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New Hampshire Man Sentenced To 7 Years For Robo-Calling Malware

alphadogg writes with this excerpt from Network World: "A New Hampshire man who made $8 million by installing unwanted dial-up software on computers and then forcing them to call expensive premium telephone numbers was handed down an 82-month sentence this week. Prosecutors say that between 2003 and 2007, Asu Pala and others put together a lucrative business by setting up premium telephone numbers in Germany — similar to the 1-900 numbers used in the US — and then infecting German PCs with software that would automatically dial the numbers for short periods of time." Do that many people still have modems attached?

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  1. Modem Tax by AnonGCB · · Score: 1

    Only way to get rid of them.

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    1. Re:Modem Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us still use modems to connect to the internet where high speed internet is not available and neither is cellular service.

    2. Re:Modem Tax by wvmarle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nowadays modems are really rare; it's hard to find one. My server has one connected, which I bought about seven years ago, just to receive faxes. Not easy to find a shop selling them back then; will be harder now. It has never been used for a data connection. Nonetheless they are still available. Dial-up internet is even still available.

      This story started in 2003, when modem use was quite common at least in Europe. In 2001/2002 I worked for about half a year at the telephone help desk of a major Dutch ISP, dial-up was for many people the main way to connect to the Internet. I recall even a serious reorganisation of the telephone system to accomodate all those dial-up users. At the time probably still more dial-up users than ADSL or cable users. By 2003 dial-up must still have been very common. And people that switched possibly simply had their modem still connected. Indeed nowadays this kind of fraud would not work anymore.

      What I encountered very often when talking to people was that they had multiple dial-in icons in their network settings. One from our ISP, sometimes one or two from a previous ISP, and a handful of icons that they didn't even realise are there. Most were porn dialers, installed by malicious sites (usually porn sites), that would try to dial expensive numbers. This sounds very much like what these people have been sentenced for.

      Anyway it's not surprising that it worked in those years, as modems were simply a really common way to connect to the Internet. It wasn't fast but it worked, and it worked on existing infrastructure. Add to that the plethora of security issues in Win98 and WinXP and these things happened - and happened a lot.

      The most remarkable part of this story, besides that such a common crime even appears on the /. home page, is that the culprits have been caught and sentenced.

    3. Re:Modem Tax by isopropanol · · Score: 2

      Over the last couple of years here (not europe) there's been a big push by the Cable (TV coaxial) company introducing their own phone system. a couple of months after switching many people find their computer won't POST. I remove the PCI winmodem and it POSTs OK... most of them didn't even know they had a modem until I handed it to them. I don't know what's causng it but it's too common to be coincidence.

    4. Re:Modem Tax by Mastacheata87 · · Score: 2

      There are some (pretty big) rural areas here in Germany, where people can't get xDSL or cable even if they wanted.
      I know of at least 5 villages with about 100 citizens each in 20km radius that don't have any chance but dialup networking for Internet Access.

      In some areas you can get Networking via UMTS/(E-)GPRS, but mostly it's not faster than POTS or ISDN Dial Up.

      That's also why some of the lower frequencies used for LTE/4G Networks were given to provider with the prerequisite to install networks in those areas before the frequencies may be used in cities.

    5. Re:Modem Tax by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      Interesting.

      I have a similar problem with one of my computers: when I have my phone (Android smart phone) connected to the USB (for charging;USB is also used for downloaded data etc) it gets stuck on the memory test. That caused me a lot of frustration to figure out! Other computers don't have this problem.

      Anyway to come back to your point: it would be most interesting if people don't know they have a modem, AND have this modem connected to a phone line at the same time!

      I can imagine many have a modem as standard part in a computer which was still quite common a few years ago; so people with an older PC simply have one in it.

    6. Re:Modem Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PC is probably trying to read or boot off USB device. Some BIOSes check the device ahead of time.

    7. Re:Modem Tax by Nursie · · Score: 1

      A lot of laptops still have them built in. My three year old home laptop does, and the six month old one I have here at work does also.

      I guess this is due to them being used for travelling quite a lot. Though I can't remember the last hotel I went to that didn't have some sort of wireless or wired net available. And I spent four months in remote parts of Australia last year...

    8. Re:Modem Tax by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      The new thinkpads coming out late march will still have modems.

      And why not, they probably cost pennies in components these days.

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    9. Re:Modem Tax by xenobyte · · Score: 1

      The most remarkable part of this story, besides that such a common crime even appears on the /. home page, is that the culprits have been caught and sentenced.

      They probably just followed the money... Germany is a strict country when it comes to rules and regulations so I'm guessing that the premium numbers used required a german bank account which require valid ID (they check it!) to set up. The guy probably used his own name or some company traceable to him to set it up, and then it's simple to find the guy. He probably counted on it being an issue with a foreign country and a language barrier, but no such luck. It takes some time but it can be done.

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    10. Re:Modem Tax by Targon · · Score: 1

      Many older low end systems do not provide enough power to the USB ports to handle the demand by USB devices during the POST process, and this will cause the problem. I have seen it where just unplugging the USB cable to the printer is enough to work around the problem. Low end Intel based Dells are the systems I run into that have had this problem.

    11. Re:Modem Tax by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      This story started in 2003, when modem use was quite common at least in Europe.

      Exactly- hence why the editor's comment "Do that many people still have modems attached?" was pointless, given that even the summary it sat beside made clear that the events in question happened between four and eight years ago.

      And yeah, most people- including myself- still *were* using dial-up eight years ago, whereas I doubt very many are now (though probably still more than one would suspect).

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    12. Re:Modem Tax by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Many older low end systems do not provide enough power to the USB ports to handle the demand by USB devices during the POST process

      Aha! I had that problem when I bought a scanner (for my circa 2002 P4 system) over 7 years ago... and I never knew what caused it. Bit late now (not my main computer any more!) but thanks for the info.

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    13. Re:Modem Tax by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      when I have my phone (Android smart phone) connected to the USB (for charging;USB is also used for downloaded data etc) it gets stuck on the memory test.

      It will if it's on the mode selector screen, since it announces itself as a USB disk but doesn't actually respond to any probes. Set it to be a USB disk and it should boot just fine.

    14. Re:Modem Tax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a radio modem in my laptop. It's pretty ancient but still seems to work with the cell networks.
      The only thing I need on the road is to check email and grab the occasional text file from my server, so I dial in to my home server. Both run Linux so I use a secure SSH terminal.
      This actually works out cheaper than a broadband dongle, and I can take advantage of free calls to land lines.

    15. Re:Modem Tax by isopropanol · · Score: 1

      Yup, they had no idea they had a modem, but it was plugged in. Computer must have been installed by someone else (a contractor or neighbourhood kid) or they have forgotten.

    16. Re:Modem Tax by BillX · · Score: 1

      A minor clarification; this behavior does not necessarily mean a system is "low end", only that it is standards-compliant :) Per the USB spec, a USB device may not exceed 1 unit load (100mA) from the port prior to enumeration; after this it can request up to 500mA. In general the BIOS provides enough USB support to get legacy HID devices like keyboard operable, not handle power and bandwidth negotiations, etc.

