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Minecraft Reaches Beta Status, Price Goes Up

Eric writes "After over a year of development, Minecraft has hit Beta status today. Minecraft was developed for about a week before its public release on May 17, 2009. With the new milestone, the price of the game has increased to €14.95; when Minecraft moves beyond beta status, it will sell for €20.00. The beta is more focused on polish and content. The aim is to add proper modding support via a stable API, some kind of non-intrusive narrative to help drive the game experience early on, and a late-game goal. Updates will be less frequent, so as to make sure stability is maintained thanks to more extended testing. Despite this, there have already been two beta releases: client and server Beta 1.0 followed quickly by client 1.0_01."

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  1. The real question going through my mind is.. by Ventriloquate · · Score: 4, Interesting

    did they get their money back from PayPal?

    1. Re:The real question going through my mind is.. by Ailure · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, Notch got his money. :)

  2. Re:Preorder now! by srothroc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was written; you were paying for a product that existed at the time, with the bonus being unlimited future updates. Beta purchasers are not eligible for the unlimited future updates, unfortunately. A lot of people, me included, obviously thought that the game as it was in its nascent alpha stage was worth the 10-15 USD (depending on the exchange rate) being charged for it.

  3. Re:Preorder now! by Khyber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No shit.

    This man made BANK on a fucking ALPHA.

    What the fuck? I can understand needing development capital, but still, charging for an Alpha?

    Insanity. He just showed up Microsoft, Apple, Google, EVERYBODY, at their own goddamned game.

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  4. Re:Preorder now! by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Beta purchasers are not eligible for the unlimited future updates, unfortunately.

    They are eligible for all updates up until the final release, and all bugfixes, though.

  5. Re:Preorder now! by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not like Notch twisted anybody's arm. Several hundred thousand people, myself included, enjoy the game enough in its current form to be willing to pay for it. And if that means it's cheaper and we get all the add-ons for free, all the better.

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  6. Poor programmer? by gilleain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Regardless of whether you blame Minecraft's success on luck or Notch's genius, he's a rather poor programmer. If you read through the release notes on his blog, he's apparently incapable of adding features without breaking lots of stuff on the way and waiting for him to fix basic functionality can take months.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that programming 'under the spotlight' can be very distracting. What with twitter, blog comments, and forums there are far too many ways for the customer base to contact Notch 24/7. That's got to make fixing stuff hard if people are constantly shouting "FIX IT!" in your ear.

    1. Re:Poor programmer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm pretty tired of the "unless you've done something better, shut up" argument. Why do I need to demonstrate I'm a super-star programmer before I can complain about a game that isn't fun? Or a best-selling musician before I can comment on how crappy certain songs are? If I call a film out as having really poorly-acted, is my opinion invalid because I'm not Ian McKellan?

      If you have released something into the public eye, and it is flawed, then you know what? I'm going to say so. I'm not going to hold my mouth shut while thinking "well, I don't know how to fix his game-save corruption bug, so I guess it's none of my business", especially if I've paid for the damned thing. I'm going to say "Hey, what happened to my save? Fix it!" And likewise, if they make something great, then I'll say so too. If the programmer/musician/actor/whoever is worth their salt, they'll learn from the criticism, and graciously accept the praise.

      Now, don't get me wrong; the AC above was being whiny, especially given the game's literally under 24 hours out of Alpha. But just tell them "Hey, you're being a whiny bitch, file a bug report and enjoy what works", not "Could I just see your programming credentials? Oh, Mr. Newell, I didn't know... I guess this means you were right all along."

    2. Re:Poor programmer? by MostAwesomeDude · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He is a terrible programmer.

      He doesn't use Java NIO; instead, he uses threads. Wanna guess how many threads he spawns on startup? How about how many threads he spawns per connected player? (Answer: 12 and 4.)

      His wire protocol and disk format are horrible. No delimiters, no seekability, no fixed packet sizes. He invented his own little standards and they are horrible. http://www.minecraft.net/docs/NBT.txt is the disk format; before that, he just serialized the Java classes directly to disk. (And to wire; one of the Alpha wire packets was just a chunk of the disk format!)

      His grasp of GL is embarrassingly awful. He pridefully boasts GL 1.1 compatibility, but the fact is that he uses no features or extensions from GL 1.2 or later, including shaders, dynamic lighting, or vertex buffer objects. All of the drawing is done in slow display lists, and the lighting is done through a statically stored light map. (This might not set off alarm bells if you haven't done GL before. Trust me when I say that this is horribly slow.)

      I wouldn't mind if it weren't for the fact that he has charged for alpha-quality software, as part of an open alpha test.

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  7. Re:Preorder now! by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From a first-person perspective you place and remove blocks, which have various properties, to build things. Some of those blocks can be combined and refined to make:

    * New kinds of blocks, like glass or stairs
    * Tools, like pickaxes and torches
    * Interactable objects like doors, vehicles and refining furnaces
    * Sensors, switches, buttons and NOR gates, with which one can build everything from an automatic door to a turing-complete computer

    The world you play in is procedurally generated from a seed and, depending on technical limitations, is several times the size of the surface of the earth, albeit only 128 metres deep. There is a day-night cycle, monsters can spawn wherever it is sufficiently dark (i.e. at night or in unlit caverns) and farm animals can spawn wherever it is sufficiently bright.

    For example, I have built a monster-resistant house with a moat, and a system of water channels that funnels the creatures from the moat down to a contraption that kills them, at which point their loot is funnelled to a sensor that lights up a lamp upstairs to tell me to go fetch the goodies. I'm currently finishing off that system before I venture into a newly-discovered cave system to get some more iron ore with which to build some tracks for a railway system. On another part of the map, I am hollowing out a mountain to build a secure location in which to construct a portal to a parallel dimension of pure suffering.

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  8. Re:Preorder now! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in other words... If you like the grinding in other games, you'll love minecraft as it is never ending grinding.

    never ending....

    I want the last 210 hours back..... Wait, I have to build more walls.... brb...

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  9. Re:Preorder now! by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, he essentially sold the full version of the game plus any upgrades he will ever release. You just happen to get access to all pre-release versions, as well. Essentially it's a discounted preorder that automatically enrolls you into the alpha/beta test. (Yes, he did actualy sell the alpha but you still got access to any subsequent release.)

    Plus, this kind of model seems to be getting more common these days: You first have people preorder and then use their preorder money to actually develop the product. OpenPandora Ltd. is using the same approach to develop a handheld console - and they can't even deliver prerelease versions. Yet it works.

    It's pretty interesting. Essentially you crowdsource for development capital; this allows startups and independent developers to take a shot at developing and releasing a product without having the required funds up front. Of course it puts the risk on the customer but it's interesting nonetheless.

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