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The Sum Total of the World's Knowledge: 250 Exabytes

arkenian writes "The BBC reports on an article in Science about scientists who calculate that the sum of all the world's stored data is 250 exabytes. Perhaps more interestingly, the total amount of data broadcast is 2 zettabytes (1000 exabytes) annually. In theory this means that the sum of the world's knowledge is broadcast 8 times a year, but I bet mostly that's just a lot of American Idol reruns."

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  1. And a lot of it is free by commodore6502 · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-air - "Free-to-air (FTA) describes television (TV) and radio services broadcast in clear (unencrypted) form, allowing any person with the appropriate receiving equipment to receive the signal and view or listen to the content without requiring a subscription (or other ongoing cost)"

    http://www.hulu.com/ (free tv)
    http://www.youtube.com/ (free music vids and tv)
    http://www.piratebay.org/

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    1. Re:And a lot of it is free by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I love how the first thing you see, when you click the link, is that the article says 295 exabytes, not 250.

    2. Re:And a lot of it is free by Suki+I · · Score: 3, Funny

      How many Library of Congresses is that? I just have no perspective without it being expressed in LOC units.

    3. Re:And a lot of it is free by Ihmhi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, according to the Library of Congress' website, they have collected "over 200 terabytes of data". But since they don't specify an exact number, let's call it at 200 TB.

      295 exabytes / 200 terabytes = 1,546,649.6 Libraries of Congress.

    4. Re:And a lot of it is free by arkenian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I swear I read 250 the first time I read the article. I must be getting blind as well as old. My apologies. (Although I grant, one would have hoped the editors would take the trouble to read the article and catch it.)

    5. Re:And a lot of it is free by Phaedrus420 · · Score: 1

      This is the first time I have seen a submitter respond to any kind of complaint about a submission, here. I consider this a small miracle, and I thank you.
      Now, seeing the editors editing on top of that would be a bit of a shock to the system, so let's don't get carried away.

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  2. Something I'd like to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    How much of that is pornographic "knowledge"?

    1. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

      In UNIX, that's what we used to call the "sticky bits".

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    2. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by commodore6502 · · Score: 1

      I remember when porn was hard to get. I'd download 4000-color nudie pics or SI Swimsuit scans to my 1985 Amiga, and treasure them like rare gold. (The floppies were hidden with creative names like "Image XXX part 1".)

      But now twenty-five years later, there's so much porn I couldn't keep-up even with Viagra.

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    3. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by commodore6502 · · Score: 2

      Random thinking out loud : : 4000-color Amiga photos were 704x240x5bits per pixel == 845 kilobits. My ZMODEM protocol transferred 2 kbit/s or 7 minutes just to view one photo! I'd forgotten. No wonder I used to leave the computer downloading by itself.

      Of course back then you could only fit 8 photos per floppy, so you had to pause the download every hour, change floppies, and then resume.

      Good thing the Amiga multitasked (so you could view photos and download at the same time). All. Good times. Wasted youth. And all that rubbish. :-)

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    4. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by mrops · · Score: 1

      well needless to say, that doesn't include porn. my collection alone is 500 esabytes

    5. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Of course back then you could only fit 8 photos per floppy, so you had to pause the download every hour, change floppies, and then resume.

      I suspect there were other reasons you needed to occasionally change floppies.

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    6. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by fractalspace · · Score: 2

      How much of that is pornographic "knowledge"?

      approximately 250 sexabytes.

    7. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by quenda · · Score: 2

      You mean carnal knowledge?

    8. Re:Something I'd like to know is... by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      I didn't know that that floppy object was replaceable.

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  3. absolute value? by bth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps some of the knowledge broadcast has a negative value, so the absolute value of the knowledge broadcast is high, but the net information distributed is much smaller?

    1. Re:absolute value? by Facegarden · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Perhaps some of the knowledge broadcast has a negative value, so the absolute value of the knowledge broadcast is high, but the net information distributed is much smaller?

      Carl Sagan addressed this in Cosmos. He said there was more data broadcast in TV programs every day than the combined written works of all of history.

      But, as he said, "not all bits have equal value."

