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Homeland Security Drops Color-Coded Terror Alerts

Hugh Pickens writes "The LA Times reports that the Homeland Security Department is poised to end its five-tiered, color-coded terrorism warning system, a post-Sept. 11 endeavor that has been called too vague to be useful and has been mostly ignored or mocked by the public. The domestic security advisory system was created in 2002 under then-Secretary Tom Ridge and in 2004, the department began assigning color threat levels to general targets such as aviation, financial services and mass transit. However the Department hasn't changed the alert level in four years, even after the attempted bombing of a flight to Detroit on Christmas Day 2009 and the alert level has only been elevated to red once, on Aug. 10, 2006, when British police disrupted a plot to detonate liquid explosives on airliners. Although it is unknown what, if anything, will replace the color-coded alerts, a senior Homeland Security official, who did not want to speak on the record about a decision still under review, says that 'the goal is to replace a system that communicates nothing.'" Can't we just re-use the big DefCon displays from Wargames?

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  1. A programmers approach by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Disclaimer: I’m Canadian, so my view of this whole color coded terror alert thing may be a bit off.

    Rather than trying to produce something that “provides more information”, try producing something that directly satisfies someones requirements.

    Who wants this information. What are they going to do with it? Lets say we are a financial institution and our terror alert is high.. what does this mean to us? How does it change our activities for today? What threat specific info would be useful in guiding us?

    I think “levels” are kind of silly.. the information should be self explanatory and maybe in bulletin form. “There was an attempted bombing. We are not sure if this is isolated or part of a larger plot. Similar institutions or people in the same geographic area should be on the lookout for: whatever.” If there is a transit bombing.. then other transit institutions should be notified and some kind of established procedures should go into effect.

    Using colors I think was especially silly, because paraphrasing Lewis Black (with less profanity), every time they talk about the color they have to explain what it means anyway.

    1. Re:A programmers approach by peragrin · · Score: 1

      I agreed right up until you said geographic area.

      Canada and the USA are too large. Someone making a statement could very easily attack NY, chicago, and LA all at the same time. Limiting yourself to a geographic area is limiting.

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    2. Re:A programmers approach by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, and

      Burma Shave

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    3. Re:A programmers approach by line-bundle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is bad even for a troll. The above (like this response) has nothing to do with the article at hand, not even tangentially.

      Read the masters before trolling. It takes practice, and years of refining.

    4. Re:A programmers approach by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about "Warning! Some bad shit may happen somewhere on planet Earth! Be careful!"

    5. Re:A programmers approach by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      the problem is the new system is just as much bullshit as the last.

      saying that we are in a continually elevated threat of terrorism (at a minimum) is a complete misnomer.

    6. Re:A programmers approach by Anrego · · Score: 1

      saying that we are in a continually elevated threat of terrorism (at a minimum) is a complete misnomer.

      Indeed. A base level should be established and called simply "the norm". The whole "always in danger" thing seems mostly political.

      Bulletins (or deviations from the norm) should be posted when a specific event happens. Some arbitrary "level" is just silly because no one is ever going to want to lower it.. which completely defeats any meaning it holds.

    7. Re:A programmers approach by Anrego · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "News for nerds"

      A large portion of the slashdot crowd (and nerds in general) have an interest in security (and security theater).

      This is more slashdot-ish than a lot of stuff I've seen in the last few years.

    8. Re:A programmers approach by davester666 · · Score: 1

      That is not nearly strong enough.

      Hasn't HS left the warning level at: "An attack within the borders of the US is immanent within the next 24 hours" for the past 4 years?

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    9. Re:A programmers approach by xaxa · · Score: 1

      I agreed right up until you said geographic area.

      Canada and the USA are too large. Someone making a statement could very easily attack NY, chicago, and LA all at the same time. Limiting yourself to a geographic area is limiting.

      Then say "the USA" as your geographic area, but say "Chicago" if intelligence suggests the problem is specific to Chicago.

    10. Re:A programmers approach by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agreed with you until you said planet Earth.

      The solar system is too large. Someone making a statement could very easily attack the Washington Monument, the face on Mars and the Apollo landing site all at the same time. Limiting yourself to a planet is limiting.

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    11. Re:A programmers approach by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No system can help. It's not the specificity of the system that's the problem, it's that it's being run by Chicken Little.

      The terror threat went to RED, meaning attack imminent based on the group in the U.K. that were allegedly working on a binary explosive. What we don't hear as often is that it could never have been made to work ever (unless they could somehow talk the flight attendant into letting them take 50 pounds of ice into the lav), and they didn't even have passports needed to board a flight to the U.S. In spite of that, we still can't take liquids on the plane to this day. (BTW, the final result of the chemistry is a white crystalline powder, so it's not like the liquid ban will help if they mix it in advance).

      The terror threat NEVER got below yellow even for a second. An alarm that never stops sounding eventually becomes background noise and then means nothing at all.

      Meanwhile, the special procedures supposed to go into effect with a higher threat level never actually caught anyone doing anything anywhere. Not once.

      People don't make fun of the alert system because it was inherently silly, they make fun of it because the people running the system are silly. The color code just provides us with a gauge of how silly they are.

      People will make fun of the new system as well. That's not because of the system, it's because the same silly cowards will be running it.

    12. Re:A programmers approach by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Funny

      Someone on here had a sig like:

      "Be afraid...be yellow afraid...now be orange afraid! Good dog."

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    13. Re:A programmers approach by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People will make fun of the new system as well. That's not because of the system, it's because the same silly cowards will be running it.

      To prove your point "One alternative under consideration is to change to only two threat levels: elevated and imminent."

