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Denver Bomb Squad Takes Out Toy Robot

An anonymous reader writes "A robot met its end near Coors Field tonight when the Denver Police Department Bomb Squad detonated the 'suspicious object,' bringing to an end the hours-long standoff between police and the approximately eight-inch tall toy. From the article: "'Are you serious?' asked Denver resident Justin Kent, 26, when police stopped him from proceeding down 20th Street. Kent said that he lived just past the closed area, but was told he would have to go around via Park Avenue.'"

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  1. It's official by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The terrorists have won.

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    1. Re:It's official by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Informative

      If that's our standard, then I should point out that the Boston PD already topped this in the overreaction department back in 2007.

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    2. Re:It's official by paeanblack · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The terrorists have won.

      Why should they get the credit? It's our idiocy and our tax money that brought us to this state.

      Saying "The terrorists have won", is shirking responsibility. This is our fault. We did this.

    3. Re:It's official by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The terrorists have won.

      Why should they get the credit? It's our idiocy and our tax money that brought us to this state.

      Saying "The terrorists have won", is shirking responsibility. This is our fault. We did this.

      OK, "We lost. To the terrorists."

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    4. Re:It's official by sgt+scrub · · Score: 3, Funny

      hmmm maybe what this country needs is an overreaction committee on overreactions. they could even outsource the oversite to the private sector.

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    5. Re:It's official by scrib · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Right, we did it because the terrorists have scared the bejeezus out of us (or at least our officials). Terrorists have us scared, ergo they won. You know, by causing terror?

      When I put on my tin foil hat, I realize that this event and others like the one in Boston are just terrorists probing us for weaknesses and testing the security of their communications. Surely, there are THOUSANDS of odd objects that are in weird places that no one ever reacts to at all. You want to make sure your lines of communication are secure? Leave a harmless toy somewhere are start talking about it as though it was a bomb. If the authorities go bonkers, you've been tapped.

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    6. Re:It's official by uncanny · · Score: 2

      When i was growing up there was someone called the "Speedway bomber" Speedway being the town. He placed normal looking objects, like paper bags with bombs hidden inside of them, onto the road. To this day i'm still a little suspicious of trash sitting in the middle of the road.

    7. Re:It's official by EmagGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not so much that terrorists have won, but much more that police departments get paid more for envisioning ever more over-reactionary and retarded ways to respond to things.

      By convincing town boards that it is necessary to respond to a toy robot with a SWAT team, bomb squad, and a 200-strong terror response force, they can generate a ton of revenue from the town coffers that they get to spend on tacticool gear, weapons, and stuff.

    8. Re:It's official by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2

      Duffel bag full of red candles and an old alarm clock in the airport is always a good one.

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    9. Re:It's official by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, but we beat the Machines! Woot! John Conner!

    10. Re:It's official by Obfuscant · · Score: 2
      It's not so much that terrorists have won, but much more that police departments get paid more for envisioning ever more over-reactionary and retarded ways to respond to things.

      No, it's more like police departments will get excoriated if they miss just one real event out of all the possibilities, so to keep being paid they react to things in the safest way possible.

      It's because "absolute safety" is the mantra of the sheep who think they are owed absolute safety in life, and have been taught by someone that it is possible to achieve.

    11. Re:It's official by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      OK, "We lost. To the terrorists."

      No. The phrase you're looking for is:

      "We lost. To ourselves."

      Although, realistically, I think people are looking at this all wrong. Blowing things up is FUN! If you were a member of the bomb squad and had the chance to go and blow up a toy robot, are you really telling me you'd turn it down?

    12. Re:It's official by oldspewey · · Score: 2

      Wow - now that's what I call asymmetrical economic warfare.

      Old briefcase from thrift shop = $5

      Bringing entire neighbourhoods of Chicago traffic to a standstill during rush hour = millions in lost productivity

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    13. Re:It's official by Tetsujin · · Score: 2

      It's not so much that terrorists have won, but much more that police departments get paid more for envisioning ever more over-reactionary and retarded ways to respond to things.

      By convincing town boards that it is necessary to respond to a toy robot with a SWAT team, bomb squad, and a 200-strong terror response force, they can generate a ton of revenue from the town coffers that they get to spend on tacticool gear, weapons, and stuff.