      A quote I had laser engraved on the back of my Nexus One. :)
      -Taylor

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    2. Re:absolute value? by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      Information theory is interesting stuff. I think that the information content can in some way be measured by what the size of the maximum compressed version of the object is. Things get tricky though when you realize that you could compress a tv signal by transmitting just the script and some instructions on how to re-film it. Worse still the average news broadcast repeats the same sentence at least 10 times, so the text ends up 1/10 the size by trivial compression. So we end up with the unfortunate discovery that all those Exabytes pouring out on television signals are actually representable by less than a floppy discs worth of text a day. Sad isnt it.

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    3. Re:absolute value? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      "I think that the information content can in some way be measured by what the size of the maximum compressed version of the object is"

      You just reinvented Kolmogorov complexity.

    4. Re:absolute value? by QuantumBeep · · Score: 1

      It's a good feeling to learn that something I figured out on my own was already invented by someone else and is famous. That's vindication of my thought processes.

      I did that with the automatic transmission (I was like 10), the toroidal supercomputer layout used by the early Crays, and variable-bit-rate encoding.

      Inventing something already well-known is not a bad thing. It's a very good thing.

    5. Re:absolute value? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Information theory is interesting stuff. I think that the information content can in some way be measured by what the size of the maximum compressed version of the object is.

      Yes and no. This is the information as defined in telecommunication engineering. There you don't really care about the meaning of the transmitted stuff (which you don't know anyway), you only care about that you get it through as efficiently as possible. However, viewed that way white noise contains the maximum information (you cannot compress it at all).

      Lossy compression of images and music are a proof that not all information is relevant. You can remove irrelevant information without changing too much the perception (because our brain would remove most of that information anyway). Of course what is relevant information depends on what you want to do with the data. If you record someone talking in a very noisy environment and plan to remove the noise later as much as possible, it's probably not a good idea to record as MP3, because it probably would remove parts of the talking you couldn't hear anyway, but which might have been recovered from a non-lossy audio recording (e.g. because the noise mostly is at different frequencies).

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  4. "Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by sgage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nice way to conflate terms for a sensational headline. What a bogus metric. A good chunk of that "stored data" is junk. Probably most of it. Not to mention duplication. (Duplication? I told you not to mention duplication :-)

    1. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Funny

      How dare you suggest that every byte on /b/, or every "frist psot, I for one, in soviet russia, you insensitive clod" on slashdot isn't knowledge of the first order?

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    2. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by kangsterizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nice way to conflate terms for a sensational headline. What a bogus metric. A good chunk of that "stored data" is junk. Probably most of it. Not to mention duplication. (Duplication? I told you not to mention duplication :-)

      Sorry, i'm just increasing world's knowledge database at the moment.

    3. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Wanted to mod that '+1 Knowledge' but then I realized '++Knowledge' might be more accurate. Slashdot provides neither as an option. :(

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    4. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2

      Oh, if only you could add to knowledge before you used it.

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    5. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by Surt · · Score: 1

      It's all knowledge, and virtually all of it is worthwhile to someone. The subjective value of any piece is just that, subjective. Calling it junk just reveals a bias.

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    6. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by decoy256 · · Score: 1

      Two comments for this one...

      1) Heh heh... I'm not X, I'm increasing the world knowledge database. Where X = whatever annoying internet trope is being used against us at the moment.

      2) And you thought there was no useful purpose for rickrolling.

    7. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      I ran a little freeware product called "double killer on me Windows partition, there were thousands of individual "dupes" about 3Gigs total.

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    8. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by Nikker · · Score: 1

      Also we have to keep in mind that each unit of storage does not equate to a unit of knowledge. A PDF of about 500KB does not have as much raw knowledge as a 500KB text file. Same as images, videos and compiled programs. I'm not sure if adding up the capacity of every hard drive sold for the past 10-15 years somehow equates to each one being filled with some sort of information or knowledge.

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    9. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

      The world's knowledge is 250 exabytes.

      (Checks my own comment)

      Wait, now it'll be 250 exabytes + 61 bytes.

      (checks again)

      Wait, now it'll be 250 exabytes + 61 bytes + 48 bytes.

      (checks again)

      Wait...

    10. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Give up rickrolling? Naw, never gonna give that up.

