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Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC

Canadian_Daemon writes "A phase of matter created moments after the Big Bang is thought to have been detected at the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland. 'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians, at the facility near Geneva, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced Friday."

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  1. This is the first time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And so a first post is appropriate!

  2. Yeah! by transfatfree · · Score: 1

    Go Canada!

  3. No Pun Intended? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahaha. Good one!

    1. Re:No Pun Intended? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modded -1?
      Someone obviously doesn't appreciate the humor of a "Striking" discovery at the Large Hadron Collider

  4. As a Canadian, I like to watch... by thomasdz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What a strange thing to say: "observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians"
    Does this mean the Canadians aren't team players or they weren't researchers (were they just tourists?)
    This Canadian wants to know!

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    1. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they are just saying that researchers, and Canadians, discovered something. The Canadian researchers names are Chuck and Duane. During conferences it customary to make a toast starting "Ladies and Gentlemen, and Chuck and Duane, ..."

    2. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The canadians were there, unfortunately they were clubbing seals and eating moose jerky while working on plans for heavy water moderated reactors for third world countries. I kid I kid... I think the comment was simply to emphasize the canadian angle as it was reported on CBC.

    3. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Gruturo · · Score: 1

      What a strange thing to say: "observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians"
      Does this mean the Canadians aren't team players or they weren't researchers (were they just tourists?)
      This Canadian wants to know!

      I think it has something to do with the initial line which says "Canadian_Daemon writes " :-)

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    4. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by funkatron · · Score: 1

      The report is from cbc.ca, a few of those c's probably stand for Canada. The "including Canadians" bit basically means "our country was involved" or "we helped" or similar.

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    5. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by phrostie · · Score: 1

      Canadians tend to be skeptics.

      They are always the first to wait up so they can catch santa claus coming down the chimney.

    6. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Having a Canadian on the team embraces a certain regional pride to calm insecurities of those Yanks.

    7. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by javajawa · · Score: 1

      Because researchers from TRIUMF (Canada's National Laboratory for Particle and Nuclear Physics) were involved... of course... so were researchers from Fermilab, and other institutions... but the article was submitted by a Canadian.

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    8. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course we're skeptics! Every year we hear about this crazy bastard flying around in a sleigh all night. Any sane Canuck knows that, during winter, you get your shit done during the two and a half hours of daylight in the afternoon. After that you stay the hell inside because its fucking cold! We just wanna meet the guy so we can tell him he's got everything ass backwards. He must be an American. ;)

    9. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by gilbert644 · · Score: 1

      It's just nationalism.

    10. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canadians can't spell?

      Shouldn't that be CNLPNP?

    11. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by JustOK · · Score: 0, Troll

      canadian boredcorping casteration

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    12. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by tomhudson · · Score: 1, Informative
      Don't be such a wimp. Even at -30, the dogs have to be walked for half an hour first thing in the morning before work and again in the evening after work.

      As long as it's not windy, I don't care. That's what boots, coats, hats, sweaters, gloves, etc., are made for.

      Not warm enough? Put on another layer and MOVE AROUND! You'll warm up to it.

      Winter's not going to go away for a few months, so might as well enjoy it.

      -- Barbie

    13. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      Tri-University Meson Facility.

    14. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1

      Were they named after this cheesy but proficient Canadian band? Now someone in Canada needs to build a collider called the Relativistic Electron Smashing Hammer, and we'd really be rocking!

    15. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by JamesP · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm thinking that except if they actually injected Canadians into the LHC pipes and then collided them at high speed, this whole Canadian bias of the news is unjustified.

      IT'S A CANADIAN CONSPIRACY

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    16. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      But it's Canadian nationalism. Isn't that a bit like being proud to be a generic white guy as opposed to one of them ethnic white guys that nobody can tell isn't a generic white guy?

    17. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at the news source. It's a canadian news source. That's why you have that little bit of local commentary.

