a real Energizer Bunny? by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      There's nothing to worry about the new breed of energizer bunnies. They don't wanna work, they just wanna bang on the drum all day.

  25. Could be far more important. by CFD339 · · Score: 1

    This could mean a breakthrough!

    This single rabbit could actually be one of the ORIGINAL rabbits used for testing, who happened to have that singular genetic mutation which allows it to live on indefinitely (with the exception of accident and predation of course). Having captured the rabbit, they'll now be able to figure out what mutation occurred and suddenly immortality for humans is just around the corner.....bwahahahahaha

    Or maybe it just ate something. Whatever.

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  26. Incredible funny(maybe?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading this gives the me the image of Bugs Bunny in the episode Dr. Jekel and Mr. Hyde. Long live Bruce Banner!

  27. mmh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should be easy to spot. It's the rabbit with the three eyes. :)

  28. Wonder how difficult it will be to catch by captainproton1971 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tim: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!
    Sir Galahad: Get stuffed!
    Tim: He'll do you up a treat, mate.
    Sir Galahad: Oh, yeah?
    Sir Robin: You manky Scots git!
    Tim: I'm warning you!
    Sir Robin: What's he do? Nibble your bum?
    Tim: He's got huge, sharp... er... He can leap about. Look at the bones!

    1. Re:Wonder how difficult it will be to catch by swb · · Score: 1

      They'll probably call in an A-10 strike.

    2. Re:Wonder how difficult it will be to catch by Roskolnikov · · Score: 1

      Let me guess, using depleted uranium rounds? couple of strikes and the depleted could become enriched?

      double hot dead rabbit, next up, hot scavengers.

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  29. Sussh! by jd2112 · · Score: 1

    Be Vewwy Vewwy Quiet, I'm hunting Wadioactive Wabbits! - E. Fudd, WA Office of Radiation Protection.

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  30. Anyone remember reading by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

    Thunder Bunny?

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  31. this just in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wadioactive wabbits in washington are on the woose! Not to worry Mr Fudd is on the case, its wabbit season you know.

  32. Well all I can say is... by binaryseraph · · Score: 1

    what a shitty problem!

  33. Now that's cool by Archeleus · · Score: 1

    Wonder what mutations can occur given that the amount of radiation is small? Also, why wouldn't the rabbits children be toxic? Given its a female rabbit.

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    1. Re:Now that's cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Wonder what mutations can occur given that the amount of radiation is small? Also, why wouldn't the rabbits children be toxic? Given its a female rabbit.

      From the wabbit's perspective, much of the nasty stuff is pooped right back out again.

      The point - as everyone on this thread has seemed to miss - isn't that the wabbits are wadioactive. It's not that Elmer might finally catch one and increase his lifetime w(OK, I'll stop, honest!)risk of cancer by a miniscule percentage when he eats it.

      The point is that if there's enough to make even one rabbit's poop hot, then there must be some unknown hotter source on the site. Tricky part is finding it.

      Could be a long-lost barrel of goo that finally leaked, and a rabbit walked through the goo and licked its paws. (But that would probably have been found by now.)

      More likely, it's a long-lost barrel of goo buried beneath a few tons of dirt - with a few pounds of rabbit food growing in it - is the source. (That's important to find. It's also a minor hazard to the cleanup crew.)

      Problem is, it could also be a long-lost pile of barrels of goo that are all leaking, and there could be hundreds of tons of dirt that need to be excavated sooner, rather than later, before the goo hits the water table. (That's really important to find. It's not just a serious hazard to the cleanup guys, it's a hazard to everyone who uses that aquifer for drinking water.)

      Lost in all the fearmongering is the fact that this is the first place on the planet where anyone tried to work with this stuff, and at the time, they really didn't know any better. We've learned a lot about health physics since then (unfortunately, we learned a lot of it it the hard way), and we've gotten a lot more diligent at not letting the crap leak in the first place. We're also really good at detecting it than we were back then, so we're actually capable of finding it and cleaning it up before it does any more harm.

      Anyways, the reason they're hunting wabbits isn't because the bunnies are scary. It's because they need to know where the wadioactive susbstances got into the wabbits in the first place.

      (If you played Fallout 3, think back to Vault 87? The goo in the room was an indicator of just how hot things were at the surface. The levels in the real world are lower by a factor of billions, but that's essentially what's going on here.)

