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Swiss Bank Has 43-Page Dress Code
Tasha26 writes "The HR of Swiss bank UBS AG came up with an innovative 43-page document (French) to establish fashion 'dos' and 'don'ts' in their retail branches. Among the rules are such things as: 'neither sex should allow their underwear to appear,' perhaps Dilbert was a bit ahead of them on that. The document also mentions smells and 'avoid garlic and onion-based dishes.'"
Should avoid working for this bank!
Only dress code that should be required: 1) Do not show up to work naked. 2) If you're in a position where you need to be taken seriously, dress so that the other guy will take you seriously. 3) Seriously, noone wants to see you naked.
I can't wait for companies to start using these to enforce dress codes. "I'm sorry, Jim, but we can't allow you to wear your pretty, pretty princess underwear to work."
"I'm just here to regulate funkiness."
So uh a business whose employees deal with customers on a daily basis in an industry where projecting an image of professionalism is very important has developed a guide to aid their employees? This just sounds like common sense to me.
43 pages sounds a bit insane, until you actually look at it. Large print, lots of diagrams, lots of whitespace/formatting not 43 walls of text. It actually looks pretty clean and readable.
Financial institutions are still one of the last places where we expect people to put some effort into their appearance. Even geeks like myself who cringe when they have to put on a tie tend to expect the people dealing with our savings to look the part. If the guy I’m greeted by has a nose ring, I’m out of there. Yay for double standards I guess.
And when opening new accounts for African dictators, "intelligence" groups, mercenaries, drug-lords, and the odd nazi, one should be sure that one's hands are kept lily white.
At least they let the French write the dress code instead of the Germans. I'd rather see co-workers wearing black socks with tennis shoes than socks and sandals.
"I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
I've seen too many written dress codes where 99% of the don'ts apply only to women. This one is about 50/50 on what's right for both men and women. I like that it shows what's right, it's not just a shopping list of what's wrong. They want a plain but classy look. I could live with it if I worked there.
Me? I'm showing a bit of cleavage today, and, yes, my bra is showing. If it's going to show anyway, wear a nice one.
...laura
The U.S. Army's guide to dressing up right is 362 pages.
And they have total control of the manufacture and issue of the clothes. They're not suffering all the randomness that the fashion and retail industries insert into civilian clothing choices.
Chances are they will enforce it strictly on everyone except Muslims who insist or wearing a kamize and hajib who will be told "of course wear what you want, our culture is subservient to yours"
This is not a troll. It is a commentary on the double standards which exist in the UK and other parts of Europe. They have a double standard for driver's license photos and for airport security for muslim women.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Chances are they will enforce it strictly on everyone except Muslims who insist or wearing a kamize and hajib who will be told "of course wear what you want, our culture is subservient to yours"
This is not a troll. It is a commentary on the double standards which exist in the UK and other parts of Europe. They have a double standard for driver's license photos and for airport security for muslim women.
If the muslim woman can't take her mask off to have her picture taken, if it covers your face its a mask by any other name, she shouldn't be driving either.
Just holding them to their own standards, can't claim one without the other.
If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
Chances are they will enforce it strictly on everyone except Muslims who insist or wearing a kamize and hajib who will be told "of course wear what you want, our culture is subservient to yours"
This is not a troll. It is a commentary on the double standards which exist in the UK and other parts of Europe. They have a double standard for driver's license photos and for airport security for muslim women.
Correct. Some people are so used to giving way to Islam that they see any suggestion that we should hold Muslims to the same standards as anyone else as "islamaphobic". We ban Santa because more than one Muslim might be offended, but if two non-muslims said they were offended by an "Eid Murnbarak" poster how far do you think that would get. When Muslims set off bombs in our cities the call is not to stop Muslims setting off bombs but not to allow the incident to undermine multiculturalism! Muslims frequently burn bibles but go on the rampage when someone says they will burn the Qur'an - but doesn't!
Empty restaurants, man.
This is big vs. small business. No one ever takes small businesses into account when doing national statistics. But your bread-and-butter money laundering scheme in this country is your typical empty mom and pop restaurant.
dress codes are bullshit. Total bullshit. Go to a bank in Italy on a summer's day, for instance. You'll find the clerks are dressed way down from what you'd see in the US. No tie, open shirt collar. And you know what? You won't have any sense that they're "unprofessional". Whatever that means. Ride the train through Switzerland. A conductor with an earring may well greet you. He did me. And he did his work efficiently.
What I'm saying is that the whole "dress code" is largely US-centric. That's not to say there are no rules of dress -- I've had the pleasure of getting thrown out of a store right off the beach in the South of France for not wearing a shirt. But just as hard-working Europeans still feel justified in demanding 5 weeks of holiday and are less inclined to put in 60-hour weeks, they show up for work dressed neatly but not in the uniform that's demanded of their American counterparts. The thing that's amazing to me is that most people posting here clearly feel the uniform is justified. What do you care if the guy in the bank has a tie on or not? Why should any employer have that kind of power over you?
I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up "money laundering" in wikipedia.
The first company I worked for was a small software company and the dress code only listed what the men could and couldn't wear (shirts & ties every day, no jeans, the only loophole I could find was no mention of shoes, so I wore my Converse high tops with my suit...). I asked the boss how come it was only for men and since there was only one woman working there he said "Angie already knows how to dress."
Our boss, who enforced the dress code in the office spent two to three weeks a month at our biggest client's office out of state. The client had casual Fridays and the boss would tell us on the phone how nice it was not to dress up every day while he was there, but still wouldn't relent and let us dress casual on Fridays in our own office.
The dress code was based on the philosophy "you have to dress like an accounting to write accounting software." The next company where I worked the accounting department mostly came to work in tie dye and Birkenstock sandals, and according to someone, were out smoking dope in the parking lot during their lunch breaks...