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Artificial Clouds To Cool Qatar World Cup Stadiums

An anonymous reader writes "In anticipation of extreme heat during the 2022 World Cup in Qatar, scientists and engineers at Qatar University have developed a solar-powered gas-filled cloud that will shade spectators and athletes from the intense sun. The $500,000 artificial clouds can be positioned over any of the stadiums in Qatar and can be maneuvered with a remote control from the ground to keep the passing sun off the field."

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  1. Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Congratulations, Qatar, you have reinvented blimps!

    Graf Zeppelin would be so proud.

    1. Re:Blimps by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Didn't the Romans have sunshades over the Coliseum...?

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    2. Re:Blimps by value_added · · Score: 4, Funny

      Didn't the Romans have sunshades over the Coliseum...?

      They did, and it was called a velarium. The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

    3. Re:Blimps by c0lo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Congratulations, Qatar, you have reinvented blimps!

      Graf Zeppelin would be so proud.

      Except that the blimp is "in the cloud" and is using "renewable energy" - making those blimps fashionable.

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    4. Re:Blimps by thedonger · · Score: 2

      The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      They sparked the imaginations of filmmakers to produce highly romanticized depictions of Roman life while glossing over their incredible feats of engineering.

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    5. Re:Blimps by SockPuppet_9_5 · · Score: 1

      Yea, Cloud!

    6. Re:Blimps by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      They sparked the imaginations of filmmakers to produce highly romanticized depictions of Roman life while glossing over their incredible feats of engineering.

      highly romanticized depictions of Roman life

      romanticized Roman

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    7. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't the Romans have sunshades over the Coliseum...?

      They did, and it was called a velarium. The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      omg what an ignorant
      if you knew ALL the things that come from the romans

    8. Re:Blimps by cynyr · · Score: 1

      roads maintained by the central government, and numerous examples of what not to do in government. They also advanced military tech(not a good thing but hey), aqueducts, bath houses, city planing, foundations for modern building engineering (I believe they were the first ones to solve slender columns, or was that egypt?)

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    9. Re:Blimps by pjt33 · · Score: 2
    10. Re:Blimps by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Didn't the Romans have sunshades over the Coliseum...?

      They did, and it was called a velarium. The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      omg what an ignorant
      if you knew ALL the things that come from the romans

      You are the ignorant.

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    11. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Besides public health, sanitation, roads, the aquaduct, medicine, and public order, WHAT HAVE THE ROMANS DONE FOR US?

    12. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?

    13. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's "Count" Graf Zeppelin to you...

    14. Re:Blimps by WidgetGuy · · Score: 1

      They gave us something very concrete (although the Egyptians may have used something very much like it in constructing the pyramids, the Romans were the first to use it to build just about everything). All hail opus caementicium ! It changed architecture forever.

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    15. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are more dirigibles than blimps.

    16. Re:Blimps by HBI · · Score: 1

      It's depressing that, aside from the moderators, no one who replied has seen "Life of Brian".

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    17. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      They sparked the imaginations of filmmakers to produce highly romanticized depictions of Roman life while glossing over their incredible feats of engineering.

      highly romanticized depictions of Roman life

      romanticized Roman

      ROMANticized.

    18. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't the Romans have sunshades over the Coliseum...?

      They did, and it was called a velarium. The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      Apart from the sanitation, the aquaduct, education, irrigation, roads and peace?

    19. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no Messiah here. There's a blood mess alright, but no Messiah!

    20. Re:Blimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    21. Re:Blimps by Pepebuho · · Score: 1

      Spartacus?

    22. Re:Blimps by NoSleepDemon · · Score: 1

      "you lucky bastard!"

    23. Re:Blimps by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      The american highway system definitely helped the common (american) man. Also given the lack of security I imagine this would make a nifty radio controlled aircraft. I wonder how fast it is.

    24. Re:Blimps by DryGrian · · Score: 1
      Don't forget possibly the greatest gift to Western culture the Romans have given us...

      The vomitorium.

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    25. Re:Blimps by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      The real question is what, aside from inventing the velarium, have the Romans ever done for us?

