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Comcast-NBC Merger Approved By FCC

AndyAndyAndyAndy writes "It seems that the FCC has approved the proposed merger between Comcast and NBC, effectively kicking apart hopes for protection against 'pipes and their water' frameworks. Pres. Obama's 2008 goal also goes ignored: 'I strongly favor diversity of ownership of outlets and protection against the excessive concentration of power in the hands of any one corporation, interest or small group.' The Dept. of Justice is also onboard, leaving little hope that this will be stopped."

268 comments

  1. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF? I thought the Dems were all about keeping the monopolies from taking over, and then collapsing, as happened in 2008.

    1. Re:WTF by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

      WTF? I thought the Dems were all about keeping the monopolies from taking over, and then collapsing, as happened in 2008.

      "Democrats" and "Republicans" haven't run anything in the United States for at least a few decades.

      These terms are only used for betting purposes now. Political power belongs to people for whom limiting terms such as "party" or "ideology" have no meaning.

      Today, power is vested with people whose names are not widely known. "Dems" and "Repubs" are little more than handy punching bags that can be blamed for problems so the people in power won't be disturbed.

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    2. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? I thought the Dems were all about keeping the monopolies from taking over, and then collapsing, as happened in 2008.

      Dems are all about media monopolies.

    3. Re:WTF by Cwix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Like that damn liberal Reupert Murdoch

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    4. Re:WTF by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Only three of the five FCC commissioners can be of the same party - meaning, you only need one democrat and the two republicans to allow something like that.

      I have no idea if that's what's happened in this case, though.

    5. Re:WTF by icebraining · · Score: 5, Informative

      It seems it's not - according to TFA, the decision was approved with 4 - 1 votes. Michael Copps was the only one to vote against. I salute him.

    6. Re:WTF by Baseclass · · Score: 1

      Dems and reps are one in the same, corporate shills all too eager to sell legislation to the highest bidder.
      Don't let the media confuse you with their hot button left/right bullshit propaganda.

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    7. Re:WTF by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My political take on the situation is that Obama is facing criticism that he isn't "business friendly", and the GOP is using this impression to pin the lingering jobs problem on him. For this reason, he has been reluctant to address mergers.

      I don't agree with the GOP on the business-friendly issue; for companies have plenty of profits and cash of late. However, in politics, impressions are everything and Obama is facing re-election soon.

    8. Re:WTF by pecosdave · · Score: 0, Troll

      Republicrats as I call them. They don't represent the people, they represent groups of companies, and they "steer the flow of money" towards the companies that own the politicians. The left Republicrats are usually owned by different companies than right Republicrats, but there is some overlap. The issues we talk about at election time are just distractions away from the real reason the politicians are there and those issues are only addressed to gather votes.

      I don't like the idea of there being a "flow of money" to begin with. Those types of things are outside the scope of a federal government, thank you FDR for exploding the role of the government into areas it doesn't belong, now all the generations after you grew up with that mindset and don't know any better way.

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    9. Re:WTF by Cwix · · Score: 1

      Cause some of the "liberal mainstreet media" does it, doesn't mean republicans don't do it also.

      Next time, be a (wo)man and post logged in also. It seems the majority of the right's talking points come from ACs around here.

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    10. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hold on one second and let me do this math.

      market collapse (1929 crash) + government bailout (new deal) = government owned by markets (republicrat corruption)

      huh?

    11. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cause some of the "liberal mainstreet media" does it, doesn't mean republicans don't do it also.

      Next time, be a (wo)man and post logged in also. It seems the majority of the right's talking points come from ACs around here.

      That would be a fair point, except the Republicans weren't a topic of discussion until you brought them up. Rupert Murdoch is a completely orthogonal point to the discussion at hand, and irrelevant to the matter that the Democratic party is amenable to media monopolies.

    12. Re:WTF by Cwix · · Score: 1

      If AC blames the democrats, I don't have a right to point out they are not the only ones? Start at the top of the thread and re read.

      If someone makes it partisan, I reserve the right to tell they they are being a hypocrite.

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    13. Re:WTF by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      Yes we [could've]!

      [No] we [didn't]!

    14. Re:WTF by I8TheWorm · · Score: 2

      Please don't be an apologist (for him or any other politician). He's a politician and always has been. He'll cave to PACs as quickly as the next guy.

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    15. Re:WTF by I8TheWorm · · Score: 0

      pecosdave for President!

      (no, that wasn't sarcasm)

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    16. Re:WTF by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1, Troll

      Here's a post from someone that's logged in.

      Anyone who thinks Dems are better than Reps or Reps are better than Dems is fooling themselves.

      They're ALL politicians, and don't have any interest in what the people actually want.

      Become a PAC and you'll get your voice heard, but not until then.

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    17. Re:WTF by Cwix · · Score: 1

      I agree, all of them have been bought and paid for.

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    18. Re:WTF by poity · · Score: 1

      Wait. Let's try that good ol' Epicurean logical exercise:
      First, we know the POTUS has power to influence the DOJ, which is a part of the executive branch.
      Now check this out...
      Is he willing to prevent dominance of ever-larger corporate entities, but not able? Then he is derelict in his duties.
      Is he able, but not willing? Then he is complicit in corporate malevolence.
      Is he both able and willing? Whence cometh this merger?

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    19. Re:WTF by Genda · · Score: 1

      And why shouldn't they? We've allowed groups of powerful people with billions at their disposal to manipulate our government in earnest since the late 70s. When it now takes over a billion dollars to wage a successful Presidential campaign, who could possibly become president who wasn't first an effective whore. By allowing business to set the rules, set the stage, pick the players, and reshape our entire government into it's own image, we now live in a society that is owned and controlled by the top 0.5% in wealth, and believes there is no need for a middle class. As long as people stare dumbly at the box in their living room and blindly do what it tells them to, we can expect nothing, save a whole lot more of the same.

    20. Re:WTF by Cwix · · Score: 1

      Trust me, I'm the first one bitching about corporations having any say whatsoever in our government.

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    21. Re:WTF by Soggy_Pronoun · · Score: 1

      WTF? I thought the Dems were all about keeping the monopolies from taking over, and then collapsing, as happened in 2008.

      "Democrats" and "Republicans" haven't run anything in the United States for at least a few decades.

      These terms are only used for betting purposes now. Political power belongs to people for whom limiting terms such as "party" or "ideology" have no meaning.

      Today, power is vested with people whose names are not widely known. "Dems" and "Repubs" are little more than handy punching bags that can be blamed for problems so the people in power won't be disturbed.

      By George I think he's got it!

    22. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rule #1: When Republicans are in power, they're evil bastards who cynically run the country for the benefit of big business.

      Rule #2: When Democrats are in power, they're really not responsible for anything, because "Democrat" and "Republican" are meaningless terms.

      Rule #2.1: Alternately, the Democrats are only responding to nefarious charges of being anti-business, so it's really the GOP's fault after all.

    23. Re:WTF by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean it as an apology. I'm merely stating the political influences as I observe them. If the GOP and PAC's can make "business-friendly" an issue in voters' minds, then it will likely affect political decisions. It's just the way the "system" works.

    24. Re:WTF by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1

      But what makes you say GOP and PACs... do you believe PACs don't influence the dems as well?

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    25. Re:WTF by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      My statement didn't state or imply otherwise that I can tell. It is a statement of A and B influencing C, not A influencing B, (Nor did I exclude that possibility, but rather didn't address it.)

      But I do think that business PAC's are the most powerful because they have the most money. (Unions are a semi-distant 2nd.) We are thus partially a de-facto plutocracy.

    26. Re:WTF by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess I inferred since you only mentioned GOP.

      However, I agree with you on plutocracy, except I think we're already there.

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    27. Re:WTF by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Pay attention, the more a company is regulated by the government the more it is bed with the government. It benefits companies to be regulated because they can then pay the politicians that regulate them and staff the regulatory agencies through one avenue or another. This is good for the companies because it sets barriers that established companies can afford to overcome but that new companies cannot eliminating competition. Yes, your formula does represent more or less what happens.

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  2. Yeah baby, way to go Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sweet, I cant wait to see the great programs they have to offer

    1. Re:Yeah baby, way to go Comcast by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      This was modded down, but I couldn't help but smell the faint fumes of sarcasm from the parent's post.

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  3. Awesome. by mirix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One step closer to a single outfit controlling^Wsupplying all your media needs.

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    1. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha. I guess the CCCP had it right after all.

    2. Re:Awesome. by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      One step closer to a single outfit controlling^Wsupplying all your media needs.

      Along with that, it will be interesting to see what happens when Comcast gets Universal Studios along with NBC. I guess it means they'll start suing their own file-sharing customers -- which they won't even have to subpoena the names for. Maybe you'll even just see a charge on your next bill:

      Comcast High Speed Internet Service: $52.99
      Movie Sharing Fee: $25,000.00
      Total due by Feb 8, 2011: $25,052.99

      Thank you for choosing Comcast!

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    3. Re:Awesome. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      One step closer to a single outfit controlling^Wsupplying all your media needs.

      You think this is just about media?

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    4. Re:Awesome. by cosm · · Score: 1

      I don't have a citation, but from what I've read Comcast has some of the shittiest customer service of them all. You get AOL-Time Warner, Comcast-NBC, I'm sure there are others. As the media producers combine with the new-age distribution channels, we are going to get the corporate internet we all dread. Its coming, and Washington isn't going to do a fucking thing about it.

      Its going to be like AOL all over again, except you will have to pay extra for third party email, third party content. Shit--ISP and backbone peering, that will disappear. Traffic shaping will get worse. Protocol throttling. Worse. These are the golden years of the internet, and I dare say that it will only become more degredated as the conglomerates consummate their blood-lust for money. Maybe it will get better.

      Perhaps its time to start and open-source organization for developing a true ad-hoc mech network. Get like an android powered WAN/Router/DNS box, have it link up with other boxes nearby, ad infinitum. Something like that to get 'off the grid'. If enough people (and I mean enough) had them, perhaps we could go back to people run internet, and not corporate run. Granted you would lose much of the benefits of the preexisting infrastructure, but at what point do you have to draw the line instead of just continually taking fees up the ass?

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    5. Re:Awesome. by mysidia · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hm.. no that's too short and readable by a mere mortal.

      There, fixed it for ya..

      Movie Sharing Fee: $200
      Surcharge for IP packets received from competitors networks/websites (Qty: 63,250 packets * $0.003): $189.75
      Surcharge for IP packets sent to competitors networks/websites (Qty: 8,260 packets * $0.03): $247.80
      Surcharge for 100 movie uploads (above sharing allowance): $1.50 * 100: $150
      Surcharge for uploading to off-network users ( 200 * $5) : $1000
      Surcharge for downloading files from off-network users ( 200 * $1) : $200
      Surcharge for viewing websites outside partner network (Qty: 5000 page hits * $0.10) : $500
      Surcharge for accepting TCP connection from off-network user (Qty: 768 TCP connections * $0.40) : $307.20
      Surcharge for HTTPS usage (Qty: 1733 connections * $0.02 ): $34.66
      Surcharge for SSH usage (Qty: 15 unique hosts * $2.50): $37.50
      Surcharge for e-mail to out of network e-mail addresses (Qty: 63 * $1.50) : $94.50
      Surcharge for IRC usage (Qty: 6332 msgs sent/received * $0.05): $316.60
      Surcharge for miscellaneous TCP protocol usage (Qty: 566 connection hours * $0.08) : $45.28
      Surcharge for SIP UDP usage (Qty: 1289 SIP INVITES * 0.15) : $193.35
      Music industry partner sharing charge (Qty: 50 MP3s uploaded * $10) : $500
      Music industry partner download charge (Qty: 14 MP3s downloaded * $5) : $70
      Music industry partner internet radio charge (Qty: 50 songs streamed * $1.50) : $75.00
      Disney.com access surcharge (Qty: 45 page views * $1.25): $56.25
      Pandora.com access surcharge (Qty: 36 hours listening * $60): $2,160
      Youtube.com access surcharge (Qty: 90 videos viewed * $2.50) : $225.00
      Youtube.com access surcharge (Qty: 10 videos viewed with NBC content * $25.00) : $250.00
      Youtube.com access surcharge (Qty: 45 videos "liked" * $0.95) : $42.50
      Youtube.com access surcharge (Qty: 45 videos "disliked" * $0.10) : $4.50
      Youtube.com access surcharge (Qty: 15 comments posted * $3) : $45.00
      Facebook.com access surcharge (Qty: 500 page loads * $0.10): $50
      Facebook.com access surcharge (Qty: 220 status updates submitted * $0.15): $33.00
      Google.com access surcharge (Qty: 240 web searches * $0.75): $180
      Twitter.com access surcharge (Qty: 100 tweets submitted * $1.99) : $199.00
      NyTimes.com access surcharge (Qty: 50 page loads * $0.30) : $15.00
      Mortal soul surcharge: $19784.10
      Finance.yahoo.com access surcharge (Qty: 100 stock charts viewed * $0.45) : $5
      Amazon.com access surcharge (flat fee) : $10
      Timewarner.com access surcharge (flat fee): $30

      Total due by Feb 8, 2011: $25,252.99

      Thank you for choosing Comcast!

