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Apple App Store Hits 10B App Download Mark

alphadogg writes "The Apple App Store hit the 10 billion app download mark overnight on Friday, marking a milestone involving an awful lot of Doodle Jump, Tap Tap Revenge and Angry Birds playing, not to mention Facebook and Pandora usage. The Apple App Store hit the 1 billion mark in April of 2009, after opening in July of 2008. Apple is rewarding the downloader of the 10 billionth free or paid App Store app with a $10,000 iTunes gift card in a bit of showmanship that Willy Wonka would be proud of. As of 7AM EST, however, Apple hadn't publicly identified the winner, only saying that you'd need to come back later to find out who won. Apple put an iOS app countdown ticker on its Website last week to build buzz around the milestone and generated about 250 million app downloads since. It also revealed a list of all-time most downloaded free and paid iPhone and iPad apps." The winner of the $10k is Gail Davis, a British woman whose children installed an app without her knowledge. She actually thought the phone call from Apple was a prank at first. "My daughters told me they had downloaded it and they knew there was a competition and that we may have won it," she told BBC Radio 5 Live.

195 comments

  1. Willy Wonka wouldn't be proud of Apple. by intellitech · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Apple is like Augustus Gloop, who ended up losing because he was incredibly gluttonous and enjoyed stuffing his face beyond what one could think humanly possible.

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    1. Re:Willy Wonka wouldn't be proud of Apple. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Your making a Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory analogy with Apple? That's crazy talk.

      It's Citizen Kane all the way down.

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    2. Re:Willy Wonka wouldn't be proud of Apple. by bonch · · Score: 1

      What the hell are you talking about?

  2. Kids these days by chitselb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had a similar thing happen with Apple's iTunes a few years ago. One of my kids downloaded a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff using my debit card. Since I didn't (still don't) own an iPod and run Linux on the desktop (no iTunes client) there was no way it was me. I was pretty sure it was an inside job, but there was no phone number to contact Apple. The child vehemently denied any involvement. After going back and forth a few times with iTunes' web support people, they told me it was fraud and I should involve the local police department, ending the matter where they were concerned. I went back on their site, but instead of reporting it as a fraud issue, I took the "I forgot my username and password" route. I entered my credit card info and they gave up the goods, handing over the kid's email account. The iTunes were also discovered on the kid's iPod, as well as receipts in the yahoo mail folder. Busted.

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    1. Re:Kids these days by alen · · Score: 2

      Back in the 1980's one of my friends who had cable at the time used to order pay per view and swear to his mother it was an accident

      Same here. Don't ever let your kids have the ability to automatically buy something

    2. Re:Kids these days by gowen · · Score: 2

      Kids, eh. Many of them don't know the difference between "who's" and "whose".

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    3. Re:Kids these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      I put my whose into my who's wholes.

    4. Re:Kids these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Er, that's not very similar. These kids downloaded a free app without their mother's knowledge. Your kids are thieves.

    5. Re:Kids these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that is why you never use a debit card. If you had used a credit card all you would have had to do is call your credit card company, report the fraud and then be done with it.

      Debit cards are the worst thing ever invented (banks love it though because the rules are so lax, they have none of the responsibly and you take all the liability).

    6. Re:Kids these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't forget, liars too...

    7. Re:Kids these days by Vectormatic · · Score: 1

      which would still require them having the itunes password of the mother, if the mothers account was used

      if she has a credit card coupled to her itunes account, they could have downloaded anything

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    8. Re:Kids these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) That's a big if.
      b) Let's suppose a credit card was linked. They could have downloaded anything...but didn't. Which means they didn't steal from their parents.

      Chances are they had permission? I know my parents' iTunes passwords, and I haven't lived with them in almost a decade. Even if they didn't...it's not similar at all? Because they downloaded a free app and then didn't lie about it, which is different from downloading hundreds of dollars worth of apps and lying about it?

    9. Re:Kids these days by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      And that is why you never use a debit card.

      Visa or Mastercard debit cards have all the same safeguards as their credit cards. The only difference is that you are spending your own money rather than your bank's.

      Most websites will not accept the normal type of debit card that you can only use through ATMs or EFTPOS.

    10. Re:Kids these days by kundziad · · Score: 1

      Did you report them to the police?

    11. Re:Kids these days by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Isn't another difference that you don't get money back on most debit cards? (e.g. I get 1% or more back on various credit cards, for various types of purchases.)

      Again, I said _most_. I do see Target advertizing theirs with 5% back.

  3. Great, but... by Atti+K. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I miss the Apple that made great hardware (although a little bit overpriced), and a nice OS to go with it. The iPhone/iPad/AppStore/iTunes/we-control-the-device-even-if-you-bought-it Apple that has put Macs and OS X to the background is not so nice and geeky anymore.

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    1. Re:Great, but... by Graff · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I miss the Apple that made great hardware (although a little bit overpriced), and a nice OS to go with it

      They still make great hardware and a nice OS to go with it. It may not be directly targeted at the geek crowd that browses Slashdot (although it can work great for those people too) but to the average person on the street it matches pretty well with what they are looking for in a computer/phone/browsing device.

      Of course this isn't a popular thought here on Slashdot but hey, who needs karma anyway? I've been karma capped for years and it's all-too-easy to make up the few mod points I'll get hit for posting something against the "mainstream" here.

    2. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I also miss the Apple that used to be strongly supporting education, homeschoolers and small business. When they abandoned Classic they made it so that a tremendous amount of software is no longer useable and will die out. This is great software that isn't getting rewritten. It is a real loss to society. This is the problem with virtual products. With old paper publishing you could keep reading a book for hundreds of years. Now if the hardware or the operating system stop offering backward compatibility your content is lost. Sucks.

      My spammer catcher word is "recycle". How ironic.

    3. Re:Great, but... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Um, Apple just reported record sales of Macs just last week. The computer division doesn't get the press as much as it used to but it doesn't mean they aren't still a vital part of the company. I suppose since Apple retired their "I'm a Mac" commercials it gets less attention from the press.

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    4. Re:Great, but... by Graff · · Score: 1

      When they abandoned Classic they made it so that a tremendous amount of software is no longer useable and will die out.

      You can still run a lot of those Classic Mac OS X apps, here's some links for you:

      Mac OS X Hints How to run Classic (pre OS X) apps on Intel Macs E-Maculation Classic Macintosh emulation website SheepShaver MacOS run-time environment for BeOS and Linux
    5. Re:Great, but... by Atti+K. · · Score: 2

      They don't get as much press as they used to, because they don't update the Mac lineup as often as they used to. And regarding the OS... two years after 10.6, what will 10.7 bring new? Fullscreen apps and an iPad-style homescreen or whatnot. Come on. Of couse, as long as Macs sell well, but iPads and iPhones sell even better, Apple will focus more on the development of iOS and the devices it runs on.

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    6. Re:Great, but... by Threni · · Score: 1

      Karma doesn't matter. It used to be that you could say `it's just a number - ignore it` but it's not even a number any more. Why would anyone care what their karma was?

    7. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what we call, wishful thinking.

      Where was I when this Apple existed?

    8. Re:Great, but... by Raenex · · Score: 1, Troll

      Of course this isn't a popular thought here on Slashdot but hey, who needs karma anyway?

      Apparently you do, because your karma whine got the +5, as it usually does on Slashdot.

    9. Re:Great, but... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      My Macbook Pro is as good (better even in my opinion) than previous macbooks. It's effectively like having a polish Linux system and I can control it fully. If I want to uninstall iTunes it'd be more than happy to and I feel no need to use it.

      I'm not saying the way they handle their portables is perfect or what I'd like but their laptops and desktops are still excellent and make wintel machines feel cheap and awful.