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    11. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by epine · · Score: 1

      Well, if we're not deduplicating, I'm sure a billion teaspoons/day of baby batter creams the blogobytes.

    12. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by QuantumBeep · · Score: 1

      Doesn't stop folks from trying...

    13. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by VendingMenace · · Score: 1

      It gets even better.

      There is a lot of knowledge that is not stored on any physical media (besides our brains). For instance, I "know" that I went to the grocery store yesterday and spend three minutes looking at candy without buying any. This is something that very few people have knowledge of and I guarantee it was not stored anywhere (until now). However, it does remain knowledge.

      There is also a lot of unrecorded meta data associated with stored data. Consider this post. It records the words I type, who I am, and what time it is. However, it does not record that I am in a black swivel chair, that there is a stapler and pencil sharpener to my left, or that the current temperature in my house is 60 degrees F. But *I* have this knowledge.

      The point is that counting stored data as the sum total of knowledge is ridiculous. Not only does it allow in inane chatter, but it disregards all sorts of contextual knowledge that people use every day, but rarely deem to write down. Though Facebook and Twitter seem to be trying to close this gap...

    14. Re:"Stored Data" does not equal "Knowledge" by jadin · · Score: 1

      At this point I'm convinced /. does it on purpose, whether for more hits, or more comments - there is no other reasonable explanation.

      From a WoW comic:
      [chat] Noob : Hey, how do I get to the blacksmith?
      *crickets*
      To assist this noob simply give the wrong directions.
      [chat] Player A : Take a left by the boat house.
      [chat] Players B, C, D : No it's not you idiot, you take a right by the mailbox. What a noob.

      Conclusion:
      You now have 4 active participants instead of just 1.

  5. So, then, get the backlog done. by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, then, get the backlog done.

    It is about time we have high definition copies of all old texts, like the all hieroglyphs ever documented, all Babylonian texts, all Sanskrit texts, the Dead Sea scrolls, all Medieval hand writings, etc.

    I guess all these together could not muster 1% of all the crap that is out there today. I wouldn't be surprised if all the foolish blabber-blobber-blubber on Facebook a single day outcompete all pre-1700 texts combined.

    So, back to work. Get the backlog done.

    1. Re:So, then, get the backlog done. by icebike · · Score: 2

      Much of what you ask for is already on line in one form or another. Often its in the form of on-line books, either from Google or other Libraries.
      See this example for Hieroglyphs.

      The rest is there if you google hard enough, some times in image form, some times translated.

      However, TFA is about All the data we have stored, not All the data we have.

      The huge amount of bitching that flared up when Google wanted to scan all old books and make them available on line shows that there are deeply entrenched, and largely self appointed, guardians of historical knowledge that see large collections of historical photos, texts, and artifacts as their personal bailiwick, and something they have to guard from us peasants.

      The huge amount of cost involved for spinning storage and web services, and web construction makes it impractical for many small museums to put images on line, let alone any documentation of them. There is very little money for any of this except for some of the larger institutions.

      Yeah, there should be a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code>QR code on every historical marker on earth linking to data about it that you can access with your phone. And every museum should have the entire collection on line, right down to the last fossilized lemur tooth. And every shred of parchment should be photographed and put on line and translated.

      But who pays for this. Its far cheaper to cast a Commemorative plaque and be done with it.
      Information wants to be free, but making it so costs a lot of money.

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    2. Re:So, then, get the backlog done. by icebike · · Score: 1

      Climb down before you hurt yourself.

      The parent was asking for the moon.
      The parent wasn't offering to help, or asking where s/he could volunteer time.

      The parent was making a petulant demand that other people do the grunt work, apparently for free, and then you come storming in in support.

      How much of your "significant amount of archival research" have you made available on line?

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  6. What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by rolfwind · · Score: 1, Insightful

    E=mc^2 represents a lot more knowledge to me than the entire 3,000 episode run of "The View" or similiar programs -- even though it's a lot more concise.

    I could take a yottapixel photo of dirt and it sure won't tell me a lot.