      "Elevated?" From what? From what we'd like it to be? From what we assumed it was before 9/11? From

      I'm guessing this is how the new threat level indicator was conceived: A TSA head was wondering how he could convince people to still be afraid and get their congressmen to keep increasing the TSA budget as he wandered into a McDonalds. He asked for a diet coke, small. The cashier said "We only have large, extra large, and jumbo." He said "The smallest size is large? You're just trying to convince people they're getting more when actually.... ohhhhhhhh...."

    14. Re:A programmers approach by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Disclaimer: I’m Canadian, so my view of this whole color coded terror alert thing may be a bit off.

      Canadians have it easy with color codes: "Don't eat yellow snow!"

      Who wants this information. What are they going to do with it? Lets say we are a financial institution and our terror alert is high.. what does this mean to us? How does it change our activities for today? What threat specific info would be useful in guiding us?

      The terror color codes of the day are purple and green. Dress up today in you Barney the Dinosaur costumes.

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    15. Re:A programmers approach by Landshark17 · · Score: 1

      You are correct about the useless nature of "treat levels" which this system provided, however you missed the point of why it existed in the first place. It was brought about because the government needed to look like it was doing something, and in America that's just as important as actually doing something. Specific information would be far more useful, but it takes time and effort to collect, connect and distribute. If a threat is centralized in one place and that place gets a proper, specific warning, people everywhere else are going to say "Why didn't I get anything?" even if there's zero chance they were at risk. Additionally, there isn't always reliable or detailed intelligence with which to make good warnings. When there isn't, the government can't just say "Yeah, we have no intel today." because they'd look lazy and incompetent. Enter the Color Coded Terror Alerts, the government can please everyone by making something that sounds like a warning, but without the burden of correlating data, or the risk of revealing there is none.

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    16. Re:A programmers approach by liam193 · · Score: 1

      If I recall correctly, the levels do serve a purpose (or at least were supposed to serve a purpose). The reason for the levels is so that funding can be tied to a specific level. For example, there may be funding to support a certain number of person hours at yellow and more hours to support more guards, etc. when you reach orange. The point is, without some kind of level that takes a subjective "bad stuff is more likely to happen/has happened" and changes it to "we are now at orange/red", it is nearly impossible to get approval for additional resources rolled out throughout government entities quickly enough to be of any benefit. If you take away the level's you end up with a scenario where they say, "we have a high probability of an attack in this area"; the leaders in the field say, "so does that mean we can bring in more resources?"; and the question doesn't through all the channels to get an answer until the threat has passed or the attack has occurred.

    17. Re:A programmers approach by babyrat · · Score: 1

      the problem is the new system is just as much bullshit as the last.

      From the summary:

                      Although it is unknown what, if anything, will replace the color-coded alerts

      So although it is unknown if the old system will be replaced, the new system (which doesn't exist) is bullshit?

    18. Re:A programmers approach by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

      Bingo. I was going to explain exactly that, but you beat me to it. As a further thing, in addition to increased funding/resource availability, actual security procedures change. Like when I used to work at City Hall, at Orange we got additional guard/police presence... At red every entrance but one is shut down and everyone going in or out of the building has to check in with a security desk.

      Now, whether any of this has merit or is even useful is another conversation entirely... But there WAS a well-thought out (if not necessarily well-reasoned) reason for the terror alert levels.

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  2. Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Alert by mysidia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any higher level alert will be avoided as it could cause a panic and play into the terrorists' hands.

    Any lower level alert will never be used because by design the war on terror is a perpetual war . And ending the crisis would constitute the government surrendering power back to the people, which they don't want to do.

  3. This actually makes sense by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    This actually makes sense. The "threat level orange" was getting pretty ridiculous, and political chances of the "threat level" ever returning to "green" or even "yellow" seemed awfully remote.

    1. Re:This actually makes sense by MrMickS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Getting rid of it makes sense. Replacing it with something else doesn't. The true threat level can't be communicated to the general public as it would cause awkward questions. The current situation raises one awkward question that seems unpatriotic to ask. "Why is there always a threat of terrorism?"

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    2. Re:This actually makes sense by houghi · · Score: 1

      "Why is there always a threat of terrorism?"
      Because people in the anti-Wolf business like crying wolf.

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  4. How about... by Openstandards.net · · Score: 1

    how many fingers am I holding up?

  5. How about a car analogy? by Jojoba86 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not use probability average American will get killed in a car accident divided by probability they will be killed by a terrorist.

    It gives a useful comparison, is verifiable and makes the danger level obvious to all.

    1. Re:How about a car analogy? by 6031769 · · Score: 1

      I think it would be more intuitive if you were to swap the numerator and denominator. Otherwise, it's a good plan with much to recommend it.

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    2. Re:How about a car analogy? by Jojoba86 · · Score: 1

      Damn it, that's the way round I intended!

      I never say the complete opposite of what I mean.

    3. Re:How about a car analogy? by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      You answered your own question there.

      Why not[...]?

      Because...

      it [...] makes the danger level obvious to all.

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    4. Re:How about a car analogy? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      We Americans aren't that good at math. Perhaps we could have some sort of Dorito-coded threat system? We could go from threat level cool-ranch all the way through threat level spicy-nacho!

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    5. Re:How about a car analogy? by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not use probability average American will get killed in a car accident divided by probability they will be killed by a terrorist.

      Because then the Palin administration will successfully reduce the threat of terrorism by banning seat belts.

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    6. Re:How about a car analogy? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      That sort of thing is presumably of interest to statisticians. For an individual it's a little low detailed since I can affect my chances of being involved in a car accident by not travelling by car, and can affect the probability of being involved in a terror incident by not using public transport or visiting important buildings.