    6. Re:Awesome. by shentino · · Score: 1

      The FCC has just been proven to be in bed with the media.

      Do you think for one second they will hesitate to use their spectrum regulating and licensing powers to squeeze out mobile competition like that?

    7. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting you should mention that, because the same thing occurred to me when I read the headline...

      I am a Comcast customer, and will occasionally downloaded an episode of a show if I missed it. This means I probably downloaded 20 or so episodes of different shows over the course of the last 6 months. I have only ever received 2 DMCA notifications: both for NBC shows, in the past couple of months, and not even seeded long. This is particularly surprising as I only downloaded 3 or 4 NBC shows in that time... That's at least a 50% detection rate for NBC, 5% for anybody else. Coincidence? I'm starting to think not...

      P.S. I since stopped watching NBC shows altogether... Yes, I know they put some up on their site, but it never worked for me. Something about not liking Linux or security.

    8. Re:Awesome. by ciabs · · Score: 1

      Don't forget your new domain name: http://comcast.com/~users/underachievement or underachievement.comcast.com whichever you like best.

    9. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      no charge for porn? i approve of this merger!

    10. Re:Awesome. by EdIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mesh Networks, Mesh Networks, Mesh Networks, Mesh Networks!

      *sigh*

      If only it were really that simple. Unfortunately, it isn't. Mesh Networks would suffer from quite a few problems trying to create a 2nd Internet with the infrastructure owned and operated entirely by the people.

      1) Density. If every single person had this magical box fully capable of doing everything we wanted it to do in Los Angeles, it would not be able to communicate with everyone doing it in Las Vegas. There are large patches of dead space in which the only way to get across are dedicated pathways, which shockingly, are expensive. The only difference between the Atlantic ocean and Death Valley is the cost of running of the fiber through it. Other than that, they are pretty much the same as far as networking is concerned.

      2) Bandwidth. We better create a Darknet with distribution principles similar to Freenet. Even then, it will be slow. You just can't take for granted edge network delivery, aka, CDN's like Akamai for granted. If Mesh Network nodes are like little leaves, then it will really suck if the whole network is connected together with twigs and branches. You actually need the ISPs here with their fat ass trunks and peering and transit agreements.

      3) Latency. Another thing you are taking for granted, and probably the worst one to be taking for granted. With CDN, I have seen as little as 4 hops to get to Google. Most places you need to get to will be between 10-15 hops, and a good portion of on fiber. Meaning, pulses of light . That 30-70ms latency you have been enjoying is going to get a lot worse with Mesh Networking. It's just Physics. Remember all the little twigs and branches right? Well to get all the way from one end of Los Angeles to the other I am betting you will be going through dozens of wireless nodes. So on top of being limited the biggest pipe for bandwidth along the route, you are going to be enjoying latencies that make most real time stuff like gaming, voip, etc. impossible.

      Every last mile provider sucks ass. They all do because there really is very little competition. But we need the backbone ISPs like Verizon, AT&T, etc. They are the *only* way we currently have to create an actual functioning Internet with the peering and transit agreements that make the whole darn thing work.

      There is *only* ONE way Mesh Networking can succeed. We must have wireless POPs distributed throughout all of the communities that allow those Mesh Network nodes to connect and send traffic through them that they can't reach, which is going to be a lot more than you think.

      Mesh Networks are a pipe dream. If the government can't get together, or won't get together, to stop shit like this NBC-Comcast merger, then we have no hope at all of getting cities to lay down their own fiber and start operating their own wireless POPs for the citizenry.

      Which is really really really fucking sad . We gave easements to the telecom corporations for years with the understanding they would contribute to the community. Not only have the telcos mostly fucked the people, but now they are gouging the crap out of us. We the people own most of the damned land they run their fiber across. When are we going to start to see a payback on all the leeway and incentives we have given those bastards for decades?

      Why is it that when cities start wanting to put down their own fiber the telcos start crying like little bitches and bring out the lawyers?

      The whole thing just reeks of corruption and oppression at this point. The Internet is dying at this point. It will turn into some sort of pathetic shadow of itself. What I predict will happen is that people will go back to Sneakernet style sharing since storage is getting so massive. At that point it would probably be faster and safer anyways. Not only will the bandwidth be expensive, but anything that is not being paid a premium will be throttled down into something not viable for its purpose. Encryption might not be outlawed, but it will certainly be given lower priority because they can't analyze it and figure out if it is competition to them.

    11. Re:Awesome. by NoisySplatter · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough my city has its own fiber to the home setup. It's astonishingly cheap, reliable, and fast.

      I have a 10Mbps symmetrical internet connection and phone for less than 50 dollars a month. The best part of course is that I get the speed I pay for.

      I do have a 1 terrabit cap, but no mention is made of what happens if I go over it.

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    12. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was what Google was doing?

      One step closer to a single outfit controlling^Wsupplying all your media needs.

    13. Re:Awesome. by zippthorne · · Score: 2

      Needs work: you should disguise those so they look like government fees and/or taxes....

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    14. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1, but pretty naive to think the local governments won't be riding that gravy train!

    15. Re:Awesome. by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Needs work: you should disguise those so they look like government fees and/or taxes....

      That's easy, just replace every instance of 'access surcharge' with 'regulatory fee' and refer to 'sections' of a mythical ISP regulations manual

      Wikileaks.org access, sec 2693.4 regulatory fee: $99,000
      Slashdot.org access, sec 2646.5 regulatory fee: (priceless)

      Amount due: +Infinity$

    16. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would be more believable if you translated those domain names to IP addresses.

    17. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MESH networks are possible. you just need a really really good compression algo.
      (and lots of cpu-power).

    18. Re:Awesome. by Genda · · Score: 1

      This is becoming a strange bone of contention for me... So many folks scream stop taxing me at the Federal Level, move the taxes closer to the local level where they can do the most good. This of course ignores vital national services like the Military, Interstate Highways and Railways, Air Transport and Transportation, National Science and Space Research, and National Infrastructure, or even the problem of equitable distribution of wealth between rich and poor municipalities, but even putting all that aside, I hear other disturbing comments all to frequently.

      People don't want to pay taxes at the State or Local level, any more than they want to pay taxes at the Federal Level. Our nations infrastructure is at the breaking point. Our vital government services are nearing catastrophic failure. In Illinois, gas stations no longer honor state gas vouchers for Highway Patrol Vehicles (they know the state can't pay them.) In California the new Governor just handed the state the new budget and everyone in California is reflexively retching. We finally have a Governor who's honest enough to say if you want it, pay for it, or it goes away. I guess the point here is, at what point does the entire thing go into the toilet, before people get the message, if you want it, you have to pay for it? It doesn't mean let politicians waste it, misuse it, or pocket it. We need to hold our representatives responsible. It does mean if you want schools worth sending kids to, roads that don't rip the wheels off of your car, bridges that don't fall, police and fire departments, or even an end to herds of wandering psychotics walking the street and shooting senators, judges, and innocent children, you need to pay. Tax is only evil when is taken without fair representation of those who are taxed, and succeeds in bringing vital services to those who are taxed.

      As a nation, its time to take the reins back from big business, and religious interests, and greedy self serving individuals who think the nations resources are their personal pantry. Its time to get responsible, choose a future full of those things that we can all agree on, and make those things happen. And yes, that includes paying for them.

    19. Re:Awesome. by Genda · · Score: 1

      This is really simple...

      The Telcos are gouging you because they can... its their job, remember, capitalism... whatever the market will bear?

      Elect officials that will hold the Telcos to account.

      Elect officials interested in building local and statewide large public pipes

      Pass strict laws preventing the Telcos from undermining your plan, because they will see you attacking their profits and go after you and your official like a pack of wolves

      Convince a surprisingly ill informed populace, that what you're doing isn't communist, isn't socialist, and is in their and their children's best interest, and worth paying tax money for.

      Look as long as we live with the best government money can buy, you'll keep getting what you've got (only worse.) The first move is to separate business and state, and enforce the separation between church and state.

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    21. Re:Awesome. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      1 terabit is surprisingly reasonable. that works out to 1/25th of your connection over the entire time of the month. I could deal with that. I pay for the FiOS 25/25 symmetric plan and have never had a single complaint about the speed, and amazingly they haven't hinted at capping the connection yet. Out of curiosity, what city are you located in where they have a city run fiber network? San Francisco?

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    22. Re:Awesome. by NoisySplatter · · Score: 1

      Actually I'm in Lafayette, Louisiana.

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    23. Re:Awesome. by mysidia · · Score: 1

      no charge for porn? i approve of this merger!

      On the internet? That would be like the US government trying to charge for a breath of fresh air.

      Oh wait...

      [*] Alternative scenario 1: Porn? Sorry... that's an un-word. Unclothed pics are outlawwed. Unclothed pics have always been outlawwed. [See 1984/Apple-style censorship... porn is disallowed; it simply does not exist.]

      [*] Alternative scenario 2: Without porn, there would be only a small number of comcast subscribers. What is the number one thing people connect to the internet to do?
      Hint: it's not to watch sports

    24. Re:Awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, get a grip. FFS.

      I really don't care if you can get on my darknet. You're waaaaaay too caught up on the idea of the Mesh Network somehow rivaling today's internet. It won't. Remember your BBS back in the day? Expect that, and be happy with it, chump.

      Maybe we'll let you in on our transmission schemes that are undetectable to all but the most dedicated and time-wasting NSA agents. We use their jams.

      Cheerio!

  4. Fuck It. by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's just start making all our own content and distributing it by sneaker net and avian protocols. I'm tired of every single damn decision going towards funneling more funds and freedom (for abuse) to the megacorps. We'll hire Kenyans drinking powerthirst to be the runners for the sneakernet version of gmail.

    1. Re:Fuck It. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bareback Oboingo is a kenyan.

      People like you need to fuck *miles* of off.

    2. Re:Fuck It. by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

      LMFAO avian protocalls. I've heard of sneakernet but that's funny. +1

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    3. Re:Fuck It. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Informative

      LMFAO avian protocalls. I've heard of sneakernet but that's funny. +1

      Kids these days, don't know nothing.

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    4. Re:Fuck It. by Cwix · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Fuck It. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      My campus has its own internal sharing program DTella. A mashup of DC++ and IRC.

      The source code is open, so you should be able to adapt it to any other subnet. I will take my laptop to campus and find a Gigabit ethernet port a few times a week. Makes me feel I'm living in a first world country. I'll can exceed my "Comcast 250GB Limit" in under an hour. Pondering setting up a dark net in my apartment complex.

    6. Re:Fuck It. by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0

      We'll hire Kenyans

      Not until we get rid of the one living on Pennsylvania Avenue ...

      I KID I KID

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    7. Re:Fuck It. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KENYANS!

    8. Re:Fuck It. by TarPitt · · Score: 1

      Avian protocols?

      Revive canine protocols!

      bring back Fidonet

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    9. Re:Fuck It. by ATMAvatar · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's always best to go to the original source.

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    10. Re:Fuck It. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could use the US Postal Service.

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAH....

    11. Re:Fuck It. by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Dude... RFC1149.

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    12. Re:Fuck It. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      400 hundred Kenyans!

    13. Re:Fuck It. by Philomage · · Score: 1

      I'm usually one for going to the source rather than a third party, but the Wikipedia article includes a link to the RFC fairly early on, and has a lot of additional information that was quite enlightening. (For instance, the link to "Victorian Internet" in the see also links.)

      I think it was a good thing that the Wikipedia article was linked.

      About the only bad thing about going to Wikipedia first was that you got the joke explained to you before you got a chance to experience the ah-ha moment (if you didn't already know what IPoAC was).

  5. Get out of te way! by Aldenissin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Big business coming through!

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    1. Re:Get out of te way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      doesnt the US have anti-trust laws to prevent this kind of thing of happening?

  6. "You're not saying it right Howard, it's... by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    wNNNNbComcast." PigF**&^er

    1. Re:"You're not saying it right Howard, it's... by IBitOBear · · Score: 2

      Its okay to say Pigfarker here, we are on the cable internet...

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    2. Re:"You're not saying it right Howard, it's... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Its craptastic!