    1. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by monkyyy · · Score: 1

      e=mc^2 tells me nothing, its a concept, but it means nothing w/o understanding how many people died from a few pounds of nuclear mineral

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    2. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by Suki+I · · Score: 1

      e=mc^2 tells me nothing, its a concept, but it means nothing w/o understanding how many people died from a few pounds of nuclear mineral

      A little radiation never hurt anybody.

    3. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      In fact she's gained about 50 pounds since I first saw her on Flipper.

      Damn, I never thought humans could get pregnant from dolph....

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    4. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by Surt · · Score: 2

      You're revealing a pretty heavy bias there. I'd guess a geologist would find the dirt photo much more valuable than either the view or the mc^2, and a bored housewife whose life has been closed down to the point where her only social outlet is tv would find the view more valuable than the other two.

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    5. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      A little radiation never hurt anybody.

      True, but a lot of it will burn you to a crisp!

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    6. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by Suki+I · · Score: 1

      A little radiation never hurt anybody.

      True, but a lot of it will burn you to a crisp!

      Moderation is the key to all fun, god and clean or bad and nasty.

    7. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by commodore6502 · · Score: 1

      Alba anorexic? Maybe but to quote Wayne's World - "schwing!"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYomnDJsS8
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPZWzsFAS1M

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    8. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by RichiH · · Score: 1

      A yottapixel picture of dirt would tell you a lot. A _lot_.

    9. Re:What exactly counts as "knowledge"? by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Nothing?

      "Holy shit, mass and energy are equivalent" doesn't tell you anything?

      It should tell you:

      Whenever I compress a spring that spring must increase in mass.

      A spinning top has more mass than a non-spinning top.

      And numerous other amazing implications.

  7. Editors, please edit by RockMFR · · Score: 5, Informative

    The submitter messed up two of the basic details of this story - the number is actually 295, not 250, and this value is as of 2007, rather than the implied present day. (I know, I must be new here.)

    1. Re:Editors, please edit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe the submitter thought it would be helpful to convert the figure to exibytes and call it exabytes. 295 / 1.024^6 = 255.87... ~= 250.

    2. Re:Editors, please edit by tsa · · Score: 1

      What I found much more interesting in the article is that in 2002 we had for the first time more information stored digitally than in other formats, and in 2007, 94% of all information in the world was stored digitally.

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    3. Re:Editors, please edit by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      The submitter messed up two of the basic details of this story - the number is actually 295, not 250, and this value is as of 2007, rather than the implied present day.

      (I know, I must be new here.)

      Maybe it was 250 and after all of the meaningless comments on slashdot about it, it actually increased to 295?

      You have my permission to count this as one of the meaningless comments.

    4. Re:Editors, please edit by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      You think either of those numbers is close to the actual value? It's just someone's crude estimate, one could say 400 or 310 or 240 EB and be just as correct.

    5. Re:Editors, please edit by chris_7d0h · · Score: 1

      Well three actually: Data != Knowledge

      Data processed may turn into information.
      Information when consumed by an individual may turn into knowledge.

      The sum of the world's knowledge is therefore not measurable since it resides in the minds of individuals, not in books or other recorded material.

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  8. Re:In conclusion by monkyyy · · Score: 1

    no i NEED MOAR

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  9. 295 exabytes by slashchuck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The total according to this article is 295 exabytes.

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    1. Re:295 exabytes by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      that's the total in the linked article as well - the /. headline is wrong.

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    2. Re:295 exabytes by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      But who's really going to notice a difference of 45 exabytes?

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  11. Well, its certainly a number. by RyanFenton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...not meaningful in terms of the headline. The number is just addressing storage capacity potential available, not as unique meaningful data. All its saying is that the average person has access to x terrabyes of digital storage. That number is just taking manufacturing numbers for electronic hardware, and dividing by number of people.

    It's not addressing the actual complexity generated or used by people. It's not actually addressing any actual people or what they do.

    There is, however an interesting deeper meaning behind a number like this - the more this number multiplies, the harder it is going to be to control information, as people have more and more diverse options for storing and transferring data.

    This means that even as processing power multiplies - it becomes even more impossible to police all the data of the world for improper uses.

    That's the more interesting aspect of this number.