      We could give a few actions a equivalent driving distance risk. For example travelling on a plane has equivalent risk from terror attacks as dying from driving 5 miles. That's assuming we take data for 10 years including 9/11.

    7. Re:How about a car analogy? by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      You mean a system that makes it obvious what a pitifully small risk terrorism actually is in this country? Obviously that idea is a nonstarter.

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    8. Re:How about a car analogy? by ebuck · · Score: 1

      Strike that, reverse it.

    9. Re:How about a car analogy? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      You're more likely to be killed by choosing Car A from the lot than Car B (Car B being modestly safer) than you are to choose to board an airplane with no screening procedures.

      The tactic of using an airplane as a missile was only valid until 9:57 AM on 9/11/2001. An airplane full of ordinary Americans figured out the security equation over a field in Shanksville, PA. The hardened cockpit doors made double-sure immediately thereafter. So, the public risk has been eliminated.

      TSA is merely eliminating private risk choices at this point.

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  6. Replacement by JohnyDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet the replacement will be 2-way switch with labels "Terror" and "More Terror" glued shut in the latter position.

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    1. Re:Replacement by ddxexex · · Score: 2, Interesting

      According to the article the replacement is 'elevated' and 'imminent'. With imminent they have to say why it is imminent and give a reasonably specific reason why. So you were right about the switch, but it sounds like they are going to at least toggle the switch once or twice before it gets stuck.

    2. Re:Replacement by Arancaytar · · Score: 2, Funny

      And every time you try to switch it to "Terror" instead, it explodes?

  7. What's the use, beyond scaring people. by andsens · · Score: 1

    I mean seriously. What the hell is this good for anyways?

    1. Re:What's the use, beyond scaring people. by Beelzebud · · Score: 1

      Well one use of it was to drum up support for the President every time he screwed something up, or it looked like he was slipping in the polls. Terror alerts before, during, and after the Democratic National Convention in 2004, and not one during the entire week of the Republican Convention, as an example. Manipulation was the only use for the system, that I could see.

  8. Suggested levels by Trip6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Saddam" (i.e. no threat)
    "Oh shit, I might have bounced a check"
    "Oh shit, I bounced a check"
    "OMG"
    "OMFG"
    "Pant-shitting"

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    1. Re:Suggested levels by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Funny

      No no, this is slashdot - stick to the theme. I propose:

      -"It's just a PEBKAC"
      -"Goddammit, one of the RAID drives died"
      -"Aww fuck, the PHBs are switching us over to Outlook"
      -"What do you mean, you typed rm -rf?"
      -The Data Centre is now a swimming pool"

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    2. Re:Suggested levels by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      If you draw the control diagram suggested by the acronym, "PEBKAC" you will see the underlying problem with that production model.

      Hint 1: it's open circuit.

      Hint 2: where is your input coming from...

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    3. Re:Suggested levels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I think you meant:

      -"It's just a PEBKAC"
      -"Goddammit, one of the RAID drives died"
      -"What do you mean, you typed rm -rf?"
      -The Data Centre is now a swimming pool"
      -"Aww fuck, the PHBs are switching us over to Outlook"

    4. Re:Suggested levels by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      Where's my car analogy?!

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    5. Re:Suggested levels by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      "Driving conditions are fine"
      "It's raining, roads might be slippery"
      "Thick fog, we don't know what's out there but it's probably bad"
      "Black ice on the road, watch out for assholes"
      "Canadian winter, better move into a bunker until this blows over"

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    6. Re:Suggested levels by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 1

      You're driving your car. Here are your five threat levels:

      1) "Sha-na-na-na, sha-na-na-na-na-na, ..." (Cruising for burgers)
      2) "What an idiot!" (Where'd that bozo get a license?!)
      3) "WTF?" (Damn! Where'd that car come from?)
      4) "Oh, shit!" (Mother of God, please make the airbags work!)
      5) Wham! (preemptive strike without warning)

    7. Re:Suggested levels by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      Wait, isn't typing rm -rf also just a PEBKAC? The severity of PEBKACs varies greatly depending on what the keyboard is plugged into and who's sitting in the chair.

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    8. Re:Suggested levels by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      That really is the correct hierarchy of oh-fuck moments.

      PEBKACs? No problem, all good.
      Dead RAID drive? Hardly an inconvenience.
      rm -rf /? A serious short-term PITA, but solvable.
      Data centre flooded? Huge problem, mobilize the troops, hit the button for the red strobe lights and siren!
      Switching to Outlook? On purpose!? OHSHITOHSHITOHSHIT ABANDON SHIP!!!!!

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    9. Re:Suggested levels by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So which one corresponds to the old yellow - Something somewhere may happen.

    10. Re:Suggested levels by dkf · · Score: 1

      "Pant-shitting"

      Ah, Brown Alert. I think we'll be keeping that one...

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    11. Re:Suggested levels by mercurywoodrose · · Score: 1

      um, you forgot the true top level threat designator:

      -"My mom is evicting me from the basement"

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  9. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by MBCook · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's Blakley's Law:

    "Every public alert system's status indicator rises until it reaches its disaster imminent setting and remains at that setting until it is retired from service."

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  10. I think we should use textures... by Assmasher · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...as threat indicators, I mean come on, how cool would it be to hear "*ding**dong*The Department of Homeland Security has deemed the current threat level to be 'Tapioca'"

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    1. Re:I think we should use textures... by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      That's a good idea in theory but I imagine the general population would deem the current threat level to be "Bullshit". ;)

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  11. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

    Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Alert

    Yes, this is the problem.

    The last time flew into Denver from Canada, they kept saying over the loudspeaker in the airport that we were at Threat Level Orange. I assumed this was something new and that I should brace for even worse security.