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  7. React After the Fact by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    It seems these kinds of excesses are only dealt with after some severe abuse. Even though the potential for abuse is clear, the regulatory approach always starts with vague promises by corporations with spotty histories and some limited, in scope and duration, conditions with questionable enforcement provisions.

  8. the only good stuff on NBC is sports and by NFL ru by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the only good stuff on NBC is sports and by NFL rules that MUST BE FREE OTA.

    2012 the year of the cable only or PPV olympics then in 2014 EPSN or fox get's them.

    NHL moves to ESPN in 2012 and VS becomes a other G4 with crap on it.

  9. Conflict of Interests by intellitech · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't suggest downloading any NBC-related torrents on Comcast.. because you know they'll be watching.

    And, for the record, I don't condone illegal torrents, but I would merely like to point out the large privacy concern this merger presents.

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    1. Re:Conflict of Interests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand wouldn't any adverse reaction (lawsuit) on the part of NBComcast be seen as an illegal use of monopoly?

    2. Re:Conflict of Interests by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 1

      On the other hand wouldn't any adverse reaction (lawsuit) on the part of NBComcast be seen as an illegal use of monopoly?

      Sure. Well, either that or a perfectly legal protection of their intellectual property. I mean, theoretically it could go either way, but my money's on the guys and gals with the money, and that means NBComcast, now more than ever.

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    3. Re:Conflict of Interests by Simon80 · · Score: 1

      There's a (somewhat costly) countermeasure to this, which is to route tracker queries through either https or tor to prevent eavesdropping, and scrape trackers instead of adding your IP address to the swarm (i.e. don't advertise a listen port), to prevent passive monitoring of swarm participants. The cost is that now your client no longer accepts incoming connections, so it can only make outgoing connections. For small torrents or initial seeding, this can be a problem, but for torrents with many peers, there's always enough that accept incoming connections to support everyone else.

    4. Re:Conflict of Interests by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Damn, then you'll have to miss out on all that amazing NBC content, like . . . um . . .

    5. Re:Conflict of Interests by blueg3 · · Score: 1

      Besides seriously damaging BitTorrent, this doesn't help you if they list peers on the tracker you're using. To be fair, they don't need to be associated with Comcast to do that.

      From a legal standpoint, your IP being on a tracker's list is probably only worth them sending you threatening letters demanding a payoff. But then, IANAL, and you probably don't want to deal with that anyway.

    6. Re:Conflict of Interests by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1

      30 Rock!

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  10. Re:Change.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Yes we could've."

  11. And anyone was surprised by this? by areusche · · Score: 1

    I will not be voting D or R this election. I don't care who it is, but it won't be them (tea party isn't a party).

    I have friends who work at Universal, according to HR, "it is quite an exciting time to be working apart of the NBC Universal family."

    Who wants to predict a big round of layoffs in the entertainment industry pretty soon?

    1. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      predict?

      I'd like to HELP accelerate it.

      out of work 'entertainment' folks is what I call good old fashioned JUSTICE.

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    2. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I will not be voting D or R this election.

      What in the world makes you believe that voting means anything? Supposedly, according to the media (and not just the "mainstream media" but ALL media, left-wing, right-wing, blogs, etc) there have been HUGE ideological swings in the parties in power. We've had republicans running everything and democrats running everything but regardless of the rhetoric, the end result is the same. But don't think it's because there are no difference between the parties. No, it's because the parties, the elections, even the government itself is nothing more than the "circuses" part of "bread and circuses". The whole shooting match is nothing but a distraction. Something to make us feel like we're doing something.

      Here you are, puffing out your chest and asserting that "Hell no! I'll not be voting for a Democrat nor a Republican in the next election". And you'll spend time pouring over information, choosing just the right third party or independent candidate who will most closely mirror your worldview. You will march down to the polling place, secure in the belief that you have done some sort of "civic duty". Really, you're passing responsibility from your hands into an invisible system so you can then say "don't blame me, I voted for "X"". The time you spent reading up on the candidates on the issues on the important matters of the day, the time you spent deciding, the time you spent voting will have amounted to nothing. Those in power will not have noticed one bit. It means nothing.

      Polls are taken, published, trumpeted by partisan media. People point and say "See? Most of the country agrees with me!" and it will make you feel as though you are "in the right" that you are connected to something that in some way will effect outcomes. The board of directors at General Electric, at Comcast, are as aware of you, of your dreams, your goals, your complaints, your anger and rage as you are of the bacteria that live in the soil in the dirt in the postage-stamp sized bit of grass in front of your house or apartment.

      When a tiny percentage of the population own virtually everything and forty percent of the population own zero - not one bit of anything why would you think that this "politics" thing, this thing which is done for your entertainment, to keep you amused and engaged like a 2pm game of Bejeweled is actually going to matter to the people in power?

      Geez, I'm a fuckin' ray of sunshine today, ain't I?

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    3. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by maxume · · Score: 1

      Something like 2/3 of the production in America is consumed by the proletariat.

      So sure, there is a they that has a lot, but it becomes a little histrionic to claim that there is a we that has nothing.

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    4. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > it won't be them

      "They" didn't do this. They being Congress (I assume). The FCC did this, and the FCC is not elected by the people. The FCC needs to be reformed or abolished. The tea party looks like its the most likely to take this sort of action. You're right, the tea party isn't a party, that's why tea party candidates run as Republicans.

    5. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Something like 2/3 of the production in America is consumed by the proletariat.

      Consumed using credit provided by the ownership class.

      At some point, they'll just look to cut out the middle "man" (as in "mankind").

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    6. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      I think GP was referring to wealth, not consumption. And in that case, he's reasonable accurate to say that the poorest 40% of Americans have a net worth of no more than $0. The average household savings rate has been negative for much of the last 2 decades, so what would be more surprising is if these families weren't running out of money.

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    7. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by penguin_dance · · Score: 1

      Well...SOMEBODY has to pay for those big reelection bills, don't they?

      And, no, that's not really a joke...

      The vast amount of politicians (and journalists) look on the public as poor, dumb sheeple who can't make it on their own.

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    8. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by areusche · · Score: 1

      You know what, I agree with you. Our votes are useless. At least voting gives me an opportunity to say I tried when the system fails and I grab the rifle with my fellow patriot.

    9. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      relevant:
      http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html

    10. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      <3

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    11. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The vast amount of politicians (and journalists) look on the public as poor, dumb sheeple

      They're just doing what they're being paid to do at work, just like you.

      Don't make it personal, it's not. You are misdirecting your anger.

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    12. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      You know what, I agree with you. Our votes are useless. At least voting gives me an opportunity to say I tried when the system fails and I grab the rifle with my fellow patriot.

      That rifle's only going to get you killed, and maybe your family. Honestly, you're making a big mistake in this kind of thinking.

      You've got to think more strategically. This really is a game where they only way to win is to not play.

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    13. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by maxume · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I got that. A counterpoint to the implied unfairness is that the poor do actually have something, they just happen to need to use it up.

      That doesn't mean I think that wealth distribution in the U.S. is anywhere near fair or that the economic system makes total sense, it just means I don't feel real bad for every single person with no wealth, I've seen enough of them making the choice to consume frivolities now rather than have savings later.

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    14. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm actually too depressed to kill myself now.

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    15. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only you could say that to everyone in this country in a way they would really hear and understand.

    16. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      relevant:
      http://www.molleindustria.org/everydaythesamedream/everydaythesamedream.html

    17. Re:And anyone was surprised by this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Geez, I'm a fuckin' ray of sunshine today, ain't I?" Ratzo, you are always a ray of sunshine. But sometimes you shine where you are not supposed to.

  12. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You really believe that?

  13. Monopolies... by Yaa+101 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is in the interest of governments to allow monopolies, it is much easier to order 1 big entity to cough up certain needed information or to force them to execute the government plans, than a lot of small entities.

    This revolving door between big corporate US and the government (fascism) is starting to be a real burden on the people, all we have to wait for now is government to draw the wrong cards and finding that in reality their power is more and more subdued by the corporates.

    But then, the people lost already 50 years ago when Ike proclaimed his farewell speech, this is just the final stage of that losing battle.

    1. Re:Monopolies... by corbettw · · Score: 3, Informative

      big corporate US and the government (fascism)

      For the love of all that's holy, that's not what fascism is. Fascism is a political philosophy in which the state is the primary component. In a fascist system, there are no true property rights and business owners can lose everything if they are proscribed by a powerful individual.

      Fascism has more in common with communism (they're both totalitarian systems in which the state is the most important element) than collusion between business interests and government. That's more of a mercantilist system.

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    2. Re:Monopolies... by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't bother.

      They have long sense redefined the term.

      Fascism: Anything a liberal doesn't like.

      Communism: Anything a conservative doesn't like. See also Socialism.

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    3. Re:Monopolies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note that Fascism is actually very happy with private ownership. BMW, Mercedes-Benz and so on, did quite nicely out of the Third Reich.

      Quoting from http://en.wikipedia.org/Fascism

      "Fascists tend to support a "third position" in economic policy, which they believe superior to both the rampant individualism of laissez-faire capitalism and the severe control of state socialism.[25][26]"

      Mostly Fascism is about the suppression of discontent that could undermine the 'national interest' and while in theory this can be against private companies, tends only to be against the Labor side of things.

    4. Re:Monopolies... by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      Mussolini would disagree with you.

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    5. Re:Monopolies... by blueg3 · · Score: 1

      Annoyingly, sometimes things that conservatives don't like are also called "fascist".

    6. Re:Monopolies... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Which they will correctly point out was historically socialist in its roots and policies.

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    7. Re:Monopolies... by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>Fascism is a political philosophy in which the state is the primary component. In a fascist system, there are no true property rights and business owners can lose everything, if they are proscribed by a powerful individual.

      So it's China.

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    8. Re:Monopolies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the love of all that's holy, that's not what fascism is. Fascism is a political philosophy in which the state is the primary component.

      Mussolini would disagree with you.

      That's an odd claim to make given that Mussolini described fascism as a political philosophy in which the state is the primary component.

    9. Re:Monopolies... by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

    10. Re:Monopolies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the love of all that's holy, that's not what fascism is. Fascism is a political philosophy in which the state is the primary component. In a fascist system, there are no true property rights and business owners can lose everything if they are proscribed by a powerful individual.

      Dude WAKE UP. That is what we have now!

  14. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its President Obama's agency heads who have signed off on this.

    The President has to be in favor of it.

    So why vote Democrat when they are the ones who do this?

  15. Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems like Obama has betrayed a large fraction of the ideals he stated during his campaign.

    What I'd like to know is, during his campaign, did he...

    (a) Lie about those ideals, never intending to pursue them?

    (b) Tell the truth about what his ideals where, but know he was exaggerating about being able to accomplish all of them?

    (c) Intend to achieve them all, but not realize that he could only chose a handful to push through?

    (d) Once in office (and with access to all classified info), realize that some of his campaign promises were unwise, although he believed them to be wise at the time?

    The answers to these may suggest whether we as citizens need to be more realistic about what's really possible (for example, effective counterintelligence while prosecuting your state torturers), or whether Obama is really just a far worse person than people give him credit for.

    1. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      B...b...but he kept his promises about obscure credit-card reform proposals! Leave Barack alone! It's those evil Republitards who are wrecking this country!!!11!!!

    2. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Beelzebud · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At least I see Democrats and liberals questioning Obama's motives. During Bush's 8 years the Republicans questioned nothing.

    3. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Fast+Thick+Pants · · Score: 1

      Well... "c" and "d" imply that he wasn't lying at all, and we know for a fact that all successful politicians lie, so I'll with "b" since the easiest lie to tell is the one that's rooted in truth. For better or worse, nobody keeps all their campaign promises. Though I do think he (and many others) saw the Democratic majority in the house and senate as somewhat of a free pass, underestimating the strength of the obstructors.

      Even if "d" could be a little true, it certainly doesn't hold much water in this case. Hard to imagine that unifying media control under a small number of conglomerates is somehow keeping "terror" at bay.

    4. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You do? Where? Every liberal I know just sucks up to Obama despite minor things like his failure to close Guantanamo or end Don't Ask, Don't Tell. (What, you thought that was repealed? Check again - it can only be repealed two months after Congress votes that it "won't effect troop readiness." Guess what the chances of that happening are.)

      Likewise all the liberals supporting Obamacare despite clear evidence from Massachusetts that the parts they did pass will only raise costs and lower actual coverage. The number of people in Massachusetts who have no access to a regular doctor and must instead seek all their care through the emergency room SKYROCKETED thanks to the very things Obamacare does.

      Yet the one thing that could have actually helped lower costs (single payer, tort reform - the vast majority of health care costs are red tape) - Obama cut.