      You know, now that I think about it, I like this approach! It seems much better than some of the alternatives, like asserting their importance against sports fans happy about a world series win - and if a toy robot or two gets blown up along the way, that's better than an otherwise-happy sports fan getting killed by a pepper-ball to the face.

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    14. Re:It's official by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      If that's our standard, then I should point out that the Boston PD already topped this in the overreaction department back in 2007.

      Uh Uh, those had LED lights. Way more dangerous looking. No contest.

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    15. Re:It's official by scot4875 · · Score: 2

      of racism so the most USEFUL anti-terrorist tool available, profiling, is out

      Suddenly I keep hearing this garbage repeated by, presumably, limited/anti-government types who hate Muslims, but can't bring themselves to admit one simple fact: there are NO useful anti-terrorist tools available. Profiling for Muslims is just as ineffective as every other measure the TSA has taken so far; it has the same problem of there being several orders of magnitude more Muslims than there are terrorists. The false positive rate will be off the charts, so it'll be the same as what we have now: everything gets through.

      tl;dr: profiling is an order of magnitude better than the blanket scans TSA are doing. Unfortunately it is still several orders of magnitude away from being effective.

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  2. Did it at least have wires and blinking lights by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Funny
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  3. Oh no by mr100percent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Great, they shot Zerg from Toy Story.

    If it's possibly an explosive device tied to a bridge support, why would it be a good idea for the police to detonate it?

    1. Re:Oh no by Gravitron+5000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Generally, the bomb squad 'detonates' an object with a burst of extremely high pressure water. This disrupts the electronics which would make the bomb go boom, and generally smashes the bomb to bits. You essentially get pieces of a bomb that have been detonated by the bomb squad, rather than pieces of a bomb with a lot of collateral damage which would occur if the bomb itself detonated.

    2. Re:Oh no by meerling · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually it does, that's the whole point. You have a controlled explosion in that it goes off when you want it to, not the bomber. Additionally you have placed barricades and other protective structures to minimize the damage.
      If you think about it, how can exposing an explosive to an explosion be expected to not set it off? Just a side note, if you blow up a nuke, you don't get a nuclear explosion, you get a dirty explosion. The reason is simple, to go nuclear it has to be a carefully timed and controlled explosion so the nuclear material reaches critical mass, which is something that won't happen from a blast originating outside it's core. Yes, Hollywood got it wrong about a million times, no big surprise. You ever watch a movie and people are afraid to drop the plastic explosions? I've burned plastic explosives, thrown it around like a ball of putty, and watched someone shoot it with a rifle at close range. It needs another explosion to set it off, dropping it won't do anything except make it splat like putty.
      (On a side note, I've been in the vehicle, or within a 100' of around 40 or 50 car wrecks, and not even once has one of them caught fire or exploded. So yeah, Hollywood sucks on the realism score.)

    3. Re:Oh no by wyr_taliesin · · Score: 2

      have you thought of taking driving lessons?

    4. Re:Oh no by Shoten · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually it does, that's the whole point. You have a controlled explosion in that it goes off when you want it to, not the bomber. Additionally you have placed barricades and other protective structures to minimize the damage.

      Better explanation: when the bomb squad "detonates" a bomb, they don't blow it up in the traditional sense. What they do is put what's known as a 'water charge' by it, which does contain a small bomb and a fair amount of harmless water. The water cushions the blast enough that it doesn't cause what's known as a 'sympathetic detonation' but still carries enough kinetic effec to, in essence, tear the bad-guy bomb apart without causing it to explode as the terrorist/attacker/nutjob intended.

      Besides, you don't sever a bridge support by putting a small bomb near one side of it...you need two explosive charges against it, offset from each other to create a shearing effect. Those suckers are a lot tougher than they look. (Yeah, I have a merit badge in demolitions...my Boy Scout troop was a little more aggressive than most...)

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    5. Re:Oh no by tehdaemon · · Score: 2
      From wikipedia :

      "C4 is very stable and insensitive to most physical shocks. Detonation can only be initiated by a combination of extreme heat and a shock wave, as when a detonator inserted into it is fired. C4 cannot be detonated by a gunshot or by dropping it onto a hard surface. It does not explode when lit on fire or exposed to microwave radiation."