    Ryan Fenton

  12. Zero-sum game by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wrong math. At best what you there have 125 exabytes of knowledge and 125 exabytes of anti-knowledge. Ok, probably the knowledge weights more than the antiknowledge, so for each scientific paper could be a hundred pages on ovnis, a thousand lolcat videos, and. well, hundreds of spam pages, but somewhat we keep going forward.

    1. Re:Zero-sum game by MattskEE · · Score: 2

      This PHD Comics issue is particularly appropriate here:
      http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=878

    2. Re:Zero-sum game by M8e · · Score: 1

      Net Effect on Research Productivity = readily available information / ways to procrastinate = none
      0 / X = 0
      X / X =1
      X / 0 =~infinity

      Did I explain the joke?
      Yes, I divided by zero.

  13. Wrong! Its infinite! by Kenja · · Score: 2

    The knowledge of the amount of storage needed to keep all the knowledge increases the amount of storage needed, the knowledge of which increases the amount of knowledge, ad infinitum.

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    1. Re:Wrong! Its infinite! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hmm k + log(k + log(k + log(k + ... ))) doesn't tend to infinity. It converges to the solution of k = t - log(t) which is finite.

  14. Re:1 zetabyte = 1024 exabytes by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wouldn't that be 1 zebabyte=1024 exbabytes?

    *ducks*

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  15. Does this take into account... by fritzw1957 · · Score: 1

    the fact that maybe some of us were NOT counted in what is obviously a flawed study? I don't recall at any time being polled about how much secondary storage I have on my MAIN computer system, roughly 5.5TB. Never mind the fact of what I have available to my MacBook for secondary storage too -- and that wasn't asked to me either. I think there's more than what's stated in the article. Pfffttt....!

  16. Re:1 zetabyte = 1024 exabytes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Only to people who don't understand SI units or the meaning of the word "approximation."

  17. Of course by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Again the rectal extrusion technique is used to add just a few more bytes to that fantastic number they obtained. I wonder how they classify the 3 dead hard drives sitting in my spares closet. Do they still store data even though I am unable to access it? How did they come up with the algorithm to determine which pieces of paper I left blank, which ones I wrote on both sides, and which ones were printed on one side only. Not to mention the ones I spill coffee on and never end up using. Ahh pseudo-science. It's great when you can just make stuff up. You could even call it a religious feeling.

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  18. What about brains? by thestudio_bob · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's my understanding that each human brain can store roughly 4-5 PentaBytes (entheogen.com). So if the human population* is about 6,775,235,741 (Google Public Data) then I think this would blow the 250 exabytes estimate out of the water.

    *Excluding Gwyneth Paltrow

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    1. Re:What about brains? by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      'It's my understanding that each human brain can store roughly 4-5 PentaBytes (entheogen.com).'

      So, that's like five bytes per brain? Or does this have something to do with diesel engines?

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    2. Re:What about brains? by Chardansearavitriol · · Score: 1

      Weelll...thing is though, our brains dont work very much like computers. We obliterate from memory events that do not matter often. At the very best they are degraded into a very very weak signal. I have records of my computer of the first day it was turned on; i can even reset it to there. I remember almost nothing from when i was young. One was a spiral road leading out of my preschool, another is, annoyingly enough, getting a diaper changed. Another is of finding neato cardboard blocks (brick-like, for stacking for fun.) for christmas, and another is my little brother on the day after his birth. Note that I dont remember, at all, my mom being pregnant. At one point I hurt my eye. If I recall correctly, it was when I hooked up my NES to my commodore screen to play mario 3. As i started i got a screaming jabbing pain in my right eye. One of the weirder ones is I remember watching part of the movie "Jacob's Ladder." When I was 2-3. That did not help things, as I had a single scene (guy catatonic, nude on back, staring up in white room) that for TWO DECADES I couldnt identify. Fortunately I ememberd my brother was with me at the time, and by consulting with him we were able to work it out. That movie's horrific, by the way. My parents are insane. I also have all these children books/cartoons from when iwas young with single events all that remains. Heres a great example: I rememebrd acartoon on nickelodeon that had a scene...A farmer thought his cow was possessed cause its stomach talked. So he killed the cow and you saw in shilloute the guy tossing a stomach shaped object away. W..T...F. I have an EXTREMELY specific mental feeling associated with this scene and nothing else. I cant explain what it is, it is wholly alien except from that-one-scene. The more fairy tale oriented folks will of course, recognize this story as Tom Thumb. This also took me two decades to be able to remember. typing "cow stomach possed cut out and thrown away" or "Movie in white room man on conveyor belt 1908s" is an entirely unhelpful way. I wish my brain was like a computer. Id delete middle school and get a real third eye installed. No way in hell am i going to jam a trephine into my head again. I'd also get rid of that strange emotion connected to that scene.