    18. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone else has pointed out that this is a Canadian news post. However, if you RTFA, part of what helped make this discovery was made by the Canadians, which would add to the validity of including it (not that everyone else didn't add stuff that attributed to this discovery either). That is the forward calorimeter.

      I would paste it, but Chrome isn't letting me paste into this box for whatever stupid reason.

    19. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by rudy_wayne · · Score: 1

      Large Hardon Collider

    20. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

      Canadians tend to be skeptics.

      Oh, I don't know about that.

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    21. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by PPH · · Score: 1

      Canada was busy watching its back side from 2000 to 2008, what with all the weird goings-on down there. Now they are free to turn their attention to something more constructive.

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    22. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you run a lot of sites.. transboutique, slushdot, xmlsucks---are there more? *lol*
      [posting anon since this is off-topic -- email me with reply if you like: 0.707107 at gmail dot com]
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    23. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's like hockey?

    24. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by javajawa · · Score: 1

      TRIUMF is the name of the facility; however, I did not fail to spell anything wrong and TRIUMF is not an acronym for anything (anymore).

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    25. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's like Canada has been America's hat for so long, they don't really get the recognition they deserve. This tribit was just trying to correct that a little.

    26. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Sulphur · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the comment was simply to emphasize the canadian angle as it was reported on CBC.

      Not obtuse or acute, its just right.

    27. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      TRIUMF is the name of the facility; however, I did not fail to spell anything wrong and TRIUMF is not an acronym for anything (anymore).

      One of the letters graduated?

    28. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by eclectro · · Score: 1

      The Canadians supplied the bacon.

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    29. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Khyber · · Score: 1

      CNLPNP? Don't you mean CL4PTRP?

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    30. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Heed00 · · Score: 1

      So it's like hockey?

      Only slower.

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    31. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by atheistmonk · · Score: 1

      He's clearly an Australian in that case. tak tak tak tak tak thnnka tak tak thunk tal thin kl

    32. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      The article was posted on a Canadian website. The fact that Canadians were involved would be of immediate interest to their readers.

    33. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, recently on Canadian TV there has been a ton of self-promotion. Is this another stupid "Canadian content" mandate by the CRTC? Who knows, but it comes off as seeming like Canada has an identity crisis or something, like we have to be aware and proud all of a sudden. The worst part is that most of that "in your face Canada" stuff just seems to perpetuate or create stereotypes. That kind of thing is a catalyst for both stupidity and arrogance. It's pretty ridiculous, I hope nobody pays attention. The world is trying to come closer together, and drawing these lines and pointing out borders where none need to be pointed out just makes people separate instead of being able to come together and be proud of ourselves as a human race.

    34. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Wynter+Stark · · Score: 1
      > Winter's not going to go away for a few months, so might as well enjoy it.

      I hope I'm going to be around for more than a few months.

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    35. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by crispytwo · · Score: 1

      Most likely is that the Canadian scientists involved are not allowed to talk about anything they are doing, ( gag order ), especially this new stuff. But if one can get the information from other sources, the CBC can let the Canadians know that Canadians are involved in science still, although we're not allowed to talk about that either.

    36. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      You caught that but missed "European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN)"?

      Wow.

      Obviously something else is going on here. Duh.

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    37. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Dabido · · Score: 1

      Actually, Saint Nic was originally from Ephesus, where it's very hot usually. He obviously hasn't adapted to the climate ... then again, maybe he's the person behind all this climate change.

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    38. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Deefburger · · Score: 1

      Canadian's were there with their Tim Horton's Mugs and Leafs T-shirts. Go Canada! Eh!

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  5. Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm glad the OP mentioned that Canadians had a hand in this. Otherwise I would have assumed they didn't.

    1. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, that was really important. I would not have been able to even make sense of what was discovered in that Swiss/French collider without the information about the Canadian input. It wasn't just a quark-gluon plasma; it was a quark-gluon plasma that Canadians had something to do with! That's totally more revolutionary!