      T

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    6. Re:Oh no by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2

      (On a side note, I've been in the vehicle, or within a 100' of around 40 or 50 car wrecks, and not even once has one of them caught fire or exploded. So yeah, Hollywood sucks on the realism score.)

      Except for James Cameron. Some years ago I received, as a gift, a hardbound copy of the annotated script of Terminator II. It was very interesting, because you could see how Cameron justified many of the destructive effects. At ont point, the script was describing the scene where the liquid-metal man is driving a truck, chasing Arnie and John Connor on the motorcycle. When the truck crashes, there's a quick cut scene where you see a battery and some sparking wires, just before the truck explodes. Cameron's reason for that shot was "contrary to popular belief, vehicles do not just explode on contact with things."

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  4. Mental image by dorkinson · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can just see the police standing behind their open car doors with guns drawn while the negotiator takes out the bullhorn and says "What are your demands? Do you come in peace?"

  5. Bang for your buck by mykos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Spending on anti-terrorism morbidly outstrips spending on terrorism. They fly a couple of planes into a buildings and the third largest country in the world spend over a trillion dollars on war and counter terrorism. As an added bonus, they get to laugh at our ridiculous countermeasures like fondling (or viewing nude) every man, woman, and child who commits suspicious activities like "boarding a plane".

  6. Important fact missing from summary. by blair1q · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "It was cemented in. That's odd," [Denver Police Spokesman Matt] Murray said.

    That is odd. It probably should justify the involvement of the police.

    However,

    Murray said that a citizen called police at 3:27 p.m. to report the presence of the plastic white toy robot cemented to the base of a pillar supporting a footbridge near the intersection of 20th and Wazee streets.

    How did the citizen know it was cemented in? Did he manipulate it enough to know it couldn't be removed? And if he did, how did that affect the likelihood that the object was a danger to anyone? And would the police have cared if someone hadn't been freaked-out by it?

    1. Re:Important fact missing from summary. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like that toy pissed off the Toy Mafia.

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  7. Re:Just blowing stuff up that seem strange? by uncanny · · Score: 2

    Doesnt the bomb squad have on of those briefcase sized substance analysers like they do at airports to detect explosives? p>

    Yeah, that sounds like as much fun!

  8. Wait for the law suit by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When they claim that the robot was a hoax bomb attempt, instead of admitting that the cops were too stupid to tell the difference between a toy and a bomb.

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  9. Re:Welcome to the new world... by Amouth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    exactly how many "bombs" have been stopped this way? and exactly how many items get "left" places every day.

    sorry but this security theater is getting way over done.. i understand playing devils advocate - but as far as i'm concerned the populous has turned to sheep..

    the the bombs blow.. let them crash planes.. i'm still far more likely to die every day because the guy next to me is driving a 2 ton truck and to busy texting to notice he isn't in his lane any more.

    people live - people die.. get over it.. if you just go about your life and let them just keep trying.. eventually it won't be worth it to them, and even if they don't stop - it doesn't matter..

    there is no amount of things you can do that will stop people from doing what they set them selves out to do.

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  10. Nuke it from orbit... by jacks0n · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's the only way to be sure.

  11. Re:Just blowing stuff up that seem strange? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Dude, if you have the ok to blow shit up, you blow shit up!

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  12. It wasn't Boston this time... by meerling · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised the Denver cops think a fairly normal looking toy is strange looking and suspicious. This kind of stupidity seems to usually be Boston cops.
    I'm betting it was just some guerrilla art, look for more small toys to be cemented around town.
    At 8" it wouldn't have had enough explosives from that positioning to do any real damage to that bridge support even if it was solid tritonal.

    Can anyone out there identify that toy from the photo? I'm betting it's hollow plastic and at least partially articulated.

    On a side note, I wonder if they're going to start profiling teddy bears next...

  13. Re:Welcome to the new world... by Ephemeriis · · Score: 2

    The problem with trivializing the bomb squad's action is the next suspicious object may not be a innocent little toy.

    This was probably a prank, but it could also be a test to see what security measures are in place (probing).

    Sure, it could have been a bomb...