    10. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course this isn't a popular thought here on Slashdot but hey, who needs karma anyway? I've been karma capped for years and it's all-too-easy to make up the few mod points I'll get hit for posting something against the "mainstream" here.

      I'm not sure what slashdot you've been visiting, but as is evidenced by the fact that your post is now moderated to the highest it can go, this site is no longer the domain of actual neckbeard Linux users, it is now the domain of hipster Mac fanbois. The only people who get downvoted here are people who dare to say they prefer the freedom of Linux to the stifling control that is everything Apple or even the people who dare to question why yet another piece of Apple marketing has been greenlit for the slashdot front page.

    11. Re:Great, but... by elbles · · Score: 1

      My MacBook Pro (the last generation of discrete models) is a very well-built machine, but in some ways, it's a step back from the PowerBook G4 I had prior to it (very little things, like the speakers audibly turning on and off after listening to something, the wi-fi introducing a bit of background noise while on, etc.). The unibody ones are obviously very solid too, but I really hate the new touchpad, and the bezel bothers me a bit too. Little things for sure, but it used to be all the little things that added up to make Macs that much better.

      And not all Wintel machines are built like garbage. ThinkPads are still world-class, even if they aren't much to look at. I got a X60s on eBay a few weeks ago to carry around with me, and it's built even better than my Mac.

    12. Re:Great, but... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      You can check it out on wikipedia for yourself. They seem to update their laptops and desktops about every 6 months. It's only perception that they don't update their lineup as often as they used to. In some regards, they update them more often than they used to. As for 10.7, they have only hinted at some of the features which have not been finalized.

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    13. Re:Great, but... by bonch · · Score: 1

      They still make nice hardware, and a nice OS to go with it (on Intel chips now!). The iPod has been around for as long as OS X has been, so I don't know what nostalgia you're pining for. The iPhone kicks ass and is celebrating its 10 billionth app download.

      Seriously, what are you talking about? It's as if you knew beforehand that generic, non-specific Apple criticism would get an instant "+5 Insightful." Oh, wait, this is Slashdot.

    14. Re:Great, but... by bonch · · Score: 1

      I don't know what site you're visiting, but posters on Slashdot have been vehemently trashing Apple for the last 12 months. Ever since Android, ridiculous anti-Apple rhetoric has been at an all-time high.

      There is something amusing, though, about you trashing "hipster Mac fanbois" when your entire post is an attempt by you to appear cool and enlightened because you use Linux. What is this, 1998?

    15. Re:Great, but... by bonch · · Score: 1

      You're seriously arguing that they should have kept supporting Classic, that buggy old operating system which was relentlessly mocked for years? Run an emulator if you need to fire up Hypercard. That's the benefit of virtual products.

    16. Re:Great, but... by Atti+K. · · Score: 1

      I talk about this: soon Apple's core business will be the iPhone, the iPad and iOS, with the Macs and OS X a secondary product, with less attention from Apple. There, I said it.

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    17. Re:Great, but... by Atti+K. · · Score: 1

      It's as if you knew beforehand that generic, non-specific Apple criticism would get an instant "+5 Insightful." Oh, wait, this is Slashdot.

      Oh, and I don't care about modding, my karma is maxed out already. :) It's just my opinion.

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    18. Re:Great, but... by Graff · · Score: 0

      Of course this isn't a popular thought here on Slashdot but hey, who needs karma anyway?

      Apparently you do, because your karma whine got the +5, as it usually does on Slashdot.

      Lol nah, I was doing it to razz someone who has been following my posts lately and downmodding me whenever they get mod points. I find it pretty amusing to have someone waste their mod points in that manner so I figured I'd give them a wink-and-a-nod at their little game. I actually never expected to get modded up to 5 on this fairly simple post.

      Anyways, once you have enough karma to post at 2 the rest doesn't matter. Even posting at 2 isn't that big of a deal, it's just a silly web forum after all...

    19. Re:Great, but... by Graff · · Score: 2

      I don't know what site you're visiting, but posters on Slashdot have been vehemently trashing Apple for the last 12 months.

      There's plenty of people on all sides of the issues. Open source, free software, DMCA, DRM, Apple, Linux, Microsoft, BSD, USA, Europe, China, Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian, vi, emacs, blah blah blah.

      So many fanboys mad with power and modpoints!

      I just find it sad when people use the moderation system to disagree with posters rather than reward people for adding to the discussion. An open and rewarding debate is good for everyone. Yeah I like Apple's stuff but I also cheer for Linux, Microsoft, and other competition. Without competition people get lazy and everyone suffers. I welcome debate and challenges, it keeps us nimble and free of getting old, crusty, and set in our ways.

    20. Re:Great, but... by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1

      It's effectively like having a polish Linux system

      I.e., it's like this?

    21. Re:Great, but... by pinkushun · · Score: 1

      Agreed .... No wait, what am I saying? Real geeks value function over form!

    22. Re:Great, but... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Back in the days when my karma showed up as a number, it was actually more interesting when it took a hit and dipped below the 50-point cap. Any mug can go through life without making enemies, but being able to contribute something that a minority of readers really hate makes it all a bit more fun.

      Since then, my karma has shown up as "excellent" for so long, it actually took me a couple of months to realise that my blocking of ads from Slashdot had become redundant.

    23. Re:Great, but... by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 1

      I talk about this: soon Apple's core business will be the iPhone, the iPad and iOS, with the Macs and OS X a secondary product, with less attention from Apple. There, I said it.

      I bet 3 years ago you said the same s/iPhone, the iPad and iOS/iPod/ - others sure did.

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    24. Re:Great, but... by lavacano201014 · · Score: 2

      Am I the only one who mods down all the participants of OS wars, regardless of side?

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    25. Re:Great, but... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I think Apple realizes they will always be between 5-8% market share on the desktop, so why not focus on the 75% market share of iDevices instead?

      I'm a very contented OS X user and my wife uses OSX even in her University Computer Science program, so it's not like it's a 'bad' thing you don't hear as much about OSX as you do iDevices.

    26. Re:Great, but... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      I agree but I found I was spending nearly as much to get the same sort of thing from a wintel PC and typically it wasn't as thin or had as good battery life. I got an SSD and you can hardly find a good wintel PC for a reasonable price with an SSD.

      The selling point was that I could get an education discount because of my employer which more importantly meant the best warranty possible from Apple for something like £35 or £40 and there is an Apple shop just down the road if I do happen to need it.

      That said my old IBM / Lenovo Thinkpad (it's an R60 from around the switch to Lenovo) is flawless. Sure it's heavy as hell but it still runs well. It was dual core 64-bit with a real graphics card. I can run Street fighter 4 on it and played tons of TF2, Half life 2, etc.

      The only problem I had with it is the battery life started going a bit shit as of last year but other than that I think I'll easily have it for years to come.

      I'd probably have gone for a thinkpad again if they were more flexible with adding SSDs into any model and I wasn't able to get the bargin on the Apple warranty as my only concern was to have something that ran Linux or something similar.

    27. Re:Great, but... by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who mods down all the participants of OS wars, regardless of side?

      I'm sure nobody but you gets enough mod points.

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    28. Re:Great, but... by lavacano201014 · · Score: 1

      touché

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  4. Offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, like, when you subscribe, you're immune from being mod'ed "Offtopic"?

    And like, the Apple Fanboys can't touch you and mod you "Flamebait" or "Troll"?

    I may have to get a paid account with a username of 'FaggotAppleUser'.

    1. Re:Offtopic by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Being a paid subscriber does not give you special license to be a troll. Trust me, I know.