    3. Re:What about brains? by thestudio_bob · · Score: 1

      haha.. bad typo.

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    4. Re:What about brains? by arcade · · Score: 1

      You're a slashdot reader.

      And you start talking about.. what? "penta"bytes?

      It's called _PETA_bytes, dumbass. Go see the fucking SI-prefixes. Then think at least 20 times before ever posting again. This is just too stupid.

      Yes, I know the fucking article you're talking is just as dumb, but that doesn't excuse you for being a dimwit.

      Sheeez.

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    5. Re:What about brains? by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that. In fifty years when you'll have forgotten all those details, you can search the web and remember them from a copy of this post :)

  19. Re:Friends by ExploHD · · Score: 1

    The aliens will invade after they get sick of so many reruns of friends reaching them.

    Wrong, they'll invade earth to watch the end of Single Female Lawyer

  20. _ correction by ego+centrik · · Score: 1

    _ actually it is:

    250 exabytes - "my HDD, gone for good, without a previous backup" = phuckedagainbywesterndigitaltechnology

  21. Re:1 zetabyte = 1024 exabytes by 0123456 · · Score: 1

    Only to people who don't understand SI units or the meaning of the word "approximation."

    No, to anyone other than SI fanatics. Metric megabytes are hopelessly painful in the IT world where everything is measured in powers of two: saying my laptop has 6 binary gigabytes of RAM is far more useful than saying it has 6.442450944 metric gigabytes.

  22. Re:Friends by Surt · · Score: 1

    I think they'll invade earth to enact the end of Single Female Lawyer.

    --
    "Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
  23. ... all of which information takes an area of ... by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    I learned a while back that for reasons having to do with the event horizon of a black hole and the conservation of entropy/information, a bit does not have mass but it does have area. One bit requires an area of 2 Planck lengths on a side, which is 4 * 16.163e36 m = 6.4652e35 m^2

    So 'all the information in the world', multiplied by 1,000, would require an area about 2 femtometers on a side. :D

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  24. Re:... all of which information takes an area of . by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    Replying to self - yes, I know I'm playing fast and loose with the terminology. IANA physicist. But the concept stands. See black hole entropy.

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  25. a little more filtering needed by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

    And of that "knowledge", how much of it is correct? And of the correct knowledge, how much is relevant. I'd say that 250 exabytes will shrink rapidly if usefulness was taken into account.

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    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  26. Re:In conclusion by Surt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    38 Gigabytes per person is enough? I don't think so.

    --
    "Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
  27. Gee, thanks Slashdot. by Chardansearavitriol · · Score: 2

    We were all set to record the 250 exabyte mark, and then you posted this story. No one cares about the 250.000000000001st exabyte. Way to spoil things for everyone.

    1. Re:Gee, thanks Slashdot. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      You're giving Slashdot too much credit. Many submissions here are knowledge neutral - and a fair number appear to remove knowledge from the universe.

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  28. Re:1 zetabyte = 1024 exabytes by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    When the SI system was established, back during the French Revolution, they also started the calendar over at year one again. And did further irrelevant things. You know, all the sorts of things you do when you've achieved total power and can be arbitrary.

  29. But wait! by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

    But wait, now that we know this hasn't the sum of stored knowledge increased? And now that we know it has increased, doesn't that make it increase again? And wait, now that we know it increased again, doesn't that make it increase again? When will it ever end?

    1. Re:But wait! by mswhippingboy · · Score: 1

      When will it ever end?

      When we reach the end of the internet.

      --
      Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an oncoming train.
  30. Re:Friends by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

    Say no to XKCD!

    I figure so long as Lrrr is further away than Altair, we're safe... for now.

