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Texas Site Pushes Back Known Settlement Date For North America
Velcroman1 writes "The discovery of ancient stone tools at an archaeological dig in Texas could push back the presence of humans in North America, perhaps by as much as 2,500 years. The find was located 5 feet below materials left by the well-known Clovis culture, which was once thought to have been the first American settlers around 13,000 years ago. It was 'like finding the Holy Grail,' Waters said in a telephone interview. To find what appears to be a large open-air campsite 'is really gratifying. Lucky and gratifying.'"
Too bad the Texas text books state that this is 7000 years before God created the Earth.
People couldn't be here 13,000 years ago if the world is only 6,000 years old? /sarc
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they better not open the Pandorica or the Daleks will really invade this time around.
is that Texas culture has regressed since then.
Does anyone in Texas still believe in science?
I sign on to make a wise-ass comment about creationism and Texas and find two others beat me too it.
Either /. commenter creativity has hit a new low, or Texas's reputation is so overpowering that such jokes are inevitable.
The Clovis kids were probably just playing a practical joke 10,000 years ago, burying pottery five feet under, to confuse the archaeologists.
Or so I have been lead to believe by recent news - why are they practicing such an obviously satanic and corrupting religion like science in a proper Christian state like Texas???
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So the Clovis culture was one day's easy digging away from being the first archaeologists?
Of course it is 2,500 years earlier. Grants to come to archaeologist who discover the same thing that someone else discovered 5 years ago. I'm sure the next site will show evidence of people being around 20,000 years ago.
It's nice to read about a settlement that has nothing to do with a lawsuit.
I use irony whenever I can, but my shirts are still wrinkled...
"Known settlement date"? What the hell does that even mean? Perhaps "date of first known settlement", but come on. Even if the story is filled with grammatical problems, at LEAST check the headlines before you hit submit.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
I expected an article about some Texas-based website pushing back the settlement date for some kind of copyright violation class action lawsuit affecting North American users only (at least the known ones).
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Texas has made another recent addition to textbooks:
"Scientists discover 'ancient stone tools' placed in the ground by the Devil"
In search of a creditable source for this (a bit of internet archaeology), just below the layer of detritus of modern society, I stumbled upon this: http://www.livescience.com/13398-americans-predate-clovis-110324.html
That theory has been long ago discredited. It's amazing that it still decorates US history books - is it because almost no one teaching this subject and the kids learning about it don't care at all?
Anyway, this finding helps debunking the mantra...
This is getting a lot more hype than it should: Several other sites, as well as genetic studies, have pointed to the existence of pre-Clovis human habitation in North America, and it had long been a working hypothesis for a lot of archaeologists who had been studying early American habitation.
The only really interesting question is what these tools most resemble: If they look like they're related to a culture not from Siberia, that would be a much bigger deal, since it would suggest migration from Africa or Europe or Polynesia.
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They found ol' Dinosaur Dan!
"When y'all gonna let me outta here?"
The Texas find is interesting, because it's dealing with settlement of North America, but to me the India find in the same article was much more interesting. Acheulian stone tool designs in India at 1.5 million years BC, saying humans migrated out of Africa at least 100,000 years earlier than we thought! That difference is a lot longer than the time modern Cro-Magnons have been around.
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The tools are stamped "Made in China"
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...the Earth is only 6000 years old.
Bryan/College Station's worst disaster occurred when a small two-seater Cessna 150 plane, piloted by two Texas A&M students, crashed into a cemetery earlier today. Texas A&M volunteers have recovered 300 bodies so far and expect the number to climb as digging continues into the evening. The pilot and copilot survived and are helping in the recovery efforts.
I know it's old, but it never fails to get the goat of my Aggie buddies.
The US government have made it clear that we have no inalienable rights; any we do not defend vigorously will be taken.
Note that this article was on Fox, along with news of a Bigfoot video from North Carolina and a story on an El Chupacabra found in Kentucky. You know that Rupert Murdock, he checks, rechecks, and checks again to make sure his stories are accurate!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I wish they'd post more information on how they dated the tools. It's not that I doubt the science, but the article makes it sounds like they dug 5 feet deeper and found tools, so they must be thousands of years older. I can almost hear Ray Comfort now saying "The Clovis people dug a 5-foot hole and buried their old tools. All these scientists found was an ancient landfill. Now look at this banana..."
Why does the quality of news articles always have to be so low? Off-topic now but: It's an online publication for cryin' out loud! A few extra words won't cost anything and grammar/spell check is just a friggin' button.
For a minute I thought this was about some official Texas educational website changing the dates of historical events. And my first reaction was "o, those idiots, are they at it again?".
The real Americans, the Native ones, have been very friendly towards me. So the Blacks and Asian-Americans.
Unlike some european-americans (NOT EVERYBODY); who called some hispanics wet backs, without looking into a person's talent or moral quality.
Funny: an immigrant telling another immigrant is not good enough for not being blonde?
(despite the pond between US and Europe is waaay bigger.)
Disclosure: My beautiful wife is caucasian blonde/never been illegally in the US
I guess those 'native' Americans will have to find a way to steal THIS find too, so that it can't be DNA tested, and also make sure that no damn WHITE people can look at the site properly, lest we find that America was inhabited by whites long before the 'native' Americans came and murdered them all...
Just like China was a white country, before the Mongol hoardes came and murdered all the white men, and raped all the white women, producing what is now known as the 'Chinese' race. Is it any surprise that China is a totalitarian country, with no regard for the suffering of animals or people? I wonder which side of the family tree made them like that?
There are plenty of other articles on this story on the web; take your pick.
And to make matters worse, it was an AP story! ZOMG!
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Did they find any RV parts?
Parent is funny because Aggies really are that focused.
... or Puma Puncu?
Since Texas is for all practical purposes no longer a civilized state (not the only one), they shouldnt get the credit for this. id rather Mexico have the honors, i suspect they are more respectful of archeology. So lets just say it was found in northern Mexico.