      If you post a blatantly trollish comment, you will find that your troll comment will be rightly mod-bombed, but your previous 4 or 5 comments will have been mod-bombed to -1 regardless of their merit(editors have unlimited mod points and they will not hesitate to "bitch-slap" you, in their own words, if too many crybabies complain about your deviation from the status quo -- and believe me, there are a lot of crybabies here).

      That is how your karma will get raped and your privileges stripped. I speak with authority because I am the second best* professional troll on Slashdot, the best being Jocktroll. I also thank the numerous anonymous trolls out there for making Slashdot's banality more bearable(I recognize your style, Bigblacknigger -- keep kickin' anon).

      * Admittedly past my prime due to relative sobriety and a decent job

    2. Re:Offtopic by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So, like, when you subscribe, you're immune from being mod'ed "Offtopic"?

      Given that you already had your finger on it, wouldn't it have just been easier to hit the D key again?

      Looks like the retards have got bored with buggering (sorry, bug'ering) up plurals and now they're trying to do the same to past participles.

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    3. Re:Offtopic by Socialism+is+win! · · Score: 0

      Once the revolution is prosecuted, The People will have free access to all the letters they require for proper spelling.

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    4. Re:Offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have got bored

      Don't criticize if you can't use proper grammar either.

    5. Re:Offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not improper grammar, tard.

    6. Re:Offtopic by Too+Many+Secrets · · Score: 0

      You're no John Saul Montoya.

    7. Re:Offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what would be correct, fatso?

  5. Re:Taxes by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You don't have to pay tax on your winnings in the UK.
    Or Canada, Germany, Australia, Italy, and a bunch of other places.

  6. So where are their Golden Arches? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am waiting for the Big App, and Quarter Program with Cheese.

  7. In what way obese? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Apple is almost the exact opposite of Augustus, in that they are still a very lean company with not a lot of employees for the revenue they produce.

    The problem with the computer industry is that most of the competition is in fact heavily Augustusized - thinking only of income and very bloated/slow to boot.

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    1. Re:In what way obese? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      ...they are still a very lean company with not a lot of employees for the revenue they produce.

      I guess that's fairly easy to say about a company that sub-contracts Chinese companies that employ thousands of workers on wages and conditions so poor that the companies need to create physical barriers to prevent their workers from committing suicide.

    2. Re:In what way obese? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I guess that's fairly easy to say about a company that sub-contracts Chinese companies that employ thousands of workers on wages and conditions so poor that the companies need to create physical barriers to prevent their workers from committing suicide.

      Well duh.

      The sad thing is that Apple is the company that treats employees better than almost any other with extra benefits and so on; one can only imagine what conditions are like for workers making Android devices for example. Truly the machines have won, and are using humanity as slave labor to reproduce.

      Can you please give me the address of the cave you live in where you live with no Chinese made products? It sounds very cozy.

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    3. Re:In what way obese? by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 1

      ...they are still a very lean company with not a lot of employees for the revenue they produce. I guess that's fairly easy to say about a company that sub-contracts Chinese companies that employ thousands of workers on wages and conditions so poor that the companies need to create physical barriers to prevent their workers from committing suicide.

      Considering it's not so easy to say this about similar companies sub-contracting the exact same Chinese companies - or even worse ones - what's your fucking point again?

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  8. OS X is in no way backgrounded by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Informative

    has put Macs and OS X to the background is not so nice and geeky anymore.

    That's not at all true. OS X and the computers they make have been updated with around the sam regularity as before. And if Apple was putting OS X in the background why would they have just launched a whole App Store dedicated to the Mac? If anything they are trying strongly to migrate some portion of the very large developer base they have amassed into doing Mac software too.

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    1. Re:OS X is in no way backgrounded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While they might not have put OSX into the background they do seem to be putting the environment & UI there. They seem to be trying to shift the usage from a few apps that do a lot to dozens of small apps that each do a few specific tasks. It wouldn't surprise me if they shift to a more iOS user interface and phase out the taskbar. In theory you can get a small image viewing app then drag it to a different app that might do HDR effects then to another that does other things to the image. Its good that you dont have to pay for hundreds of features you'll never use (Photoshop) but I can see data sharing & security becoming a nightmare. They can also be the gatekeeper for all your private data shared between your apps. The RIAA/MPAA would love them for that.

    2. Re:OS X is in no way backgrounded by bonch · · Score: 1

      How are they shifting usage from a few apps to dozens of small ones? Do you have an example of what you're referring to? Nothing on the Mac has changed. iTunes is even bigger and more feature-bloated than it's been in over a decade, and in the last few years, they've added freakin' facial recognition to iPhoto, RSS subscriptions in Mail, extensions in Safari, and so on. Seriously, what are you talking about?

      The totally random "RIAA/MPAA" comment at the end is just stupid.

    3. Re:OS X is in no way backgrounded by mrsquid0 · · Score: 1

      The new App Store for OS X is just Apple trying to get a cut of the 3rd party software market for OS X.

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    4. Re:OS X is in no way backgrounded by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      "The new App Store for OS X is just Apple trying to get a cut of the 3rd party software market for OS X."

      Oh right, because that was SUCH a massive amount of money before.

      Pretty obviously, it's an attempt to increase software development on OS X by showing iOS developers how easy it is to use the same skills they have been using in iOS development on the Mac.

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    5. Re:OS X is in no way backgrounded by sgbett · · Score: 1

      Absolutely right, and I would say it goes further than that.

      The iphone/pad is a hook, a carrot on a stick, to drag people away from PC's. I was PC/Linux all the way until I got an iPhone, then I thought, hell if the phones are this good, maybe their computers are too. They were, now we are a 100% mac household, however upsetting that may be to some!

      Apple are a business at the end of the day, they want to make money. What better way than to tap into the 90% of home desktop users that don't yet have an OSX setup. There is an absolute fortune to be made. That's where I would be looking.

      If we go with analyst estimates of 30% of revenue derived from Mac sales. That equates to roughly $20bn last year, and if we are generous and say that they have 10% of the market in desktops, then that means for every every additional 10% of market share they generate another $20bn revenue. With a target of 90% of the market place it doesn't take a genius to see the potential.

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  9. Re:How do I get a refund? by Rising+Ape · · Score: 1

    The -ize ending is valid in non-American English too, it isn't an Americanism.

  10. Re:Taxes by OnlyJedi · · Score: 0

    The prize is a $10,000 iTunes Store gift card, not $10,000 in cash or a $10,000 Apple gift card. Last I checked, the iTunes store doesn't sell MacBooks.

  11. The question being... by hipp5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...what does one do with $10,000 to iTunes? I'd be hard-pressed to find 10,000 songs or apps that I liked. Does it work on the mac app store? Because I could see using it then for expensive productivity software.

    1. Re:The question being... by jhmaughan · · Score: 1

      I was about to say yes because you can use the same Apple ID with iTunes and with the Mac App store. But then I noticed two different balances displayed in my Mac store versus iTunes store, though they are the same ID. Which is odd given that I've never bought from the Mac App store so I don't know where the $0.93 came from. So I'm guessing that I may have had some dollars loaded on iTunes before and then was given an iTunes card for Christmas which I redeemed. So perhaps the gift cards only go with iTunes?

    2. Re:The question being... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sign up as a dev with a single useless hello world app for $10000...then buy it with the gift card?

    3. Re:The question being... by kozchris1 · · Score: 2

      Yes, if you setup your App Store account using your iTunes account information.

    4. Re:The question being... by Cronock · · Score: 2

      I bought a bunch of iTunes gift cards with Best Buy gift cards I got for christmas because not one thing at Best Buy is a good deal, so figured I'd get some Mac programs I had been putting off getting until I ran into some spare cash.
      I checked my account on the Mac App Store and it matches that of my iTunes credit balance.

    5. Re:The question being... by hipp5 · · Score: 2

      Sign up as a dev with a single useless hello world app for $10000...then buy it with the gift card?

