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How To Use a Real Guitar With Rock Band 3
wirelessdreamer writes "Using a real guitar, with a hex-aphonic pickup, and guitar synth rock band 3 pro guitar mode can be played NOW with a real guitar. Thanks to the game2midi project for makeing g2ghpro a multiplatform release. Selfless promotion as the submitter is the game2midi project lead :)"
Real guitars are for old people.
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Looking forward to seeing Rock Band: Backstage pass, groupies and all.
Is this thing on?
that guy is really bad at that game
I think this is a pretty good idea and would be nice if it could be made more main stream. It gets kinda annoying when you have a bunch of kids bragging about how could they are at guitar hero, even though they can't play a real one at all. It could also help kids learn an instrument that they would otherwise look past since that it would be a video game and therefor automagically cool.
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I was the project lead for a similar project for Call of Duty. Didn't go so well for my TV.
Looks like it was posted by a 13 year old who isn't good at makeing [sic] sentences.
Or, rather then subject myself to the struggle that is the recording industry, with sub-single-digit success percentages, i can come home from working at my real job and play video games. It's fun. Relax.
And again - no one cares.
The Axon Ax 100 that he's using lists for ~$650. The pickup he's using (Roland Gk-3a) is another $200. Pretty neat trick if you've already got the equipment, but for the same price you could buy the Rock Band 3 guitar controller and a semi-decent regular guitar.
This is real cute, but what I really want, and I'm not alone in this, is SOFTWARE that incorporates guitar lessons into a game. Have it process the audio input and evaluate my performance in real-time, like a guitar prof would do. I don't want the instrument to be dumbed down to a 5 input game controller, I want the game to get smarter so I can learn with that abstract carrot dangling on my screen, in the form of a high score.
-Billco, Fnarg.com
Exactly. The same goes for people who buy steering wheel controllers for games like GT5. Instead, they should go buy a real car and drive it at high speed rather than pretending in their mom's basement all night. Amirite?
There's nothing wrong with using a guitar shaped controller to play a music-themed game. Enjoying a video game doesn't prevent you from learning to play an instrument, drive a car, or fly a plane. Like John Lennon said, time you enjoy wasting was not wasted.
That's ironic, considering your name and sig. Enemy of the music industry, much ?
-Billco, Fnarg.com
By the same token, Lennon, as a teenager, played until fingers bled, as did his bandmates.
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Music takes practice. It took years of practice for me to get where I am in terms of my singing. It's just not that easy to be able to handle wide ranges of music. Learning the effects alone set me back several years.
And really the same goes for just about anything else of value. If you want to have a developed ear for music, it's going to take a lot of work.
Shouldn't that have been "shameless self-promotion?"
To use a real guitar... Simple have someone else play rockband, plug your guitar into your half stack and shred all over their pathetic video game playing ass.
...because plugging your guitar into Rock Band as opposed to a real amp on stage with a few other people will still ultimately leave your virginity intact.
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http://www.fender.com/promos/2010/rockband3 Only cheaper, easier, and most likely better interaction with the game.
Somehow reminds me of that desktop software thingy which was really cluttered and simulated a real, really messy desk, with piles of unordered stuff. The worst of both worlds. If you're gonna play real guitar and the others know how to play stuff too, get together at a bar and play live, it's immensely better than 4 people in the living room. More booze, more chicks, more fun, better atmosphere, unbelievably more rewarding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfCDjwHBBuM&feature=BF&list=PLDE23FAC8A681FA46&index=14
See: 4:25. Get to it!
If you have PS2 Amplitude and Frequency, you don't need a single RB or Guitar Hero game.
PS2 game publishers have a habit of shutting down the online multiplayer servers once the game is in the bargain bin. After that, all you get is "DNAS Error -103: This software title is not in service." Furthermore, Frequency and Amplitude have only the 25 or so songs each that they come with; they definitely lack anything like Rock Band Network where prosumers in the USA with an App Hub subscription can make their own songs and submit them to Harmonix.
I feel sorry if you spent more than $8 on a controller
The Dual Shock 2 used for Amplitude and Frequency cost more than that. Or did you mean use one of the bargain-basement third-party controllers that wear out faster?
The problem isn't the game. The game is basically a Simon game, just with rock music. Wonderful, that is fine if that sort of memory/reaction game is your thing. The problem is that far too many people think they are badass because they can "play" a song in GH/RB. There are so damn many videos online of people showing off at how good they are at a song. They really seem to have the idea that they are talented by being able to do it and that they are actually "playing" the music.
It can get annoying, in particular to those that have put in the effort to actually learn an instrument to a high level of proficiency, which takes quite a lot of work.
This just reminded me of the South Park episode: http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s11e13-guitar-queer-o
I wrote a MIDI driver for the wii guitar hero controller. It's BSD licensed, too.
http://www.chriseineke.com/ghctrl/index.html
- chris
For the same price, you could probably pick up a couple of groupies and an eightball.
If you are a real rockstar, the groupies and the eightball are free...
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Is playing Rock Band like playing Madden? No! Whereas Madden runs football plays used in real football and approximates coaching, there is nothing about Rock Band that is like playing actual music except maybe the bouncing around. If Rock Band forced you to finger real chords then I could see a similarity. There is no actual education that can be delivered other than training your muscle memory to push buttons in a pattern whereas Madden teaches you football.