      How well devices obey this limitation is another matter.

      Ironically, it's the low-end systems that forgo per-port current control and simply drop a 1-2A polyfuse inline with +5V, letting the device draw as much as it likes at any time.

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  2. That will teach him! by vvaduva · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gotta love the punitive vs retributive approach to justice in the West. Why not make the guy work towards paying back the victims instead or locking him up for 7 years and forcing the victims or us the taxpayers to pay for his food, clothing, heating, cable and housing?

    1. Re:That will teach him! by k8to · · Score: 1

      Are the victims well identified? I like the idea, but sometimes it's hard to restore to thousands of victims who may not be well documented over a period starting 8 years ago.

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    2. Re:That will teach him! by vvaduva · · Score: 2

      It's all billing data in a modern country, Germany, with a 30 year data retention limitation for many financial/legal documents. I am sure it could be done if they really wanted to do it...

    3. Re:That will teach him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      He was also fined 7.9 Million USD and owes 2.2 Million in back taxes.

      Not exactly the typical getting off with a slap on the wrist...

    4. Re:That will teach him! by Nursie · · Score: 1

      It's good to see a custodial sentence AND significant fines.

      Too often we hear about these guys getting off with a slap on the wrist and a fine equivalent to less than 10% of their ill gotten gains.

    5. Re:That will teach him! by shadowofwind · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because if we start forcing people to work to pay for their crimes, before long it morphs into a slave program with people being convicted on bogus charges for the sake of their labor. This has been tried in parts of the US in the past, and it has been a problem. The people who control the system don't have close to enough integrity to stand that kind of conflict of interest.

    6. Re:That will teach him! by mr100percent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's more to make an example and prevent others from thinking of doing the same.

    7. Re:That will teach him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your not exactly smart. That 7.9 + 2.2 Million can be wiped away by declaring bankruptcy!

    8. Re:That will teach him! by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing he's already spent or hidden the money. What are the consequences to him if he doesn't pay the fine?

    9. Re:That will teach him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The next time someone rips you off for millions, or commits violent crime against you, maybe you can hire him to mow your lawn and pay off his debt to society.

      But for many of us in "The West" tend to think jail sentences are too kind. Perhaps we should implement Taliban or Chinese remedies, then we wouldn't have to worry about food, clothing, heating, cable and housing.

    10. Re:That will teach him! by Capt.+Skinny · · Score: 2

      forcing the victims or us the taxpayers to pay for his food, clothing, heating, cable and housing

      No worries. With the Internal Revenue Service collecting back taxes on his illegally earned income, he is (well, his non-US-taxpaying-victims are) more than paying his way through prison. In the end, it's the US government that profits from his crimes -- some agency expects a $7.9 million fine as income, and the IRS wants $2.2 million in taxes. Sounds to me like the guy owes a debt to society, and the wrong society is trying to cash in on it.

    11. Re:That will teach him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, some millions of his gains were seized by the US authorities and now they are looking for the victims in Germany. Not to feverishly, of course.
      And it does not have to be a modem - bqack in that time ISDN-Adapters were still very common in Germany.

    12. Re:That will teach him! by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Yeah Kevin Trudeau is a case in point. Talk about the cost of doing business.

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    13. Re:That will teach him! by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that it would require more staff than the current system does. In an ordinary prison it is controlled quite easily where the inmates are allowed to go, what they are allowed to do, and since they are all in the same general area you need less people to watch all of them. But if you sent them out to work for their crimes the job would either have to be something where they are also always in the same general area with controllable exits so that watching all of them wouldn't prove overwhelming, or you could only send very few select ones to 'work.' If they were sent to many different places you simply wouldn't be able to keep such a leash on them without hiring more people and that would defeat the whole purpose of 'working' in the first place.

    14. Re:That will teach him! by mapkinase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Why not make the guy work towards paying back the victims " this is unlikely. How much of $30M Simpson paid back to his victim's families?

      "punitive vs retributive" you forgot the deterrent component - that is what important. Geeks and nerds (perpetrators of such crimes) are afraid of the prison much more than street-tough guys (perpetrators of conventional off-line crimes).

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    15. Re:That will teach him! by hjrnunes · · Score: 2

      While it very well could require more staff, I think it's worth it.

      Also, GP says that the people in the system do not have enough integrity, but they still don't have it now, so I don't really see that it would be much worse. I think the current penal model in the West has two issues that we really need to deal with: a) efficiency and b) retribution . And I think they're closely related.

      I've given some thought to this and I think that first, we have to separate violent offenders from non-violent. Violent people are the hardest to deal with and in the most serious cases, I think there's really no choice but to lock them up, although it raises the question of how's it going to be when they're released. (At least in countries with no life sentences).

      But non-violent (or less seriously violent) offenders, don't really need to spend their whole day just doing nothing, hanging around with other criminals, inevitably exposed to even worse influences than themselves. They can be doing something useful for both themselves and society.
      I thought up something along these lines: All elegible (non-violent) offenders, would have to exercise a mandatory occupation, and be assigned a base salary (leveled with minimum wage where it exists) but they will not be able to touch the significant part of it until the end of the sentence. All expenses would be payed for by the offender (taken from base salary).
      In fact, sentences might become a value that the offender would be condemned to generate through work, instead of a time length. Each offender could server his/her sentence at a preferred pace.

      I know this is quite vague and some points are quite difficult like, how to assign an occupation to each offender? How to make them work? How to stop it from becoming slavery?
      These are difficult questions but I think the pros really out-weight the cons: Offenders wouldn't be losing their time while in jail, they'd be doing something productive to themselves and society. Finishing their sentence, they'll have something to live on while trying to find a new job outside. Which would be easier since they haven't just spent 5 or 10 years doing nothing, but instead learned and gained expertise on some trade all those years. And, in case the sentence was wrong and the condemned person is actually innocent, he's in a much more favorable position because the time served was not a complete waste. The state would apply a suitable multiplier to the base salary, and that person could at least look at the time being locked as an intensive period of work with substantial dividends. Might not be much, but it's definitely better than the current situation.

      This is just my two cents, but I think it's clear that our penal system is obsolete. It is the most obsolete system implemented in our societies. In it's essencial form, it dates back centuries ago. Someone commits a crime? Jail him.
      This doesn't work anymore. A lot of people, especially those that grow up and live in poor neighborhoods and live amongst crime every day, no longer face prison as a punishment. They face it as something they'll just have to endure someday, for whatever reason. They adopt a "stoic" perspective and they just take it. Once they're out, it's business as usual. It's a price they're willing to pay for keeping up with their illegal activities. Furthermore, while inside they get to share experience and knowledge and status with fellow "stoics", possibly finding new partners and contacts in the crime world and building reputation. That is, they're are doing the exact oppose of what they should be doing in prison: rehabilitate. Instead they're sinking even more in crime. At the taxpayers expense.
      We should be weary of slavery sure, but we shouldn't let that stop us from improving and changing the system. Just locking people up solves nothing. We need to change people. And people do change. There are plenty examples out there. Prisons should be transformed into schools as much as possible, special schools allright, but schools nonetheless. Places where learning happens.