    When I asked my US counterparts what was up, they basically said the same thing ... they've been at Threat Level Orange (it sounds much more official with the caps) for most of the last decade, and that they've stopped listening to it -- pretty much the whole country. In fact, they joked about it because it had ceased to be meaningful in any way. It seems to have become a perpetual state from which nobody will ever be moved. I fear, as you say, they would never allow us to go back to normal, because they'd have to give up their new-found control.

    We have always been at war with Oceana (or is that us? I get so confused).

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  12. that's it for alert level monitoring by formfeed · · Score: 1

    Oh Great!

    For years, I looked at these home-built alert level gadgets and finally decided to build one myself.

    -And the moment I buy a string of orange Halloween LED-lights, they decide to drop the color level system

  13. This is a sudden outbreak of common sense! by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

    Replace the system with nothing. General description of threat is meaningless and does nothing but frightens the public.

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    Be yourself no matter what they say
  14. The new system by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    Level 0: "Friendly pat" - no terror threat. Only theoretical, as we will never see this level.
    Level 1: "First Knuckle" - be afraid citizen, but only a little, as the DHS will protect you. Now, cough, please.
    Level 2: "Middle Finger" - citizen, we are going to have to "set aside" your rights for a bit. I hope you aren't allergic to latex.
    Level 3: "Two in the stink" - prole, you will comply, for the good of the country.
    Level 4: "Fist" - your papers are not in order. You vill follow us to the back room.
    Level 5: "total(itarian) domination" - What searches? There are no searches! You have committed thoughcrime and wordcrime. Big Brother Loves You, and wants you to be better, and will re-educate you.

    1. Re:The new system by yoder · · Score: 1

      Yup, level 4, but what does that really say about us?

      My guess is we are too far gone to actually be able to fix this. We have only one direction to go.

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    2. Re:The new system by Magada · · Score: 1

      Fixing at this point in time is not required nor indeed desirable. Bend over and be taught the value of democracy and the rule of law. Your people got them for free when your state was established and have been treating them as if they had no value ever since.

      Incidentally, one of the things that really soured the French monarchy for most people (including noblemen and the wealthy bourgeois!) was the advent of the "lettre de cachet". It took them about 400 years to get sufficiently pissed off about it to actually do something.

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  15. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by mrsquid0 · · Score: 1

    > Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Alert

    I think that a more appropriate term is Scare Level Orange.

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  16. Calibration time. by Apuleius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yesterday most of the TSA's whole boddy scanners were idled, and very few passengers were asked to go through them. This way the TSA was able to claim that only a small number of people opted out (since only a small number of people were made to choose between getting pornscanned or gateraped.)

    So apparently, the threat of bad PR and long lines from National Opt Out Day was a bigger threat than Al Qaeda. That is a more informative datum than the color code.

    So clearly, people should chill the fuck out, we are not under a great thread, and it's time to quit pornscanning and fear mongering.

    And also, it's time to change the thread scale from the color code to a scale of bitchiness, i.e. how bitchy do you have to be to be considered a bigger concern than Al Qaeda. Yesterday was clearly around a 2 out of 10 (i.e. "Meh") on any bitchiness scale. Even a slight level of bitchiness was enough to be a bigger concern than Al Qaeda. If Osama and his guys get some respite from dodging the Hellfire missiles and plan an actual attack, the level will rise all the way to 10/10 ("Reno 911").

    Howzat?

  17. The problem was by countertrolling · · Score: 1

    It always looked too much like this

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  18. Obligatory by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    They were probably tired of switching light bulbs whenever they were going from blue alert to red alert.

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  19. The most appropriate change by poptones · · Score: 1

    Replace the entire DHS with nothing. While we're at it, let's demolish the ICE black helicopter corps and every other federal domestic paramilitary department of ritual abuse.

  20. Poorly-constructed joke by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't we just re-use the big DefCon displays from Wargames?

    While I realize that the submitter was just cracking a joke, it's actually pretty lame on an important level (...probably on some unimportant ones, too, but I digress).

    The DEFCON (Defence Readiness Condition) system is in many ways the antithesis to the obscure TSA color-coded alerts. DEFCON assigns its lowest level (5) to the 'normal' state of preparedness -- none of this nonsense with a perpetual orange alert; if something is usual practice then that's the lowest condition.

    Under DEFCON rules (or the terorrism-related FPCON rules), members of the military have specific, clearly delineated responsibilities and tasks. There is a firm grasp of the meaning and intent of each condition. In contrast, telling civilians they're facing threat level Orange (or Yellow, or Red) doesn't mean anything. We don't know what to do differently - if anything - and we don't know what might happen, or how to respond, or when the condition might be returned to normal.

    Of course, I also recognize that my message header could serve as an apt description of the whole color-coded threat warning system....

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  21. Color Code by steelscalp · · Score: 1

    Today's threat level is PUMPKIN.

  22. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ok then, here's my public status indicator: #FFFFFF

    That is all.

  23. Inevitability by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    It's hard to feel a sense of emergency when the threat level has been stuck on the same level for years.

  24. Sunkist asked them to drop the color-coded alerts by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Sunkist sales were down. Nobody was buying oranges anymore, and lemon sales were stagnating too.

  25. Not my problem... by Burning+Plastic · · Score: 1

    I have a sanitation droid to do it for me...

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  26. Nice! by lennier1 · · Score: 1

    One less toy for politicians to play bullshit bingo with whenever federal elections are around the corner.
    Back in the day the Bush administration simply took the whole thing too far.

