Tell that to the hundreds that have died in Turkey as a result of his organizations plans in car bombings.Tell that to the thousands of people and families that lost loved ones because of the trade center. Tell that to the TENS OF THOUSANDS of fellow innocent muslims he (and his organization at his direction) killed for his own egotistical views. Tell that to the children who are brainwashed into believing this ultra conservative religious mindset so they can be used for the sole purpose of being "martyrs" (pawns) and blowing themselves up in the streets killing more innocent civilians. There are plenty of reasons to dislike the US. But as far as Bin Laden goes, this guy should have been turned inside out and beaten publicly. His porn stash going public should be only the start to the humiliation of him and everything and everyone who sides with him.
Oh and by the way, one of the ways his organization funded itself (Aside from selling drugs) was through enslaving women and forcing them to make pornographic material so it could be sold.
From Facebooks Terms of service:
Sharing Your Content and Information
You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy and application settings. In addition:
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.
As far as who the information is sold to- who cares? Your data has been bought, sold, traded, bargained and raped LONG before facebook even came into existence. Its just a little easier to send a zip file online than a few stacks of paper over snail mail. The moment you opened up a credit card, bought a house, went to school, went to college, were born, died- all that information exists in a public domain and has been bought up, parsed compiled and there exists a digital file somewhere of "you" It may or may not have your name, but you can bet it has all the other data on it. Now, is it right? Depends. If you have submitted data to the "public sphere" then you have it coming to you. I myself, don't mind if the data I conciously provide is used. All they have is a name, an email address (which I use specific for social networking) my age and geographic location. Beyond that they may be able to piece together some complicated logic scrips to pull out some of my likes and dislikes (oh, and yes, facebook sells that tidbit of data when you click on something saying you like pickels, or hate cats- why wouldn't they?).
I'm going to pause on that tantrum (as I expect a plethora of responses and picking out of lines i've written for rebuttal and move to an alternate way to look at things:
What if the ad's you saw online were suddenly realevant to you? You got ads for upcoming software releases, music events for bands I actually want to know about, cheap computer parts or even low air fares to my favorite destinations. All of a sudden I am being given marketing data that I actually might be interested in. Like turning on the TV and having really awesom comercials for products I give a rats ass about. At the end of the day, that is what marketing firms are doing here. They are not taking your data so they can make sure the only ads you get are for pampers diapers and coupons for grade C tuna fish that expired last year.
Anyway, enough of my playing devils advocate. I am a champion of privacy- but I also understand why and how my data is shared- I just make a point to control what data I put out into the world. Others should take this mindset too.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again (even though it's not popular), but no one is holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them to use facebook "or else." They can only use the personal info you give them- and rightly so. They make it glaringly obvious that is how they make their money. Government oversight in this case will only lead to more laws. More laws will lead to less internet(personal) freedom. After all, the Internet is a privilege not a right (and should remain as such).
Quite frankly, if you don't want the information shared- you shouldn't put it out there to begin with. Facebook should be able to sell of any data it wishes provided users know they are giving up that information freely. If they don't read the TOS the fault should be on them.
He should have have chosen a judge, not a jury. My guess is a very different outcome would have come from a judge as opposed to a sympathetic Jury to someone losing their job. I hope his appeal wins in either case.
A couple years ago google bought a company that produces software my company uses. They almost over-night fired a vast majority of the mid-level and upper management and replaced them with 'google quality' managers (mostly master degree and doctorate holders who had very little knowledge of the product they were now managing). The absolute downfall in the quality of the support, product and resources was immediately felt. All in all, Google really needs to overhaul who and what they hire. A "strong accademic record" is not an indicator of intelligence or ability to think outside the box. It cirtianly doesn't show off management and technical skills.
when its ALL conservatives who are telling you the problem is the government agencies that DON'T have police powers.
I am a conservative and I don't believe the issue is about agencies that have or don't have police powers.