    2. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by mrops · · Score: 1

      It seems funny the way they have said "including Canadians", however the link is to a Canadian publication, primarily intended for Canadian readers.

      Just FYI

    3. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the lazy copy-paster couldn't cut off that "including Canadians" bit, why?

      Oh yeah, I forgot, he's lazy. Or he has national pride. Long live stupid tribalist mentalities, so some person(s) who was/were born in a place that is defined as to be the same city/state/country of yours did something great, why the fuck does that make you feel proud?

    4. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by IrquiM · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can't make a Gluon without a Canadian This is why all have failed previously!

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    5. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 0, Troll

      It's worse in TFA, actually. I don't know about other countries, but in the American and British stuff I read, you just don't see this kind of bullshit. Seriously, four separate mentions of Canada in that tiny article, plus a sidebar about what Canada has been working on.

      I mean, really? Does Canada really have that small an ego? When was the last time an American publication had to remind us that they were talking to Americans who work on the LHC, that Americans helped build it, etc?

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  6. Quark Glue-ons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    A Ferengi with a Glue-on observed moments after the big bang?

    Its like horrible geek porn. I must retreat to the relative artistic successes of the Star Wars Christmas Special.

    1. Re:Quark Glue-ons by phrostie · · Score: 3, Funny

      +1 funny

    2. Re:Quark Glue-ons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 more :)

    3. Re:Quark Glue-ons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He meant the grand parent you fools.

  7. Eh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Canadian observes quark-gluon plasma, then immediately apologizes.

  8. Including Canadians, and... by chebucto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.

    From TFA:

    Canadians make up more than 150 of the researchers involved in ATLAS.

    From Wiki:

    The project is led by Fabiola Gianotti and involves roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries.

    So.. how about we say 'Horray for people!' or something like that.

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    1. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you should have seen Canadian high schools in the 80's: "we invented the world, eh"

      They couldn't get away with the propaganda now thanks to the interweb but it is not for lack of trying.

    2. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Why exactly is this so impressive for us?

      Congratulations though, of course. Cool stuff.

    3. Re:Including Canadians, and... by jamesh · · Score: 2, Funny

      No I think it's reasonable to point it out explicitly. If they had just said "Observed by a team of researchers", you would fairly quickly assume that there wouldn't be any Canadians in that team, for obvious reasons.

      Just like if a blind guy had ascended Mount Everest, the news article would read "A team of mountaineers, including a blind guy, ...".

    4. Re:Including Canadians, and... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.

      Well, as I understand it, the Canadians were mainly in the facility to get warm.

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    5. Re:Including Canadians, and... by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Informative

      1. Quark gluon plasmas are rare in Switzerland
      2. Canadians are rare in Switzerland

      3. Therefore, anything related to quark gluon plasmas is intrinsically Canadian in nature

      this is all perfectly logical

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    6. Re:Including Canadians, and... by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 1

      When you fear them...

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    7. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hooray for the multinational Pegasus Galaxy expedition!

    8. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gets better--

      As it turns out, Canadians, striking evidence of a quark-gluon plasma, have been observed by a team of researchers at a facility near Geneva!

    9. Re:Including Canadians, and... by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

      It was a misquote:

        'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, at the facility near Geneva, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced Friday, however some of them were Canadians."

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    10. Re:Including Canadians, and... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.

      Yes, but Canadians are the "special sauce" in any recipe. In my next project, I am going to insist that it "includes Canadians." Hell, Cajuns are displaced Canadians, and the whole world knows how good their cooking is: The secret ingredient? Canadians!

      One of my cousins from Calgary sent me some seasoning, named "Bifteak de Montreal." It tastes fantastic, but I'm afraid to read what's in it . . .

      Uh, oh, whatever happened to the Montreal Expos . . . ?

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    11. Re:Including Canadians, and... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      The project is led by Fabiola Gianotti and involves roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries.