    16. Re:That will teach him! by cvtan · · Score: 1

      Kevin Trudeau makes me want to punch out the TV every time I see his smarmy face and baseless claims on TV!!!! Time for a Valium.

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    17. Re:That will teach him! by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      But non-violent (or less seriously violent) offenders, don't really need to spend their whole day just doing nothing, hanging around with other criminals, inevitably exposed to even worse influences than themselves. They can be doing something useful for both themselves and society.
      I thought up something along these lines: All elegible (non-violent) offenders, would have to exercise a mandatory occupation, and be assigned a base salary (leveled with minimum wage where it exists) but they will not be able to touch the significant part of it until the end of the sentence. All expenses would be payed for by the offender (taken from base salary).
      In fact, sentences might become a value that the offender would be condemned to generate through work, instead of a time length. Each offender could server his/her sentence at a preferred pace.

      You still didn't address the "cheap labour" part.

      Imagine getting pulled over for speeding and having the cop jail you for some bogus violation. Now you're being forced to do your regular job, except earning minimum wage rather than whatever you normally got. Employers will be all over this - why pay you $100K/year when they can simply bribe a public official to get you jailed and have you doing the exact same job at $20k/year? Even if they paid the official $50k for the task, they're still ahead $30k. If you can get jailed on false charges for 5 years, that's $100k payout instead of $500k, which gives the company a huge incentive to corrupt easily-corrupted officials. And that's just one person - if a company needs 10 people, well, instead of $1M/year salary, give them $100k/year, and indenture them for 5 years, a savings of $4.5M. The public officials can take $2.5M and the company is still $2M ahead (CEO bonus!).

    18. Re:That will teach him! by cdrguru · · Score: 1

      One of the objections to letting criminals work is that stops being punishment. One of the most severe punishments you can inflict on people is to isolate them away from anyone they can reasonably interact with. When you take away the punishment for a lot of people there really is no difference between what they experience in their day-to-day lives before and after being convicted of a crime.

      The problem today is that for a lot of inner-city minorities life is pretty hopeless. Prison isn't a lot different and they are with other people of their similar situation - their friends are either in prison or on their way there. So it isn't so much punishment for them, just isolation. Being somewhat confined in a different place. Not so bad, really, considering that all concerns about food and shelter are taken away.

      Why do you think there are so many people in prison in the US today? You can point to locking people up for excessive parking tickets or minor drug offenses but that really isn't the answer. If prison was a completely unpleasent experience they would do whatever it took to avoid it. Instead we have at least one if not two generations of people that look at it as inviteable and really not so bad. The end result is that getting caught for some crime isn't much, if any, of a deterrent at all and with the current conviction rate at like 20% for most crimes it is clear that crime certainly does pay.

      About people changing, I would say once you take an inner-city minority person that has grown up wit 50% of the people in their lives being involved in crime and some fraction of those being in prison you end up with a person that simply doesn't have any respect for what we would like to call "law and order". They will do whatever to get by and likely view prison as one more oppressive element in their lives piled on top of countless others. The view is that there is nothing that can be done about the oppressors - every other minority, white people, the government, the economy, unemployment, etc. So why not grab whatever is there for the taking? I don't think you can change people that much in an environment where they are constantly surrounded with reinforcing elements - all their friends from the inner city.

      To really change people you would have to put them into a completely different environment. With no skills, limited education and a history of considering everyone outside their socioeconomic and racial background as oppressors this would be a real challange. Maybe put them on an tropical island somewhere where all they have to do is gather coconuts and mangoes. A few years of that might result in real change.

    19. Re:That will teach him! by hjrnunes · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's definitely an issue. Of course, I'm not in the business of making laws or whatever. I'm not even saying that my thoughts are better than any other. The real issue here (like someone posted in reply) is the environment in which most offenders live. That's what makes them probable candidates for prison. The point I was trying to make is that prisons don't solve the problem that makes people go to prison. Nowadays, prisons are just dumpsters. Expensive, dangerous dumpsters of people that somehow failed to observe the rules. Rules that might very well be unjust in the first place.

      There's got be a better system. The ideal scenario would be to somehow make people observant of the rules. But today, we do that by making disrespecting the rules bear very negative consequences for those that do it. This is wrong. The Crime doesn't pay approach has failed. It pays. And pays well. We should be shifting to something like Lawful pays. But that's going to be hard to change for as long as people are living in poverty ghettos. So how does one change that?

      Again I'm going to suggest something which I thought of, but it's really just a starting point for a broader discussion. If environment makes you, then change the environment. But what's the environment? I'd say that, grosso modo, the environment is the people. So change the people around, and you change the environment. For example, instead of making social housing neighborhoods, why not rescue derelict of abandoned buildings, rebuild them, and house people there? Disperse poverty amongst richer people. It'll make the poor people see what's really like to be "rich". What's it like to live a normal, working life. Also, most people will help poor people if they're there to help. I mean, no one can reasonably expect people to go into the poor neighborhoods offering jobs or food, except for NGO's. But if you would have someone needing help in your building or street, maybe you'd go and offer some help, or suggest a job you know of, or offer some food or medicine. Or even watch the kids while their parent(s) go to their job, or even just to have a chat and a cup of coffee. This is the help most people need to get on track.

      By isolating poor people, we're taking away the community from them. The Christian ideal of poor charity is bogus. When people are fighting for their lives, they tend to care only about themselves. Only after they provided for themselves are they going to help their next. At least this is the scenario we should be working with. Anything better than this is not realistic. So put the poor people living with the rich people. Because rich people are the ones that can (and will, I believe) help. (by "rich" I mean "richer")

    20. Re:That will teach him! by hjrnunes · · Score: 1

      Yep, I'd say you're right. See reply above.

    21. Re:That will teach him! by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      You should read up on what Burt Cain has been doing to Louisiana's Angola Penetentiary(sp?). The prisoners there make crafts, which they sell direct to the public a few times a year during the prison rodeo. Several inmates get to go to churches around Louisiana to sing/preach etc. The prison is known as 'The Farm' because it is actually a farm, prisoners work the farm, and eat what is produced; this provides several benefits: cheap food, large areas of flat land make it harder to escape and learning skills as you talked about earlier.

    22. Re:That will teach him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "punitive vs retributive" you forgot the deterrent component - that is what important. Geeks and nerds (perpetrators of such crimes) are afraid of the prison much more than street-tough guys (perpetrators of conventional off-line crimes).

      There is no deterrent. If there was, this guy, arguably a geek and afraid of prison, would not have done what he did in the first place.

    23. Re:That will teach him! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      "punitive vs retributive" you forgot the deterrent component - that is what important. Geeks and nerds (perpetrators of such crimes) are afraid of the prison much more than street-tough guys (perpetrators of conventional off-line crimes).

      Depends on the jurisdiction - that line of reasoning would be forbidden in New Hampshire, where the Bill of Rights specifies reform as being the true design of all punishments.

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    24. Re:That will teach him! by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      "that line of reasoning would be forbidden in New Hampshire" that's understandable, but what is your point: vvaduva was not questioning legality, but common sense.

