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HBGary Federal CEO Aaron Barr Steps Down

Gunkerty Jeb writes "Embattled CEO Aaron Barr says he is stepping down from his post at HBGary Federal to allow the company to move on after members of the online mischief making group Anonymous hacked into HBGary Federal's computer network and published tens of thousands of company e-mail messages on the Internet. In an interview with Threatpost, Barr said that he is stepping down to allow himself and the company he ran to move on in the wake of the high profile hack."

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  1. owned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This will go down in history as an awesome example of the firepower of the fully armed and operational battlestation.

    1. Re:owned by spun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fully armed and operational, except for the bit that actually aims the weapons. Anonymous might demolish a genuine bad guy, or they might destroy the life of some innocent teenager. Being what it is, Anonymous has only a small chance of evolving into real hacktivism and away from it's "for the lulz" roots. That makes it even more dangerous than most vengeful vigilante groups. I mean, "That teenage girl is a camwhore!" is as much of a motivating battle-cry to Anonymous as "That guy is subverting the law to attack wikileaks." Needless to say, I'm happy this creep got his comeuppance. But I would much rather his downfall were accomplished through the rule of law and not vigilante justice. Still, when real justice is hopelessly corrupt, what else is there?

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    2. Re:owned by spun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh do they now? Classy. Hope you're the next one in the gunsights, dude. You need the perspective.

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    3. Re:owned by spun · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How is this not vigilante justice? Anonymous went outside the law to punish someone they see as an evildoer. That is pretty much the definition of vigilante justice.

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    4. Re:owned by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      I thought it was the awesome firepower of the LOIC.

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    5. Re:owned by nobodylocalhost · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just put this in perspective here... Let's take track records,

      This is what rule of law has accomplished.

      This is what rule of law asked these scumbags do

      And this is in the plans, not to mention DoJ recommended firms to BoA to do this.

      At this point I am wondering where is Thomas Jefferson when we need him now, and you honestly are thinking about the wellbeing of some teenager's personal on-line life? They don't even come close in term of scope! If I have to be a sacrifice for Anon in order to stump out the rampant corruption then so be it! I am Spartacus!

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    6. Re:owned by miserere+nobis · · Score: 2

      Well said, but there is another side to be considered, an alternate way to read the remarks. Something like "You should be the first to taste your own medicine," or "Very well, then I hope you have to live by your own rules if you're going to promote them as good for other people to endure" isn't necessarily completely accurately portrayed as "two wrongs make a right". If spun went out and actually brought about such an attack or tried to make one happen, that would be a stronger case for reading it the way you do.

    7. Re:owned by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wait - who "went after" who, first? Didn't Barr start this whole thing? Or, am I just getting senile, and imagining stuff? As I recall, Barr was intent on exposing some of Anonymous' top people - and Anonymous responded by destroying Barr's shoddy-assed network. Punished? No, Barr hasn't even been punished, merely exposed for the fraud that he is. As a Navy man, I would say that Anonymous has Damage Control down pat. Oh - the self appointed vigilante - that might be Barr. After all, he's the guy who was perfectly happy to bend, fold, and mutilate the law in order to go after Julian Assange, and any other high profile targets that might have helped inflate Barr's ego.

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    8. Re:owned by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      A couple nights ago Colbert had a rather amusing segment summarizing the chain of events. I believe a phrase similar to "Hey, look at that hornet's nest; I'm gonna stick my dick in it!" was used. Look it up, you'll laugh. :)

    9. Re:owned by vertinox · · Score: 2

      Anonymous might demolish a genuine bad guy, or they might destroy the life of some innocent teenager.

      FFS! People need to stop treating Anon as some organized group.

      If a flash mob helped a lady across the street in LA and another lynched a man in New York, would you consider them the same group of people?

      Serioiusly, its just like old time lynchings they used to have in the old days when a bunch of people got together and doled out random justice... Often picking the wrong person to extract it on (like the time a bunch of laid of car workers in Detroit killed a Korean man because they were pissed off at Japanese carmakers in the 1980's).

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    10. Re:owned by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 2

      A couple nights ago Colbert had a rather amusing segment summarizing the chain of events. I believe a phrase similar to "Hey, look at that hornet's nest; I'm gonna stick my dick in it!" was used. Look it up, you'll laugh. :)

      I decided to look this up because I missed that episode. It is pretty hilarious. Here is the link.

    11. Re:owned by AB3A · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does anyone wonder why Jefferson was one of the staunch supporters of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution? This is the answer. And no, I'm not speaking of guns in this case, I'm speaking of self defense against evil governance. We have laws against domestic surveillance without a court approved cause. The kind of information gathering that HBG perpetrated against Glenn Greenwald is exactly the reason why such laws exist.

      This is actually a very nice example of defensive action by people against a very nasty abuse of power by government.