      They sparked the imaginations of filmmakers to produce highly romanticized depictions of Roman life while glossing over their incredible feats of engineering.

      highly romanticized depictions of Roman life

      romanticized Roman

      ROMANticized.

      ROMAN

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    26. Re:Blimps by Lanteran · · Score: 1

      -1 doesn't know how to use quote tags.

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  2. Kitten block by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 0

    I can't RTFA. I just get to this page.

    Thank goodness for this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kitten-block/

    1. Re:Kitten block by jiteo · · Score: 2

      Dismissing the message because of the messenger is akin to racism, in which you dismiss the person because of the race. I don't like the Daily Mail any more than you do, but this particular article had no ZOMG FOREIGNERS content, so I didn't mind. Yeah, it squeezed two sentences of information into 10 paragraphs of text, but everything does that nowadays. Also, did you really need to tell all of Slashdot about your super Firefox extension? Don't want to read the Daily Mail? OK, don't read it in private. Bragging about it makes you look like a wanker, not an intellectual. (Man, who peed in my Cheerios this morning? I don't normally post bile like that...)

    2. Re:Kitten block by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I don't like the Daily Mail any more than you do, but this particular article had no ZOMG FOREIGNERS content, so I didn't mind.

      They can only cry wolf so many times before they well and truly deserve to be ignored.

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    3. Re:Kitten block by jiteo · · Score: 1

      I am Canadian, so maybe I just haven't been exposed enough to the Daily Mail to start properly hating it...

    4. Re:Kitten block by countertrolling · · Score: 1

      I am Canadian...

      Is it terminal?

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    5. Re:Kitten block by houstonbofh · · Score: 0

      Dismissing the message because of the messenger is akin to racism, in which you dismiss the person because of the race. I don't like the Daily Mail any more than you do, but this particular article had no ZOMG FOREIGNERS content, so I didn't mind. Yeah, it squeezed two sentences of information into 10 paragraphs of text, but everything does that nowadays. Also, did you really need to tell all of Slashdot about your super Firefox extension? Don't want to read the Daily Mail? OK, don't read it in private. Bragging about it makes you look like a wanker, not an intellectual. (Man, who peed in my Cheerios this morning? I don't normally post bile like that...)

      So you browse slashdot at -2? Filtering people because they are marked troll is akin to racism...

      Of course "discrimination" used to be a good thing... Discriminating taste... Now everyone is a racist just for disagreeing with someone who has a different kind of tan.

  3. The New Golden Age by NotAGoodNickname · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is nice that the world is so wealthy we can spend billions of dollars of extra money watching grown men kicking balls into nets. We truly have entered the Golden Age.

    1. Re:The New Golden Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, just like medieval europeans were living in the golden age because they could afford to watch cockfights... way to miss the point, dude.

    2. Re:The New Golden Age by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Would you rather have the world's wealthy spending billions of extra money on watching poor men kicking each other in the balls and killing each other.

      That was considered a golden age too.

      at least the majority of today's sports isn't physical slaughter.

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    3. Re:The New Golden Age by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      It is nice that the world is so wealthy we can spend billions of dollars of extra money watching grown men kicking balls into nets. We truly have entered the Golden Age.

      When they spend the money, it often trickles down to others that actually need it quite a bit. Look around a football game next time and count how many menial jobs they have in the stadium. Better that they just save it to keep it out of the hands of the grubby poor.

    4. Re:The New Golden Age by NotAGoodNickname · · Score: 2

      No I'd rather have them spending billions on neither of the two options. Are you saying there are only two options to spend billions of dollars on?

    5. Re:The New Golden Age by NotAGoodNickname · · Score: 2

      Riiiight. Thats just bullshit. The owners get huge taxpayer breaks and often taxpayer funded stadiums to conduct their businesses in. The fact that 1000 people might get a $10/hr job doesn't compensate for the billions wasted on children's games.

    6. Re:The New Golden Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/opinion/21krugman.html

      hmm I wonder if trickle down economics is the riches way to explain why paying lower taxes is good for them, ahem I mean "us".

    7. Re:The New Golden Age by erroneus · · Score: 1

      OMG! That is EXACTLY how I feel about sports fandom!! Gotta bookmark that one.