      Yeah, but after Apple takes their cut you'll be left with $12.

    6. Re:The question being... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are marked as funny but this might actually work.

      Apple's cut is 30 percent + $99 for the annual fee + whatever, you probably still have about $6k.

    7. Re:The question being... by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 3

      The balance should be the same. My balances are the same in iTunes and in the Mac App Store and both go down when I purchase something from either store. The $10,000 this lady won will work in either store.

    8. Re:The question being... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but after Apple takes their cut you'll be left with $7000.

      Fixed that for you.

    9. Re:The question being... by Phroon · · Score: 1

      Does it work on the mac app store?

      Yes. Any iTunes gift certificate is shared between all of the stores, iBooks, iTunes and Mac App store. I redeemed a gift certificate on my iPad and the balance showed up automatically on the Mac App store on my computer. Of course, they are both signed into the same Apple ID.

    10. Re:The question being... by syousef · · Score: 1

      Sign up as a dev with a single useless hello world app for $10000...then buy it with the gift card?

      You mean fart app don't you?

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  12. Re:Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You don't have to pay tax on your winnings in the UK.

    Yes you do, if you didn't pay tax on the original bet. I don't know if this applies to competitions, but it does to wagers.

  13. Illiterate cuntbags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The winner of the $10k is Gail Davis, a British woman who's children

    Who is children?

    1. Re:Illiterate cuntbags by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Not really Gail Davis had several children with the Doctor whom then left her in his Tardis.

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  14. Re:Taxes by spire3661 · · Score: 0

    The IRS would still consider that as $10,000 USD income, as that is the taxable value of the prize.

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  15. UNIX by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While they might not have put OSX into the background they do seem to be putting the environment & UI there. They seem to be trying to shift the usage from a few apps that do a lot to dozens of small apps that each do a few specific tasks.

    Which is the UNIX approach to dong things, which has worked out very well for a long time.

    Great monolithic applications are the exception, not the norm. It's a lot easier to write very useful software if you target it to a specific use.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they shift to a more iOS user interface and phase out the taskbar

    That would surprise me a great deal since on a device where primary input is a mouse, you need something like the dock.

    They can also be the gatekeeper for all your private data shared between your apps.

    Only if everything went through the cloud. But Apple is a practical company, and they know networking is inherantly a secondary service, something you cannot rely on always being present. Remember they are still not letting iOS users sync over the internet, requiring a local computer - does THAT sound like someone who is going to act as any kind of "gateway" for anyone?

    If you are looking for gateways of content, look no further than Android I'd say as that sounds exactly like something Google would want to do (if nothing else than to collect data about what you sync!).

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    1. Re:UNIX by lennier · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which is the UNIX approach to dong things, which has worked out very well for a long time.

      Great monolithic applications are the exception, not the norm.

      That was the Unix way 20 years ago. Sadly, since the rise of the huge monolithic X-Window desktop frameworks like Gnome and KDE, it's no longer the case. Even XFCE isn't all that modular.

      It would be nice if the open source world had an equivalent to 'Unix pipes' for a GUI environment - at the moment, Microsoft PowerShell is looking like the best step in that direction.

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    2. Re:UNIX by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      While they might not have put OSX into the background they do seem to be putting the environment & UI there. They seem to be trying to shift the usage from a few apps that do a lot to dozens of small apps that each do a few specific tasks.

      Which is the UNIX approach to dong things, which has worked out very well for a long time.

      So how do you pipe iApps together to perform more complex tasks?

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    3. Re:UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Automator.

      Graphical builder for pipelined workflows under Mac OS X

    4. Re:UNIX by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      The other answer relates to OS X, but you asked about iApps - there are two mechanisms, one is simply URL handling where you know what other applications can handle a specific data type and you call a URL to pass information (or files).

      The other way is file type handling, for instance images - any application can register to be a JPG handler and any application can present a dialog asking for another application you would like to use to open a file.

      In practice the biggest use of the approach is through a centralized store like the Photo library, where you take a picture with one thing and work it over with a number of different applications.

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    5. Re:UNIX by dissy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Which is the UNIX approach to dong things, which has worked out very well for a long time.

      So how do you pipe iApps together to perform more complex tasks?

      AppleScript and Automator

      Instead of being limited to only stdin, stdout, and stderr, they let you pipe objects between apps and even let you put the end result as text to use with stdin on a command line tool and back again.

      There are plenty of examples for both languages on how to do most scripting/piping tasks with not just iApps but most OS X applications.

      Script editor even lets you compile your apple scripts and automations down to applications, which gives you the same functionality as a shell script starting with #!/bin/bash and being chmod +x

      Here is a nice screen shot of the GUI Automator editor showing the apps it can put together, some actions in the app it has selected, and the methodology for putting together each bit of the script you want to do, coincidentally using an iApp.

      For anyone who's good at Excel formulas or macros, Automator will be a snap. Similarly, anyone used to shell scripting will find Apple script just as easy.

    6. Re:UNIX by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      Don't forget about services which allow a way to use functionality offered by one application from within another. OSX has a lot of nice geek features, making the hate directed against it here sometimes all the more baffling.

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    7. Re:UNIX by walshy007 · · Score: 1

      It would be nice if the open source world had an equivalent to 'Unix pipes' for a GUI environment

      DBUS handles most gui inter process communication these days. I can't think of anything powershell can do that could not be done over dbus, and it predates it.

    8. Re:UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Applescript

    9. Re:UNIX by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      It would be nice if the open source world had an equivalent to 'Unix pipes' for a GUI environment

      OpenDoc was the closest thing I've seen to a UNIX pipes paradigm for GUI apps. (I would love it if I could use so-and-so app's "main guts", but have the editing/viewing done by this OTHER app/plugin that I does it better, including interface-wise.)

    10. Re:UNIX by Ster · · Score: 1
      Automator.

      There's a reason the robot is holding a pipe.

  16. Re:Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The IRS can tax people in the UK? Wow, didn't know they were that powerful.

  17. What software is not being re-written? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The Intel switch happened long ago. The only software I can think of that's not really been re-writen that is a major loss, is Framemaker. Apple was actually amazingly good about supporting older software for as long as they could, with Rosetta and making compiling Mac applications to universal binaries fairly easy. In fact I don't know if there's a single OS maker that has EVER been able to transition architectures the way Apple did and thrive instead of die (though a large part of that of course was switching to a more mainstream processor).

    Apple still supports small business just fine - I know because I get a small business discount, and the Apple people have been very helpful.

    As mentioned by another poster if there's something you really, really need to run you can do so in emulation. But there's pretty much no pre-OS X software I can think of that was Mac oriented, that has not been pulled forward into the modern era of Intel OS X.

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    1. Re:What software is not being re-written? by Lord+of+the+Fries · · Score: 1

      I definitely do not miss FrameMaker

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    2. Re:What software is not being re-written? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Don't forget they not only did it once, but *twice* from 68k to PPC and then to Intel, and strongly supported the transitions each time, with a considerable tail off to enable backwards compatibility.

      I have a scanner plugin written for OS9 that still works to this day in Photoshop CS on 10.6.6 - so that's a Classic plugin, running inside a PPC app, on top of an Intel-only version of the OS, and it all works fine (albeit slowly since Rosetta-translated Photoshop is slower than a native x86 app, but I cannot afford to upgrade the Creative Suite.

    3. Re:What software is not being re-written? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I forgot about the 68K transition, which was so smooth I hardly noticed... great point.

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  18. Re:Taxes by MoonBuggy · · Score: 0

    Tax free or not, it seems a less than brilliant prize; not that I'd be complaining if they gave me a voucher that's pretty much worth all the music and video I can eat for a decently long time, but for the relative pittance that it's worth to a company like Apple they would have been much kinder to give out a voucher that could be used for hardware too.