      So, yeah. Where are all the liberals questioning him?

      Hell, the liberals are still blaming Palin for the Giffords shooting, despite the fact that we now know that the shooter was a radical liberal!

    5. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1, Insightful

      During Bush's 8 years the Republicans questioned nothing.

      At least regarding the invasion of Iraq, the "Patriot" Act, etc., you didn't see many Democrats question him much either. At least not publicly.

    6. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like Obama has betrayed a large fraction of the ideals he stated during his campaign.

      What I'd like to know is, during his campaign, did he...

      (a) Lie about those ideals, never intending to pursue them?

      (b) Tell the truth about what his ideals where, but know he was exaggerating about being able to accomplish all of them?

      (c) Intend to achieve them all, but not realize that he could only chose a handful to push through?

      (d) Once in office (and with access to all classified info), realize that some of his campaign promises were unwise, although he believed them to be wise at the time?

      The answers to these may suggest whether we as citizens need to be more realistic about what's really possible (for example, effective counterintelligence while prosecuting your state torturers), or whether Obama is really just a far worse person than people give him credit for.

      I actually make it a point not to tune into talk radio during my commute, or to Fox News while at home. But my nonchalance has gone unpunished; I can get all the carefully fact-checked news and analysis about Obama just by logging into Slashdot.

    7. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Beelzebud · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure what liberals you're referring to, but every liberal I know is still pissed off about the public option being taken out of health care reform. Same goes for Guantanamo still being open. Take a serious look at dailykos, firedoglake, or crooksandliars and you'll find plenty of liberal criticism of Obama. As to liberals "still" blaming Palin for the Giffords shooting, I challenge you to show me one example of a liberal blog blaming her for it. I challenge you! Give me an example. Palin has whined about this for a week, acting like she's the victim, and yet I haven't seen one single person blame her for it.

    8. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by blackraven14250 · · Score: 2

      The shooter wasn't a radical liberal, as you call him. He had no known political affiliation, and had copies of both Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto, which implies he was extremely confused about politics, if anything.

    9. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by corbettw · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know, you see a lot of false dichotomies these days. But it's not often one gets to see a true, blue false trichotomy. So thank you for that.

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    10. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      You know, you see a lot of false dichotomies these days. But it's not often one gets to see a true, blue false trichotomy. So thank you for that.

      I was trying to enumerate all of the plausible explanations I could think of for why Obama failed to fulfill core campaign promises.

      I wasn't trying to provide a logically closed set of alternatives.

    11. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by artor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Can you be specific about which ideals he's gone back on?

      Here's a summary of the ones I know of, based on Politifact:

      1) Stimulus package. Passed, and current estimated at having added 3.5M jobs to the economy.
      2) Raise taxes for people making over $250k/year. He ultimately caved rather than let the GOP cut off unemployment checks to millions of people.
      3) Health care reform. Done, though lacking the public option he had touted on the campaign trail. He tried to get it, but ultimately Lieberman and a few others wouldn't budge.
      4) Keep lobbyists out of the system for at least two years from their last job. I don't know how, or if, he ever intended to do that one. Oddly, he mainly talked about it after he was elected. Maybe he just really didn't understand how DC works...
      5) Establish consumer credit safeguards. Done (for credit cards, mortgages, and student loans).
      6) Allow bankruptcy courts to modify predatory mortgages. He tried, but it got voted down in the House. Badly.
      7) Cap and trade. Filibustered to death in the Senate.
      8) Immigration reform. Hasn't really been addressed. The DREAM act was by no means comprehensive reform.
      9) Increase investment in science and technology. Considering he's increased science budgets by around $75 billion over the past two years, I'd say he's stuck by that one.
      10) Repeal DADT. Done.
      11) More transparency in the government. He has stood by that one, just not to the extent that most people on Slashdot want. "More transparency" doesn't mean putting Assange in charge of the NSA. You can now find freely available audits on the use of the stimulus funds, for example. Good luck tracing the TARP money sent out under Bush.
      12) Net Neutrality. Let's be honest. While this is probably the top of Slashdot's agenda, it's likely the bottom of his. He hasn't touched the issue much one way or the other.

      So of the top 12, there are 3 that he hasn't really tried to accomplish: Cutting down on lobbying, reforming immigration, and net neutrality. I'd say telling the truth 75% of the time is remarkably good for a politician, pathetically low as that standard may be.

    12. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why limit your examples to liberal blogs?

      http://www.irishtimes.com/cartoons/turner/2011/0112/12.jpg

    13. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can you be specific about which ideals he's gone back on?

      Here's a pretty good list: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

      The ones I especially care about are:

      No. 234: A five-day reading period for proposed legislation.

      No. 491: Provide an annual report on "state of our energy future"

      No. 517: Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN

      No. 518: Create a public option health plan for a new National Health Insurance Exchange.

      No. 525: Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year

      Also, from this list: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=91286

      Probably the most important to me is #10: greater government transparency.

      And from John Stewart: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/01/08/jon-stewart-bashes-obamas-broken-campaign-promises : Closing Gitmo within a year of his campaign promise being made.

      It's also interesting to note the things which I felt he'd promised, but which PolitiFact (which I generally trust) has no record of:

      • An end to warrantless wiretapping by the NSA.
      • Prosecution of CIA torturers.

      It would seem that I confused the general image he projected with actual promises on some important issues.

    14. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by fl_litig8r · · Score: 0

      I think you're forgetting the most important promise he broke: CHANGE. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    15. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or researching. I don't have copies of either (I think... I have a lot of books though) but I hardly think reading thoughts from people with different opinions shows that the reader is confused.

      Marx I don't really have an excuse for not having a copy of, but the only notable thing I've heard about Mein Kampf was how rambling and incoherent it was if you read it critically.

    16. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately for Obama, most people interpreted change to mean revolution.

    17. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > At least regarding the invasion of Iraq, the "Patriot" Act, etc., you didn't see many Democrats question him much either. At least not publicly.

      So those protests about the Iraq war were not public? Cindy Sheehan was protesting a very long time ago.

      Just because *you* didn't see them in the news....

    18. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Uh no. Democrats in Congress talked bad about him endlessly. Of course, they voted for it, then bashed him for pushing it through or whatever. But yes, Democrats did question him while he was in office.

    19. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by antdude · · Score: 1

      All presidents and other officials are like this. Show me one who promised stuff.

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    20. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by haruchai · · Score: 3, Funny

      Considering that he had both a firearm and a red thong and photographed himself with both, he clearly had Republican leanings. And, he'll be leaning over in jail for a long time. With that shaved head, and an extra 100 pounds, he'd be like Cartman come to life.

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    21. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems you weren't reading very much right-wing press. Bush was not very popular on the right, he was seen as a lesser of evils. He was disliked for the Medicare bill, for no-child-left-behind, for being naive about spreading democracy, for his "compassionate conservatism", and (less frequently) for his lack of curiosity. They were questioning him for different reasons and on different issues than you would, but they were questioning him.

      Yes of course congressional Republicans weren't challenging him much, but congressional Democrats aren't challenging Obama much either.

    22. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Shadowmist · · Score: 1

      Obama made no promises regarding net neutrality. Besides he's now in the Triangulation phase of his Clintonian Presidency.

    23. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Stimulus package. Passed, and current estimated at having added 3.5M jobs to the economy.

      At a future cost of how many $trillions?
      And how much of that money was spent on actual, USEFUL things instead of "broken window" stuff and other bullshit?

      9) Increase investment in science and technology.

      Yeah, and who cares about NASA funding...?

      11) More transparency in the government. He has stood by that one,

      Which president has denied the most FOIA requests?
      Which distinguished gentleman from Illinois voted for FISA 2008?
      How about signing statements? (you know, those things which don't go through the checks and balances)
      Or ACTA?
      Or the groping by the TSA?

      So of the top 12, there are 3 that he hasn't really tried to accomplish

      Even the things he "tried for" (using that term loosely) - he should not be making promises for things he has no control over.
      Then there are the big things he does have control over like Iraqistan (which is going according to the Bush timetable).

      But hey, I'm on /. criticizing the messiah of hope and change, please mod me to oblivion.

    24. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 2

      To be honest, quite a few on that list were obviously a wish list with a snowball's chance in hell of coming true (either because of legislative opposition or logistic impossibility):
      * Gitmo cannot close any time soon. We don't know what to do with who's there.
      * An entire bill being debated on C-SPAN from start to finish, where the bill goes beyond someone's birthday being acknowledged.
      * a health plan that includes anything smelling like a national health care system. America isn't ready for it.
      * Prosecution of anybody doing possibly, but not obviously illegal and unsavory things in the Bush administration
      * roll-back of anything tagged "National Security"
      * keeping lobbyists out of government
      * immigration reform.

      The only items where I'm profoundly disappointed because he clearly has a different opinion on that matter is Net Neutrality and copyright enforcement. These are items that aren't political lightning rods and where the president has a lot of influence, but he chose to do The Wrong Thing (TM).

      Anyone who can't see either a difference between him and Bush Jr or a standard Republican is lying to him/herself.

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    25. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the answer is :(e) all of the above (depending on what issue he is talking about)
      My favourite one is about How He, Obama "will pull out all of our troops from Iraq within 6 months, if elected." (example of (a) )

      Democracy is not about voting for the most smartest, wisest, sincere, honest, eligible man for the job. It is about voting for the man/woman who *appears* to be the most smartest, wisest, sincere, honest, eligible man for the job. Why else would movie stars be deemed to be the best to run a state(Arnold Schwaznaeger) or a country(Ronald Reagan).
      This is exactly why Obama makes such a great politician. He's charismatic, confident, eloquent, and makes use of simplistic slogans ("Yes, We can!") to charm the masses. All the textbook ingredients needed to get into power.

      Obama just said what he had to get elected. (Which is what all modern-day politicians do)
      Does'nt mean that that is what he will end up doing.

    26. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1

      As to liberals "still" blaming Palin for the Giffords shooting, I challenge you to show me one example of a liberal blog blaming her for it. I challenge you! Give me an example. Palin has whined about this for a week, acting like she's the victim, and yet I haven't seen one single person blame her for it.

      David Gregory, host of Meet the Press, was blaming violent conservative rhetoric for the shooting on his show this past Sunday. He's not quite a blogger, but I think he's important enough for Palin to be mad that he's blaming her for it.

    27. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by fulldecent · · Score: 1

      1) Failed, http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-creates-640329-jobs-at-cost-of.html
      2) Great
      3) Failed, unconstitutional
      4) Failed
      5) Good, maybe http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/12/AR2011011205565.html
      6) Failed
      7) Failed
      8) Failed
      9) Good
      10) Good
      11) How about the biggest part of the US government, the banks? Failed
      12) Failed

      Believe is something you do before the fact. Since we're past all that, now we can judge. Please be more objective.

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    28. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Beelzebud · · Score: 1

      David Gregory is a liberal? I don't see where he blamed Sarah Palin there either, or do you honestly think using violent metaphors are great in politics? Amazing. A week's worth of whining from this woman, and you couldn't come up with ONE freaking example of all of this blame being dumped on her.

    29. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      Fighting for peace is like fucking for chastity

      Why would you say that? Fighting for peace is a short-term investment in violence to curb longer-term violence. I.e., stopping the Axis in WWII probably prevented drawn-out wars in North and South America and Australia.

      In contrast, "fucking for chastity" is unlikely to be any kind of investment in longer-term chastity.

      It sounds like you're trying to make an argument against any kind of war, but your argument doesn't seem very valid to me.

    30. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1

      David Gregory is a liberal?

      Palin was complaining about the media, and not liberal bloggers specifically. David Gregory is part of the media, right?

      I don't see where he blamed Sarah Palin there either

      His question was about the angry violent conservative rhetoric that caused this event. He didn't mention Palin by name this time, because the media has been painting the Tea Party, a group in which Palin is at least an important figure, as a group of angry violent conservatives. The reference clearly was meant to include Palin.

      or do you honestly think using violent metaphors are great in politics?

      Yeah, actually, I do. I have no problem with a political party "targeting" a moderate for electoral defeat by someone more ideologically to their liking. (Hint: Both sides were targeting Giffords' district for the next election.) I also have no problem with a quarterback "targeting" a receiver for a pass, GCC allowing you to specify "target" architectures to compile your programs for, or the Target department store chain.

      Amazing. A week's worth of whining from this woman, and you couldn't come up with ONE freaking example of all of this blame being dumped on her.

      Well, I kind of showed an example of what she was complaining about, not your strawman. But other than that, yeah.
      By the way, I didn't realize how far up in this thread you were the OP. If I had, I would have taken issue with your assertion that

      During Bush's 8 years the Republicans questioned nothing.