  27. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by orangesquid · · Score: 1

    See, I liked the color system! You could combine it with other color codes--like, if Code Puce (puce is a reddish-brown) was declared, it meant that terrorists flinging poo was an imminent threat. ;)

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  28. Purpose of the color coded alert system by jms · · Score: 1

    The best explanation of the purpose of the color system I have heard is as follows. Potential suicide bombers are, by definition, not afraid of death, because they believe that their murder/suicide will bring them paradise. They are, however, terrified of being captured. This would mean an ignominous death in a jail cell of old age, and they would be denied their afterlife reward. As a result, AQ is said to be extremely skittish. If AQ believes that a plan has been exposed, they will scuttle the plan and go into hiding, sometimes for years.

    The color system was designed to work in conjunction with the sort of intelligence we were getting -- where we knew from traffic analysis that an attack was likely about to be executed, but did not know the specifics. The idea was that the color level would be maintained at yellow, but when U.S. intelligence felt that an attack was imminent, but had no specifics, they would make a public announcement and raise the color level. This would, it was hoped, spook AQ enough for them to postpone or cancel the attack. Then, of course, there would be no attack, and the talk show hosts would mercilessly mock the government officials, who would have to console themselves with the knowledge that they had possibly saved hundreds or thousands of American lives, but not really knowing for sure.

    The article gives no indication that the current Homeland Security understands the actual purpose of the system. They seem to be dismantling it for no other reason than that being mocked by the media rubs them the wrong way. I certainly hope that there are no more successful AQ attacks, but it is sobering to realize that the U.S. government is dismantling what may well be a very well functioning part of our national defense system because they find using it to be embarrassing.

    1. Re:Purpose of the color coded alert system by Reapman · · Score: 1

      Sooo by having a threat level ALWAYS IN THE SAME COLOR is magically keeping the baddies away? How exactlly did the current threat level stop any of the attempts we know about? After the incident last year around Christmas I believe it went up, but it was AFTER the fact.

      The color system in theory may have worked if it was used properly, but it wasn't. As the summary said, keeping it at the same threat level for 4 years is a joke. If I hear that we're at orange alert that should MEAN something.

    2. Re:Purpose of the color coded alert system by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      This would, it was hoped, spook AQ enough for them to postpone or cancel the attack.

      On the other hand, this could backfire: if AQ start planning their attack, and the color-level didn't change, AQ would be assured that their plan was undetected, and would be encouraged to proceed.

      But as the other poster noted, it's all academic anyway, since the level was never changed from orange.

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    3. Re:Purpose of the color coded alert system by sjames · · Score: 1

      Since it hasn't changed in years now and there still haven't been any terrorist attacks, it is apparently not needed at all.

      Of course, at best it will never be better proven than the tiger repelling rock.

  29. Re:Sunkist asked them to drop the color-coded aler by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Sunkist [sunkist.com] sales were down. Nobody was buying oranges anymore, and lemon sales were stagnating too.

    And apparently nobody remembers what a lime even looks like. ;-)

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  30. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

    Yet everyone that has an IQ over 100 can see the 'terror threat level' is total bullshit... It's the other 80% of the population under 100 that is too stupid to realize these facts.

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  31. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    they joked about it because it had ceased to be meaningful in any way

    In order to cease, you need to start first.

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  32. Re:Sunkist asked them to drop the color-coded aler by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    I'm Canadian. I thought USA homeland security only used yellow, orange and red.

  33. In other news : Alerts will be colored chickens by unity100 · · Score: 1

    DHS will now release colored chickens to broadcast level of terror alerts. Citizens are encouraged to take the below actions depending on what color chicken you see running around in their neighborhood :

    - Yellow colored chickens : Start looking at the minorities in your neighborhood suspiciously and irritatingly

    - Orange colored chickens : Start moaning about good old days in doorsteps with your neighbors, and comment that "Good old {Insert-conservative-dead-president} would not let these damn {Insert-preferred-minority-to-rail-against}s run around prancing like {Insert-derogatory-irrelevant-adjective}s in our neighborhood like that" and spew in a minority house direction on the ground.

    - Red colored chickens : Duck and cover. Or, alternatively, start treating the chicken as your long lost grand grandfather and change your name to "Doggone".

    - Purple colored chicken : Youre already in planet Mars.

    1. Re:In other news : Alerts will be colored chickens by lennier1 · · Score: 1

      At which stage do we have to prepare for Radscorpions?

    2. Re:In other news : Alerts will be colored chickens by unity100 · · Score: 1

      if you reach the stage of donning a scantily clad leather armor as your everyday clothes. that will be way past the level of calling yourself 'Doggone' and starting to go around with a chicken under your left arm as your grand grand father.

  34. Re:Sunkist asked them to drop the color-coded aler by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    I'm Canadian. I thought USA homeland security only used yellow, orange and red.

    As am I. Green is the hypothetical color we'll never see again -- think September 10, 2001.

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  35. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by bunratty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Get serious. There's a doubleplusgood reason we've always been at war with Eurasia.

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  36. wrong suggestion by pz · · Score: 1

    Can't we just re-use the big DefCon displays from Wargames?

    How about we have no indicator whatsoever? I know, it's a crazy, wild idea. Just hold on a sec and follow along. I know, I know, it's crazy, but hear me out. The current color-coded threat level has been derided as useless by the public. The government employees themselves don't pay attention to it. Raising the threat any higher means Bad Things Coming, and we can't lower it, for fear of the public and officials getting complacent. Homeland security is doing nothing because it's hands are tied, and the indicator didn't serve much purpose in the first place.

    Maybe, just maybe, I know it's crazy-talk, we should have no indicator at all.

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  37. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    See, I liked the color system [about.com]!