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  3. peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in sy by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2

    peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in systems may just be there for faxing.

  4. Dear god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where they connected by headset couplers, or was Mitnick reading off of a teletype & whistling into the reciever!?

  5. Few Questions by Murdoch5 · · Score: 0

    A) Did these people not scan there computer reasonably enough to detect the malware.
    B) Did these people run a completely insecure OS allowing them to be infected
    C) DId these people have enough common sense to run firewall software to prevent the infection
    D) Did they not notice there modems dial out to a number they didn't authorize

    Now I will grant that this guy should be punished, BUT i think there is or should be a reasonable assumption that computer users have to protect and check there own PC's and it's not entirely his fault, Now if the malware dialed once for a short short burst and never again then it can all be put on the guy who developed the malware, however if there was enough time in the attack to scan and detect the malware then he's not entirely to blame.

    If these people didn't take the right steps to protect there computers then it's kind of like someone with an unsecured access point complaining when other people use there router, to a lesser extent even a WEP encrypted router. For once can we point out the fact that most users, present company excluded are really just not secure enough on there PC's .

    Over all if there's nothing the users could do and they were completely the victim then fine, they can't be blamed. I'd be very very surprised if most of the reason this happened wasn't because the PC's were unsecure, running a horrible OS and sitting on a unsecured network with no firewall and virus/ spyware/ malware software.

    1. Re:Few Questions by NFN_NLN · · Score: 2

      A) Did these people not scan there computer reasonably enough to detect the malware.
      B) Did these people run a completely insecure OS allowing them to be infected
      C) DId these people have enough common sense to run firewall software to prevent the infection
      D) Did they not notice there modems dial out to a number they didn't authorize

      That's why I never leave the house without wearing a bullet-proof vest, a lead helmet and a condom... too many crazies out there.

    2. Re:Few Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, by your logic, if a victim is being carjacked by a man with a firearm, and is subsequently shot and killed because he refused to give up his vehicle, then it the victim's fault?

    3. Re:Few Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a condom... too many crazies out there.

      Are you male or female? Sorry, thats the first though that crossed my mind, when I read your post.

    4. Re:Few Questions by snkiz · · Score: 1

      Its simple really, the same situation as the idiot who left a bill on the driver seat. You have a choice, you can be aware of the dangers in the world, and try to mitigate them. Or you can be a brazen fool, and reap the rewards that entails. In this scenario, an insured car, in a lawful state is not something worth dying over. The "victim" was at fault in that he could have chosen to hand over the keys and call the police. A pain in the ass, but he'd still be alive, and he'd probably get a new car out of it.

    5. Re:Few Questions by c0lo · · Score: 1

      That's why I never leave the house without wearing a bullet-proof vest, a lead helmet and a condom... too many crazies out there.

      Pardon me, I appreciate the basic caution in you advice above, but it's still silly... You see: lead helmets are still not as effective as tin foil hats...

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    6. Re:Few Questions by c0lo · · Score: 1

      The "victim" was at fault in that he could have chosen to hand over the keys and call the police

      In some places, it is not enough. Sao Paolo - Nov 2010

      "They had to stop at the red light and then all of a sudden five people were around the car, one with a machine gun, and they opened the door and took two rucksacks and disappeared. So nobody was injured."

      McLaren's Button was the victim of an attempted armed robbery about an hour earlier but his police driver smashed his way through traffic to escape when the gunmen were seen approaching.

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    7. Re:Few Questions by Aeternitas827 · · Score: 1

      Now if the malware dialed once for a short short burst and never again then it can all be put on the guy who developed the malware, however if there was enough time in the attack to scan and detect the malware then he's not entirely to blame.

      From the article AND summary:

      ...and then infecting German PCs with software that would automatically dial the numbers for short periods of time.

      Its very possible that the situation you present here was what was happening, the wording isn't really clear (it could be intended to mean short-duration calls, or only a certain number of days/hours/etc before shutting itself down).

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    8. Re:Few Questions by snkiz · · Score: 1

      I don't see your point, in one instance the victims cooperated and no one was hurt. In the other, the police were there to handle it, and again no one was hurt. Or were you trying to back me up?

    9. Re:Few Questions by andrewla · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A) Did these people not scan their computer reasonably enough to detect the malware.
      If the scanner was able to pick it up.

      B) Did these people run a completely insecure OS allowing them to be infected
      Should MS Windows users be banned from using the Internet ? Well yes they should, but I cannot see that happening.

      C) DId these people have enough common sense to run firewall software to prevent the infection
      What good is a firewall, the hardware port to the modem needs to be open to use the Internet. End of story.

      >D) Did they not notice there modems dial out to a number they didn't authorise
      Not if the malware waited till there was no keyboard activity, or the melware turned off the modem sound before it called.
      Even if you were using the phone line when it tried to call you might not spot it, just a couple of clicks while the modem tried to get a dial tone.
      The only indication is if you tried to make a call in the middle of the malware call, and even then, a lot of people might blame the phone company.


      Yes it is entirely his own fault.

    10. Re:Few Questions by internettoughguy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yes, she is stupid to not wear that Hijab. the rapist is still guilty and everything, but she is still stupid.

      FTFY

    11. Re:Few Questions by c0lo · · Score: 1

      I don't see your point, in one instance the victims cooperated and no one was hurt. In the other, the police were there to handle it, and again no one was hurt.
      Or were you trying to back me up?

      Sort of backing you when saying "you can be aware of the dangers in the world, and try to mitigate them." Just pointing out that the advisable behavior varies with the place and circumstances.

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    12. Re:Few Questions by gsslay · · Score: 2

      I don't care for your (oligatory) car example. Here's a better one.

      You leave your car parked while you go to the store. It has a new shiny red paint job and looks glorious. You come back and someone has scratched their key all the way up the side of it.

      The vandal is still guilty and everything, but you are stupid for going out in a shiny red car. You should know, if not completely ignorant, that there are vandals who get pleasure out of damaging shiny paintwork. So you should paint your car blotchy matt puce green, or not drive it.

      Ask your friends, they'll tell you how stupid you were being. You're tempting otherwise innocent citizens to get their keys out and commit a crime they would never dream of otherwise. Stay at home, and for god sake, cover that car up. We don't care how great it looks, have you no shame?

    13. Re:Few Questions by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Yes.

      If you live in an area where such vandalism is common or you frequently visit such an area then it is unwise to spend a lot of money on the painting of your car. Why? Because it is going to be vandalized anyway and you most likely will not know who was the culprit, so you will not be able to get compensation from him, therefore you will just lose the money.

      Where I live, thieves sometimes smash car windows even if there is a (possibly empty) cigarette pack inside, as such, if you leave your cigarettes (or something more valuable) inside the car as you leave it, you either are stupid (in thinking that it won't happen to you) or just ignorant (and do not know that your window can be smashed just for a cigarette pack).