      As a young spud in one of my first big projects, the project manager kept dumping work one me. He told me two things: "In any big project, 5% of the people do 95% of the work." and "Work gravitates toward people who can do it."

      I thought that he was trying to be funny, but now that I have 25+ years under my belt . . . I know better.

      So how many of those "roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries" are actually doing any work? Their conference calls must be a hoot and a half, and last a couple of weeks.

      Another manager explained to me the difference of being "involved" in a project, and being "committed." "It's like a bacon and eggs breakfast . . . the hen was involved, the pig was committed."

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    12. Re:Including Canadians, and... by angus77 · · Score: 1

      Yeah---"We won World War One! Pierre Burton told us so!"

    13. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh, it the link goes to the CBC website so I'm not surprised they'd mention Canadians in the story.

    14. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or Hurray for Tiny black holes :)

    15. Re:Including Canadians, and... by asvravi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the warmer liquid helium will do wonders for the Canadian's cheeks..

    16. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you've hit the nail on the head. I work on CMS, the other large experiment at CERN and what you suggest is correct in almost every way.

    17. Re:Including Canadians, and... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 0, Redundant

      And if the article wanted to make the point that the Canadians are the ones who are "committed" and "actually doing any work", it could've said so, though I doubt they can back it up.

      Without that, I still don't see the point of saying "including Canadians" unless Canada has a serious ego problem.

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    18. Re:Including Canadians, and... by Raenex · · Score: 1

      (Posting anonymously because I fear those certain political groups)

      What do you think they're going to do, hunt you down based on your Slashdot pseudonym? Afraid of a few negative karma points? Don't be such a coward, silly rabbit.

    19. Re:Including Canadians, and... by drolli · · Score: 1

      That was just for safety. If something goes wrong.... "Blame Canada, blame Canada..."

  9. Canadians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So easy, even a Canadian can do it!

  10. Including Canadians by pipingguy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Well then, this makes the event all that more noteworthy, obviously.

    1. Re:Including Canadians by gaderael · · Score: 1

      Well, of course it was noteworthy. The quark-gluon plasma never would have been noticed if one of the Canadians hadn't dropped maple syrup in to the Collider.

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  11. Re:Offensive by BronsCon · · Score: 1, Funny

    What about my an idiot?

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  12. Quark-Gluon Plasma? by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have seen this quark-gluon plasma one other time. My, it has been a while. I never thought I'd see a resonance cascade, let alone create one. But there, at that point, we did it. At Black Mesa. We...unleashed...Gordon, you're alive! Thank God for that hazard suit. I'm afraid to move him and all our phones are out. Please get to the surface as soon as you can and let someone know we're stranded down here. You'll need me to access the retinal scanners. I'm sure the rest of the science team will gladly he$EOF

    1. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I have seen this quark-gluon plasma one other time. My, it has been a while. I never thought I'd see a resonance cascade, let alone create one. But there, at that point, we did it. At Black Mesa. We...unleashed...Gordon, you're alive! Thank God for that hazard suit. I'm afraid to move him and all our phones are out. Please get to the surface as soon as you can and let someone know we're stranded down here. You'll need me to access the retinal scanners. I'm sure the rest of the science team will gladly he$EOF

      Epic Post

  13. Flag should be a white cross on a red background by crovira · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why there's a red maple leaf there is beyond me.

    I'm a Canadian and like to toot our own horn but this was done by an international consortium in Geneva.

    C'mon guys. Get the story straight.

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  14. Schroedinger's Cat by mim · · Score: 1

    They were expecting this observation... http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/ardlouis/dissipative/Schrcat.html and although many applications are quite feasible, am only hoping that it is not able to be used for ill purposes.

  15. Re:Offensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please, sir, don't feed the trolls. He's pulling the "I'm a [PC offended party] and..." post to get people riled up. Don't feed the trolls.