While I'm not endorsing RB/GH haters, I do(kind of) understand why he dislikes their trumped skills so much. It's the same thing that makes me snort at the Karate Kid(though I did love it as a movie), Forbidden Kingdom(again, one of my favorite movies), and really any other film where someone miraculously condenses a decade of training into an exponentially shorter amount of time, because they had a good teacher. It took me years to get to my current level(5 years of traditional Japanese karate, for reference), and I'm no where near the level a lot of these Miracle Talents(tm) end up being. If I decided to take it as a serious suggestion that training the human body at that speed was possible, I'd be highly insulted. I'm not, because I don't, but I can understand Sycraft-fu and MightyMartian from their POV.
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
Next up, how to use a *real* hammer in WoW or how to use a *real* gun in $insert_first_person_shooter. Television makers the world over - OK, so they all come from China anyway - will rejoice...
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Have you actually played Rockband 3 in pro mode? Rockband singlehandedly coached me into learning the Keyboard. Like, an actual one. That is, I can now play music on my grandmothers reed organ. My buddy is now a heck of a drummer thanks to Rockband 2 & 3 (again, he now owns a real (albeit electric) drum set & plays in a real band). And if they ever put out a bass version of their new Mustang, I'll pick that up too! Just because there's an "Easy Mode" doesn't mean there isn't more. Heck, even Madden has that new Rookie mode doesn't it?
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From the project page:
g2ghpro (guitar synth to guitar hero pro) - has full multiplatform support (windows,linux,osx) so Guitar Synthesizers can be used for pro guitar mode in rock band 3. I think some bugs still need to be worked out, so feedback is welcome.
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rediculous.
Madden doesn't have anything to do with running while holding a ball and getting your face smashed into the ground.
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I watched the video... anyone else here this mysterious tapping sound coming from off-camera somewhere? Sounds a lot like the tapping I hear when my neices play guitar hero...
as a real guitarplayer of over 20 years who plays for passion, has played countless clubs, recorded in studios, hung out with the guys in the band and had a blast, i have never played rockband and never will. it has nothing to do with music and i wouldn't be good at it. i'm really good at playing guitar. rockband or guitar hero is a cool looking game of tetris. what irritates me is people who think they can play guitar after playing that game.
Pro mode is where its at.
We bought my son a full drum kit based upon his love of Rockband 1 and 2, he wore out both drum kits that shipped with the game, we picked up a nice highend Rolland digital (so he can put on his headphones and SHUT THE HELL UP so the neighbors woudln't complain) set on clearance at Guitar Center. He's since joined a band and has become an outstanding drummer.
The best part is that prior to Rockband he had ZERO interest in learning to play an instrument, but once his friends showed him how much fun Rockband can be, he was in it 100%.
are lazy. Get a real guitar and learn to play it. Stop being antisocial and make some friends, start a band. Lots of kids used to do this, me included. It was fun and a learning experience. Much more so than the many hours of my youth I wasted on video games.
Have you played Power Gig? It has 0 lessons, 0 'actually playing the song' modes, and the only portion of the game that is any different from standard Rock Band / Guitar Hero is 'power chords' which aren't the actual notes in the song anyway. Not to mention you can hit the top string with your pick and hold the bottom fret and vice versa. The only thing 'real' about Power Gig is that you can use the guitar outside of the game, and that you have to press on frets and use a pick.
This. The criticism that Rock Band doesn't improve musical ability or chops is simply not true anymore. I have my friend's Casio keybaord hooked up to the game (albeit right hand only charts). I have my Alesis edrums working with the game and even mapped over the MIDI notes for the hi-hat to work. There is a Squier coming out for the game in March. Aside from this, what's with the prevalent condescension towards music games? I personally don't like most FPS games, but I don't consider everyone who plays them a numbskull.
Why do you keep lying? THERE IS NO REAL PLAYING OF A GUITAR in Power Gig! I bought the game at Best Buy accidentally the day after Christmas. Unlocked all of the songs so my fiancee could play Dave Matthews. Bought a guitar amp and patch cord so I could actually play it. Again, do not listen to this guy.
I do disagree that PowerGig is as bad as the reviews it received. I have played Rock Band and Guitar Hero and using the controller will knock you down a level, but that should be expected. It does motivate me at least to try harder. My fiancee is scared to move to a level she will fail at more times than not and enjoys getting 100% on easier levels.
What 'does it do that it claims' that you believe? Dismissing a review when you have no freaking clue what the gameplay is like makes me dismiss anything you ever say as total bullshit.
I played a crapload of GH2/GH3/RB/RB2/RB:Beatles before deciding I wanted to learn how to play a real guitar. It's been over a year since I made that decision and I haven't played the game once.
With projects like this, though, I'd love to pick up the games again and start learning those real songs on my guitar.
I don't know if I ever would have started playing real guitar without those games, and now that I play guitar I don't look down on those games or insult the people who play them. Not only are they just games (and games that I find fun), but they can be a gateway into real music and creativity.
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No shit -- after a full season, Madden actually improved my real-life 40 times by over half a second, I'm a much better tackler, *and* I'm better at hanging on to the ball.
Still need to work on my passing accuracy though.
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The thing is, playing GT5 with a steering wheel and pedals will actually make you a better driver of real cars, to a point. Most noticeable when something goes wrong in a real car (if you've been playing GT5 without traction control or stability management) and you instinctively know what way to turn the wheel out of a slide. You are trying to compare simulators (GT, flight sims) to arcade games (GH, RB). Better off saying 'playing Outrun wont make you a better driver, like playing Space Invaders won't make you a better pilot.
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Sure, and playing RockBand with a real guitar will strengthen your hands, improve dexterity, and setup muscle memory for picking and fretting. All things that will likely help someone learning guitar.