    That's actually fairly interesting. Assuming it's 100% legit, under condition green:

    You Should:

            * Obtain a copy of Terrorism: Preparing for the Unexpected from your local Red Cross.
            * Develop a personal disaster plan and disaster supply kit using that brochure
            * Examine volunteer opportunities in your community; choose and agency to volunteer with and receive initial training
            * Take a Red Cross CPR/AED and first aid course

    So, even under the best of all possible conditions, you should get getting pamphlets which will teach you to be paranoid and vigilant about hypothetical things for which there is no apparent risk.

    So, there simply is expected to be a level of mostly contained background panic even at the best of times.

    Wow. Just F'ing wow!!

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  38. It will always be vague. by mikaelwbergene · · Score: 1

    It's not like a less vague system makes anything less vague since the public doesn't have the information the government does. And it all seems to come down to a matter of chance in the end.

    Take the UK system for example:

    Critical - an attack is expected imminently

    Severe - an attack is highly likely

    Substantial - an attack is a strong possibility

    Moderate - an attack is possible, but not likely

    Low - an attack is unlikely

  39. Colours should have meaning by onkelonkel · · Score: 1

    The Colours should have immediately obvious meanings.

    For Example: Threat level Pink - LGBT Terrorist attacks imminent. Threat level Amber - we are being attacked by missing children. Threat level Plaid - Scottish Terrorists are about to play bagpipes at us.

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  40. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What's humorous is that the avian flu, which this guy cites, is actually down to a 3, from a 5 when his post was written.

  41. It was always useless by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    The "alert level" was Orange August 2006 until now. It was just an excuse to implement far-reaching "security" measures to strip people of their freedom in exchange for the illusion of security.

    The odds of dying from cancer caused by the X-ray backscatter systems are higher than the odds of being killed by a terrorist on a flight. I'd rather take my chances with the terrorists.

  42. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by cetialphav · · Score: 1

    It's the other 80% of the population under 100 that is too stupid to realize these facts.

    This isn't about intelligence, though. It is about fear. Fear is an emotional state and not tied at all to intelligence. There are lots of very intelligent people who know the same facts that we do, and are still scared of a terrorist attack because they have visions of planes flying into buildings. Is it irrational? Sure. But fear has nothing to do with rationality because it is an emotional response. People will go for anything that makes them feel less afraid. Intrusive searches and security levels tend to make people feel safe even when those same people know that these things are mostly pointless.

  43. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

    Y'know, I realize you're trying to be facetious, but by definition, 50% of the population has an IQ under 100.

    Of course, IQ is a meaningless number as it is. It really doesn't mean anything when expressed as a number like that. It *could* have some meaning when expressed as +/- standard deviations (though it still isn't an accurate measure of your ability to actually use that knowledge), but that'll never happen, because that would require that the population as a whole have at least a basic understanding of statistics.

    On topic, there isn't really much point in having a terror threat level. The old Defcon system (which is still in use) was much more meaningful, because it expressed the state of readiness of the military to go to total war... the problem is, we've been at war for the better part of the last decade. Actual combat. So that number wouldn't change either: we'd be at Defcon 2, and the only way to reach Defcon 1 would be if a nuclear exchange started. For the general population, it'd become yet another completely meaningless number.

    Le sigh. We live in interesting times.

  44. Re:Sunkist asked them to drop the color-coded aler by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

    I'm Canadian. I thought USA homeland security only used yellow, orange and red.

    As am I. Green is the hypothetical color we'll never see again -- think September 10, 2001.

    You wouldn't have seen green back then anyway, or any other color for that matter, the color-coding system was introduced March 11, 2002; nobody thought it was necessary before that point.

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  45. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by advocate_one · · Score: 1
    We had this in the UK with the Bikini Alert codes... technically we should have remained at Amber for very long periods, but the overhead required in continuously mounting armed guards and vehicle searches on our bases was getting rather tiresome, so they introduced Bikini Black Aalpha which allowed them to drop to the new state of "higher than Black" but not have to perform all the extra checks required by Amber... we still performed a lot of checks, but on a random basis instead of having to search every vehicle and also were able to drop down to unarmed guards with a small armed reserve (provided by our normal military police) instead of everybody on guard having to be armed.

    Bruce Schneier had a few thoughts a while back when Britain "adopted" the same threat levels to match America

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  46. Department of Stupid Names by SnowDog74 · · Score: 1

    Now can we work on that awkward name which sounds a little too much like "Department of Fatherland Security"? How about Domestic Security Service or Dept. of Domestic Security? Or State Security Department? "Homeland" sounds far too much like something George Bush thought of while he was playing with his Al Qaeda and G.I. Joe figurines.

    1. Re:Department of Stupid Names by Magada · · Score: 1

      Yes yes! State Security! Then you can give them the coolest badges ever!

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  47. Level Brown by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    I think the entire thing is off base because it does not relate to real life in any meaningful way.

    Call something: level Brown and people will understand - Brown is when you shit yourself.

    Level Yellow is when you piss yourself.

    Level Blue - that's when you have no air left and will die from suffocation.

    Etc. Things like that.

  48. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by arivanov · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Stop winging.

    At "green" condition in the days when I was living in Brezhnev's Soviet Union at the age of 10 (year 4 in their school system) I was supposed to know all the first aid stuff, be able to disassemble an AK47, service it and reassemble it in under 3 minutes, know how to use a gas mask, shoot at least 70+ score (1-10 additive, 10 shots) with a sport .22 or an air rifle as well as know all civil defence codes. I left around that time, however based on what I was told by my ex-classmates it actually got worse during Andropov's days with kids at the age of 12-13 being trained to use AK and PK for real and drills in schools.

