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On Retirement, Israeli General Takes Credit for Stuxnet Attacks
dinscott writes "Last month, The New York Times ran a story about Stuxnet having been developed by the Americans and the Israelis as a part of a joint project, but it was based on claims by confidential sources. It now seems that the information from these sources was correct. The Haaretz — Israel's oldest daily newspaper — reports on a surprising video that was played at a party organized for General Gabi Ashkenazi's last day on the job."
Did I miss something in the article, where does it confirm US involvement?
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
Love you Israel! Keeping Middle-East nuclear free! From the time we bombed Saddam's reactor in 1981, then Syrian in 2007 and now we tackling Iran! The effort was very sofisticated and once again we have proven -- we -- the Jews -- have the best minds in the world. ! ,
and Awe!
So did he get added to the "no fly" and terrorist watch lists?
In other words, it confirms nothing.
"The Haaretz" is redundant since the Hebrew prefix 'ha' means 'the'.
So this general takes credit for a virus that could still be working silently away, screwing the Iranians at every turn, if it had been competently written.
Quelle surprise!
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. And Israel is indeed in a tough neighborhood where every single day, hour, second... Every single moment is a desperate time. Ever since her inception the neighbors tried to annihilate her. That is why there is a policy of ambiguity when it comes to the nuclear weapons. And assassinations of the nuclear scientists working for Israelis enemies. And bombings of the Iraqi and Syrian reactors and finally yes -- the virus. And for any of you who would point a finger at the "neighborhood bully" -- remember, that you do not live in that neighborhood.
General Ashke-NAZI?
Urban Dictionary:"1. Ashke
Word meaning "beloved" in the language of the Tayledra people. The Tayledras are a silver haired race of people from Mercedes Lackey's fiction novels."
"He's lost in a 'floyd hole"
Why do I have this sneaky suspicion that someone dropped a USB stick near the toilet and some worker picked it up and inserted it into a computer.
Is this like a confirmation of an actual attack from one nation to another? Isn't that considered an act of war?
Does anyone think it is a coincidence that, just a few months after all the information about Stuxnet has come out and presumably Iran has secured its critical computers against drive-by install from flash drives, Microsoft closes the autorun hole with an update?
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Ahmadinejad craves Western technology while rejecting the social structure necessary to create that technology. They are the biggest bunch of hypocrites.
Sabotaging the nuclear program of a madman who - if he manages to go nuclear - WILL try and nuke your entire country... this is apparently a really bad thing.
Nuking Israel or suicide bombing an innocent populace... totally justified.
Good Old Slashdot. Making excuses for Arab aggression since 1997.
The mandatory anti-Sionists comment: The Jews were behind it.
For once they were correct! :)
That paranoia trick is useless today - sorry
Microsoft is an accomplished cooperator here. They are doing its governments wishes, big deal.
What other tool reaches out globally with such power? None.
It may well become Android, which is also known to leak like hell. If the Nokia - Microsoft deal, the US government will have an even stronger tool available.
So, stuff your 9-11 Holocaust tax cuts were it belongs.
This is for real.
Why no one claims that I wrote it?
It would be just as plausible.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
Technically speaking, Microsoft really deserves more of the credit than Gabi Ashkenazi.
During the farewell ceremony for the Israeli army's chief of staff a video was shown that summarized the events of his term, that video included news reports about stuxnet and the attack on the nuclear reactor in Syria.
If Iran/pakistan/n.korea/... had created Stuxnet and it had targetted military infrastructure in the UK/USA/Israel/... imagine the broohaha, the passionate outpourings from politicians, the chasing down of those who wrote it.
But the USA/Israel did it: so that somehow makes it OK ?
"Ghabi" means "Stupid" in Arabic... If you don't believe me, look it up.
But, well said. The whole "We're under threat so we have to attack our neighbours and steal the land of non-Jews who live in our country" is a complete distortion of one of the world's greatest cultures. In the US and the UK, Jews are doing (for the most part) very well, and deservedly so because of their focus on social cohesiveness, education, and family values. Like Ireland and many Middle Eastern states, Israel has suffered from a succession of piss-poor governments (which are, because of their policies, themselves a threat to the security of Jews world-wide). In today's world, the Zionists are past their sell-by date.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
to take credit for the work of his subordinates. I doubt this joker could put together "Hello World" in any major programming language or is personally capable of conceptualizing or planning a complex cyber operation. Did anyone else catch the irony of his name, Gabi may be a bit too Gabby. Ohh the hubris of it all.
They have neither denied nor confirmed this. But it doesn't matter. What matters, is, that Israel's neighbors think that they might have nuclear weapons. Which is a great deterrent against starting a war with Israel.