      I never said innocent citizens though. Criminals are like some elements of nature or something. They are there, you can sometimes get compensation from them (assuming you survive the attack (otherwise it will be your family who gets the compensation), the police manages to catch the criminal, the criminal does not bribe his way out, there is enough evidence for the court to convict him etc) if such compensation is possible (if you are not dead, do not get a permanent disability etc), but usually it's a good idea to reduce the probability that it is you who becomes their victim. Do not leave valuable things inside your car, do not display your new and expensive phone in a dark alley or near a group of thugs, lock your car, lock your home. Just like you protect yourself from lightning, cold, wild animals etc, you have to protect yourself from criminals.

      Do you teach your kids (or did your parents teach you when you were a kid) to not take candy from strangers and not get in their cars alone? Why? Why not just assume that all people are nice and if some stranger offers a candy, he is just sharing and has no malicious intent? And if some stranger does something bad, well, it still was not wrong to get into his windowless van.

    14. Re:Few Questions by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      It's rather easy to encrypt modem data, so well it does have to be open, it doesn't have to be unsecured. I'm still not sure it's entirely his fault, I think there is some ownership that needs to be placed the people who's computers carried out the act of dialing the numbers. Just like your responsible if a kid falls into your pool if it's not blocked off properly, you should be responsible if you computer is not secured properly and carry's out an act such as this.

      The hardware port needs to be open yes, but the hardware port can still have simple rules set on it, not to mention you can decrypt on SOME modems, not all but some. It's actually a CCNA lab you can take during the training. I'm NOT saying that these people would know enough or should know enough to configure modem based network security but none the less it is possible to have a secure modem.

    15. Re:Few Questions by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Generally, shiny red cars are intended to tempt beautiful young women to get in and give you hand jobs, not to tempt delinquents to key them. That they more often attract the latter than the former is irrelevant.

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  6. You tell 'em Timothy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do that many people still have modems attached?

    Oh yea! Why can't the world be 1337 H4x0r5 like america, where everybody has teh T1.

    1. Re:You tell 'em Timothy! by __aatirs3925 · · Score: 1

      T1 is pretty slow, common DSL is faster than T1 connection. T3 on the other hand runs at about 44.6Mbps which is fairly decent, but truthfully anything over 3Mbps with a decent pipeline is fast enough since web-servers don't allocate their entire bandwidth to a single user, however sites like Youtube require you to have at the very least 13 or 14mbps. However, this is straying from the point that the majority of the world-wide-web is connected via HSI (200kbps+), and I know you were trying to troll but the United States is ranked about #30 as far as average internet speed.

      Going back on topic, it's not surprising that this kind of scam still exists. I remember dialer malware used to be very popular back in the day. I think there was a /. article recently about how most of AOL's consumers are by those who forgot they had the service or just don't mind having it as a secondary service. Funny yet sad stuff.

  7. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After living with someone who was forced by her work to maintain a landline for faxing, the very thought of faxing fills me with rage to this day.

    I would gladly sponsor a virus which infected and violently blew up fax modems.

  8. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Geminii · · Score: 2

    Precisely. Faxes also have legal statuses that email doesn't, in some jurisdictions, so faxing is still a staple in government departments, the legal profession, and in B2B transactions.

    I've also never heard of a virus managing to successfully infect a fax.

  9. Modem??? by Codeman125 · · Score: 1, Funny

    What's a modem?

    1. Re:Modem??? by LongearedBat · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Mod 'em"; plural for "mod it", meaning you can mod multiple posts at once.

    2. Re:Modem??? by mirix · · Score: 1

      Modulator-demodulator. Handy for putting a few bits over an analog line.

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    3. Re:Modem??? by operagost · · Score: 1

      My son says it has something to do with my phone line here. Let me pull on it and see whaNO CARRIER

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  10. Net profit? by cultiv8 · · Score: 1

    So they made 16.5m and had to pay 10.1m, netting about 5.4m. Was it worth it?

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    1. Re:Net profit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If gets 7 years prison, and 771,429 is more than his annual salary during that period would otherwise be, probably. That is of course, assuming you can do something during those 7 years to make life meaningful, maybe write a book or write some code, I imagine white collar prison over there is lenient enough to do that sort of thing.

    2. Re:Net profit? by mrnobo1024 · · Score: 1

      That was a different case (in Austria, not New Hampshire); this guy only made $8M.

    3. Re:Net profit? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      So the whole thing goes like this: "YOu stole 8 million bucks; go to your room for 8 years!".
      I would take the shot. I mean, I wouldn't be able to make 1 mil/year even if I willingly let burly illiterate dudes pound my ass every night for money.

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    4. Re:Net profit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      --I would take the shot. I mean, I wouldn't be able to make 1 mil/year even if I willingly let burly illiterate dudes pound my ass every night for money.

      ++I would take the shot. I mean, I wouldn't be able to make 1 mil/year even if I willingly let burly illiterate black dudes pound my ass every night for money.

    5. Re:Net profit? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      I'm colorblind. Don't care :)

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  11. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by muindaur · · Score: 1

    Yeah, faxing IS NOT necessary AT ALL.

    Why?

    All-in-one printers. It's better to just scan the document files, archive them to a zip(if you have to use .jpg instead of .zip.)

    This is how I get and sign documents for my insurance agent(versus driving sixty minutes to his office, parking, and waiting.) Since, under contract law, a scanned copy of my contract is considered valid.

  12. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    LMGTFY

    May 5, 2000 - "Love" virus accidentally targets fax machines

    http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-240143.html

  13. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by MoonBuggy · · Score: 0

    Faxes also have legal statuses that email doesn't, in some jurisdictions, so faxing is still a staple in government departments, the legal profession, and in B2B transactions.

    While true, this is still stupid. Not a major problem in the scheme of things, I know, but when the very conversation we're having is about the fact that a modem can send a stream of bits to a fax machine as easily as to an email account, it's pretty clear that one should have no more bearing than the other.

    I know the legal system shouldn't be jumping on the bandwagon every time new tech comes along, but it's 2011, there's plenty of precedent involving email. Either accept both or deny both, but don't make some arbitrary distinction between the two.

  14. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You see legal importance, and we see antiquated laws built around antiquated communication methods.

    Fax should have died out in the year 2000. Its resilience is... agitating.

  15. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

    Precisely. Faxes also have legal statuses that email doesn't, in some jurisdictions, so faxing is still a staple in government departments, the legal profession, and in B2B transactions.

    It's also still used where visual content approval is required. Monuments, headstones, printing runs, etc don't get done until someone signs and FAXs back the proof page. Likewise many construction operations send proposals and bids, and receive signed, accepted bids by FAX. Many medical operations like FAX because the transmission can not easily be rerouted or duplicated (without other office workers noticing the half ream of photocopies someone just made).

    Yes, you could set up a scanner and hope the people can handle attachments and graphic formats, but for the time being FAX is the most cost effective way to deal with many situations.

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  16. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. by westlake · · Score: 2

    Gotta love the punitive vs retributive approach to justice in the West.

    Some lessons are only learned the hard way.

  17. cadre of highbrow murders/thieves remain uncharged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just shows some of the unbalance? that situation appears to have the potential to change rapidly & dramatically (so we don't 'forget'.. again?) you can just feel the winds of change swirling all around US, & wafting directly onto much of the rest of the world? see you (soon?) at one of the many scheduled million baby play-dates near you.