  16. Re:Offensive by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    That's the problem with generalisations. They are all stupid.

    head explodes

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  17. Thanks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thanks, but it is actually an international effort with those of us in Canada working on ATLAS making up ~5% of the collaboration. For those with a more technical mind there is the actual paper which was accepted by PRL this morning (after being submitted yesterday!). To give you an idea of what the events actually look like you can go here. As you can see there are around 1,000 tracks in a typical event!

    1. Re:Thanks by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Everybody else WISHES! We were in charge! And we did all the critical thinking!

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    2. Re:Thanks by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

      Yawn.. and I say thanks as an American taxpayer that RHIC was first.. hopefully the eurocrats won't kill themselves if national lab gets the Higgs too.

    3. Re:Thanks by ieatcookies · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice work, hosers!

    4. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was wondering why the submitter included the part "including Canadians". What was that supposed to mean? Why was it there? Like, it's in Europe but someone from America was there too! Moronic submitter.

    5. Re:Thanks by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now if they would issue 64-bit jobs for Linux hosts on LHC@Home, I would totally help!

      -l /Still registered, haven't seen a work unit in YEARS

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    6. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's remarkable that half the paper's length is only for the names of the collaborators...

    7. Re:Thanks by Heed00 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Take off!

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    8. Re:Thanks by Heed00 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was wondering why the submitter included the part "including Canadians". What was that supposed to mean? Why was it there? Like, it's in Europe but someone from America was there too! Moronic submitter.

      Actually, its from the article source which is the CBC -- Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. It's just the local news agency pointing out that locals were involved in the experiment.

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    9. Re:Thanks by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      Wikipedia says:

      BOINC users who are considering joining this project should know that it only occasionally has work; the project is used for design and repair considerations related to the LHC. There are currently no plans to use the project to do computation on the data that will be collected by the LHC.

      That might explain it.

    10. Re:Thanks by sznupi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not exactly, I get (however small) new work units semi-regularly. Possibly in every month of this year there was something.

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    11. Re:Thanks by alexandre_ganso · · Score: 1

      Seti@home is also off for quite some time...

    12. Re:Thanks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now if they would issue 64-bit jobs for Linux hosts on LHC@Home, I would totally help!

      Actually you would probably not want to help for long! Analyzing data from an experiment is I/O intensive as well as CPU intensive plus the executables are very large and require ~2GB/core to run so they are not really a suitable scale for an @home project unfortunately.

    13. Re:Thanks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yawn.. and I say thanks as an American taxpayer that RHIC was first

      It's true that RHIC came before the LHC but the SPS and ISR came well before RHIC and none of these have really produced compelling evidence of a QGP. However don't worry - as an American taxpayer you also helped pay for the LHC, so thanks!

    14. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you are bitter enough to post this TWICE? Amazing.

    15. Re:Thanks by Deefburger · · Score: 1

      Think thought so.

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  18. It Must Be Pointed Out by soloport · · Score: 2, Funny

    More than three thousand died in the Twin Tower collapse that occurred 2001-11-9, including Canadians.
    Hundreds of thousands converged in South Africa for the World Cup opening ceremonies, including Canadians.
    Overwhelming amounts of aid have poured in to Haiti from around the globe, including Canadians.
    'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians.

    1. Re:It Must Be Pointed Out by jelizondo · · Score: 1

      You mean 'Canadians' as in northern gringos?

      Sorry to pull your leg, I live in México but according to our mutual neighbors, I live in Central America.

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    2. Re:It Must Be Pointed Out by angus77 · · Score: 1

      Like sex and violence, adding Canadians to the mix makes the story more interesting.

    3. Re:It Must Be Pointed Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as an american I always considered mexico part of north america

  19. Re:Help me guyise by convolvatron · · Score: 0, Redundant

    lorazepam

  20. second city attitude. by mevets · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is so sad. It is a place of contrasts, the sally-fields-like desperation for acknowledgement against the smugness of not being Americans (even though nobody else can tell).

