New Technique For Making JPEG Images Copy-Evident
Gunkerty Jeb writes "The days of wondering whether those drunken sex party photos are indeed the Olsen Twins, or if they are just the Mary-Kate and Ashley's faces photo-shopped on the bodies of Lindsay Lohan and Amy Winehouse are OVER! A group of academic researchers at the University of Cambridge has developed a new technique for making JPEG images copy-evident, so that users can tell whether an image has been recompressed and copied."
If the image can't be re-encoded or re-scaled without the watermark becoming visible, then it probably can't be resized for viewing either. So the only images can can really make use of this 'tech' are the ones that are already shrunk to their smallest desirable viewing size. I'm not sure how much use this will really have.
From the original paper: "The technique now needs to be extended to handle arbitrary photographs, not just uniform regions."
Nice try at getting fast karma from a first post, but that's not going to work. The screen shot will already be of the compressed image, and will still show signs of re-compressing it.
If you're really serious about putting Mary Kate and Ashley's head on Lindsay Lohan and Amy Winehouse's bodies, like it says in TFS, you'd use RAW. Then, you can compress everything together. Besides, if you upload that to photo sharing websites (especially Facebook) there's a high chance your picture would be recompressed, so it would have the compression artifacts whether it's been altered or not.
Fail.
See, now I can tell it's a Photoshop from some of the pixels and having seen quite a few Photoshops in my time.
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So I downloaded their test image here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~abl26/copy-google.jpg that they claim gets a message on it when compressed by google proxy http://www.google.com/gwt/x/i?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cl.cam.ac.uk/~abl26/copy-google.jpg&wsi=223e8e5df695e99c&ei=6ixQTebOCoPoxQW8rYlv&wsc=yq&whp=012e012f72be
But when I take the original and re-save it in Photoshop CS5 I don't see the void lettering. I reduced the JPEG quality and kept trying and at quality 1, the lowest setting I was starting to see a pattern, but no words appeared.
I'd say their idea is nice, but doomed to failure, not least they mention "If you can’t see the message in the recompressed image, make sure your browser is rendering the images without scaling or filtering." which would be the obvious source of attack on such a method should it actually work in practise.
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How long before browsers automatically low-pass filter these broken jpegs? If not, then the browser is going to have a hard time resizing the jpeg if this high frequency noise is so large in amplitude that it causes clipping in the jpeg calculations.
Consider this: with several different HD sizes in frequent use, and even more computer screen geometries, for any given video you're going to find a lot of legitimate users viewing a radically resized version, so indiscriminate interference is unworkable. So who is this "specific combination" aimed at? YouTube. Could YouTube change their settings to get round this? Yes. Would YouTube change their settings to get round this? No. Because they would then be actively facilitating piracy and in breach of the DMCA. Any change of the YouTube reencoding settings would have to be thoroughly justified with some other goal, or they'd see themselves sued to bits.
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Error Level Analysis has been up for quite some time. It's not a hard set "this was a 'shop", but it's pretty good.
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If you read the article, they are depending on the JPEG compression artifacts for the watermark display. Resizing should not cause this because you are deling with the uncompressed image data.
Resizing and then saving as a JPEG will result in re-compression and the watermark appearing. Saving as anything else bypasses this completely.
This is only useful when you know what conditions will be applied. The example they give near the end, uploading to youtube, will apply only as long as youtube does not change their settings. Then you have to change your thresholds and all of your protected videos in the wold are unprotected.
I want my secretary to use a one-time pad for transcriptions.
Well, one of those palette entries can be transparent, so if you just stack enough GIF images on top of each other...
Okay... I keed...
Sort of...
I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing a few shops in my time. What, are they borrowing an algorithm from 4chan?
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
Isn't the whole point of the format that it knocks back the color pallet to ~256 colors?
Actually, no. GIFs can contain multiple image blocks, each with its own palette. Ever seen a GIF with just under 16-bit color? Check this shit out.
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I don't think you understand what they mean by clipping in this sense. In JPEG compression, the DCT is performed, the matrix is formed, the coefficients are scaled, quantized(clipped), and then Losslessly compressed. The scaling/clipping(from quantization) IS the core of the low/med quality JPEG compression compression. It is not like "clipping" in the audio sense where it is horribly distorted due to over amplification, the quantization is intentional and in DCT space.
Also, as stated elsewhere on this forum, when a browser resizes a picture, the cache is not recompressed, which is when this intentional dithering becomes apparent.