      Sure they did. They questioned why he was too liberal on some issues. They didn't like his immigration reform attempt and they wanted him to spend like the fiscal conservative they thought he was. Similarly, the liberals who are mad at Obama want him to be more liberal.

    31. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Soggy_Pronoun · · Score: 1

      They are called "Campaign Promises" it's pretty well understood that a lot, if not most are going to be broken in some way or another.

    32. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      "liar, weak, or naive"

      Of course I have no proof of this, but option 4: Shortly after taking the oath, men in black suits from various powerful governmental and non-governmental agencies and business come meet with him:) What they reveal either makes him change his mind, or ties his hands.

      But if you compare Obama historically, he hasn't been much better or much worse than most presidents. Two years in, and his promises kept are 26%, and promises broken at 8%.

      Every time something happens we don't like, it is blamed on Obama. To be fair, same with Bush when he was in power. But there is one major difference from the last few presidencies and this one: The number of filibusters, blocks of cloture (or threats thereof). See this graph. Republicans intentionally screwed his agenda for the entire 2 years, and then had a ton of legislation pass right at the end of the session (before xmas).

      Since we will likely never know his true thinking, I choose to personally believe that he, and most candidates in general, make "promises" not so much as a real promise, but as a declaration saying "If I get my way, this is what will happen". It would make a pretty annoying political speech if every promise/declaration had to be prefaced by "Well, assuming we control congress, and assuming I currently know all the details about X, and and and...":)

    33. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by mad_clown · · Score: 1

      You know. Except for all those Republicans who did. But clearly you weren't paying much attention.

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    34. Re:Obama: liar, weak, or naive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say he is responsible for repeal of DADT ??? Not even close if anything he stayed away from it and not allowing the government to appeal the various court ruling and or filing various anti DADT rulings.

      He may want to take credit but it was over his dead body it got past.

      Obama is a typical politician. He speaks out two sides of his mouth at the same time.

      He also refused to distance himself from his church's rabid homephobia. THAT my friend is hypocracy. If he at least stood up and said no thanks to the church's stance maybe but he sat down and said nothing.
       

  16. Leno better watch out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first time he's late with his CATV bill they'll cancel his show.

    1. Re:Leno better watch out by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I'm curious if Comcast will block Conan now that they own the competitor...

  17. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    leader of their party...

    ...appointed the current FCC chairman and is responsible for the D majority of the FCC.

    leader of their party...

    ...is the largest recipient of Hollywood campaign contributions in the history of US politics, and is about to embark on a $1E9+ re-election effort. NBCCOMCA$T? No Problem!

    Keep drinking the anti-republican cool-aid, numpty. It's helping a lot. But for wise folk such as you we'd really be messed up. Quick, everyone mod this brilliant mofo way the hell up!

  18. YAY by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    now I will have to get the darn near 80$ a month package to watch ... um ... hm the office or 30Rock? nah that is on hulu, um ... some football games like with ESPN and Monday night football?

    awesome! thank you very fucking much comcast. If I can manage to afford it can you bother to actually hook the crap up without me rescheduling you 4 times cause your retard operator wrote down apartment 101 even though I TYPED 901 in your website? or is that too much bother?

    1. Re:YAY by SETIGuy · · Score: 1

      now I will have to get the darn near 80$ a month package to watch ... um ... hm the office or 30Rock? nah that is on hulu,

      You mean it was on hulu. Now it will be on comcast.com for Comcast subscribers, or you can pay the $5 an episode at itunes.

    2. Re:YAY by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      oh yea Xfinity, something I dont get cause I just have basic

      thanks for reminding me

      comcast, I got somewhere you can stick your xfinity! bend over and Ill show you =)

  19. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

    While the Republicans have certain ideological commitments to "free market" (i.e. free for the incumbents) content creation and distribution, the Democrats just get too much in campaign contributions to let this sort of thing fall apart. You'd be better off pushing for public financing of elections, or organizing your friends into a cadre of nutty "patriots" who show up at town hall meetings with rifles and threaten "second amendment remedies" to the problems of media consolidation.

    Of course, as long as the only people who care about media consolidation are the Clearasil posse, and pissy libertarians who refuse to vote for the major parties, expect no change on this front.

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  20. Bill baby, Bill! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    ...was heard from some exec's top floor corner office.

    think of the lawyer on the simpson's episode who stood up on his desk to do a dance when apu's wife wanted to file for divorce. yes, the guy who looked like the animal who stole her chickens back in india.

    PARTY TIME for our cable overlords.

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  21. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    voting?

    how cute. someone who still thinks there is a connection between the will of the people and those in charge.

    for your 15th birthday, I'll get you the video game of your choice.

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  22. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *was* opposed. He isn't now.

  23. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Vote neither. Either vote third party, or stop voting at all. At least that way your hands are clean of this bullshit.

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  24. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

    How about stop voting for either?

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  25. And we are surprised why? by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really, the Obama Administration has been just a continuation of the Bush Administration. Every time they have had a choice, they have chosen to keep the status quo and to continue to favor large business. This is no exception. The only change we got is in the last name of the POTUS.

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    1. Re:And we are surprised why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doesn't matter what administration is in power...

      With the job-market $#!tstorm happening all over the country...can't you imagine this scenario going down?

      The Prez: "Yo Big Biz, we're tired of your shenanigans"
      Big Biz: "Well we're just going to take our jobs, money, and intellectual properties elsewhere"

      If Obama lets that happen, then you get headlines like "President refuses to work with businesses; loses millions in revenue, thousands of jobs"

      If he does work with them, then you get "President approves tax breaks for big businesses, industries continue to run rampant!"

      All you get out of either outcome is the blame game and finger pointing. Big Business is too powerful now, it was too powerful eons ago, and it will continue to be so in the future because they have the ability to manipulate and control anything in their way (with enough money).

    2. Re:And we are surprised why? by corbettw · · Score: 1

      I so wish I had some mod points to throw your way. Anyone who thinks there's a perceptible difference between Bush and Obama is frankly blinded by partisanship.

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    3. Re:And we are surprised why? by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the first name is different too.

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    4. Re:And we are surprised why? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the first name is different too.

      Astute observation, for sure.

      That said, we tend to refer to it as the "(last name) administration" or "(last name) white house". Really the first name is pretty unimportant. :)

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    5. Re:And we are surprised why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But...but....he's the most liberal fascist kenyan communist anti-american president we've ever had! What do you mean he's just continuing all the same policies of our last and great conservative republican evangelical capitalist lower-taxes big-military big-corp president? That can't be right, can it?

    6. Re:And we are surprised why? by maxume · · Score: 2

      One's a formerly drunk Texan. The other is a formerly high Hawaiian with slightly darker skin.

      Is a difference is it not?

      Of course you meant policy, but if you really think they are exactly the same there, I don't see much point in trying to convince you otherwise (I do see the parallels in an aggressive strategy in the middle east and in not taking a hilarious hard line with big business though).

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    7. Re:And we are surprised why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ridiculous focus on the presidency is just there to take focus off the Houses.

    8. Re:And we are surprised why? by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Really? I must have missed Bush's enthusiasm for ending DADT on the side of inclusion, comprehensive healthcare reform and banking system overhaul.

      The President has been a disappointment in some respects, but those issues alone are pretty substantial and quite different from anything that Bush was willing to do.

    9. Re:And we are surprised why? by bogjobber · · Score: 1

      What about the credit and health care reforms? Not saying that big business didn't have a huge role in crafting that legislation, but it's hardly keeping with the status quo.

      And it was pretty obvious even on the campaign trail that he was going to be a "big business" type of president. The guy raised a huge amount of money, and even his stated campaign views were pretty obviously in favor of corporate interests (which makes the calls of socialism even more ridiculous).

    10. Re:And we are surprised why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the prez could say, "You ain't takin' no money nowhere, and your intee-lect-ual prah-per-tee has just become public domain. So siddown an' shaddup!"

  26. What about the SEC? by RobinEggs · · Score: 1

    Is Justice the final word on mergers? I thought the SEC and other financial watchdogs had to sign off on mergers like this, and not just the FCC or DOJ.

    1. Re:What about the SEC? by oldhack · · Score: 1

      FTC and DOJ deal with anti-trust issues. And FCC because it's com industry. SEC deals with security/financial market bizwax.

      It's all theoretical, though. Bribed appropriately, they will be induced to jump in for turf fight.

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  27. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by countSudoku() · · Score: 2

    It's both, you pinheads! When are you douchebags going to wise up to the fact that the Democrats AND Republicans are both full of shit, corrupt entities? The right vs. left "fight" is only a diversion to keep you from noticing that the corporations continue to bribe, I mean, lobby their point home with tons of cash for anyone willing to vote their way? You think your vote does anything useful? You're fooling yourself. You think the Tea Party is going to be any different? Good luck, citizens. The corporations call all the shots in this "democracy." Nothing has changed, only the leanings to garner your waste of a vote. Whoever controls the house and senate are meaningless, because they vote the way the corporations tell them to vote. Period.

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  28. Don't worry ! The free market will save us! by Haedrian · · Score: 1

    Any minute now...

    Tum Te Tum.

    1. Re:Don't worry ! The free market will save us! by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the free market. We should give that a try sometime, see how it goes. It couldn't be worse than what we have now, which is a market that lives and dies by regulatory capture.

    2. Re:Don't worry ! The free market will save us! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any minute now...

      Tum Te Tum.

      It is hard to say free market when the govt has their hands in it. Bailing out large failing corporations kinda does away with the whole free market idea.

  29. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by monkyyy · · Score: 0

    3rd party, or nothing; there r more then the 2 and they airnt already corrupt so at lest a year of pure public interest

    btw pirate party USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  30. Without the paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems odd to buy NBC, considering how poor they've been doing and how utterly incapable they've been on developing new shows. What does it matter if Comcast owns NBC, if NBC has nothing anybody wants? I write that as someone whose only sitcom-viewing is NBC Thursday nights, though I don't like them enough to pay their ridiculously high iTunes price (showing that even without Comcast, their approach towards online sales is severely self-sabotaging).

    So, really, NBC has pretty much no good new content, and old content isn't worth much online since whatever that's old and gets eyeballs is syndicated ad nauseum. What can we realistically expect from this? Is Comcast really going to start pushing NBC content down the throats of their ISP subscribers, even when it makes most of them throw up?

    1. Re:Without the paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it you haven't heard of hulu yet? tsk, tsk.

    2. Re:Without the paranoia by SETIGuy · · Score: 1

      Hulu will disappear once NBC and the other Comcast properties pull their content. Soon it will be comcast.com for Comcast subscribers and a pay-per-episode model for everyone else.

    3. Re:Without the paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Hulu and Netflix, but I'd buy some of the shows even though I can watch them free online. For one, at-home internet always has some the occasional outages -- whether I'm in SF, NYC, or the bumfuck midwest -- and for another, I travel a fair amount and would rather buy episodes or movies I think are re-watchable than spend the same amount to rent something in-flight or rent an internet connection in-flight.

  31. Been there . . . by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    . . . heard that. Remember when GE made TVs? Remember when they made other TV equipment (post RCA, per-RCA re-aquisition) like TV cameras, too? Remember when they owned Universal Studios, too? Remember when pundits said GE was going to control the airwaves (as they did when they first owned RCA) and the minds of America? Now, who is selling NBC to Comcast?

    1. Re:Been there . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GE didn't have a granted monopoly on the broadcast medium in many localities, comcast does. I don't for a second believe this alone will make them "rule everything"...but this will definitely cause things like a "bittorrent surcharge" to start showing up on comcast bills, this also makes it so NBC can directly spy on all of comcast's internet users to send out even more ridiculously expensive lawsuits.

    2. Re:Been there . . . by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      GE/NBC/MSNBC spent tons of money and pundit time getting Obama Elected, so this must be the payback they were looking for, to dump the network and the only company big enough and positioned enough to acquire NBC(Universal) is Comcast.

      The FCC and SEC had to pretty much agree to it, in spite of the objections of people worried about media control. Soon as I saw the proposal, I knew it would go through.

      And people think there is a difference between (R) and (D). Meh

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    3. Re:Been there . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a GE LCDTV I built it myself before they shutdown the venture very very good quality too.
      http://www.ge.com/hdtv

  32. a short summary by JonySuede · · Score: 1

    This is fucking bad !

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  33. Fuuuuuuuuu... by Datamonstar · · Score: 1

    ...ck. That about sums up my thoughts.