Did Israel develop Stuxnet? And are they capable of creating even more nasty computer weapons? Again, it is very formidable, to have your enemies think that you have stuff . . . even if you don't. So this could be a clever disinformation leak . . . or maybe not . . .
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
I just read the original article, and as a fluent Hebrew speaker, can safely say that it's been grossly misquoted and misinterpreted.
During the generals retirement party, news coverage of both the Stuxnet and the Syrian reactor attack was shown, probably as part of a recent army related events montage. This was no power-point slide titled "recent accomplishments". The conclusion drawn here are akin to claiming that the US was responsible for the recent unrest in Egypt, since news coverage of that even was played at the retirement party of a state secretary...
Israel may have been responsible for these events, but I'd hardly say this "evidence" is conclusive
I think it's understood that Saudi laws are crazy, what with the hand cutting and the sex segregation and whatever else goes with some of their stifling, barbaric tribal traditions.
If you ask any arab about Saudi Arabia, they'll tell you that the only good things about current Saudi Arabia are money and dates.
Don't you people read the news?
Ex-CIA spy arrested in St. Louis to be released on $10,000 bond
Jeffrey A. Sterling, 43, was arrested Jan. 6 in St. Louis on 10 counts, including obstruction of justice and unauthorized disclosure of national security information. He is accused of leaking classified documents and information about an agency program to a New York Times reporter. It is believed Sterling is accused of disclosing details of a ruse to thwart Iran's nuclear weapons program.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_9549d88e-28af-11e0-b8b4-00127992bc8b.html
But realistically, anything that prevents or delays Iran from getting nuclear weapons is a good thing. And if it can be done without the loss of life or even any physical property damage, so much the better.
I really don't know who is responsible for Stuxnet, but historians will probably look back on it as an important victory in the struggle to prevent medieval religious nutcase thugs from obtaining nuclear weapons.
Iran and Israel are in a state of war.
Committing an act of war against a country with which you are, in fact, in a state of war, is not a crime, nor anything to be embarassed about.
If Israel ever thought they would play nice with Iran, sabotage isn't exactly the way to good relations...
This is a nonstory
Read the guy's name. The head of the super-secret cyber attack force is named "Gabi Ashkenazi" i.e. a European Jew who talks too much. Right. Reminds me of that "Under the Bleachers" by Seymour Butts joke.
No matter any offense committed by Israel, the US will continue to support endless Wars for Israel, it all started nearly a decade ago under a false flag attack.
9/11 and Israel, here:
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526
there's a huge difference between a declaration and an action. e.g. "i'll fcking kill him!" vs "omg he's fcking killed him!"
The Iranians are not even Arabs and mostly put on a big show of hating Israel so that the Arabs will think they have a lot more in common with Iran than with another non-Arab Islamic state like Indonesia or Pakistan.
Oy freaking vey, where to start? - TFA is nothing more than speculation. No confirmation.
- TFA's link to googtrans of the original Ha'aretz is broken. Fortunately for me I can read the original article. That too is nothing more than speculation.
- Ha'aretz is hardly the best source anyway. They are like the Fox News of the Israeli left.
- The whole "ZOMG JOOS" mentality surrounding Stuxnet from day one mentality is unfortunately not surprising. Somewhere down inside I'd hope Slashdot was "better than that" but since these articles keep getting posted with many comments, I guess I was wrong. Again.
Hey, it's fair game. China hits us, Israel hits Iran...US posturing on this topic is breathtakingly hypocritical.
Verify this for yourself, it made me ill, personally:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.men/browse_thread/thread/2385ab653d66252/6cc421202f854b7b
Disgusting... especially the "top 5":
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#1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim (Gentiles) is like killing a wild
animal."
#2. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be
violated."
#3. Yebamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."
#4. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
#5. Yebamoth 98a: "All gentile children are animals."
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Got kids of your own, especially daughters? Perhaps that list above, only partial mind you, is their reason and why Jews are hated and shunned the world over and have been since time immemorial?
Like I said: You read, you verify, you decide.
You ought to read what's below your words quoted, and re-evaluate your stance:
Verify this for yourself, it made me ill, personally:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.men/browse_thread/thread/2385ab653d66252/6cc421202f854b7b [google.com]
Disgusting... especially the "top 5":
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#1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim (Gentiles) is like killing a wild
animal."
#2. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be
violated."
#3. Yebamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."
#4. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
#5. Yebamoth 98a: "All gentile children are animals."
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Got kids of your own, especially daughters? Perhaps that list above, only partial mind you, is their reason and why Jews are hated and shunned the world over and have been since time immemorial?
Like I said: You read, you verify, you decide.
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