    A couple of shiny new MacBooks, an iPhone for everyone in the family, and enough left for an Apple TV, a 30" display or two, and a handful of iPads is a pretty serious prize, whether to keep or to eBay - more or less unlimited access to the iTunes store, while still something I'd like, would be a far less exciting prospect.

  19. Re:Taxes by MoonBuggy · · Score: 0

    I seem to recall that US citizens are taxed on income earned outside the US, so yes, the IRS can tax people in the UK.

    That said, there's no mention of the winner being a US citizen, so it's probably a moot point in this case.

  20. Re:Taxes by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

    They can if the people in question are US citizens.

    It's left as an exercise for the reader to decide if the GP grasped that subtlety, or he's just a dumb fat trailer dweller who couldn't point to another country on a map - and I mean a map of the country he's supposed to point to.

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  21. This doesn't compute by lurker412 · · Score: 1

    OK, let's do some very, very rough calculations here: assume that there are six billion people on the planet and that a third of them own a computer with Internet access. That's two billion. Assume that Mac users are 10% of that group. that's 200 million. In order to account for 10 billion apps, the mean downloads/person would be 50. Really? Since the vast majority of Mac users already had the apps they needed before the store opened, I find this very hard to believe.

    1. Re:This doesn't compute by WMD_88 · · Score: 2

      You don't need a Mac to buy iPhone apps.

    2. Re:This doesn't compute by lurker412 · · Score: 1

      OK, let's do some very, very rough calculations here: assume that there are six billion people on the planet and that a third of them own a computer with Internet access. That's two billion. Assume that Mac users are 10% of that group. that's 200 million. In order to account for 10 billion apps, the mean downloads/person would be 50. Really? Since the vast majority of Mac users already had the apps they needed before the store opened, I find this very hard to believe.

      Never mind...I forgot that the app store is for iPhones, iPods, and and iWhatevers. Save your flames for more important things.

    3. Re:This doesn't compute by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 1

      I've probably downloaded 50 free apps from the app store for my iPhone, they all suck and have mostly been deleted, but it's not that tricky!

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    4. Re:This doesn't compute by Cimexus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah a lot of people take the 'download all the free apps you can find, try them and delete the bad ones' approach. Easy to get to 10B that way. If they were all paid apps (even cheapo ones at $1.99 or whatever) they probably wouldn't have even got to 1B yet.

    5. Re:This doesn't compute by guruevi · · Score: 1

      It's talking about the iTunes Store. There is a lot of stuff on there, free stuff, paid stuff, app stuff, music stuff, video stuff, educational stuff. The average person with an iDevice has indeed downloaded 50 pieces of stuff from the app store since it opened and I think it will only go faster as more people go onto the iDevice.

      A geek may not understand but the iPhone and iPod lineup is one of the most useful device lineups in the industry. I myself like my Nokia N800 but I can't give it to my wife, there's too much things you need to do to get it to work even to the point of needing to run an x-term session to fix apt-get. My wife just plugs in her iPod and knows how to get and sync music and videos even though her drawer is full of generations of MP3 players, those were 'too hard to use', you had to manually drag your music into the right folders.

      My father in law has gone through Windows phones, Blackberries and just now an Android (he gets a new smartphone from work every year) and he's always had issues with it. He likes to make stuff work together - everything synced to his computer at work and home and now too with his new car but for some reason there was always something that didn't work well (the Android for example doesn't automatically recognize that his car's Bluetooth device acts as a hands-free device even though it's paired, it only works after re-pairing every time he gets in the car). Now he's actually waiting (he could've renewed already) for the iPhone from Verizon because his wife's AT&T iPhone does all the simple stuff he wants.

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    6. Re:This doesn't compute by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Funny how I didn't hear any such objections when it was "Mozilla passes X million downloads". In fact, it was all hyped up how much one download could be a thousand corporate PCs. So it's not comparable to say iTunes sales, but it shows that free apps is a big reason people get an iPhone. Plus it's rather disingenuous attempt to imply that free downloads are worthless. Downloads of the Facebook app is very valuable to both Apple and Facebook, even if they aren't charging you for it. Sure there's trivial apps but it's like Firefox's endless extensions, some of them are pretty damn worthless but you don't hear people complain about that, at least not on slashdot.

      It's not exactly news that Apple-bashing has been popular here since the first iPod. Not to mention the vastly exaggerated claims of open source being the source of Apple's success. So they took a BSD kernel and adopted certain unixisms, but in terms of what sells Apple it's like bragging over delivering the plumbing to an award winning building design. Apple has done great and they've done it almost all on their own and none of the spotlight has even reflected on open source. I would bet that 99.99% of Apple's customers doesn't even know and wouldn't have known the difference if it had been some proprietary kernel.

      Is everything perfect in Apple's walled garden? Of course not, but so far my experience with my iPhone has been great minus the people who wrote the alarm clock. Neither is it perfect in the One Microsoft Way, but it's hardly that in the Linux bazaar either. I'm sick and tired of these three phrases:

      1. If you want it fixed, write a patch for it. That's the beauty of open source.
      2. Well, you got what you paid for. You've got nothing to complain about.
      3. If you dislike it so much, why don't you go back to Windows (Winblows, Micro$oft)?

      It's the unholy trinity of "We don't have a problem, you do. Now fuck off." even if you complain about something that's obviously broken for a common use case and makes using it hopeless. And through anti-proprietary fanaticism there's usually not a single commercial alternative even if the money is burning in my pocket. I've pretty much decided to abandon Linux after 3.5 years as my primary desktop and go either Mac or Windows, I just haven't decided which yet. Because I want my choice back, if whatever open source delivers doesn't work I'll go buy something that (probably) does.

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    7. Re:This doesn't compute by putaro · · Score: 1

      No, you're right. Apple claims 160 million iOS devices. So this averages to 62 per device. I have 3 - an iPhone that I use, an iPhone that the company bought for testing and an iPod Touch the company bought for testing. I have about 20 apps on my personal device and 2 or 3 on the others. My wife has an iPhone and she doesn't have 60 apps downloaded to it. I think they are counting any download which includes upgrades.

    8. Re:This doesn't compute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      probably not because a lot of people download free apps a _lot_
      also I've purchased more then 20 apps for the iPhone/iPad... Plus some free apps, I have more then 80 apps. Most I hardly use so I throw them away once in a while but still ;)

  22. the app store censorship drives jailbraking and fo by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    the app store censorship drives jailbraking and for mac os to go that way will be very bad for it.

    and for locking down data shared between your apps what are you going to for users to have to upload big movies and photos to cloud? US ISP upload sucks.

  23. McMAC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Over 10B Macs Served. I would prefer an Android with fries over that.

  24. Slashdot is now officially pathetic by mveloso · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's pathetic how lame slashdot has gotten over the last few years.

    10 billion of anything is an amazing number. 10 billion apps is amazing, especially given that the app store didn't even exist a few years ago. That means that a huge percentage of the installed base actually uses the app store. That's a lot of hits. That's a lot of usability thinking. That's a whole lot of infrastructure.

    You haters who think Apple sucks - they have an infrastructure capable of billing, invoicing, tracking, and serving up 10 billion plus items; the same infrastructure is used for iTunes. 1% of their traffic would crush your website. They have enough stuff, created by developers, that they can sell 10 billion of them. That's a lot of SDK downloads. That's a lot of developers. Most importantly, that's a lot of money, both spent on infrastructure and spent by consumers.

    10 billion apps is around 127 apps per second for 2.5 years, if my math is correct. And it's all what, backed by WebObjects?