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  34. Re:Change.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to wake up folks. Here's the spoiler alert on the Big Conglomerates' evil plans:

    1) Buy off all major media outets
    2) Widen the party divide through sensationalist stories from aforementioned media outlets
    3) Convince the average Joe that a vote for will make a difference by keeping those damned out of office!
    4) Buy off whoever wins.
    5) Enact laws that favor Big Corporations
    6) If Big Conglomerates control all branches of Government, Goto 7, else Goto 2
    7) Profit

  35. Pretty sad by ecorona · · Score: 2

    Anybody who truly understands the details of what transpired here and who has at least a shred of respect for the truth understand we live in a Kleptocracy.

  36. To whome is may concern by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Weren't you one of the slashdot guys telling us how great the FCC would be at regulating the internet?

    We told you that the FCC had no intention of promoting net neutrality, but you didn't fucking listen. The FCC then put forth bullshit neutrality rules that not enforce neutrality.

    Now the FCC is condoning the creation of a real neutrality problem (not just one you fucking imagined.)

    Are you ready to concede, that the FCC should not to be in charge of regulating the internet? ..or do you need the FCC to fuck you over a couple more times before you will listen?

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    1. Re:To whome is may concern by SETIGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are you ready to concede, that the FCC should not to be in charge of regulating the internet? ..or do you need the FCC to fuck you over a couple more times before you will listen?

      You are drawing exactly the wrong conclusion. In this case, the FCC is letting Comcast fuck us over. If the FCC is not in charge of regulating the internet, everyone with money and power will be able to fuck us over. At least with net neutrality regulation, they'll at least have to ask the FCC before they do it. It's not the best possible world, but it's better than the one we get without net neutrality.

    2. Re:To whome is may concern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prey your low numbered /. account gets destroyed by bad karma

    3. Re:To whome is may concern by Rockoon · · Score: 0

      At least with net neutrality regulation, they'll at least have to ask the FCC before they do it. It's not the best possible world, but it's better than the one we get without net neutrality.

      I am going to be extremely fucking rude here, because you fuckers dont' fucking get it.

      You got your precious fucking FCC net neutrality regulations. THEY PASSED THEM. They had nothing to fucking do with net neutrality.

      The FCC hasn't done shit for net neutrality. Which fucking part of that don't you fucking get?
      To the FCC, "Net Neutrality" is just a fucking label to be used to fuck YOU over.

      Why are you so fucking stupid? We fucking told you that the FCC was going to fuck you over and since we did that they have done so twice. Which fucking part of that don't you fucking get?

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    4. Re:To whome is may concern by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

      What does the FCC not regulating the merger of two companies have to do with how it is regulating the internet? And why do you think that companies will fuck you over less than the FCC?

      Someone needs his meds back.

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    5. Re:To whome is may concern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which fucking part of that don't you fucking get?

      The part that says "fucking".

    6. Re:To whome is may concern by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      Why are you so fucking stupid? We fucking told you that the FCC was going to fuck you over and since we did that they have done so twice. Which fucking part of that don't you fucking get?

      Your pointless nerd rage is what we don't get. I'll be the first to admit the FCC net neutrality rules leave a lot to be desired-especially with regards to mobile devices. However, you are turnip-truck naive if you don't think that large media companies aren't already fucking you over. Remember Comcast and Sandvine? How about their antics in stacking the public FCC hearing? Which would you rather have controlling the internet? Comcast or the FCC? Remember, nature abhors a vacuum.

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    7. Re:To whome is may concern by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      What would you replace the FCC with?

      With the natural and granted monopolies (for example, ast mile lines and over the air bandwidth), I don't think you can escape some sort of agency, who is outside of the market, regulating those monopolies.

  37. NBC sports by SETIGuy · · Score: 1

    2012 the year of the cable only or PPV olympics then in 2014 EPSN or fox get's them.

    I've been wondering for quite a while anyone would watch the Olympics. Are they really that interested in how much the death of the bronze medal winner's great grandmother affected his childhood? I really don't care if Michael Phelp's socks make his feet itch. Personally I hope that they go PPV and nobody pays.

    1. Re:NBC sports by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I like watching the olympics for the sports. I hate that the only thing that makes it on TV are the events Americans are likely to medal in and even though 90% of the actual competitions aren't televised, we get hours and hours about dead grandmothers and socks.

      Getting random sports with no commentary would be much better than what we get now. The worst thing that ever happened to US sports was John Madden.

    2. Re:NBC sports by kevinmenzel · · Score: 1

      I really enjoyed Canada's coverage - although the television coverage was worse than usual (commercial networks seem pretty terrible at managing to show as much of everything as possible on ad-supported networks) - but the online coverage was amazing. Live streaming of EVERY event without commentary, and some commentary if it happened to be airing on TV because there was also live streaming of all the TV feeds. (not to mention the ability to rewind and access past events... not sure for how long, but a good while anyway)

  38. Re:Change.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Executive authority over the DoJ? I don't think the U.S. government works the way you think it works.

  39. Re:Change.... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Obama is the President, he has executive authority over the DoJ, does he not?

    NBC is General Electric. They have authority over everything.

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  40. NEWSFLASH! FCC makes unilateral decision by IBitOBear · · Score: 1

    with business concerns in mind but without concern to the citizenry!

    Regulatory Capture of the FCC is kind of a given at this point.

    The Worshipers of the Grand Free Market (except where the tariffs and controls prevent others from competing with the Grand Free Established and Entrenched) are full force and full on in genesis of this decay.

    Sure the FCC makes stupid token actions in terms of the indecency of seeing aging female nipple or any male appendage over the airwaves to keep the proles feeling "protected" from the evils of the flesh (and coincidentally bolstering the closed and captured pay-per-view and [ahem] "premium-package providers" in the cash), but beyond that token public good with its fully coincidental cash windfall to the cable companies, it should surprise nobody that the FCC demonstrates purient action in favor of its corporate owners.

    No need for a conspiracy theory here. Money talks, unfunded speech doesn't even get a "protest zone" for the President of the United States.

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  41. Re:Who's Pete? by masterwit · · Score: 2

    Personally I think both "sides" are bad.

    ...but at least the leader of their party was opposed to this!

    In my opinion, if someone is against it...well saying something and doing something are two different things. I think it is apathy that is to blame. Too many (non tech-"savy") people just say they really do not care that much. Apathy, hell we know those lobbyists are very motivated people. The other problem is ignorance, I mean the internet is a series of tubes right?

    ...kicking apart hopes for protection against 'pipes and their water' frameworks.

    Oh right, pipes. Also from the article:

    ...the Federal Communications Commission determined the deal was in the nation's public interest...

    But having just The Washington Post opinion really is just that. Let's go to the source...
    Here are the statements: 1 2 3 4
    The news release isn't much better as when reading down to each individual bullet point, I see many comments for "protecting online video", but video is not the only concern!

    Offers its video programming to legitimate OVDs on the same terms and
    conditions that would be available to an MVPD.

    Send chills down your back when you consider the implications of statements like that, doesn't it?
    Quote from link 1 above:

    The conditions include carefully considered steps to ensure that competition drives
    innovation in the emerging online video marketplace.

    A nice disclaimer at the front of link 3 above (joint approval):

    However interesting and intricate the issues raised by the combination of Comcast and
    NBCU may be, as a matter of law, our role at the Commission is limited to ensuring that the
    transaction complies with all applicable statutory provisions, such as ensuring that the license
    transfers are in the public interest. Our analysis should only include a thorough examination of
    the potential benefits and harms of the transaction. Any proposed remedies should be narrow
    and transaction specific, tailored to address particular anti-competitive harms. License transfer
    approvals should not serve as vehicles to extract from petitioners far-reaching and non-merger
    specific policy concessions that are best left to broader rulemaking or legislative processes.

    That would be fine if the government actually gave the FCC power, but this is a whole other issue within itself.
    From the dissenting opinion, to which I agree: (link 2)

    Comcast’s acquisition of NBC Universal is a transaction like no other that has
    come before this Commission—ever. It reaches into virtually every corner of our media
    and digital landscapes and will affect every citizen in the land. It is new media as well as
    old; it is news and information as well as sports and entertainment; it is distribution as
    well as content. And it confers too much power in one company’s hands.

    Looking over these public notices on the FCC site I think it must be considered though on what we expected the FCC to do in the first place. If a particular judge thinks a law is stupid, it is not his job to ignore the law. (Constitutionality being a whole oth

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  42. Welp. by dragonhunter21 · · Score: 1

    I was going pretty soft on Obama- I think he'd done some not-very-bright things, but he could shape up.

    Time to go complain on the internet.

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  43. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by corbettw · · Score: 1

    It's not my fault, I voted for Kodos.

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  44. Can you say "Plutocracy"? by get_your_guns · · Score: 2

    I agree with all the posters here that have seen where America is going. It is no longer a multi party democracy. When was the last time Americans had any control of important legislation? Where was the vote on the Health Care Plan that Obama pushed through with his majority vote?

    This country no longer is controlled by the citizens. At least at my state level I can vote on certain state initiatives but I did not get a chance to vote on the Health Care Plan and the Health Care Plan will wind up costing me more than any state initiative. Just as Bush was given the green light for going to war from the big defense industry, Obama was given the green light from the health insurance industry, who by the way the health insurance industry will gain the most as the 30 million or so people that don't want insurance or was just managing to put food on the table for their family instead of paying high insurance rates will now be forced to pay high insurance rates and let their family die of starvation.

    Obama did not get the chance to design the right health care system for the right one would limit the public health insurance options. There was billions of dollars spent behind doors that we voting Americans will never see. The people in control will never show themselves. They hide behind their money and corporations getting richer and richer all the while our jobs are going overseas, our gas is getting more expensive and the security of our families is going away.

  45. I predict outtages/quality degredations coming... by prodevel · · Score: 1

    I predict outages/quality degradations/nefarious tweaks coming to ABC/CBS for Comcast customers in 3... 2... 1...

  46. Obama's 'goals' by GF678 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He might say he "strongly favors" this and that, but it's quite likely his power is much more limited than people realize. He's just one man against an entire bureaucracy with established connections between various groups that aren't going to be particularly willing to budge, no matter what he says. For him to make a difference he would have to put his political career on the line and risk significant retribution from those who don't want the change he's after.

    For this reason I'm not sure whether to blame Obama just yet. Of course, maybe he was just naive in thinking he could conduct change without any personal risk.

    1. Re:Obama's 'goals' by GF678 · · Score: 1

      I wish I understood how moderation works as well, so that I could look-up who marked me as a troll for what is clearly a non-troll comment.

      Then again, you can't make a level-headed comment about anything involving politics before some dumbfuck rages against you.

    2. Re:Obama's 'goals' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, maybe he was just naive in thinking he could conduct change without any personal risk.

      Erm, no, he hasn't been naive at all - he's a politician like all others. He also got elected the same way as every other politician from either party.

    3. Re:Obama's 'goals' by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

      People forget that the US president is NOT supposed to have the power to change everything on a whim. The president is not a decider, he's the guy in charge of a branch of the US government that has very defined responsibilities and limits.

      Sometimes I think that people don't deserve a well thought out democratic government.

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    4. Re:Obama's 'goals' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can appreciate that there are a lot of things that make it difficult for Obama to actually accomplish what he wants to, but he's not using all of his options. Obama is a great speaker and he could use that ability to make his case directly to the public, yet the term "bully pulpit" seems to be lost on him.

    5. Re:Obama's 'goals' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For him to make a difference he would have to put his political career on the line and risk significant retribution from those who don't want the change he's after.

      Sounds like you called him a coward.

      I'm not sure whether to blame Obama just yet. Of course, maybe he was just naive in thinking he could conduct change without any personal risk.

      Oops, sounds like you're apologizing for cowardice.

  47. Not very powerful since you don't need either. by sanchom · · Score: 1

    This is only a concentration of power if you see comcast and NBC as needs. Who actually needs either of them?

  48. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    Not answering to this specific situation, but you are 100% wrong. Not objecting strongly enough to burn political capital to change the decisions of others is not the same thing as actively supporting it. Pretending they are the same is a lie. I don't know Obama's opinion on this, and neither do you. You don't know what he's thinking and don't have enough from this situation to deduce it. Don't pretend you can and then assert that it has to be the worst possible situation.

    Not that I'm supporting the democrats. They are as bad as the alternative. But I advocate hating the parties for the right reasons, not lying about it to hate them for unrelated things. That's what creates partisanship in the first place, and partisanship is the worst possible thing because it gets people to think they aren't voting for evil when they vote for the lesser of two evils. They are all evil, and selectively bashing one to imply the other isn't as bad as they actually are is a lie.

  49. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but if the President was against it he could simply make that clear to the two Federal agencies who have signed off on it. Both agencies answer to the Executive Branch.

    Political capital is for people who intend to be career politicians, President Obama has reached the peak of US politics and vetoing this merger would not cost him anything in the 2012 General Election.