    The modern western world has not seen what a "forever war" means just yet. It has a long way to go to that and even longer to get to the Stalin's "war against the Trust" of the 1930-es.

    It also is yet to see the real effect on the population of "not giving a f*ck". We are still far off from the days of "Brezhnev's despair". We are getting there though. It looks like some of the candidates to rule the biggest powers of the western world are demonstrating his educational level and IQ.

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  49. Ron White knew how to deal with this. by icannotthinkofaname · · Score: 1

    A great (or at least, silly) man once said that if he were to replace the colored threat level system, he would do it with only two levels:

    • Go find a helmet
    • Put on the damn helmet

    And now, people know what to do when the threat level is elevated.

    Also, they call him "Tater Salad."

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  50. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by xaxa · · Score: 1

    The last time flew into Denver from Canada, they kept saying over the loudspeaker in the airport that we were at Threat Level Orange. I assumed this was something new and that I should brace for even worse security.

    <voice accent="british" type="male robotic overlo^W^H">
    "May I have your attention please. Please do not leave cases or parcels unattended anywhere on the station. Any unattended articles are likely to be removed without warning."

    "Please do not leave cases or parcels unattended anywhere on the station. Any unattended articles are likely to be removed and may be destroyed by the security services."
    </voice>

    <voice accent="british" type="female robotic mistress">
    "Please keep your belongings with you at all times. Unattended articles may cause a delay to your service."
    </voice>

    I probably first heard this before my first birthday, and I've heard it most times I've waited more than five minutes for a train ever since. I've never left my luggage unattended though...

  51. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    when I was living in Brezhnev's Soviet Union at the age of 10

    Ummm .... in Soviet Russia ... er ... ummm ... WTF?

    God, I hope this isn't what we all have to look forward to. Why do I feel an urge to go down a bottle of vodka all of a sudden?

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  52. The real purpose of the colors by Trerro · · Score: 1

    The actual point of the colors were to make sure that the lowest 2 would never be used. It was basically a constant "Everyone, live in fear!" sign. It was ignored and/or mocked by the public because pretty much everyone realized this. I can't find the graph, but someone charted the 8 years of Bush's approval rating, with the color chart on the background of graph, and it matches up almost perfectly, to the surprise of basically no one.

    I'd be great if this were a 1-party thing, since then we could simply vote for the other guys, but that simply isn't the case. The Patriot Act passed with nearly unanimous approval, and while many predicted a gradual dropping of its measures under Obama, that simply hasn't happened... indeed, it's only gotten worse.

    Unfortunately, while I'd love to say them finally axing this system is a sign that they realize a rational response instead of a fear-based one is what we need, I think they've simply decided that the TSA does a far more effective job of keeping everyone in fear that a silly color chart ever could. I don't know a single person that stopped flying due to terrorism. People recognized that while odds of dying to terrorists have gone up *slightly*, it's a trivial risk, much like swimming in the ocean may get you attacked by a shark, but almost certainly won't.

    On the other hand, quite a few people have stopped flying because they don't want the choice of unnecessary radiation exposure or sexual assault to get on a plane. The TSA has accomplished what the terrorists only wish they could.

    That's not to say we shouldn't be keeping an eye on terrorist organizations, and disrupting them when we can, but that requires actual intelligence work. The TSA is pure security theater.

  53. Geeks already solved this, long ago by earlymon · · Score: 1

    And - it's right here:

    http://www.geekandproud.net/terror/

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  54. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Jeremi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Any lower level alert will never be used because by design the war on terror is a perpetual war . And ending the crisis would constitute the government surrendering power back to the people, which they don't want to do.

    Well, that's the obligatory cynical take on it. The more obvious reason is: if and when the next terror attack occurs, whomever was responsible for lowering the alert status most recently would inevitably be sacked for "taking their eye off the ball". And nobody wants to be the one holding that hot potato.

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  55. Re:The Truth Feminizm Hates by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 1

    The "friend zone" is the other excused by whiners who can't get laid in addition to the "friend zone".

    Bah in addition to the "nice guy myth"

  56. Eight years by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It takes eight years of public mockery for the TSA to drop a useless system. Not hate, mockery.

    So drop the hate and up the mockery for the rapey-scan machines, and you might be able to fly in or out of the US without the TSA looking at or touching your private parts by 2018!

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    1. Re:Eight years by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      the point is exactly that... it NEVER GOES TO GREEN or blue.

      Of course, to do this they would have to admit we were "secure" which would mean it's time to wind down the wars and making talk of scaling back military and para-military operations. That's bad for the brand new cabinet-level agency!

      By not REDUCING the level, it makes the current level a joke, everybody knows it. Sure, in the land of "Jack Bauer" there is a threat every single day... but with 300 Million people the pure odds of killing even 100 people at once are staggering as to be pure chance.

    2. Re:Eight years by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      But they were going to start using my favorite color "Puce"

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  57. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    I think the "nuclear apocalypse clock" or whatever it's called has moved back and forth quite a bit...although always close to the highest setting.

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  58. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1
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  59. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by thasmudyan · · Score: 1

    This isn't about intelligence, though. It is about fear. Fear is an emotional state and not tied at all to intelligence.

    It may not be about intelligence, but it certainly is all about stupidity and ignorance - traits that enhance a person's susceptibility to self-destructive fear and political manipulation.

  60. Re:Lies and damned lies by daem0n1x · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, how will they manage to divert attention every time a political scandal happens in the US or UK?

  61. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    As usual, Schneier a voice of sanity in a sea of insanity w/r/t such issues.

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  62. Re:Lies and damned lies by Cylix · · Score: 1

    Simple, we go to Def Con 5!

    That has some weight to it and it was used in War Games.