    1. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by rrossman2 · · Score: 2

      Seriously, you think THAT is a big deal? How about Amazon, who not only does the billing, invoicing, tracking, serving, but also SHIPPING and RETURNS. Now THAT is an impressive feat.

      "On March 26, 2010, Amazon had a higher market cap than Target Corporation, Home Depot, Costco, Barnes and Noble, and Best Buy, only lagging that of Walmart among American brick and mortar retailers"

    2. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by tsj5j · · Score: 2

      Seriously, you think THAT is a big deal? How about Amazon, who not only does the billing, invoicing, tracking, serving, but also SHIPPING and RETURNS. Now THAT is an impressive feat.

      "On March 26, 2010, Amazon had a higher market cap than Target Corporation, Home Depot, Costco, Barnes and Noble, and Best Buy, only lagging that of Walmart among American brick and mortar retailers"

      The difference is Amazon has been around since 1994, but the App Store has only been around for the past 2.5 years. (We're only counting apps, not music, here.)

      Their explosive growth is impressive because:
      - It shows their ability to get their users to actually buy and/or use the apps on their devices.
      - It shows their ability to attract and gather a great number of developers in a short span of 2.5 years.
      - It shows their ability to maintain an infrastructure sufficient to handle that traffic.

    3. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      When you have a separate app for such useful things as turning the screen black so it can be used as a mirror, well... excuse me if I'm not overly impressed about this achievement.

    4. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by lennier · · Score: 0

      You haters who think Apple sucks - they have an infrastructure capable of billing, invoicing, tracking, and serving up 10 billion plus items; the same infrastructure is used for iTunes. 1% of their traffic would crush your website.

      Do not be too proud of this technological terror you have constructed.

      The ability to deliver 10 billion applications to a captive vertical market is nothing compared to the attention span of the average cons- hey a kitteh! OMG WANT! Ponies!

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    5. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as one of those third parties... We're milking Apple's work more than they're milking ours. We use their library code. There's no way I could ship an app in less than a decade if I even had to re-implement their text system, let alone the core animation, core data, and media frameworks.

    6. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by syousef · · Score: 1

      10 billion of anything is an amazing number. 10 billion apps is amazing, especially given that the app store didn't even exist a few years ago. That means that a huge percentage of the installed base actually uses the app store. That's a lot of hits. That's a lot of usability thinking. That's a whole lot of infrastructure.

      You haters who think Apple sucks - they have an infrastructure capable of billing, invoicing, tracking, and serving up 10 billion plus items; the same infrastructure is used for iTunes. 1% of their traffic would crush your website.

      MacDonalds have sold an estimated 245 Billion Hamburgers. Granted at brick and mortar stores. Granted not over as short a timeframe. But we're talking physical product not digital download. I guess that's 24.5 times as impressive and we're in the wrong business. That's it I'm quitting and practicing my "Would you like fries with that?"

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    7. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by vrythmax · · Score: 0

      I'm a WP7 developer and DL reporting is delayed by 6 days. Apple's is delayed by 1 day. MS has 6000 apps and ? DLs/Day. Apple has 300K apps and 10Mil downloads a day. Apple has their shit together and its pretty damn impressive.

    8. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by sempir · · Score: 1

      Am just waiting for some dickhead to pronounce Amazon...Amaazon as in Nisaan and Maazda, and as for Targey......Do people do this on purpose?
      This has to be worth a -1 for off topic.

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    9. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by sempir · · Score: 1

      So if MacDonald and Apple amalgamate you'll be in heaven!

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    10. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SLASHDOT IS PATHETIC - but it is because the site used to be about about advocating open source and now it is all about Apple this and Apple that. No wonder no one uses this crap site anymore (besides foolish Apple fanboys like you).

    11. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      You guys can all go fuck yourselves. This is my last post on this stupid faggot slashdot website you guys are the worst on all of the internet.

      All I wanted to do was give an opinion and then you faggots had to bust out the "u mad" "fuck Apple" bullshit. I didn't get mad but I got pissed because it is hard to talk about good phones with people who grew up on the wrong side of town.

      I'm trying not to be a dick but how can I talk to you guys about 10 billion app downloads when you guys think fucking Android is the greatest thing since Moto Razrs and Startacs or whatever it is you guys use.

      I honestly don't understand why people in this world have children when they can't afford to give them a proper upbringing. not only did you stupid fucks miss out on a normal life but you are perpetuating your ignorance fucking lifestyle and stupid fucking ideas of what is good. You guys should just keep being happy with Mcdonalds and maybe send in an application because that is the only thing you have going for you. Or do what I mentioned and join the Army because we need more cannon fodder (you may have to look that term up).

      In short, fuck you, all of you. I'm leaving this bullshit fucking website because it is full of low class redneck blue collared faggots who probably watch larry the cableguy or whatever. You people make me fucking sick and are what is wrong with this motherfucking country I hate all of you and I hope you all fucking die FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID UGLY WHITE TRASH AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THIS

      FUck of /. I'm out

    12. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      MacDonalds have sold an estimated 245 Billion Hamburgers. Granted at brick and mortar stores. Granted not over as short a timeframe. But we're talking physical product not digital download. I guess that's 24.5 times as impressive and we're in the wrong business. That's it I'm quitting and practicing my "Would you like fries with that?"

      That's because you can't buy a hamburger once and eat it as often as you like. You can't even buy one hamburger and give one to every family member. If mum, dad and four children want an iPhone app, they download it once. If they want to eat one hamburger each, they have to buy six. And if they want another one tomorrow, they have to buy another six. Must be some evil scheme that McDonald's is running there.

    13. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thank you.

      The constant carping, and lack of interest in analyzing the recent success of Apple depresses me. I am happy to discuss any company's success or failure, but today's geeks seem to simply like to take a position and sling mud from it.

      Slashdot should be the place to do this, but the quality of discussion is generally simply dreadful.

    14. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even on a higher level, I, as an app (or application developer if writing for OS X) is milking Apple for everything the AC posted above, plus:

      A well advertised platform that is gaining marketshare every quarter.
      A clean platform [1].
      Apple handling the distribution, downloading, and updating of my app/application.
      Apple handling the DRM mechanisms. Pirates always prevail, so why bother wasting time and effort on this? Let someone else handle this from the technical and legal ends.

      With so much grunt work handled by Apple, I can essentially focus on making the app/application be useful, run a beta test, upload the finished item to iTunes Connect and let Apple handle the rest. No worries about having work on packaging, no having to find space for downloads, no having an update mechanism that might fail due to domain or IP change.

      Of course, none of this is new -- repositories have been doing this for years on BSD and Linux distros, but for a consumer OS like OS X, this is a great stride for a commercial developer.

      [1]: We have all heard the Mac versus Windows debate endlessly when it comes to security. However, if we heard 1/20 [2] the stories about infected Macs as we do about people having compromised Windows boxes, people would think Macs have major security issues. However, it is quite rare to hear of an infected Mac, outside a major Trojan (such as the iWork '09) one. Now that Mac users use an app store, that helps close the door on an infection vector.

      [2]: A really rough figure here.

    15. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 1

      When you have a separate app for such useful things as turning the screen black so it can be used as a mirror, well... excuse me if I'm not overly impressed about this achievement.

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+mirror+app

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    16. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Goes to show that not only Apple has the fart app problem. Never said it's exclusive to them.

    17. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 1

      MacDonalds have sold an estimated 245 Billion Hamburgers.

      Guess you didn't bother to notice the "the app store didn't even exist a few years ago" bit. MacD opened in 1955.

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    18. Re:Slashdot is now officially pathetic by syousef · · Score: 1

      MacDonalds have sold an estimated 245 Billion Hamburgers.

      Guess you didn't bother to notice the "the app store didn't even exist a few years ago" bit. MacD opened in 1955.