    1. Re:second city attitude. by Raenex · · Score: 1

      the smugness of not being Americans (even though nobody else can tell)

      It's true. Whenever I find a find out a famous person is from Canada it's always a mild surprise.

  21. Canadaaa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What, Canada Appreciation Day again? Call the WGA...

  22. Am I missing something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soooo... is there anything significant about the evidence for a quark-gluon plasma, other than the Canadian "connection?"

    1. Re:Am I missing something? by mrxak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amazing what two little words can do to the comments section of slashdot. My guess is nobody actually RTFA, and everyone was too busy cracking jokes about the summary to care.

    2. Re:Am I missing something? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1, Funny

      I did read TFA. It didn't really help...

      "Striking" evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians...

      "People have been searching for evidence of this for decades," Canadian physicist Richard Teuscher said Friday...

      The results of the experiment... were accepted Friday morning for publication in the scientific journal Physical Review Letters, less than 24 hours after it was submitted, said Teuscher, a research scientist at the Canadian Institute for Particle Physics and a physics professor at the University of Toronto....

      Peter Krieger, an associate professor of physics at the University of Toronto, said a detected called the forward calorimeter built in Canada...

      Plus a nice little sidebar called "Canadian content," which says:

      Canadians make up more than 150 of the researchers involved in ATLAS. They have mainly been involved with designing, building, and operating detectors called liquid argon calorimeters...

      Basically, what I got from reading TFA is that man, Canada has a serious ego problem. And yes, it's a groundbreaking discovery, but damn that's distracting.

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    3. Re:Am I missing something? by slackbheep · · Score: 1

      How much from outside the US do you get on the six o'clock news? This is just an example of a Canadian news source pointing out Canadian contribution in a major project, to Canadians. That said, there was no reason to include it in the submission.

    4. Re:Am I missing something? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      I don't watch the six o'clock news much. When I do watch any sort of news, I do see news of events happening outside the US -- and what I don't see is "Americans" or "US Citizens" every other sentence just to make sure I know we're important.

      I mean, I can pick up US News and World Report, which is going to be news from all over from a decidedly American perspective, and it's still not likely to happen.

      I don't even see this kind of stuff on Fox News, let alone legitimate news sources. In fact, about the only place I do see it is from the kind of people who watch Fox News, insisting that this is the greatest country on earth, not because they have any coherent argument, but because they place nationalism into roughly the same mental category as religion -- God and country -- without a rational basis for either.

      I certainly don't have a problem with Canada, nor would I ask for an article to avoid mentioning Canada, but even if I were a Canadian, I'd probably find this a bit ridiculous.

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    5. Re:Am I missing something? by slackbheep · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a Canadian I'd like to point out something you may not yet be privy to: The CBC is awful. Also, Canada has content broadcasting restrictions, requiring X% of broadcast content to be "Canadian", it's always been a kinda goofy requirement, and I wouldn't be shocked to find out that mentions of Canadian contributions to worldwide projects are included in their quota. :P Either way, ridiculous indeed.

  23. RHIC by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 3, Informative

    all the Candian jokes are nice and all.. but this really was about trying to make people think CERN is the only thing going on in HEP or nuclear physics. Not so, and this is not a first as RHIC was there first. Glad to see CERN is catching up though.

    1. Re:RHIC by hardwarefreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      all the Candian jokes are nice and all.. but this really was about trying to make people think CERN is the only thing going on in HEP or nuclear physics. Not so, and this is not a first as RHIC was there first. Glad to see CERN is catching up though.

      I thought the big deal with the LHC is that it was supposed to give us the Higgs Boson, as no other collider on earth was powerful enough to create the Higgs. Enough about this QGP junk. Where's our Higgs Boson?

  24. Quark-Gluon Plasma by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    Who knew Quark had a last name, or that Ferengi had blood plasma? Even more impressive, the LHC created Quark-Gluon Plasma (presumably water with suspended hydrocarbons and traces of his DNA) with a mere collision of some high energy particles.