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    If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
  31. Now I can have it all without the internets by AmazinglySmooth · · Score: 2

    Will Britannica be publishing DVD's with all of it? If so, who needs the internets?

  32. "American Idol reruns" by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't that count as negative information?

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  33. 2 zetabytes =1000 exabytes by RichiH · · Score: 1

    Yay!

  34. Compressed or Uncompressed? by C0R1D4N · · Score: 2

    I didn't rtfa, but uh, how do you determine the value in bytes of one piece of knowledge?

  35. Re:In conclusion by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1
    A: 42

    Q: Deep Thought, what is the ratio of the number of porn files to atoms in the universe?

  36. Just so long as they don't... by fredklein · · Score: 1

    Just so long as they don't keep it all in one place.

    ------

    MS Fnd in a Lbry

    HAL DRAPER

    From: Report of the Commander, Seventh Expeditionary Force,
    Andromedan Paleoanthropological Mission

    What puzzled our research teams was the suddenness of collapse
    and the speed of reversion to barbarism, in this multigalactic
    civilization of the biped race. Obvious causes like war, destruction,
    plague, or invasion were speedily eliminated. Now the outlines of the
    picture emerge, and the answer makes me apprehensive.

    Part of the story is quite similar to ours, according to those who
    know our own prehistory well.

    On the mother planet there are early traces of *books*. This word
    denotes paleoliterary records of knowledge in representational and
    macroscopic form. Of course, these disappeared very early, perhaps
    175,000 of our yukals ago, when their increase threatened to leave
    no place on the planet's surface for anything else.

    First they were reduced to *micros*, and then to *supermicros*,
    which were read with the primeval electronic microscopes then extant.
    But in another yukal the old problem was back, aggravated by colonization
    on most of the other planets of the local Solar System, all of which were
    producing *books* in torrents. At about this time, too, their cumbersome
    alphabet was reduced to mainly consonantal elements (thus: thr cmbrsm alfbt
    w rdsd t mnl cnsntl elmnts) but this was done to facilitate quick reading,
    and only incidentally did it cut down the mass of Bx (the new spelling)
    by a full third. A drop out of the bucket.

    Next step was the elimination of the multitude of separate Bx
    depositories in favor of a single building for the whole civilization.
    Every home on every inhabited planet had a farraginous diffuser which
    tuned in on any of the Bx at will. This cut the number to about one
    millionth at a stroke, and the wise men of the species congratulated
    themselves that the problem was solved.

    This building, twenty-five miles square and two miles high, was buried
    in one of the oceans to save land surface for parking space, and so our
    etymological team is fairly sure that the archaic term liebury (Ibry) dates
    from this period. Within no more than twenty-two yukals, story after story
    had been added till it extended a hundred miles into the stratosphere.
    At this level, cosmic radiation defarraginated the scanning diffusers,
    and it was realized that another limit had been reached. Proposals were
    made to extend the liebury laterally, but it was calculated that in three
    yukals of expansion so much of the ocean would be thus displaced that the
    level of the water would rise ten feet and flood the coastal cities.
    Another scheme was worked out to burrow deeper into the ocean bottom,
    until eventually the liebury would extend right through the planet like
    a skewer through a shashlik (a provincial Plutonian delicacy), but it
    was realized in time that this would be only a momentary palliative.

    The fundamental advance, at least in principle, came when the
    representational records were abandoned altogether in favor of *punched
    supermicros*, in which the supermicroscopic elements were the punches
    themselves. This began the epoch of abstract recs - or Rx, to use the
    modern term.

    The great breakthrough came when Mcglcdy finally invented mass-
    produced *punched molecules* (of any substance). The mass of Rx
    began shrinking instead of expanding. Then Gidbg proved what had
    already been suspected; knowledge was not infinite, and the civilization
    was asymptotically approaching its limits; the flood was leveling off.
    The Rx storage problem was hit another body-blow two generations later
    when Kwlsk used the Mcglcdy principle to develop the *notched electron*,
    made available for use by the new retinogravitic activators. In the ensuing
    ten yukals a series of triumphant developments wiped the problem out for
    good, it seemed:

    (1)

  37. Yeah, that bugged me too.$ by gumpish · · Score: 1

    n/t

  38. Re:In conclusion by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    38 Gigabytes per person is enough? I don't think so.