  18. Between 2003 and 2007 by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    Read the summary before you editorialize Timothy. Yea, alot of people still had and still have modems, there has been a need for faxing documents and back then there weren't alot of pdf to fax services.

  19. Don't put the blame on the victim. by westlake · · Score: 1

    Now I will grant that this guy should be punished, BUT

    There is always a "but" when a geek is sentenced to do hard time.

    1. Re:Don't put the blame on the victim. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      You misspelled both "butt" and "Greek"...

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  20. nostalgia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, this took me right back to a time where there were security warnings about clicking on links which would hang your modem up and dial a premium service up. Forgot all about that sort stuff.

  21. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

        That's legal requirements versus policy.

        There are still a lot of places who's policy states they require fax authorizations.

        Where I work, we have a rather nice fax/scanner/printer. We usually scan and email to ourselves. A huge number of places require faxes to be sent. Many of those places insist on sending fax responses. They aren't allowed to email, nor give results verbally. The excuse is usually that it's "not secure". I can't quite comprehend how telling someone on the phone is less secure than sending a fax, and hope the minutes or hours later the intended recipient is standing by the fax, and the fax won't be left in a box, on a desk, and will be properly disposed of, rather than just leaving it laying around.

     

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  22. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Faxing is the ONE true blessing the government allows, that prevents lines of people going around the office buildings, and keeps me from sitting in waiting rooms far too many times.

  23. Fax by devnullkac · · Score: 2

    I don't have a modem, but I do have a USB-attached multi-function printer/scanner that includes fax capability, which I'm pretty sure a piece of malware could trick into calling any number it wanted (might be difficult to keep it from turning on the annoying speaker as it dials). Which reminds me... I should cancel my plans to get a network-attached version that would be vulnerable to such an attack without having to infect any of the PCs on the network; just breaching the firewall or wireless encryption would be enough.

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    1. Re:Fax by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Or you could just, you know, not leave the MFP plugged into the phone line, like I do on mine.

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  24. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

        Aw.. Next you'll tell me teletype is antiquated. Bah. That's how I post here. I load it up on paper tape, and wait 20 minutes for it to send. EOT

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  25. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by vlueboy · · Score: 1

    Back in those days my mac yawned at fruitless activeX exploits meant for WinIE5, and loled at those .EXE downloads ESPECIALLY if we were dumb enough to doubleclick them; Linux browsers are just as safe, the same as a fax can't load virus code meant for Outlook Express 4 from 10 years ago.

    Looks like PP forgot to read the article they posted: targetting and succeeding (at infecting with a virus) are not the same thing

  26. Sounds like AOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'unwanted dial-up software'

    Sounds a bit like AOL :P

  27. Do that many people still have modems attached? by Tux2000 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Do that many people still have modems attached?

    Yes. While DSL, UMTS and DOCSIS are quite common in urban areas, there are still several areas (villages) where dual-channel ISDN is the fastest way to get into the net (2x 64 kBit/s), and many people in those areas still use analog modems (V.90) simply because ISDN lines have a higher monthly fee and dual channel ISDN doubles the costs of each internet connection.

    Of course, there is also satellite internet access, but it is expensive, overloaded, slow (despite opposite claims of the operators) and has a high latency. Plus, you need a free line of sight to the satellite and the permission to install a(n additional) satellite dish from the owner of the house. LTE is the latest promise for fast internet access in non-urban areas, following WiMAX. WiMAX exists only in prototype areas, it still is not commonly available in Germany. LTE is only planned, no prototype area exists, and despite legal restraints to install LTE first in areas without high speed internet connections, the first prototype areas will be big cities.

    Another reason to use a modem is the ability to send and receive faxes, as others already posted.

    Costs for 0900 calls are very high compared to other numbers, and the 0900 owner can define how much is charged. There are two mutually exclusive limits: Either max. 3.00 EUR per minute, or max. 10.00 EUR per call independantly from the length of the call. (Source: http://www.teltarif.de/i/sonderrufnummern-0900.html) So if you use the second option (charge 10.00 EUR per call) and distribute a dialer that makes one-second calls to your 0900 number, you gain 10.00 EUR per second and call. Gaining 8,000,000 EUR (roughly approximating 1 EUR = 1 $) requires 800,000 calls. If you can make 10 calls before getting caught by the modem owner, you need only 80,000 users. If you can make 100 calls before getting caught, you need just 8,000 users.

    ISDN users are even more attractive than modem users. The V.90 handshake needs about 10 to 20 seconds, and it is noisy due to the modem speaker. Plus, the V.90 modem blocks the phone line. So it is very likely that the dialer is found very fast. The ISDN handshake takes much less time, about a second, it is silent, and ISDN offers two lines, so you can still use your phone while your computer is busy wasting your money with one second calls to a 0900 line. If that goes unnoticed for one hour, and each call lasts four seconds total, you have 900 calls from one user, 9,000 EUR. Trick just 900 users into using your dialler for one hour on an ISDN line and you gain 8,100,000 EUR.

    Tux2000

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    1. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no need for v.90 handshake or noise at all, proper AT commands could be sent to the modem to dial, wait and hangup.

    2. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LTE is only planned, no prototype area exists, and despite legal restraints to install LTE first in areas without high speed internet connections, the first prototype areas will be big cities.

      I'm not sure what country you are referring to. In Sweden, there are already two or three operators offering LTE service in major cities.

    3. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The speaker of analog modems can simply be disabled by ATM0

    4. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The V.90 handshake needs about 10 to 20 seconds, and it is noisy due to the modem speaker."

      Do German modems not support ATM0? Do people who write sneaky dial-up malware really not know how to look at the AT command set?

    5. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by ve3oat · · Score: 1

      It was only last month that I stopped using a Linux box with a modem. It was an old HP-Kayak machine bought surplus some years ago. Now I have moved everything over to a newer machine with eth0 connection. Updates are much faster now!

    6. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      You know, even when I worked for HP, we considered the HP-Kayak machines to be junk...

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    7. Re:Do that many people still have modems attached? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Some of the nicer Kayaks I got my hands on were really, really nice. I only babysat them for about a year though so maybe they didn't have time to fail? I want to say they were XU or something. They had some of the nicest cases I ever met, were a little noisy maybe.

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  28. What about voip, Skype and Magic Jack? by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    Presumably Skype and Magic Jack allow Voip calls from your computer to premium lines if you have signed up for the right kind of outbound service.

    Additionally most people with voip have their voip modems as their frontline firewall on the internet. If anyone manages to either breakinto to those or otherwise sniff their handshaking then presumably one could make loads of calls and bill them to the voip plan (again assuming one has a plan that allows calls to premium numbers.)

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  29. 3G Modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is the new dial-up modem found in laptop and mobile phones

  30. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by yuhong · · Score: 1

    Indeed, I recently helped to install a PCI modem in a newer PC exactly for faxing.