  25. Re:Offensive by wierd_w · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see why this is modded flamebait-- Offtopic would be more appropriate, since the main subject line really is true. Either both sexes are treated interchangeably in all circumstances, or they are not being treated equal. "Separate but equal" is nonsense in this respect. If there is a draft, it should apply to everyone, not just males-- etc.

    Granted, it could have been put forward in a more polite fashion, but the basic gist of it is true. (And any arguments about women being physically weaker than men must come from people who have never met a determined woman before, nor seen what the average man looks like these days.) The really real problem is that women want to be (and be treated as) feminine. Standing up and "manning up" for equal treatment is seen as being "butch", rather than "practical", and as such they just don't do that. Instead, they whine and moan, but never actually do anything for it.

    Hence the "I want my cake and eat it too-ism" snark.

    The ORIGINAL feminists I have respect for- (The ones that dared to smoke cigars in public like men, wore trousers, cut off their hair, and all that jazz) But the "I can do anything a man can, but I dont want to!" crowd wearing miniskirts, prada, and are going for a boob job to play the hot-chick card, I don't have ANY respect for.

    The hitting jab cuts straight through all the candy coating-- Men hit each other. Women hit each other. (It DOES happen.) But somehow, it is "unforgivably" wrong when a man hits a woman, but not when a woman hits a man. That's the problem the OP is getting at, and I agree. If we are going to treat the sexes as equals, then they should both be equally strikeable for strikeable offenses. (EG, did they hit you? If so, you should be justified to hit back, if for no other reason than to reinforce that you wont tolerate being hit. If you are weaker than them, hit them with a stick. If you are going to play the "Hitting is wrong period" card, then you should stick to those guns, and you should say that two men hitting each other, two women hitting each other, and a woman hitting a man are all EQUALLY as bad as a man hitting a woman is, and Not try to spin some yarn about how it is so much worse when a man hits a woman, because the woman is automatically some frail, flimsy thing. Something that may well not be true. Women are WAY more durable and stronger than western culture gives them credit for, and they should be proud of that.)

    So, again, "off-topic", but not flamebait.

  26. Re:Offensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And your grandchild read the article? I didn't think so.

  27. Re:Offensive by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 3, Funny

    "This experimental setup was so simple, that your grandmother could understand it."

    Two choices, pick one or both:
    This experimental setup was so simple, even the president could understand it.
    This experimental setup was so simple, even the former president could understand it.


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  28. No wonder you're getting strange results.... by rts008 · · Score: 1

    *sigh* Canadians......

    "Someone get sally-fields out of the collider so we can get back to work."

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  29. Warp Speed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So when can we finally implement this jet in a warp engine?

  30. Re:Flag should be a white cross on a red backgroun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the flag should be half "white cross on red background" and half "blue white red" since CERN is not *just* in Switzerland.

    CERN is on the frontier between France and Switzerland, most of the (surface) buildings are in Switzerland while most of the tunnel (where the LHC actually is) is in France.

    Or more to the point, since CERN is an international organisation there should be no specific country flag involved.

  31. Practical usage? by jolyonr · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, when will I be able to buy a Quark-Gluon Plasma TV?

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    1. Re:Practical usage? by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      I don't think they'll ever make it to market, they require gigawatts of power and they break down every few months.

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    2. Re:Practical usage? by mauhiz · · Score: 0

      It needs to be powered by cold fusion. Please be a little more patient, it's only 20 years away!

  32. Re:Flag should be a white cross on a red backgroun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flag should be a white cross on a red background

    No, it shouldn't. CERN is an international organization, and while it's located on the French-Swiss border, it's neither part of France nor part of Switzerland, and not under the jurisdiction of either.

  33. List of authors by DavMz · · Score: 2, Funny

    The list of authors is longer than the paper itself. And it's in alphabetical order. At least, there surely is no fight as to know who will be first author. ^^

  34. Re:Offensive by Dekker3D · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    This one needs a few -1 offtopics and a few more +1 interestings.