    President Truman established the idea that he was responsible for the government and the decisions they made, by that two Federal Agencies coming out in favor of it means the head of the Executive Branch is in favor of it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_passing

  50. There was a time when . . . by sfarber53 · · Score: 2

    there were rules AGAINST media companies owning one another and cross-media ownership. It seems those days are gone forever. It is very sad that we are allowing so much power to concentrate in so few hands.

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  51. the usa canada games where big in 2010 but nbc f** by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    the usa canada games where big in 2010 but nbc f*** up game one by having it on MSNBC that very few had in HD (comcast Chicago did not have it) but they had the end of the game on NBC in HD but did not tell any one that it was moved there.

  52. Corporate supported government supporting corps ? by unity100 · · Score: 1

    and in the meantime, betraying their promises they made to people before election ?

    my my ... that is news to me.

    simple conclusion : in capitalism, the one with the most gold makes the rule.

  53. 30 Rock was almost right! by FoolishBluntman · · Score: 2

    Who knew that the purchase of NBC by Kabletown was really Comcast! Life imitates art.

    Jack Donaghy would really be mad!

    see
    http://www.kabletown.com/

    see
    http://campuswham.com/umasswham/blog/kabletowncomcast-a-kind-and-generous-company-30-rock/2010/03/11/

    1. Re:30 Rock was almost right! by EMR · · Score: 1

      Either that or NBC was just buttering up the public the the idea of a cable company owning a tv studio. Which would be even scarier.

    2. Re:30 Rock was almost right! by blueg3 · · Score: 1

      Either that or NBC was just buttering up the public the the idea of a cable company owning a tv studio. Which would be even scarier.

      You mean like Time Warner?

    3. Re:30 Rock was almost right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually Time warner cable is no longer affiliated with Time Warner (owner of the TV stations).

      At least as of 2009.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner_Cable

      If people only knew how many companies were part of massive conglomerates of other companies.. They'd be afraid to buy anything..

      the main issue with Comcast.. is well. their continual winning of the Golden Poo award.

      My personal experience has been that everywhere comcast moves in and takes over the local cable company the quality of service and support drops significantly.

  54. Is he from a major party? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

    Is Obama from a major party? That pretty much answers the question: he is a liar.

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  55. STOP, PLEASE! by PixelScuba · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Downvote this garbage, PLEASE. This is becoming such a tired meme born of cynics who fail to objectively look at the world around them. What the hell did people honestly think was going to happen... that Obama was going to change the world and usher in a utopia to please every libertarian and liberal alike? Jesus people! The president is clearly a moderate and a consensus builder. Despite conservative talking points, there has clearly been a concerted effort to engage conservative and liberal proposals and find something that both find appealing... something lacking the last 8 fucking years! Did we suddenly forget that the previous president stopped engaging other nations, ordered people to be tortured, invaded sovereign nations, passed absolutely NO domestic bills to address any looming problems (healthcare? They had the House/Senate/White House), Guantanamo, lying about weapons of mass destruction, an anti-science agenda actively trying to discredit science findings, ousting CIA agents to discredit them, commuting the sentences administration members who committed crimes, Ordering the NSA to wiretap US civilians... did everyone suddenly get amnesia and forget what the fuck happened during the last 8 years of the Bush administration!?

    Jesus Christ, people... I don't approve of everything the Obama administration does but shut the fuck up, please... this "meet the new boss same as the old boss" bullshit is so grating. Yes, Obama is a politician and does politician things. Yes, the Obama administration has continued some of the Bush era prcatices. But there is no fucking way you can objectively sit there and tell me he is anywhere NEAR the level of fuckup the previous president was... he is a massive improvement.

    Tell you what, come talk to me when Obama knowingly manufactures evidence to start a war with Iran, discredits everyone who knows he's lying, and pardons Timothy Geithner after he leaks classified information to the press... then punches a baby in the face... then we'll talk about how bad Obama is.

    1. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

      that Obama was going to change the world and usher in a utopia to please every libertarian and liberal alike?

      I don't think anyone expected that to happen, either immediately or ... ever. But nonetheless we were promised "change", which we have not received.

      there has clearly been a concerted effort to engage conservative and liberal proposals

      If by that you mean there has been an effort to discard all the liberal proposals in the name of "bipartisanship"; then sure.

      Did we suddenly forget that the previous president stopped engaging other nations

      It appears that the countries we intentionally isolate remain intentionally isolated at this time as well.

      ordered people to be tortured

      And yet we are still torturing people...

      invaded sovereign nations

      And yet we are still occupying those sovereign nations...

      passed absolutely NO domestic bills to address any looming problems (healthcare? They had the House/Senate/White House)

      We sure as fuck did not solve the health care problem. We instead granted more power to the insurance companies who have been fucking over millions (and millions more) every year in this country.

      Guantanamo

      Remains open, with no viable plan to close it. Hell, Obama just signed into law a bill with a poison pill in it that pretty well makes it impossible for him to close it, ever.

      lying about weapons of mass destruction

      The WMD rhetoric was just an extension of the "war on terror" rhetoric, which is still an active part of this administrations foreign policy.

      an anti-science agenda actively trying to discredit science findings

      You don't stop an anti-science agenda by retaining the same science funding levels that were present when the anti-science agenda was dogma. We are gradually being overtaken in science research by other countries and we won't regain our previous position if we keep cutting budgets.

      commuting the sentences administration members who committed crimes

      Yeah, now we are instead refusing to investigate war crimes allegations against the previous administration. That really shows 'em!

      Ordering the NSA to wiretap US civilians

      Which has changed since in what important way?

      did everyone suddenly get amnesia and forget what the fuck happened during the last 8 years of the Bush administration!?

      Have you not noticed that the vast majority of that is still happening?

      Yes, the Obama administration has continued some of the Bush era prcatices

      It is exceedingly easy to find Bush era practices that the Obama administration has willingly embraced and extended. It is nearly impossible to find any that they have ended or significantly altered.

      But there is no fucking way you can objectively sit there and tell me he is anywhere NEAR the level of fuckup the previous president was

      Well, I will give you that Obama hasn't made many of his own mistakes yet - he has instead opted to continue making the same mistakes that his predecessor made. Whether that makes him more or less of a "fuckup" - by willingly choosing to extend failed policies - is a separate issue.

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    2. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by whoop · · Score: 1

      that Obama was going to change the world and usher in a utopia to please every libertarian and liberal alike?

      I don't think anyone expected that to happen, either immediately or ... ever. But nonetheless we were promised "change", which we have not received.

      The Nobel Peace Prize committee sure thought so...

    3. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      Then explain his vote as Senator to allow AT&T a free pass on BREAKING THE WIRETAPPING LAWS when asked to by the Sine Qua Non rogue organization (NSA). The only explaination is a desire to be President, instead of desiring to protect the rule of law. That easily defined him just the same as the old boss. I'm glad he won, but I knew from this vote, nothing significant would ever 'change'.

    4. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once again, able to dish out criticism but unable to take any of it without getting defensive and thus aggressive. The true far-leftist with an agenda.

      If both of the far-sides would just put their blatant bias away, discussions would be much more productive. But its always been like this, always, only now people do it online.

    5. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by DaFallus · · Score: 1

      Repeating hyperbole over and over again isn't really what I would call criticism, just annoying.

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    6. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Downvote this garbage, PLEASE."

      That's not the purpose of moderation. To vote on stuff you disagree with.

      I consider myself a moderate conservative. I hated Bush, because he was so far right. With Obama, I now understand when people on /. say the US is to the right of the west of the western, modern world. The comment made is quite accurate. It's the same, ineffective shit, holding the same wars, holding the same policies, with a little liberal bent to openness and some agenda that both parties already were halfway agreed upon.

      "there has clearly been a concerted effort to engage conservative and liberal proposals and find something that both find appealing"

      Why, because Obama appeared with Republican leadership? The first time, his comments got him into trouble with his arrogance. The second time, he was sheep and nothing got done, because he pissed them off the first time (you can pass blame on both, I don't care, but that's not effective engagement to piss on someone then expect them to help you).

      Hell, his first order of business to conservatives as the leader of his party who won a whopping election was...coming out of the election was to standby and lambast conservative commentators and insult the Republican leadership. Really? Bipartisan? Changing the nature of DC? He had closed door politics, and poo poo'd Republican leadership when he came out of those meetings, and then bristled when they did the same back.

      This is why now, people don't really care anymore, because of all the noise that was made, when there is accurate ridicule, people just are reactionary to anything he does, because we see it as a lie.

      Did he get things done? I suppose. Lots of innocent people got burned in the change, particularly the bailouts and credit reform (good reform, shit implementation). Lots of people got their rates changed and the credit bombed because they allowed a window to do so before the passed law went into effect (pressure and change always does this, but it's surprising liberals ignore this when they push for change, they should know by now people get screwed at the point of change hard and they do little to alleviate this)..

      btw, how he's acting now, after losing the elections, is how he should have been acting from the time he won the election. Instead, he acted like king.

      "this "meet the new boss same as the old boss" bullshit is so grating."

      Too bad. It's accurate.

      Read post #34923132. Makes me wonder why you didn't go off on him, but I'm not checking timestamps either. I guess you're one who feels comfortable with what changes were made. To me, I have a shit credit rating because some bank closed a credit card without informing me thanks to the then pending legislation suppposedly protecting consumers, I can't get a loan because there were no stipulations on banks receiving bailout money (prior to my credit rating being slashed) and couldn't get a loan on a house during the downturn because everyone was tightwads, and my food prices have spiked because Obama agreed that ethanol from corn is still viable. btw, we still have at least 2 war fronts going. Oil prices are going up despite an economic downturn and people during down their thermostats and burning wood like mad.

      And shit like government approval, well hell, he just backed massive fucking monopoly in most areas on TV and internet, with the TV news network that backs him the most (NBC, MSNBC, gutted CNBC), that has copyright implications (tort lawyers love the Dems already, DMCA origins), and you're saying he's not the same, corporate kiss asser?

      Hmm...maybe you're right. He isn't like W. He's worse, because he said he'd be better, and he's the same.

      What fucks me up is I no longer have a clue how this country gets fixed anymore. None. Freedom down the drain (1st, 2nd, 4th amendment threats), academic sourced nepotism (see SCOTUS), farmers on the take, huge prisons, rabid comments on killing or jailing people that disagree with you

    7. Re:STOP, PLEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "At least we're not as bad as China!" gets -1 Troll
      "At least he's not as bad as Bush!" gets +5 Insightful

  56. Re:Change.... by X0563511 · · Score: 0

    US Government:

    Executive - President, federal law enforcement etc
    Legislative - Senate, congress etc
    Judicial - The Courts

    More info that would be better off as a link than posted here:
    Separation of powers under the United States Constitution

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  57. This all sounds familiar. by wholestrawpenny · · Score: 1

    "I strongly favor diversity of ownership of outlets and protection against the excessive concentration of power in the hands of any one corporation, interest or small group." -- Sounds like he's in the works for something like the 'Equalization of Opportunity' bill that nearly killed Taggart Transcontinental and Rearden Steel when they were trying to build the John Galt Line.

  58. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Tablizer · · Score: 0

    ...is the largest recipient of Hollywood campaign contributions in the history of US politics, and is about to embark on a $1E9+ re-election effort. NBCCOMCA$T? No Problem!

    We are drifting further and further into a plutocracy. The GOP-packed Supreme Court recently made legalized direct bribery of politicians via campaign funds.

  59. Nope, that's "Hope and Change!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big media could not do that until a "genius", "transformational", and other kinds of "chill up Chris Matthews' leg" presidential candidate who all but one major news outlets would never allow to be meaningfully questioned or criticized got elected by the trusting public. Remember how that guy preached about "net neutrality" and "balancing the copyright"? Yah, gotcha.

  60. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by Sabriel · · Score: 2

    Anti-republican kool-aid. Anti-democrat kool-aid. Same formula, same factory, same vat. Only the label's different.

  61. Really FCC, Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was ok'd by the FCC? Start counting your civil rights one by one as they start to disappear. This is not republican or democratic, It's the ultimate in socialist society.

    Hope I didn't piss off anyone in office as they might try to "get back at me" for such a thing as speaking my own free mind.

    Also. at what point do activists stop getting viewed as wing nuts, and start being viewed as rational individuals who car about our freedoms. I think I finally understand Julian Assange' predicament.

    As long as the government can control the collective mind, they control your behaviour. What better way to control you, than to "protect you".

    1. Re:Really FCC, Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, I live in a very *socialist* country (Sweden) where I have 100Mbps broadband (up and down) -- for about 1/2 what Comcast charges for about 1/8 of the bandwidth that I get.