  31. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    A lot of buisnesses founded prior to 2000 have been using the fax for 10-15 years. I worked for one company years ago that still hires temps in the summer to file and send responses to their faxes simply because in the slow season having a verifiable paper trail allows them to stick their vendors with the cost of screw ups, and also generates jobs for several long-term (12+ years) employees. If your choice is a) speed up the process and lose money converting to the new system while learning from your mistakes of integrating the new system or b) letting your old friends of 12+ years go because they aren't needed.... it's easy to ignore the modern solution.

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  32. Another use for a modem by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

    Modem card with "voice modem" capabilities, you can get software which will read the caller id info, and do what you want with the incoming call. Hang up on them, play a special audio, voice mail... the possibilities are many.

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  33. Rings a bell... by jcr · · Score: 1

    I remember hearing about someone who got busted for a similar scheme many years ago. He was a consultant at a brokerage, and he programmed their modems to call his 900 number periodically. He was somewhat careful about it, and was only skimming a couple grand a month, which wouldn't even be noticed in a monthly phone bill that easily ran into seven figures. He got caught when the company blocked all 900 number calls. Apparently, he didn't do a very good job of concealing the ownership of the 900 line.

    -jcr

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  34. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    I'll be damned if I ever upgrade to teletype stop prefer older ways stop

  35. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

        Funny, I do the opposite. When someone brings me a machine weird fault, I yank the modem and then ask "Do you use your modem for anything?" They frequently ask me "what's a modem". I then ask if they hook a phone line up to the computer. When they describe a cat5 cable to me, I tell them they don't need it. I can usually tell by the dust buildup in the phone port, so I know my answer before I start asking silly questions. :)

        I had a box of them laying around for a while. I gave it away with a bunch of antique hardware. :)

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  36. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time i have faxed something on my own behalf in the last 4 years, I have used an email-to-fax service.

    This is so fucking dumb.

  37. Modems for freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modems can be used to access ISP's in other countries when the government closes the internet during riots.

  38. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Either accept both or deny both, but don't make some arbitrary distinction between the two.

    Arbitrary restrictions such as:
    1. Reliable phone company records of sender, receiver and time;
    2. Unlikelihood that the fax will be intercepted and/or modified en route.

    Oh, wait, not that arbitrary after all.

  39. AT codes... by DrYak · · Score: 1

    (might be difficult to keep it from turning on the annoying speaker as it dials).

    Not at all. It's a plain stupid "AT..." command. The default initialisation string sent to the FAX has it turn the speaker on during hand shaking (so you can hear if everything is working ok), and off afterward (no useful information from the transmission noise).
    Just send instead a command for having the speaker off the whole time (ATM0, instead of ATM1)

    And that's for analog modems. This is Germany we're speaking about, where everything is nearly 100% ISDN since ages. So no noises at all. The fax is purely transmitting digital data.

    And as we're speaking about Fax, the fax machine could be a full blown FAX (with attached printer and scanner). Or could be a rather simple small USB ISDN soft-modem with a software suite doing all the work on the PC (and thus even more easy to control for a malware).

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  40. Re: What's a modem? by Slur · · Score: 1

    > Yep!

    - Where's the router?

    > You bet!

    - So which is the switcher?

    > No, that's our shortstop!

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  41. Wow... by Slur · · Score: 1

    This would have been awesome. If he had gotten away with it.

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    1. Re:Wow... by black3d · · Score: 1

      "Porn-diallers" (ie, premium-number dialling software) have been around since before the internet, many malware-based that would dial even if you didn't want them to. The only thing unique about this case is he's one of the few to actually get caught.

      There's nothing special about what he's done (besides being stupid enough to get caught), and I don't see anything awesome about stealing from generally innocent folks - who can't afford broadband connections. "Rob from the .. poor.. and give to myself!". Yeah.. no.

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    2. Re:Wow... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!"

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  42. Good wage by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

    7 years in prison for $8m? $1.14m per year wage is pretty good. I'd guess that a lot of hard-working, honest people would do 7 years inside if it netted their family $8m.

    Also it'll be nice for him when he gets out after 4 years and realises he got a pay rise to $2m per year.

    I don't think these "mid-range" sentences for high-gain crimes are really effective unless the criminals are forced to give the money back.

    1. Re:Good wage by will_die · · Score: 1

      Fortunatly it does not work like that.
      He had to pay a $7.9 million fine, along with $2.2 million in back taxes to the US IRS.
      Don't mess with the IRS.

    2. Re:Good wage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA. The Feds have thought of that. "In addition to the 82-month sentence, he must pay a $7.9 million fine, along with $2.2 million in back taxes to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. "

    3. Re:Good wage by inglorion_on_the_net · · Score: 1

      I don't think these "mid-range" sentences for high-gain crimes are really effective unless the criminals are forced to give the money back.

      I agree. It is a Good Thing, then, that they actually did make him pay ... more than he took, even. FTFA:

      In addition to the 82-month sentence, he must pay a $7.9 million fine, along with $2.2 million in back taxes to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.

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    4. Re:Good wage by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

      Sorry, skimmed the article and failed to see that bit.

    5. Re:Good wage by LordNacho · · Score: 1

      How the heck does he get a tax bill for money he has to pay back?

    6. Re:Good wage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's for stuff like this that a civil recovery law (like POCA in the UK) is essential.

      Not willing to pay? That's an extra few years on top of your sentence. Now cough up.

    7. Re:Good wage by cvtan · · Score: 1

      Are people required to pay taxes on illegally obtained income even after they have to give it back??

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    8. Re:Good wage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interest and penalties. Now shut up and accept it, serf! All hail the Ebony Messiah!!!

    9. Re:Good wage by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      7 years in prison for $8m? $1.14m per year wage is pretty good. I'd guess that a lot of hard-working, honest people would do 7 years inside if it netted their family $8m.

      This assumes that he's going to be allowed to keep the proceeds of the crime. Is that generally the case in the US?

      I'd hope not, and if so, that they'd investigate and deal with any obvious attempts to (e.g.) pass on the money to his family, who I assume would not be allowed to keep it either (and possibly be held liable if they were clearly aware of the illegality of what was going on?)

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    10. Re:Good wage by PIBM · · Score: 1

      Which he was.... from TFA

      " In addition to the 82-month sentence, he must pay a $7.9 million fine, along with $2.2 million in back taxes to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service."

    11. Re:Good wage by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Last I knew paying your court fines was not tax deductible.

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    12. Re:Good wage by idontgno · · Score: 1

      If German law in this respect is like US law,Yes. Quoting: "Illegal activities. Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Form 1040, line 21, or on Schedule C or Schedule C-EZ (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity. "

      Oh, "after they have to give it back?" The convict in question didn't "give it back". The victims haven't gotten anything "back". The criminal is "paying a fine". You pay income tax on income, whether you pocket the money, pay your car payment, or pay a parking ticket. Same basis here. He collected the income without paying the tax. That fact that he also owes the money to someone else (the fine) is irrelevant.

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    13. Re:Good wage by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Heh. I confused a German case mentioned up-thread with this one. Yeah, the IRS rule is emphatically applicable, since New Hampshire is still part of the United States.