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  2. yeah and more time with his family by inkscapee · · Score: 5, Funny

    and rehab, and the blahblahlblah usual excuses that mean "I don't know the first thing about security, but I have insider connections and can con almost anyone, especially other ignorant stupid CEOs. It's been a wonderful, lucrative experience! God bless, see you all in my new venture, securitized subprime mortgage loans!"

  3. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    And nothing of value was lost...

  4. Anon wins. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    FLAWLESS VICTORY

  5. Let me be the first to say... by SanityLapse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ha. HaHa. HaHaHaHa. Sure, some nasty Anon broke the law here. But if anybody ever had it coming, it was this guy.

  6. The moral of the story by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    I learned this years ago: Don't get into an online pissing contest. Just don't. Both sides inevitably lose.

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    1. Re:The moral of the story by fishexe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I learned this years ago: Don't get into an online pissing contest. Just don't. Both sides inevitably lose.

      Hard to see how the Anon side lost here. Their prestige is up, their deadly rep is more solid than ever, and still nobody knows who they are IRL. So maybe the lesson should be, "don't get into an online pissing contest, unless you really are the most badass hacker gang in history."

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    2. Re:The moral of the story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think the moral of the story was "Don't stick your penis into the hornet's nest."

    3. Re:The moral of the story by Predius · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anon provided more ammo for those who want to implement multiple forms of 'internet controls' or harsher punishment for 'cyber' crime. They just fortified the positions of those they're trying to scare off.

    4. Re:The moral of the story by spyder-implee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They also exposed the fraudulent plans of a major security firm. Shouldn't it fortify the position that corporations holding those kind of government contracts should come under more scrutiny?

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    5. Re:The moral of the story by dave562 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All that will happen is that HBGary's competitors will update their marketing material. "Don't pull an HBGary. Use XYZ Security instead."

    6. Re:The moral of the story by locallyunscene · · Score: 2

      I learned this years ago: Don't get into an online pissing contest. Just don't. Both sides inevitably lose.

      Hard to see how the Anon side lost here. Their prestige is up, their deadly rep is more solid than ever, and still nobody knows who they are IRL. So maybe the lesson should be, "don't get into an online pissing contest, unless you really are the most badass hacker gang in history."

      And a gov't connected security agency has logs and logs of data that were collected during the attack. This may not have been an intentional honey pot, but that doesn't mean it can't still be used that way unless the attackers were really good.

    7. Re:The moral of the story by cheesecake23 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the moral of the story was "Don't stick your penis into the hornet's nest."

      I'm all for citing Colbert, but you should at least give him the credit for the quote and provide a link, especially when the segment is so hilarious.

  7. Re:He wasn't fired? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You must be thinking of little people rules...

  8. Re:He wasn't fired? by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Stepping down" is basically the corporate-speak equivalent of seppuku. They get rid of his disgraced ass and in return, he gets to pretend he still has some dignity.

  9. Re:He wasn't fired? by peragrin · · Score: 3, Informative

    He partially owned the company. you can't fire someone like that. you have to buy them out.

    Which means he got a nice golden parachute too. Hopefully it was real gold and they kick him out of a large building with it.

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  10. Revisionist history anyone? by Chas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the argh-tickle.

    "By combining a SQL injection attack on HBGary's Web site with sophisticated social engineering attacks"

    Uhm. WHAT?

    Sophisticated? I wouldn't call a couple of e-mails from a hijacked account asking to back-door a server "sophisticated".

    What the HBGary hack was:

    Basic SQL Injection
    Weak passwords
    Password Re-use
    SIMPLE social engineering

    Your basic molotov cocktail of fail.

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    1. Re:Revisionist history anyone? by peragrin · · Score: 2

      It is sophisticated because the emails could have come from the person sending them. Proper grammar,similar writing styles, with enough background information to sound like it was legitimate.

      basically unless you were a close personal friend you couldn't easily tell the difference, unlike the $38.6 million that some guy who just emailed me has stashed in Libyan and is having a hard time getting it out safely.

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    2. Re:Revisionist history anyone? by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2

      Of course they're going to say it was some sophisticated uber attack that only ninja net gods could have done. Their stock and their reputation has taken enough of a beating. The truth would be FAR worse. "No, we were pwnt by really simple stuff like crappy passwords and ignoring basic safeguards. In the light of that though, may we work out a service contract with you to make you business secure?"

      Nope, not happening. The truth wouldn't do anything but tank them harder. Lies would be pretty much your only choice.

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    3. Re:Revisionist history anyone? by PraiseBob · · Score: 3

      Their attack was vastly more complex than anything Kevin Mitnick ever did, and he is arguably the most famous hacker in history.

  11. and... by woboyle · · Score: 2

    This butthead should be in rehab, not running a "serious" security company...