  34. Re:Extreme government corruption by Barrinmw · · Score: 1

    Government Corruption? Do you know how hard it is to clean up contamination? If they go by anything close to navy standards, they have to get everything down to essentially background. And zero detectable alpha decays. This essentially means they have to comb through the entire plant inch by inch. Also, there is expected contamination meaning they have to take certain precautions such as wearing anti-contamination suits and such. 40 years to clean out an entire factory? I can believe it.

  35. Sounds like a job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For these guys!

  36. Obvious solution by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

    The obvious solution is to release radioactive foxes to hunt them down.

  37. Glow in the dark critters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hanford is a beautiful place between the mountains and a bend in the Columbia river. It has stunning natural beauty and many man-made attractions. For example, did you ever wonder
    where those nasty old reactors from nuclear submarines end up?

    Paducah, Kentucky is also brimming with natural and unnatural wonders. Of course, it's hard to beat the West Kentucky State Wildlife Management Area for glow in the dark critters. If you think those look like giant casks of radioactive waste - you're right!!

    Isn't it nice that this kind of material is always stored near a scenic river that supplies water to hundreds of thousands of people. There are hundreds of other similar sites on Google Maps - many near you. See how many you can find!

  38. Re:The rest of the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahhh yes....the head-in-sand defense. Nice. What special interest do YOU represent, huh?

  39. ...with nasty big pointy teeth! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Follow, but follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so fowl, so cruel that no man yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of four fifty men lie strewn about its lair! So, brave knights, if you do doubt your courage, or your strength, come nay further, for death awaits you all . . . with nasty big pointy teeth!

  40. Cold Radioactive Rabbit Fusion Reactor? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    The rabbit itself though, is not radioactive.

    So does that mean that my plans for generating electricity with a cold radioactive rabbit fusion reactor won't work?

    I'll write it up anyway, maybe it will be good enough for an Ig Nobel.

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    1. Re:Cold Radioactive Rabbit Fusion Reactor? by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      Given what the rabbits are contaminated with that would be a fission reactor.

  41. Origins by woboyle · · Score: 1

    LOL! NOW I know where the Energizer Bunny came from! As in the old Timex watch commercial - it (the Geiger counter) just keeps on tickin'... So, back when I was a student at the University of Colorado (1960's), my buddies and I would motor down the road to the Coors plant in Golden around the end of the month when we were out of beer money, take the tour, and then suck up the free suds (no such thing as a designated driver in those days), staggering back to Boulder a few hours later. On the way we would pass by the Rocky Flats plutonium plant and speculate on when those radioactive prairie dogs and their radioactive fleas mutated one of their not-infrequent cases of prairie dog bubonic plague, resulting in the demise of civilization as we know it. So, what has changed? :rolleyes:

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  42. Nuclear Paranoia (Not) by careysub · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cesium is more dangerous as a toxic heavy metal than as a radioactive source and the level of Cessium was insufficient to kill the rabbit via toxicity, because it's still only as toxic as common salt. When Cesium decays it emits Beta radiation which doesn't penetrate heavy clothing and barely penetrates the skin. The level of Radioactivity was insufficient to kill the rabbit but they still go to all that trouble to track it down. All the hallmarks of Nuclear Paranoia.

    Any sample of Cesium-137 also emits strong gamma rays - 662 keV - due to its decay product Ba-137m with a half life of 2.55 minutes. So yes, handling anything containing Cs-137 is irradiating your internal organs at the same time. It has been used for radiography in medicine for decades. Check out the Goiania Brazil disaster where hundreds were significantly exposed to an old Cs-137 source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident). I have no idea where you are getting this "cesium is more dangerous as a toxic heavy metal" nonsense.

    The problem is that the rabbits on the reservation are distributing lumps of long-lived radiation (Cs-137 and Sr-90 are both commonly found) that considerably exceed safety standards (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/15/science/earth/15rabbit.html ). This means they have a legal responsibility to control this exposure. Note also that low-level exposure to radiation causes a cumulative increase in cancer risk, so the fact that no one will show symptoms from handling radioactive rabbit poop does not mean it is "safe".

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    1. Re:Nuclear Paranoia (Not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any sample of Cesium-137 also emits strong gamma rays - 662 keV - due to its decay product Ba-137m with a half life of 2.55 minutes.

      RABBIT SMASH!!!!

    2. Re:Nuclear Paranoia (Not) by IAAE · · Score: 1

      With respect to your comment that "low-level exposure to radiation causes a cumulative increase in cancer risk" is an assumption made by the bodies who write the rules about nuclear exposure and safety. That is based on their assumption that the body does not repair damaged DNA, ever. There is actually much more evidence to the contrary that low-level exposure to radiation reduces cancer risk. See "Radiation Hormesis".