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    14. Re:Good wage by Legal.Troll · · Score: 0

      Why don't you read TFA "By May 2009, Pala had begun cooperating with federal authorities and was training U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation agents across the country on how the Trojan downloader scam worked. He was also secretly working on a sting, trying to nail the two men who had introduced him to the scam. But they couldn't be enticed into a meeting, and the feds ultimately pulled the plug on the operation. At his sentencing, Pala was given a break for his cooperation with the government.... Pala pleaded guilty to fraud and tax evasion charges in U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts in April 2010. In addition to the 82-month sentence, he must pay a $7.9 million fine, along with $2.2 million in back taxes to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.

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    15. Re:Good wage by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      In Australia there was a drug dealer who was caught, but he claimed the drugs the police seized as a loss. He ended up having to fight it, but won in the end.

  43. All in all, the crime was worth it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's assume that he stashed aside a few million bucks. Let's say $3 for the sake of argument.

    He'll likely get out of his prison sentence after 24 months for good behavior.

    So here's the question: Would any readers here NOT do 24 months of minimum security prison for $3 million bucks?

    Given the above analysis, I'm going to have to assume several readers are already busy replicating the scam...

  44. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I'd be posting in morse code if it weren't for slashdot's fucking comment filters. Way to ruin the joke /.

  45. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1
    From your article:

    It's a most modern definition of uselessness: An email virus that sends itself to a fax machine. That's what a few confused people around the world saw today, as their fax machines began churning out page after page of the computer code underlying the destructive "I Love You" virus. The damage created by this particular manifestation of the virus--the computer equivalent of a pistol shooting a flag that says "BANG"--was nil. If anything, it proved that Microsoft's Outlook program was capable of annoying people even away from their personal computers.

    I'm not sure how sending a fax of the virus code to literally print out is "infecting" a fax machine. Annoying, maybe, but all they are doing is sending them a harmless fax.

  46. I RTFA...sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Two important points left out of the summary...

    "Pala, a Turkish immigrant to the U.S., ran a small Massachusetts Internet service provider called Sakhmet when he was approached by others -- men he believed to be the brains of the operation -- and enticed into building the back-end infrastructure for dialer software that was then downloaded onto the German computers, his lawyer, Geoffrey Nathan, said in an interview Tuesday. "

    "Pala pleaded guilty to fraud and tax evasion charges in U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts in April 2010. In addition to the 82-month sentence, he must pay a $7.9 million fine, along with $2.2 million in back taxes to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service."

    and a couple other interesting things...

    " Pala was caught after he was flagged by federal authorities after paying cash for his second Lamborghini sports car"

    "[Pala] was also secretly working on a sting, trying to nail the two men who had introduced him to the scam. But they couldn't be enticed into a meeting, and the feds ultimately pulled the plug on the operation.
                At his sentencing, Pala was given a break for his cooperation with the government, but had the sting worked, it would have cut years more off his sentence, Nathan said. "The case reflects the pitfalls and the success of a cooperation agreement," he said."

  47. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Sique · · Score: 1

    As someone who professionally administers phone systems, both restrictions are quite... lets say... arbitrary.

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  48. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Sique · · Score: 2

    Or, to be more specific - if I want to send a fax from an arbitrary number to you, I create a new office code in my phone switch for that number, create a single station with the number I want to sent the fax from, put the target number as diversion on a second station within my normal number range and then call from my first station the second and start sending the fax. The phone switch then will sent the fax as a diversion out to you with the arbitrary number as sending party, and the phone provider will transmit that fax with the faked sender ID.

    The same goes for an altered fax: I catch the SIP data stream on any network switch, extract the RTP data stream, alter the part of the fax I want to alter and resend the fax again - you get two faxes than, one original, and one faked. If I don't want the original fax going out, I do the same on the Border Gateway Controller, and I cut off the called party as soon as the fax negotiation has finished.

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  49. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

    Or perhaps PP is not some snooty snob and actually read the title of the article they posted.
    It clearly says "accidentally targets", which is a pretty accurate description of what happened; the virus targetted fax machines whereas it clearly shouldn't have.

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  50. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

    None of these apply to only fax, and not email.

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  51. The takeaway: Don't pay cash for a Lamborghini by itwbennett · · Score: 2

    The best part of the story really is that might not have been caught except that he was 'flagged by federal authorities after paying cash for his second Lamborghini.' http://www.itworld.com/networking/138664/man-gets-7-years-forcing-modems-call-premium-numbers

  52. Lucky dog by morgauxo · · Score: 1

    7 years? That means he will probably be out within one. I'm assuming he managed to squirrel away some of that money where it wouldn't be found. He's got his retirement set.

  53. Re:You think this guy's bad? by morgauxo · · Score: 0

    What an outrage! The president of the US shouldn't be polite to dictators, he should slap them all on the face with a dueling glove. That way the number of wars we are in at one time can be in at least 2 if not 3 digits! Spread those troops thin like butter on diet toast! That will help matters and make the world a better place!

  54. Can't believe nobody has posted this yet by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    "Hello, this is Homer Simpson aka Happy Dude! The court has ordered me to call every person in town to apologize for my telemarketing scam. I'm sorry. If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, send one dollar to : Sorry Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. You have the power!"

  55. Actually by sycodon · · Score: 1

    Get the money back, THEN shoot him. And any virus writers you can find along the way too.

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  56. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by hjf · · Score: 1

    Yes. Because it's so much more convenient to:

    1. Fire up the scanning program
    2. set up to black and white
    3. scan
    4. look for the file
    5. zip it
    6. attach it
    7. send it

    as opposed to
    1. dial the number
    2. press SEND

    do you realize how much of a douche you sound?

  57. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    Also, the crimes go back to 2003-2007 when a lot more people would have been on dial up.

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  58. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by operagost · · Score: 1

    di dah di dit dah dah dah di dah di dit

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  59. Re:peopel still fax even in 2011 so some modems in by Meski · · Score: 1

    It's not necessarily 2 steps. There could be 'find the fax machine' ; 'wait for the person sending a 50 page tender response in front of you' ... OTOH, I went through the scanning process the other day. Discovered that I'd upgraded to a 64bit OS, and the scanner manufacturer didn't have a 64bit driver (thank you, Canon) - went googling, and found a 3rd party driver that did support that scanner, bought it, then went through your steps 1-7. I'm not looking forward to repeating the process for OSX.

  60. Re:people still fax even in 2011 by Meski · · Score: 1

    Not exactly infect, but a moebius loop of paper ties one up for a while.

    Also, some faxes are PC based. Or have some OS that you could infect.

  61. Re:Phone in Cell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would really be punishment, is placing an unbreakable telephone in his cell and then release his number to the public so they can call him 24 hours a day.
    Just so people can tell him how it feels to get all those unwanted calls. ;)

  62. Using ISDN didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unlike the USA, Germany has a functional and fast (ISDN) phone network. And at the time of the crime most people used ISDN to get into the internet and that is where it got tricky for the victims. You hear a modem dialing (at least you hear it clicking when opening the line) but with ISDN cards you don't hear or see anything. Even worse, you get at least 2 lines so, even when on a call this thing could dial.