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  12. Re:He wasn't fired? by newcastlejon · · Score: 4, Informative

    He partially owned the company. you can't fire someone like that. you have to buy them out.

    That depends on how much a portion he owned. If, say, he owned 15% of the shares and the other 85% of the shareholders say GTFO then that's just what he has to do. He'll still own shares but he won't be CEO or what have you.

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  13. Disturbance in the Dark Side? by mfh · · Score: 2

    Emperor Palpatine: "I felt a great disturbance in the dark side, my apprentice, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in joy and were suddenly heard by those in power. I fear something terrible has happened."

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  14. From TFA by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >Leavy said that the company's partners had been supportive following the hack. The proposals for Bank of America and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce were simply responses to requests for services that HBGary had received. "HBGary Federal is a services company and they were asked to develop proposals," she told Threatpost.

    I see. That fact that the "services" are illegal, immoral, and unethical really doesn't enter in, because they're a service company and this is a service. Sort of like a hit man is just an HR professional specializing in staff reduction services.

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  15. Re:He wasn't fired? by sjames · · Score: 2

    And the money. They always shower them in big piles of money.

  16. Re:I miss greatly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    god damnit, it's not an "Anonymous" mask it's a Guy Fawkes mask. the historical connection is important as it's apt as all hell.

    There should be no reason etc, see you next bonfire.

  17. Re:He wasn't fired? by fishexe · · Score: 2

    How was this man allowed to keep his job after his shenanigans were made public?

    They couldn't fire him without getting the whole board together and that was cumbersome. Didn't you read the chat logs?

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  18. A sign of the times? by Fallout2man · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You know in many ways I'm starting to wonder if the rise of Anonymous could be considered a legitimate political/social phenomena linked to the recession and how people feel increasingly left out of the political process/system because of big money buying our congress' collective ears? Widespread piracy is widely considered by many to be an economic indicator that the market has become too one-sided, maybe this is the political equivalent?

    I saw a post suggesting they may be targeting the Koch Brothers for their involvement in the current Wisconsin/multi-state effort to completely bust Unions. Is this finally the people striking back? Not to say I'm not thankful someone's taking the time to respond, but oh what a sad thing it says about humanity that we have to resort to these types of solutions to keep from getting completely steamrolled by the almighty dollar?

  19. Re:He wasn't fired? by drsmithy · · Score: 2

    More likely, he doesn't get the same benefits for "quitting" that he would get for being "fired".

    You have that backwards. Most likely, he gets all the benefits from "quitting", and would get none for being "fired" (though these days CxOs are so brazen in their greed that their employment contracts probably give them benefits even if they were fired for raping children in the company boardroom).

  20. Re:He wasn't fired? by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

    though these days CxOs are so brazen in their greed that their employment contracts probably give them benefits even if they were fired for raping children in the company boardroom

    When did that become a firing-worthy offense for these guys?

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  21. anonymous chooses targets that target it. by decora · · Score: 2

    the only reason it went against scientology is because scientology was attacking random people all over the internet with lawsuits. that is why anonymous fought back.

    anonymous is never going to go after drug lords or human traffickers or etc. they go after people who @#$$ with them. The HBGary guy was going after them directly, trying to 'out' them by scraping facebook etc. that is why they went at him.

  22. The real reason he is leaving: by hey! · · Score: 2

    He shot Alexander Humilton.

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  23. Re:May I recommend: by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

    Actually, most people do not care, and if you bring it up, they will shrug it off as if it is something to be expected. For all the high ideals on which our country was founded, most people just do not care, as long as they can get their entertainment and celebrity gossip and whatnot.

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  24. Ah, nice logic by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So basically, I shouldn't use any freedoms because that might give fuel to someone wishing to limit them?

    So gay people, don't be gay or people might forbid it.

    A spine, you need one. Or afraid if you get one, people will forbid it?

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    1. Re:Ah, nice logic by fishexe · · Score: 2

      And if the antics of Anonymous were 100% legal, you'd have a point. As many of their antics are clearly illegal (like hacking into a security firm), you really have no damned point and just look like an idiot. You are not free to break the law.

      Laws are nothing more and nothing less than devices for controlling people.

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    2. Re:Ah, nice logic by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are not free to break the law.

      Yes, yes you are. There may be consequences.

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  25. Good riddance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Frankly I lost all respect for the guy back when the sonuvabitch shot Alexander Humilton.

  26. Irrelevant by Rix · · Score: 2

    They could find and prosecute every single person even tertiarily involved and the hive would simply get stronger.

    We are all Anonymous.

    1. Re:Irrelevant by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

      We are all Anonymous.

      No, you have to tick that box up there ^

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  27. Re:Majorus Cokhup by AndroidCat · · Score: 2

    Considering where his head is located, I'm amazed that he could get his foot in there too.

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