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  43. Re:The rest of the article? by khallow · · Score: 1

    Ahhh yes....the head-in-sand defense. Nice. What special interest do YOU represent, huh?

    My own. The point here is that merely referring to something as "radioactive" is vastly uninformative when everything, with few exceptions, is radioactive.

  44. Ang Lee's Watership Down? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If all else fails they can call in Bunnicula. He's always been a good sport.

  45. It's.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WABBIT SEATHON!!!1!!1

  46. I got no complaint with wadioactive wabbits... by macraig · · Score: 1

    ... because I've always preferred my meat hot rather than lukewarm.

  47. Taking a position, but with complete ignorance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know NOTHING about the situation, correct? You know NOTHING about the huge contracts, correct?

    It's not a "factory".

    1. Re:Taking a position, but with complete ignorance? by Barrinmw · · Score: 1

      I think you underestimate how hard it is to get rid of...53 million gallons of anything.

  48. "Hot Frogs On the Loose" - sequel? by davidwr · · Score: 1

    From Fred Small's album Everything Possible: Hot Frogs on the Loose.

    OK, who wants to write the bunny version?

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  49. I understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That Hugh Hefner has joined the search team. No one can track down hot bunnies like Hef.

  50. How to make a dirty bomb by ecbpro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Take a radioactive rabbit and let it do its droppings somewhere...
    I am sure if some terrorist had released such rabbits in some western city some poor country would be bombarded right now.

  51. Simple question to determine # of Rabbits by asicsolutions · · Score: 1

    What is the half-life of radioactive rabbit dropping?

  52. Do you know how many times I had to Type "R"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    6 times to Type "R", not including "r" which doesn't need a Shift-key.

  53. Radioactive Rabbit Feces?? by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    Now that's some hot shit!!

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  54. What has science done? by chickenrob · · Score: 1

    look it up

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  55. Your DHS dollars at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the Kester Kops (aka TSA) from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have their work to do with tasting the rabbit dodo.

  56. Have to say... by Roskolnikov · · Score: 1

    Thats one hot rabbit, no, really, its hot.

    And while we're on the topic of hot rabbit, do you suppose rabbit finished on plutonium taste less gamey?

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  57. Efficient and meaningful oversight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not the primary issue. The primary issue is that a huge amount of taxpayer money is being spent, without efficient and meaningful oversight.

  58. Nothing New by MercTech · · Score: 1

    With the acres and acres of URMAs (Underground Radioactive Materials Areas... leftover from "oops" suring cold war secrecy) radioactive flora and fauna are nothing new. Radioactive rabbits are just new in some journalist's tiny little mind.

    Tubmbleweed can have a 120 foot deep taproot and can bioconcentrate radionuclides.

    In the seven years I worked at Hanford, many times I pooper scooped radioactive rabbit and coyote droppings that were near the work trailers of the remediation projects I was on. Don't even get me talking about the damned high radiation areas caused by mud swallow nests.

    Slowly, as long as they don't pull funding again to pay for Iraq, the problem will go away as the various contaminated sites are remediated.

    Remember, the DOE had no coordinated radiation protection program with force of law until 1995 and all the messes happened under the veil of secrecy and clearance before then.

    MercTech

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  59. Boom Rabbits by Pirahnya · · Score: 1

    So, does this mean it's theoretical to create miniature nuclear devices (WND) from rabbit turds? Perhaps to deter ravaging foxes or slavering wolves? Imagine the possibilities! And if that is a possibility, will the TSA now require every traveler to submit to a fecal analysis before boarding? America, after all, could use the new jobs. Yes, I think I'd like to be an FMI (Fecal Matter Inspector). Would I need a security clearance?

  60. I Know, But Someone Has to Say It by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    So, what was found was some, "Hot Shit?"

  61. Wow...what a great idea for a new cartoon by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    Radioactive Rocker Rabbits....

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    Ordinary rabbits mutated by a nuclear waste into Radioactive Rocker Rabbits. Becoming one of the world's most popular rock bands, and super heroes.

    Perfect for the 80's...eh?

  62. Who will save us now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deforest Kelley's been dead for years!

  63. Apply the TSA total body scan limits. by niftymitch · · Score: 1

    So how does this risk and the total population risk of the now way too common total body scanners compare?

    I should skip the rant on total body scans or optional groping of children or my hair will fall out.

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  64. Neo, follow the green rabbit... by Wynter+Stark · · Score: 1

    Should make for an interesting Easter.

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