      Guess you didn't notice I said "Granted not over as short a timeframe". Oh, the irony!

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  25. Glad that's over by Pesticidal · · Score: 1

    Now I can start downloading apps again without fear of being involuntarily opted in to a global competition and publicly identified as the winner.

  26. Re:Taxes by RotateLeftByte · · Score: 0

    You mean like the state trooper neat the Cumberland Gap who asked me when I said I was from England, 'So you are from Maine then?'
    Sigh.

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  27. Engineering and Science at Work to Improve by foobsr · · Score: 2

    From TFA: "marking a milestone involving an awful lot of Doodle Jump, Tap Tap Revenge and Angry Birds playing, not to mention Facebook and Pandora usage

    Yes, yes, progress.

    CC.

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  28. Awkward by Octopuscabbage · · Score: 1

    It was a bit awkward when they told her what app her son had downloaded. Apparently she did not approve of "Almost nude sexy girls on the beach."

  29. Re:How do I get a refund? by benwiggy · · Score: 2
    -ize has only stopped being standard British English in the last 20 years. Check the Oxford English Dictionary, where most words are still given the ize suffix as default, with -ise as an accepted alternative.

    However, there were a handful of exceptions that were strictly spelled with -ise, and because it was thoguht a greater crime to spell them with a z than to spell the remainder with an s, -ise became popular through the rule: "if in doubt, use an s".

    There's even an episode of the 80s TV detective series Morse, where he questions the authenticity of suicide note, because "No Oxford man would spell 'realize' with an s".

  30. Re:How do I get a refund? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah in the word 'size' maybe. In almost anything else it's an Americanism. Those Irish potato famine victims who went to the US weren't very good at spelling ;-)

  31. Ditch cable for life. by pavon · · Score: 2

    I don't think the money has an expiration date on it. You could buy a meager 5 albums per year at $10 each, 4 seasons of television shows at $50 a piece, and rent 12 movies per year at $4 a pop, for a total of $300/year, and would run out out of money in 33 years.

  32. Re:Geeks versus real life facts by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 2

    I remember geeks' denials:

    1) When dumb terminals were going to kill the pc.
    2) When smart phones were going to kill the pc.
    3) When cloud computing was going to kill the pc.
    4) Insert your favorite vapor/fluffware here.

    And I'll see your sarcastic reminiscing and raise you an "I remember, many moons ago, when PC first beat Mac on Photoshop benchmarks." The natives were restless that night...

    Also, I think an (old?) geek is one of the most conservative, unimaginative and entrenched personalities in our culture (vi/gcc/gdb chain kinda proves it).

    There is one most efficient way to perform a task, and your novel idea is probably a skyhook. On the other hand, if you have a genuine improvement to the software you mention, you're able to implement it and compile it for your own use- which is more than you can say for most Apple software.

  33. Re:the app store censorship drives jailbraking and by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    the app store censorship drives jailbraking and for mac os to go that way will be very bad for it.

    Actually that system works out really well for iOS. Your statement makes it sound like Jailbreaking is bad.

    In iOS, you have a very secure system for the beginning user, and if they choose to learn more about the system they can open it up further.

    However I don't see that happening to OS X anytime soon. Computers are the way they are and you can't really transition it to a more closed model. I think Apple has done the only thing you can do to really improve security, by offering the Mac app store they give beginning users a safer place to obtain new software than through random web links.

    The funny thing about your statement though is that in fact the somewhat closed nature of the Mac app store is driving a Cydia store for the Mac also!

    and for locking down data shared between your apps

    Why would you? iOS doesn't lock that down, anything can for instance access the photo library. What you can't do is overwrite something there.

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  34. Re:and 10k is like what 3 mac pros? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a plastic case, cables running here and there, no optical audio INPUT, no support for dual processors, no support for OS X (unless you hackintosh it), no software support, etc.

    These value comparisons blow my fucking mind. Let's focus on the price premium and ignore the premium upgrades. I understand, you don't give a shit about aluminum cases and you can remove your own viruses. Great! You're a Slashdotter.

  35. Re:WINDOWS PHONE 7 MARKET PLACE CURRENTLY AT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    55555555.555555555

    Greek math rulez!

  36. Re:Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You don't have to pay tax on your winnings in the UK.

    Yes you do, if you didn't pay tax on the original bet. I don't know if this applies to competitions, but it does to wagers.

    If you are running a gambling business (bookmaker etc) then that is taxable like any other business. There are also some special duties payable by certain types of gambling business such as bingo halls and e-casinos. However gambling winnings themselves are not taxable in the UK. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to believe an AC, so why not read the UK tax manual...

  37. Re:and 10k is like what 3 mac pros? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    the dual processor mac pro starts at $3500 and you only get 6gb ram and a 1TB hdd at that price. So 10k I can only get 2. But for 1.5k-2.5k you can get build one and get a real raid card / on board hardware raid.

    Apple wants $700 more for a 4 port raid card. But high end server cards on the pc with more ports are like $300.

  38. What about? by antgly · · Score: 1

    No word on the Mac App Store's success... (snicker)

    1. Re:What about? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Considering that it only launched on January 6, any impact of it will be negligible compared to the iOS app store at this time.

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    2. Re:What about? by bledri · · Score: 1

      I wonder how many Mac Apps were sold the first day.

      Evernote doubled their user base in the first week of the Mac App Store's existence (actual googling left as an exercise for the student.) I guess they are snickering all the way to the bank.

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    3. Re:What about? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      It's been open for 18 days, so probably not quite 10 billion yet. You can hold your derision until it's been open for 2.5 years like the mobile App Store. I'm not sure it will hit 10 billion in that time frame though, since it is less focused on cheap and cheerful free apps (although there are a lot of those), but more on slightly more expensive apps and games.

    4. Re:What about? by antgly · · Score: 1

      Plus I think that they need to ramp up their DRM. It's easily cracked and who wants to do business in an easily piratable App Store.

    5. Re:What about? by CheerfulMacFanboy · · Score: 1

      Plus I think that they need to ramp up their DRM. It's easily cracked and who wants to do business in an easily piratable App Store.

      Considering what is heard here, just about everyone?

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    6. Re:What about? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      If you're talking about the Angry Birds issue, it's "easily cracked" if the developer ignores Apple's guidelines on how to set it up.

      Otherwise, I think they are doing just fine with no DRM on the iTunes music store. If you make it convenient, and give people what they want at a reasonable price they will buy it. Of course there will always be some people who pirate, but playing chase with them for eternity at the expense of your paying customers is silly.

  39. Re:the app store censorship drives jailbraking and by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    There is having a safer place for apps but censorship bans should not be part of that.

    What if a I or a user wants a safe sex or fart or joke app?

  40. Re:Taxes by somersault · · Score: 1

    more or less unlimited access to the iTunes store, while still something I'd like, would be a far less exciting prospect.

    It's a nice way to ensure you get locked in. One of my friends has said a couple of times how he would have bought some non Apple products, but because of the library of TV series etc he already has on iTunes, he just stuck with Apple products.

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  41. Re:Taxes by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    The key operating word in my statement was 'would'. It was in response to the person above me and phrased using the knowledge of my country. IF this were to happen in the U.S., The IRS would consider it $10,000 income, modified by whatever windfall adjustments there are in the tax code. Thanks for being a troll and not bringing anything to the conversation but your ignorance and lack of critical thinking.

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  42. How much will it cost them? by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

    We know about the 30% cut for applications, but what about music, movies and TV series?

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    1. Re:How much will it cost them? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      In terms of actual cash, I imagine they earn more interest on their cash reserves than the cost of eating $10,000 in iTunes store sales. They effectively bought $10,000 worth of PR.