    I've always found it weird that women are allowed and sometimes even encouraged to hit men, but the other way around would result in a quickly-won lawsuit of assault and battery. It's unfair, it's against the whole idea of feminism (wasn't it all about equality, at one point?), and it just makes me want to smack a bitch. (For certain values of bitch, I.E.: female superiority feminists)

    There, I said it. Hit me.

  35. Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians, at the facility near Geneva...

    There's three ways to interpret that.

    1) Canadians were present during the observation.
    2) The quark-gluon plasma said, "Hey! What'cha looking at buddy?".

    or

    3) Canadians have spread so far, they've now overrun the LHC, and our only chance to find particles that repel them is lost!

  36. Re:Offensive by Yvanhoe · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Genetically, on average, men are stronger than women. Therefore a man hitting a woman will likely, and on average, have more serious consequences than a woman hitting a man.

    Also, as SF-fed geeks, we tend to live in an idealistic world where men and women just have a chromosomic and trivial biological differences. The reality is different with income/education differences, and social roles that still are very far from implementing equality.

    The first thing a baby hears is "It is a girl !" or "It is a boy !". The first decision of its parents is to name it according to its gender and to begin raising it according to its social gender role. The situation is getting better, but think about how far we are from equality. As a man I often feel really insulted by some feminist extremists (I can't stand silliness, whatever the gender of the person spouting it) but I agree that there is a transitional period where women will need more protections and rights than men. Let's remember this is a transition period, that its reason is not in a superiority of women, and let's abandon them as soon as they are not necessary.

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  37. Re:Offensive by wierd_w · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I personally approach it from the personal experience I have had with my sister-- She used to be a power lifter in highschool, and could squat 300lb. (no, she was NOT a fatchick.)

    The major difference was that she was NOT raised to be a "Pretty in pink" type woman, but instead to be a practical one. We grew up in an agricultural community, and having some brawn was practical. You just cant throw hay-bails without it. I am her full brother, and she was ALWAYS stronger than me.

    It is my contention that most of the "women are weaker" issues comes from the "use it or lose it" type atrophy that comes from being pampered females up on the pedestal. We need more female garbage men, factory workers, etc. Without the sociological indoctrination for "learned helplessness", and without being treated like they CANT do things, women quickly learn that they CAN, and that they are NOT helpless. Women that grow up in such conditions seem to be more approximate to the average male in strength than those that do not, some even surpass men in strength. (My sister scared people in highschool.)

    In short, we need to kill Barbie(tm). Ironically, this is something REAL feminists have been hammering at for years.

  38. 51st staters have always had an identy crisis. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    I don't know why.

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  39. Re:Offensive by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Who cares about your an idiot? His an idiot is the only one that matters!

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  40. Re:Offensive by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

    Grandfathers are rocket scientists, of course they can understand it.

    Duh.

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  41. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where does that bring us? An article in Nature or Science? My compliments.

  42. Re:Offensive by BronsCon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What an idiot?

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  43. Re:Flag should be a white cross on a red backgroun by slackbheep · · Score: 1

    Because the story uses the CBC as a source. Honestly, this could be a whole new way to include ourselves in the news: "Kuwait Not Banning DSLR Cameras After All, According to Canadians "

  44. Re:Offensive by Deefburger · · Score: 1

    I think I love you weired_w. I don't know what this has to do with quark-gluon plasma but I'm a /.er and I'm already excited. Really, I am. Really.

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  45. Re:Offensive by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    But somehow, it is "unforgivably" wrong when a man hits a woman, but not when a woman hits a man. That's the problem the OP is getting at, and I agree. If we are going to treat the sexes as equals, then they should both be equally strikeable for strikeable offenses. (EG, did they hit you? If so, you should be justified to hit back

    Justified perhaps, yes. But would it be the right thing to do?

    Besides, search the web and find the many references to abused women, and almost zero references to abused men. It's a taboo in Western civilization.

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