    How much data storage do people in rain forests need? How about nomads, bedouins and bushmen?

    There are a lot of people in the world who have lower storage requirements than you.

    LK

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    "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  39. Pretty narrow definition of "knowledge" by gordguide · · Score: 1

    Another good chunk of what would be considered "knowledge" ... my suspicion is "chunk" is woefully inadequate and perhaps this 295 excabytes pales in comparison ... is what humans know but have not committed to another recorded form.

    Call me crazy, but "the sum total of the world's knowledge" doesn't imply just "some form" of it; it pretty much states boldly that it's the works.

    From TFA:
    " ... The researchers calculated the figure by estimating the amount of data held on 60 technologies from PCs and and DVDs to paper adverts and books. ..."

    Secondly, that's the data that once existed in 2007 ... three years is a VERY long time in the modern world of data accumulation.

  40. Downloading in Dark Ages by BrightSpark · · Score: 1

    In 1992, when the Net was young(ish), I used a 300 baud modem on a 486DX2 PC with DOS and with a new text browser called "Lynx" (wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)). I would make descions on whether I would download the pictures with Zmodem or Kermit to view them. My patience dictated 11kb as the size limit. A year later, I used to envy those uni poeple connected to the main network using MOSAIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser) ,a precursor to Netscape and other browsers which showed you the pages in HTML form - usually on X on unix minicomputer. Happy days. Not much porn on the net back then. Says something about what "mainstream" means.

    1. Re:Downloading in Dark Ages by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      You didn't find the right FTP site back then, but it was like Fight Club - Nobody talks about it.

      --
      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  41. too much information by gartenbauer · · Score: 1

    Tthe bits needed to store all this will outnumber the atoms on Earth.

    1. Re:too much information by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      There are about 1.33*10^50 atoms in earth (Source). 250 Exabytes are 2000 Exabits, or 2*10^21 Bits. Thus for each bit, there are about 6.65*10^28 atoms in the earth.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  42. 295? is that all? by klm1974 · · Score: 2

    I hear Mexico has surpassed 420 Esebytes.

  43. Re:In conclusion by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    One byte per person on an average.

    Because some of them have been registered through scientists.

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  44. the real number? by hishamaus · · Score: 1

    It will be interesting to know how lower this figure will go taking away all the useless copies of the same files 10 MB? :P

  45. Re:You could fit all of it to ZFS filesystem by geogob · · Score: 1

    Never say never... because that's what they said when they used two char for the year field in old banking databases and programs. And so many database that overflowed because they got to the point that should never be encountered.

  46. Re:You could fit all of it to ZFS filesystem by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

    Assuming one bit per atom, and assuming carbon atoms being used for storage, a memory of 2^128 bytes (assuming 8 bit/byte) would have about the same mass as the world oil production of 14 years (using the data for 2001 from Wikipedia as estimate of the average yearly oil production). A silicon-based storage (again, assuming one atom per bit) of that size would have more than twice that mass.

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    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  47. HAH! exabytes, my _ss by rcamans · · Score: 1

    Data, not knowledge. big difference. mostly anti-data. distracting from reality. lies. bs (see politicians).
    Pure cr_p. un-analyzed photos and movies. pron. dups.
    totally bogus figures (see above)

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    wake up and hold your nose
  48. data != knowledge by kmoser · · Score: 1

    One of these things is not like the other.

  49. Knowledge? by migloo · · Score: 1

    Knowledge is the art of filtering the relevant data out of this inflated mess.
    By that definition, there is very little knowledge around.

  50. Re:In conclusion by Surt · · Score: 1

    Technically I don't need any storage either. The real question is how many bytes would a bush tribesman want if he could get them.

    --
    "Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
  51. cool number by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    Nice to see we can fit all of the info on one piece of paper, as a number and say ok, if we need to back up the internet, this is how much space we need.

  52. Re:1 zetabyte = 1024 exabytes by aquila.solo · · Score: 1

    I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your banana-powered, zebra byte newsletter.

  53. Re:In conclusion by Lanteran · · Score: 1

    NO, now you've done it! Within a couple of seconds, the universe will collapse and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexplicable! Noooooooooooo...

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