    And that car parked on the side of the street could be a bomb. And that McDonald's bag could be a bomb. And that half-eaten apple could be a bomb. And that guy on a big with a backpack could be carrying a bomb. Just about anything could be a bomb.

    Are you suggesting that we call the bomb squad for anything and everything that looks even vaguely suspicious?

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  14. We have met the enemy... by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    And he is us. - pogo

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  15. When did we become afraid of everything? by whyde · · Score: 2

    I'm waiting for the day when some nutjob fashions a piece of doggie-poo looking substance out of brown-painted C4 with an embedded motion-sensitive detonator.

    There, I've said it. Let everyone be scared of any stray pile of poop laying on a city sidewalk. Perhaps then, when we try to ban dogs completely, people may wake up and see that it's just not worth going through life terrified of everything.

    Ugh.

  16. Re:Welcome to the new world... by Ephemeriis · · Score: 2

    Are you suggesting that we call the bomb squad for anything and everything that looks even vaguely suspicious?

    I think the fact that the plastic toy was cemented to the base of a pillar supporting a footbridge was what made it suspicious.

    FTA: "It was cemented in. That's odd," Murray said. Murray said that suspicious objects do not automatically warrant a call to the bomb squad if patrol officers are able to determine that there is no threat. He said that the robot was strange enough to warrant precautionary measures. In the end, it proved harmless.

    Yes, I read that.

    And my question still stands.

    Are you suggesting that we call the bomb squad for anything and everything that looks even vaguely suspicious?

    Some kid gets bored and superglues his sister's lunchbox to a wall, are we going to call the bomb squad?

    Some artist gets creative and sticks some kind of magnetic LCD to something, are we going to call the bomb squad?

    Some guy forgets his luggage on the side of the road as he rushes to make a flight on time, are we going to call the bomb squad?

    There's all sorts of odd and suspicious stuff around us. Generally speaking, it isn't a bomb. It could be... But it isn't, usually. Are we just going to err on the side of caution and call the bomb squad every time something looks slightly out of place?

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  17. That's the point... by MarcQuadra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's the point of 'asymmetric warfare'. We lose if we overreact, and overreacting is our nature. We got played. Hard.

    But really, can you see this speech getting you elected to office:

    "Sure, a lot of good folks died on 9/11, but we have to be strong. 9/11 is bait, we have to be sure not to walk into the trap, because we have so much more to lose than they can ever hope of gaining. Some are calling for war. War will cost trillions of dollars and thousands more American lives. I've authorized a small team of operatives to act on capturing the perpetrators dead or alive, and I've activated a special diplomatic corps to curry favor with host countries for allowing our teams to work on their soil. First we're going to ask politely, then we'll bribe them, and if that doesn't work, we'll threaten embargo and international action, and finally, we'll use our superior skill and technology to just go ahead and get the job done as cleanly as possible without permission. Hopefully it doesn't come to that."

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  18. Re:Welcome to the new world... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

    And my question still stands.

    Of course it does. You introduced hyperbole into the discussion and assume everybody is sheep and no preliminary checks are done prior to sending out a bomb squad. Based on your assumptions you decided that the best course of action is inaction.

    Are you suggesting that we call the bomb squad for anything and everything that looks even vaguely suspicious?

    I made no such suggestion. I stated that if we start trivializing judgment calls made by police in the field, we risk letting a real bomb detonate without detection. I never said we should treat every piece of litter as a potential bomb. You introduced that hypothesis in order to make it easier for you to argue that security concerns are being overblown.

    Some kid gets bored and superglues his sister's lunchbox to a wall, are we going to call the bomb squad?

    If he does it in his own home then no. If he did it in an alleyway with little to no foot traffic then no. If he did it in at a high traffic area and no one saw him do it and someone felt concerned enough to call the police then maybe yes. If he did it to a supporting structure of a footbridge then yes.

    Some artist gets creative and sticks some kind of magnetic LCD to something, are we going to call the bomb squad?

    Wow you brought up a single very public incident in 2007 by the Boston police department. Congratulations! Now how many similar events happened since?

    Some guy forgets his luggage on the side of the road as he rushes to make a flight on time, are we going to call the bomb squad?

    Happens all the time and there's a TSA agent nearby to make that judgment call.

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