But I digress. The fact still remains that whole ordeal has nothing to do with democrats or republicans. It has to do with the current state of American political mindset as a whole and its lack of rational decision making, but instead knee-jerk reactions to situations that may or may not be a threat. Every argument made thus far has been a result of political view, not government view. It is far to easy to start bringing in military, arts, big government, small government, police, education, health care into this- the fact is they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the issue. Yes republicans have made some really crap decisions, and they have a major PR problem (amongst other issues like being hijacked by ass-hats like huckabee and palin) but these still have nothing to do with a Govt' agency which has managed to ignore the laws of the land, or at least waste tax dollars on non-viable threats.
Yes, I know this doesn't fall into the liberal narrative that usually posted through slashdot, but really, lets take politics out and just look at where the real failures lie.
That is one thing that drives me absolutely crazy about this country- The assumption it has that US law is WORLD law. Frankly it drives me bonkers (especially in much higher profile situations a la wikileaks)
I had to download it before making a comment on here and I'm actually really impressed with this and quite frankly, I find this far superior to GIMP (speaking as a professional graphic artists and avid photoshop,etc. user). It does a fantastic job of working in vector as well as tracing bitmaps. Even has a fine set of effects (that I'd probably never use, but still awesome to see). At first glance, this is a great graphics app for anyone on Linux who has the avid hatred of GIMP.
The job of the government is to keep its information secure and plug the leaks where they can and punish those who leak the info. This is not abnormal (and, quite honestly, I find it comforting). Now, going after reporters to try and get their sources, this is a little bit of a step over a grey fuzzy line- but not at all shocking. There is some mighty sensitive data out there that can actually do *real harm* if released.
On the flip side, if data is released well as they say "thems the breaks." Better luck next time to the govt to check out its staff- and not shooting the messenger.
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William Shatner... Then you are not welcome.
Why is this on /. ???
Tell that to the hundreds that have died in Turkey as a result of his organizations plans in car bombings.Tell that to the thousands of people and families that lost loved ones because of the trade center. Tell that to the TENS OF THOUSANDS of fellow innocent muslims he (and his organization at his direction) killed for his own egotistical views. Tell that to the children who are brainwashed into believing this ultra conservative religious mindset so they can be used for the sole purpose of being "martyrs" (pawns) and blowing themselves up in the streets killing more innocent civilians. There are plenty of reasons to dislike the US. But as far as Bin Laden goes, this guy should have been turned inside out and beaten publicly. His porn stash going public should be only the start to the humiliation of him and everything and everyone who sides with him.
Oh and by the way, one of the ways his organization funded itself (Aside from selling drugs) was through enslaving women and forcing them to make pornographic material so it could be sold.
From Facebooks Terms of service:
Sharing Your Content and Information
You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy and application settings. In addition:
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.
As far as who the information is sold to- who cares? Your data has been bought, sold, traded, bargained and raped LONG before facebook even came into existence. Its just a little easier to send a zip file online than a few stacks of paper over snail mail. The moment you opened up a credit card, bought a house, went to school, went to college, were born, died- all that information exists in a public domain and has been bought up, parsed compiled and there exists a digital file somewhere of "you" It may or may not have your name, but you can bet it has all the other data on it. Now, is it right? Depends. If you have submitted data to the "public sphere" then you have it coming to you. I myself, don't mind if the data I conciously provide is used. All they have is a name, an email address (which I use specific for social networking) my age and geographic location. Beyond that they may be able to piece together some complicated logic scrips to pull out some of my likes and dislikes (oh, and yes, facebook sells that tidbit of data when you click on something saying you like pickels, or hate cats- why wouldn't they?).
I'm going to pause on that tantrum (as I expect a plethora of responses and picking out of lines i've written for rebuttal and move to an alternate way to look at things:
What if the ad's you saw online were suddenly realevant to you? You got ads for upcoming software releases, music events for bands I actually want to know about, cheap computer parts or even low air fares to my favorite destinations. All of a sudden I am being given marketing data that I actually might be interested in. Like turning on the TV and having really awesom comercials for products I give a rats ass about. At the end of the day, that is what marketing firms are doing here. They are not taking your data so they can make sure the only ads you get are for pampers diapers and coupons for grade C tuna fish that expired last year.