      And I don't have to worry about my provider blocking Skype or anything else it might decide it can make extra money from, either.

      And I have at least 2 viable alternatives (that I know of offhand) if my provider starts to try anything squirrelly.

  62. I don't care? But I digress... by __aatirs3925 · · Score: 1

    I feel like it's been a very long time since I've watched a TV show from NBC. Then again, I don't really watch TV so it's not really something I care much about. If I were to comment about the concept of this whole ordeal I'll just say that Comcast can do whatever they feel like and if people really don't like what they're doing, they can go to AT&T or whoever. I know it wouldn't be exciting to go through with this but in the end it's the people who make the decision in the end. Who are they buying products from, who are they voting for, etc etc etc... Corporations don't become large because they magically have money. People love a company and support them by investing into it, and in this case 27mil do every month. Comcast still has to grant access to NBC shows both to their competitors and online so it's not all bad for those who do enjoy NBC programming.

  63. Score one for the Dems by Starcub · · Score: 1

    Comcast has a large presence in the DC area and they are the largest cable provider in the country. Now the people that get internet service from a company that has a worse customer service reputation than the IRS can look forward to all the liberal media bias they can handle. There's more incentive for the republocrats to become even more homogeneous.

  64. This might benefit consumers... by zbobet2012 · · Score: 1

    Is no one here capable of considering the benefits of vertical integration. I bet a significant portion of the people posting here are posting from Macs. Macs that are controlled from head to tail by Apple. Most of these posters would break about how stable, quick, and integrated the use experience is. When asked if they would install windows, they would say no. All of them are too stupid to realize that there are benefits to the average consumer for vertical integration. The FCC and the FTC have no grounds to stop this merger. You can not act against a company like a person simply because of what they might do, only what they do. If Comcast starts utilizing the position in a monopolistic manner than they can (and should) step in. Also, the FCC and FTC can certainly allow the merger with provisos on certain behavior to prevent abuse if it so please. The lack of understanding about complex deals such as this that spend months getting approved is astounding. Its not like they just see the application and stamp it. This deal literally spent months waiting on the FCC to come to a decision. People need to give a little more thought than simply spouting off about how big corporation == evil.

  65. Re:Change.... by theqmann · · Score: 2

    The DoJ is the part of the executive branch tasked with enforcing the law. Completely separate from the Judicial Branch of government.

  66. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but if the President was against it he could simply make that clear to the two Federal agencies who have signed off on it. Both agencies answer to the Executive Branch.

    Some positions serve at the pleasure of the president. Others don't. If they don't, then it doesn't matter how "clear" he makes his desires, they do not have to follow that and there will be few, if any, direct repercussions. Agencies that answer to the Executive Branch (actually, many don't answer to the Executive Branch, but actual are, in fact, part of the Executive Branch) still have votes and such made by people who do not directly report to the president, and as such can safely ignore such recommendations.

    Political capital is for people who intend to be career politicians, President Obama has reached the peak of US politics and vetoing this merger would not cost him anything in the 2012 General Election.

    If you think that's the only political capital held by a first-term president, then you are both so ignorant and confident in that ignorance that debating anything political with you would be a complete waste of time.

    President Truman established the idea that he was responsible for the government and the decisions they made, by that two Federal Agencies coming out in favor of it means the head of the Executive Branch is in favor of it.

    If you want to make up shit and attribute stuff said by dead people to the modern situation, I'd assert that George Washington argued that anyone who joins a political party or votes on party lines (regardless of which party) is a traitor. It makes an interesting talking point, but it simply isn't true and makes a better soundbite than philosophy.

  67. Boycott NBC and Comcast - easy enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vote with your wallet. I've started already. I refuse to watch anything by NBC/Universal, and won't touch Comcast.

  68. Now they'll never run out of money! by mykos · · Score: 1

    Now that Comcast has got Americans hooked on the idea that $60 per month is a good price for a 12 mbit connection with a 250GB cap, their margins keep getting bigger and bigger and they can raise the price any time they want. Even if the piracy rate rose to 100%, they'd still be making money hand over fist. Hell, the piracy rate could rise to 200% and they'd still be in business.

  69. Break open another bottle of whine by sir1real · · Score: 1

    Now that the merger has FINALLY gone through I would like to take this opportunity to tell you all to suck it.

  70. Re:Change.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nor the way you apparently think it works. The DoJ is a part of the executive branch, not part of the judiciary. President Obama does indeed have authority over the Department of Justice, as he does over every other department whose head he selects.

  71. Strange new meaning of "different" you are using.. by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    ending DADT on the side of inclusion

    The sad thing is that is the most liberal act that Obama has seen ushered through since taking office.

    comprehensive healthcare reform

    While comprehensive bills are generally long, bills do not become comprehensive just because they are long. And this long bill was anything but comprehensive. Shit, in reality it was anything but reform, as well.

    While we're at it, there wasn't all that much healthcare involved in it, either...

    banking system overhaul

    You're stretching the meaning of overhaul significantly here...

    but those issues alone are pretty substantial and quite different from anything that Bush was willing to do

    Are you joking? The health care bill was written by republicans, for republicans. They only opposed it because they knew they wouldn't get credit for it. Anything that was the slightest bit liberal was thrown out in very early revisions, and all that remained were parts that were written by conservatives under the false promise of "bipartisanship" and "cooperation". If the republican congress in 2006 had taken up the same issue they would have written the same bill and Bush would have happily signed it as a new "contract with America" or some such stupid shit.

    Really, all you need to know about the lack of distinction between the current and most previous POTUS lies in that bill. If Obama ever intended to pass any health care reform (which is now very much an open question) he sure didn't do shit to hold his ground. Instead he passed a bill written by the other guys. He might as well have signed the Washington DC yellow pages into law, it would have been just as useful.

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  72. the nuance of communism by RingDev · · Score: 1

    Communism is a totalitarian system of centralized control.

    communism is a negligable system of decentralized control foundationed by communal property and respect.

    The problem with communism (small-c communism) is that there isn't a central control point. The power vacuum allows for the worst possible candidates to assume a position of power, thus leading to a Communism (big-c Communism).

    Small-c communism actually works really well, in geographically limited close knit communities. We see it in part in Amish communities, in the old agrarian south (yeah, the communist party of America used to be based out of the bibble belt), and in "simpler times" when communication and distribution were much more limited.

    But as soon as a small-c communism grows, things get ugly. You wind up with individual communities favoring themselves over the other communities, so you need someone to over see the whole lot to ensure that things are being done in the interest of the whole. But that immediately creates a position and a system for abuse and fraud. And eventually, those in power will seek more power (just like all political systems, even/especially democracy). And before you know it you have a big-c Communism with a centralized totalitarian government controling wages, production, distribution, and enjoying a level of comfort that is not inline with their citizens.

    communism isn't inherantly evil or wrong. It's a governing tool, just like a monarchy, democracy, republic, etc... In some cases it works well. In some cases it works poorly.

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  73. Re:For the love of Pete ppl... by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1

    Silly Tablizer, we've been a plutocracy for quite a while now.

    I know I'm a broken record now when I say you're fooling yourself if you think one party is better than the other. They're all run by PACs.

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  74. In the words of Darth Vader by ProfessorKaos64 · · Score: 0

    In the words of the comedic unveiling of Vader in SW:EP III... noooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

  75. Re:Change.... by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

    It's Obama ignoring his own goal.

    Except that, contrary to TFS, this has nothing to do with Obama's stated goal. It does nothing to affect diversity of ownership of outlets, and transferring NBC Universal from 80% GE/20% Vivendi to 51% Comcast/49% GE doesn't increase the concentration of power in the hands of any one corporation.

    It increases vertical rather than horizontal integration in television, and shifts assets around between existing megacorporations.

  76. Re:Change.... by poity · · Score: 1

    Sorry man, you can't go around placing reasonable criticism on Obama here on Slashdot. It gets the mods riled up and frustrated with all that cognitive dissonance. You have to blame nameless entities who operate in the dark, as you see in the +5 comment up top, since the dude they voted for can't possibly do any wrong. Of course, 4 years ago you could accuse Bush of all sorts of unsubstantiated collusion for easy karma.

    It's a hard life online for non-partisans.

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  77. Re:Change.... by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

    Exactly which branch do you think the DoJ is part of?

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  78. let's hear it for Kabletown, with a K by jsepeta · · Score: 1

    the revolution will NOT be televised, it will be streamed from a cellphone

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    obama isn't evil. he just betrays the public will at every opportunity. i think that's just being a selfish millionaire.

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  79. Re:Change.... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    Well, I had THOUGHT it was in the judiciary. I was apparently wrong though. Either way, it's some good information regardless of my intent/motivation in posting the link.

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  80. Re:Who's Pete? by jwhitener · · Score: 1

    I wish I hadn't commented previously. I would have modded you up further. Now I'm generally curious: was this merger largely outside of the scope of the FCC's power, once certain licensing and certain consumer protection items in place?

  81. Re:Who's Pete? by masterwit · · Score: 1

    was this merger largely outside of the scope of the FCC's power, once certain licensing and certain consumer protection items in place?

    The FCC's job is not largely feasibility, it's legality. This is similar (in my humble understanding here) to a judge: morality is not of the concern, that is the concern of the legislative body. I believe you are right in saying that.

    Now whether we as citizens so desire our Congress to grant the FCC specifically more "power" and/or "directive" in this area... that is a whole other issue.

    Don't take what I say as an expert's opinion here, I'm not one, rather this is what I've heard from reading around the internet especially over the past few weeks.

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  82. I metamoderated you +1, but you're Very Wrong by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Hi, it's a week late for a normal reply, but your article just came up for metamoderation. Slashdot Guidelines are that articles deserve positive moderation if they're trying to contribute what the author thinks is something positive to the discussion, and shouldn't get negative moderation even if you think they're wrong, and metamoderation should reinforce this.

    You, Sir or Maam, fall into both categories, so as a metamoderator, I gave you a "+", but I'm posting this to rant at you for being seriously wrong. I'm not likely to read your response or follow it up - I try to minimize the amount of complaining to wrong-headed partisan Democrats I do, and ranting at wrong-headed partisan Republicans is hopeless so I try not to do it at all, but in the interest of balance I'm posting a brief rant to make up for the positive feedback the metamoderation gave you.

    Obama's candidacy was supposed to be about Hopey Changey Stuff, restoring the basic American civilized values that the Bush/Cheney/Rove Administration discarded, getting us out of the Iraq War, and implementing a bunch of traditional Democratic Party goals, like helping poor people, and it was supposed to be about fixing the economy which Bush so irresponsibly trashed. The reasons the Democrats picked him over Hilary Clinton were primarily his inspiring speaking and her lack of commitment to getting us out of Iraq (neither one would have gotten us out of Afghanistan, and while Dennis Kucinich and a couple of the other minor candidates might have, they weren't serious players; I forget where Edwards stood before he self-destructed.)

    Obama promised to fix the atrocity of America's illegal treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, and his first week in office he told us he'd be doing it, and then he chickened out and let the Republicans and conservative Democrats pretend that giving fair trials to people America had tortured would cause the terrorists under your beds to eat The Homeland's children. And beyond that, instead of having his Justice Department prosecuting war criminals or at least abrogating the policies the Bush League set while they were in office, Holder and friends have been defending them. And while they're probably not torturing prisoners any more, and there's a bit more adult supervision, they still haven't given these people fair trials, and there's a serious lack of transparency about how the official prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan are treating prisoners, much less about whether they're still running unofficial secret prisons.

    Warrantless Wiretapping - As with war crimes, the Justice Department is defending this set of Bush Policies, because the folks they work for like to avoid any legal and Constitutional restrictions on arbitrary surveillance and prosecution.

    Extrajudicial Assassination By Executive Order - No, Obama didn't promise that he'd do it while he was out campaigning, he just announced it after he got into office. I suppose he gets some transparency points for admitting it; even Darth Cheney Himself wouldn't have said he was going to have people assassinated, he would have just done it and kept it hidden.

    Immigration reform - there's a lot that could and should have been done to make La Migra treat people fairly and openly, and to fix the immigration-detention prisons which are an offense to civilized society. And Obama's kept them as part of the Homeland Security Mafia which should have been broken up. However, the fundamental questions are more political - some people think "reform" means sending all the brown people back to Mexico even if they're not from there, and some people think it means having Congress follow its Constitutionally mandated duty of setting up processes for naturalizing immigrants, and the right-wing propaganda machine has been pushing anti-immigrant hatred for years, so it's been tough for moderate Republicans to say anything (and on this issue, Bush was a moderate, even if it was just because he liked cheap imm

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