  43. $10,000 gift card for everyone! Tax FREE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  44. Re:How do I get a refund? by Cimexus · · Score: 1

    Interesting. I'm 28 and can never remember being taught anything but -ise, and was always told -ize is American.

    Mind you I'm Australian. It's possible that -ize was historically more acceptable in Britain than here, or that we shifted from -ize to -ise at an earlier date. This kind of stuff fascinates me...

  45. Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    July of 2008 to April of 2009 is...10 months.

    April of 2009 to January 2011 is...22 months

    If these trends continue....aaaayy!

  46. God I love classic quotes by PinkX · · Score: 1, Redundant

    It's been a few years since the last time I posted here. Anyways, this just goes to show how wrong was the, by now classic, quote on the original iPod launch by CmdrTaco almost 10 years ago:

    "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."

    http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/1816257

    Best,

  47. Re:the app store censorship drives jailbraking and by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    There is having a safer place for apps but censorship bans should not be part of that.

    I find it a pretty grey area myself as far as there being a reason to disallow these things, but as long as web access has equal precedence then there is a way to get things that are banned...

    And it's not like you can't get Fart apps aplenty.

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  48. You mean 10G downloads? by CaptainMoron · · Score: 0

    1 thousand = k
    1 million = M
    1 billion = G
    1 trillion = T

    I was teaching my students to use the right notation for units, this week. Every time I open a newspaper, I see things where million is m, billion is mm or MM, or a somethings weight X kilos. Unit is part of the maths, too!

    Thanks

    1. Re:You mean 10G downloads? by rossdee · · Score: 1

      Yeah, 10B would be 267 in decimal

  49. Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impressive but I'm sure they are probably including EVERY download, including reinstallations, updates and bug fixes.

  50. Re:the app store censorship drives jailbraking and by bonch · · Score: 1

    What is it with people who don't capitalize their sentences? Do you not realize it while you're typing?

  51. Re:and 10k is like what 3 mac pros? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hahahahahahahaha
    no.

  52. Re:Taxes by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    It's a nice way to ensure you get locked in.

    This is true, and it wouldn't work for me. I've more or less considered myself to be primarily a Linux user since about '96 or so, but over the last 4 years I've spent a lot of my more productive time using hand-me-down Mac laptops, and I've come to actually like them, despite my discontent with Apple's arrogant and punitive business model.

    So I guess I'm a fan of some of their hardware (laptops and iPods) without ever being in danger of becoming a fanboy.

    Apart from the software that comes with the machines, I use FOSS almost exclusively. The only application I actually paid (a negligible amount) for is the tiny but (to me) useful Audiobook Builder, which I use probably twice a week. I know the function can be replicated via various GPL utilities, but the application is so convenient, I don't begrudge the small payment for someone's work.

  53. Re:Taxes by somersault · · Score: 1

    I used to be a fan of the Mac computers since I grew up with them, but my last MBP had serious issues with overheating (if you tried to play a 3D game for more than an hour and it would lock up), and many other people were reporting the same thing online. Apparently the MBP models after that were fine, but I've already decided I'm going to just avoid Apple laptops for a while, and buy devices that have decent Linux driver support. My current machine is a netbook that cost 1/4 of what the MBP, and the MBP is being used as a web applications server and virtual machine server for when I need to use Windows.

    I've always disliked iPods as far as the functionality you get for the cost compared to other MP3 players, but I begrudgingly bought a 2nd hand one last year since my car stereo works quite nicely with iPods. I really wish someone would make an app for Android that can emulate the iPhone USB interface.

    I definitely don't have a problem with paying for stuff, I just have a problem when I feel I'm getting ripped off.

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  54. What about those poor sods on an iPhone 3G? by curious.corn · · Score: 1

    Like me, for example.

    Having shelled out 500€ on a phone only to see it deliberately crippled by the vendor after less than 2 years is annoying.

    I don't care about their business strategy on platform fragmentation: Apple should either put iOS 3 on maintenance mode for a reasonable amount of time or tune iOS 4 to run unimpaired on an iPhone 3G.

    This behavior is unacceptable.

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  55. Re:Taxes by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    I have no problem believing your claim about your MacBook overheating when gaming. I've never had such an extreme case, but the heaviest loading I give my machines is with big compiles, since gaming doesn't rock my boat. But I have noticed the machines getting a bit warm, so it's probably true to say the machines are designed more with form in mind than function.

    I am interested in your claim regarding functionality of iPods. It's highly likely that my simplistic brain has failed to appreciate the offerings of other devices, but (IMHO) the iPod Classic user interface is hard to beat for sheer elegance and simplicity. I would be interested to hear an alternative viewpoint on this. But as far as cost is concerned, every time I've had occasion to be in the market for an mp3 player, the Apple products have happened to offer much more physical storage for the buck than any credibly functional alternative.

  56. Re:Taxes by somersault · · Score: 1

    I have no problem believing your claim about your MacBook overheating when gaming. I've never had such an extreme case, but the heaviest loading I give my machines is with big compiles, since gaming doesn't rock my boat.

    I found it especially irritating because I knew that the graphics card was actually underclocked as standard, but it still overheated even at the Apple approved clock rates.

    When talking of functionality I wasn't even talking about the usability of the interface, just the functionality that you get for the price. For example when choosing my first ever MP3 player I went with the HP iRiver 120, which had a built in microphone for recording, FM radio, picture and text viewing (albeit in monochrome) all for less than the cost of the 120GB iPod of the time.

    As far as the interface though, I also saw many reviews saying that the in-line controls on the headphones (you could plug in your own headphones to this controller) were actually nicer to use than the iPod interface, as you didn't have to get the device out of your pocket. It had its own LCD screen and you could operate pretty much all of the functions from it.

    Perhaps things are better now, but that experience did turn me off of iPods. I got quite annoyed at all the fuss people were making over them, because it was clearly a case of style over substance. Sometimes I'm a sucker for that kind of thing too, but not this time. The iPod Touches are pretty nice, but my Dell Streak would be just as good if only accessory makers would provide an Android media interface.

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    which is totally what she said
  57. Re:the app store censorship drives jailbraking and by lavacano201014 · · Score: 1

    OSX isn't as locked as iOS, though. The Mac App Store conveys the idea of "Hey! If you get stuff from here, it's guaranteed not to screw things up! Sure, you can get apps off the net or off a disc, but we can't guarantee safety!"

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  58. Re:Taxes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    ...you can't buy physical Apple products.

    I lived in England for several years. Most of my Apple hardware was purchased there. You are just making stuff up.

  59. Re:Taxes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    AC's poor communication skills account for misunderstanding.

    He should have said, "since you can't buy hardware with an iTunes card". Instead, what he wrote inferred that you can't buy Apple hardware in England.

  60. Re:Taxes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    So sell your card on ebay and use the cash to buy hardware?

  61. Re:Taxes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    Yes, that's called convenience. Calling it lock-in makes you look petulant.

  62. Re:Taxes by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    Oops, misread your post...disregard.

  63. Re:Taxes by somersault · · Score: 1

    Misreading posts makes you look petulant ;)

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  64. Re:and 10k is like what 3 mac pros? by Wovel · · Score: 1

    Since a dual processor mb will cost you $350 minimum and you will be hard pressed to find a 6 core Xeon for under $1000 (buying from Newegg), going to have a hard time getting RAM under your $2500 budget. Please link the dual processor MB and 6-core Xeons you are using.

    Not really expecting a response, but if I get one cool, now I know where to buy CPUs for half-off.

  65. Re:Taxes by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    That used to be the case, but it was abolished a few years back.

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  66. Re:Taxes by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    The post you replied to didn't mention the US, neither did its parent or grandparent.

    If you were talking abut the US, then why not add the words "In the US" at the beginning? Critical thinking indeed...

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