Anyway, enough of my playing devils advocate. I am a champion of privacy- but I also understand why and how my data is shared- I just make a point to control what data I put out into the world. Others should take this mindset too.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again (even though it's not popular), but no one is holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them to use facebook "or else." They can only use the personal info you give them- and rightly so. They make it glaringly obvious that is how they make their money. Government oversight in this case will only lead to more laws. More laws will lead to less internet(personal) freedom. After all, the Internet is a privilege not a right (and should remain as such).
Or to the rest of the SSL using world: CommodeHacker.
(java + fun) < (fun)
Yeah really- I mean isn't having 2 wives punishment enough?
Quite frankly, if you don't want the information shared- you shouldn't put it out there to begin with. Facebook should be able to sell of any data it wishes provided users know they are giving up that information freely. If they don't read the TOS the fault should be on them.
They should take a look at google's big querry.
... Seems they just get better with age!
He should have have chosen a judge, not a jury. My guess is a very different outcome would have come from a judge as opposed to a sympathetic Jury to someone losing their job. I hope his appeal wins in either case.
A couple years ago google bought a company that produces software my company uses. They almost over-night fired a vast majority of the mid-level and upper management and replaced them with 'google quality' managers (mostly master degree and doctorate holders who had very little knowledge of the product they were now managing). The absolute downfall in the quality of the support, product and resources was immediately felt. All in all, Google really needs to overhaul who and what they hire. A "strong accademic record" is not an indicator of intelligence or ability to think outside the box. It cirtianly doesn't show off management and technical skills.
Before I answer this, I need to put on my tinfoil hat... Now where did I last put that thing?
...It's a Space Station!
when its ALL conservatives who are telling you the problem is the government agencies that DON'T have police powers.
I am a conservative and I don't believe the issue is about agencies that have or don't have police powers.
But I digress. The fact still remains that whole ordeal has nothing to do with democrats or republicans. It has to do with the current state of American political mindset as a whole and its lack of rational decision making, but instead knee-jerk reactions to situations that may or may not be a threat.
Every argument made thus far has been a result of political view, not government view. It is far to easy to start bringing in military, arts, big government, small government, police, education, health care into this- the fact is they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the issue. Yes republicans have made some really crap decisions, and they have a major PR problem (amongst other issues like being hijacked by ass-hats like huckabee and palin) but these still have nothing to do with a Govt' agency which has managed to ignore the laws of the land, or at least waste tax dollars on non-viable threats.
Yes, I know this doesn't fall into the liberal narrative that usually posted through slashdot, but really, lets take politics out and just look at where the real failures lie.
But when it comes to warrant-less wiretaps, surveillance, etc the very same government employees are paragons of virtue and epitome of ability.
Uh got news for you dude- this happened under the Obama administration. A Democrat. Fact is politicians are to blame, not liberals or conservatives.
That is one thing that drives me absolutely crazy about this country- The assumption it has that US law is WORLD law. Frankly it drives me bonkers (especially in much higher profile situations a la wikileaks)
I had to download it before making a comment on here and I'm actually really impressed with this and quite frankly, I find this far superior to GIMP (speaking as a professional graphic artists and avid photoshop,etc. user). It does a fantastic job of working in vector as well as tracing bitmaps. Even has a fine set of effects (that I'd probably never use, but still awesome to see). At first glance, this is a great graphics app for anyone on Linux who has the avid hatred of GIMP.
The job of the government is to keep its information secure and plug the leaks where they can and punish those who leak the info. This is not abnormal (and, quite honestly, I find it comforting). Now, going after reporters to try and get their sources, this is a little bit of a step over a grey fuzzy line- but not at all shocking. There is some mighty sensitive data out there that can actually do *real harm* if released.
On the flip side, if data is released well as they say "thems the breaks." Better luck next time to the govt to check out its staff- and not shooting the messenger.
well played, sir.
I'm trying really hard to not make a KY joke out of this.
..they might indicate that your tuna is rancid...
My god, man, where are you getting your tuna from?
Well at least we know it's a certified windows product now.
You know, houses are valuable possessions too
As a matter of fact I have a glass one for sale...