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  63. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    In fact, they joked about it because it had ceased to be meaningful in any way.

    I was never quite clear what the I was supposed to do with the threat level information anyway.

    "Threat level orange? Well then I'm going to report the guy with a stick of dynamite in his back pocket. Were it threat level green, I'd just assume he was just being prepared for some emergency demolition."

  64. FUCKING A YES! by sootman · · Score: 1

    I absolutely HATE being in Orlando International Airport and hearing a steady drone of how the current threat level is "orange." It's been that way for YEARS which proves two things: 1) it's completely inaccurate and 2) the creators never read The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

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  65. Re:Lies and damned lies by winwar · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Simple, we go to Def Con 5!"

    We already are at DefCon 5.

    Please turn in your Geek card now.

  66. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by amRadioHed · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually that's not funny if you read the post. He is contrasting the WHO flu warnings which actually work to the public alert systems like the DHS color alerts which don't. That the avian flu warning has gone down since his post while the DHS alert is still at orange (for flights) backs up his point exactly.

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  67. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Y'know, I realize you're trying to be facetious, but by definition, 50% of the population has an IQ under 100.

    ...at the time the tests were last normalized. If American's are getting dumber at a fast enough rate his numbers could very well be correct.

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  68. I'm sure my airport experience will change now ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    After all, airports have been at code orange permanently ever since the code system was introduced. Yet for some reason every airport in the US plays the same announcement that is worded to make it sound as if the TSA just changed it to Orange this morning. Hell, I've heard that announcement so many times I can usually recite it from memory ... I guess we are retiring this system because the new machines at the airport now make us all dramatically safer from terrorist threat?

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  69. Ridiculous, but... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    The "threat level orange" was getting pretty ridiculous, and political chances of the "threat level" ever returning to "green" or even "yellow" seemed awfully remote.

    Technically, it was only the airports in the US that were permanently frozen at "threat level orange". Of course, most people never heard the threat level announced anywhere else, so they never realized that the threat level for the rest of the country was indeed variable.

    I point this out not to defend the system - which sucks beyond any potential defense - but rather because I was myself surprised when I found this out.

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  70. No Emergency Broadcast System Alert 9/11/2001 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I also note that on 9/11/2001 there were no Emergency Broadcast System alerts issued, even in NYC, or in DC, as both the Pentagon and the World Trade Center were violently attacked. Despite several generations of Americans being trained that such an attack would be followed by such an alert, "in the event of an actual emergency".

    I wonder if those nuke warheads even work.

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    1. Re:No Emergency Broadcast System Alert 9/11/2001 by dargaud · · Score: 1

      I wonder if those nuke warheads even work.

      Better wish that they don't...

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  71. A Humble Suggestion by matunos · · Score: 1

    They should replace the color alert system with a list of personal intrusions the TSA will visit upon airline passengers' bodies. Yellow = junk grab; orange = strip search; red = body cavity search.

  72. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Anynomous+Coward · · Score: 1

    I thought that the definition was that 50% of the population has an IQ under 100. That's of Scare Level Orange all by itself.

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  73. Color Coding by SilentChasm · · Score: 1
    I'm glad they have finally done away with it. It wasn't that useful because it was always elevated.

    That being said it does seem to have had an impact on some things.

    Take Final Fantasy XIII for instance (copied from TVTropes):

    Colour Coded For Your Inconvenience: The Palamecia's colored security codes in Chapter 9 don't make any sense. First an intruder alert causes Code Red, which later escalates to Code Green, and after the prisoners escape to Code Purple. Hope wonders aloud what the heck it all means, and then it's completely lampshaded when Colonel Nabaat starts having her epic Villainous Breakdown, shouting "This means we have a Code Blue! Or maybe Code Yellow. Or maybe Code Orange. If it was Code Orange that would mean...?" But then Primarch Dysley puts an end to it and remarks that "Desperate times demand flexibility: [beat] Code White!"

  74. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Lanteran · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oceana is the Americas, Australia, GB and shifting territory around the equator. Eurasia is- Eurasia minus china, plus the shifting territory. Eastasia is china, japan, the pacific that's not oceana and shifting territories.

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  75. [oblig. Red Dwarf quote] "Step up to red alert!" by grolschie · · Score: 1

    "Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb."

  76. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Y'know, I realize you're trying to be facetious, but by definition, 50% of the population has an IQ under 100.

    Because IQ score was originally based on a relative measure, used to compare the intelligence of people statistically against average intelligence of the population.

    If the intelligence of the public as a whole went down, and the country became an Idiocracy, your IQ could go up without you getting smarter, if the IQ test taker score sampling and percentiles are recomputed, because of the lower average intelligence of the public.

    So there could be a false perception that older people are smarter, if their intelligence just stayed the same, but massive numbers of idiots were born

  77. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by shugah · · Score: 1

    Damn. I just used up my mod points on the Android Mind Control article.

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  78. Re:5 by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Can we go to 11?

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  79. No more colour-coded alerts. by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

    Does that mean they're gonna be grayscale alerts now ?

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  80. Poor design and decision by MistrBlank · · Score: 1

    It was a not well thought out system that was really meant to make people think things had dropped in danger actually. The reality with all of the groups we've picked on in the last couple years, we should have always been on the brink.

    It was just an effort to make the populous show the government was at least doing something, but they never intended to change the danger level.

  81. Yet another color blind manager. by niftymitch · · Score: 1

    They are switching to a grope and irradiation factor rating.

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  82. Re:Obsolete because we will always be at Orange Al by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

    Woohoo, it'll only be a matter of time before my IQ qualifies me for Mensa now because yes people are getting dumber and that was the point I was trying to make by equating 100 IQ with only 20% of the population.

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