    8. Re:The New Golden Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Building stadiums for thousands to watch "children's games" has been ingrained into the human psyche for thousands of years. I'm sorry to say that this will not change no matter how much sanctimonious crap spews out of your self righteous pie hole. I'm sure this money would be better spent on the human condition so that we can accelerate the runaway population growth that is going to bury this planet anyway. Or were you thinking more along smaller scales of things like the Holiday Food Drive, which has the unintended consequence of providing only short-term relief for the hungry, but whose main objective is to boost the donor's feeling of moral standing at a very minimal expense and effort to them?

    9. Re:The New Golden Age by peragrin · · Score: 0

      It isn't your choice , it is theirs and humans are a very selfish group by design.

      Why worry about the future, when your not going to be around for it?

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    10. Re:The New Golden Age by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      It isn't your choice , it is theirs and humans are a very selfish group by design.

      Why worry about the future, when your not going to be around for it?

      And this line of thinking got us to where we are today. Companies breed executives to be intentionally short-sighed, not even looking past the next quarter, much less the next decade or generation.

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    11. Re:The New Golden Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the guy posting on Slashdot rather than out fixing the planet. Because obviously their way of wasting time is inferior to your own. Way to go, Mr. Hypocrite.

    12. Re:The New Golden Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to Muammar Muhammad al-Gaddafi.

    13. Re:The New Golden Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why worry about the future, when your not going to be around for it?

      Speak for yourself. I plan on living for as close to forever as possible.

      In the next 20 years all we need to develop is minor life extension medical practices to carry us forward a bit more than usual. In the extra time granted, there will be even more time for further medical progress and life expansion.

      As long as one can stay just a at the curve, you only need to make it to age 120 to be alive in a time where drastic life extension will be at hand, combined with other technologies that are also expanding to basically put oneself ahead of the curve and continue to extend their health and life along with technology until something stops our progress.

      As long as we have no major set backs, current trends already put anyone at age 25 or younger in a position to live hundreds of years, and that only takes into consideration our current rate of progress with no further break-throughs.

      Really, it's only people aged 40 or older who need to hope for a major break through to extend life past the point in time current trends will let them live much longer lives too.

    14. Re:The New Golden Age by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      More like the Diamond Age to me.

      Incidentally I wonder how these blimps would go if they were suspended entirely by hot air. The idea would be to use an envelope which traps heat. Hot air in the envelope generates lift. Should work well in a hot climate.

    15. Re:The New Golden Age by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

      communicating about something that makes sense is nowhere near the same than spending time AND money AND emotions AND words (that mean zero) on something like spectator sports... the truth hurts, doesn't it?

    16. Re:The New Golden Age by careysub · · Score: 1

      More like the Diamond Age to me.

      Incidentally I wonder how these blimps would go if they were suspended entirely by hot air. The idea would be to use an envelope which traps heat. Hot air in the envelope generates lift. Should work well in a hot climate.

      The concept of the "hot air balloon" depends on the air inside the balloon being much hotter than the air outside the balloon, thus making it lighter and generating lift. In a hot climate balloons must be much hotter inside to generate the same lift they would have produced in a cold climate. Very hot air creates various problems - shortening the life of materials, possibly actually raising the amount of heating fuel required. Hot air balloons work best in cold climates.

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  4. What about drones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't some drones/balloons carrying something opaque be easier to handle?

    1. Re:What about drones? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Or a roof?

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  5. well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...what can possibly go wrong with THIS plan?

    1. Re:well... by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      "Oh the humanit... Oh wait... There is actually nobody on the thing. Never mind. Back to you, James."

  6. Hopefully... by LaminatorX · · Score: 2

    ...the Emir will keep up his payments to the Spacing Guild for weather control.

  7. covered stadium but not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just shows that you can solve anything with enough creativity and enough money

    1. Re:covered stadium but not by cynyr · · Score: 1

      I'd argue that this is money... a simple pull over shade, with a gap and a bit of though to making it work like a chimney, would have been far cheaper...

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  8. Athletes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Since when were footballers Athletes and not over paid coked up losers who shepherd a ball of leather in to an outdoor cupboard?

  9. SF writers never saw this coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like so many striking innovations, science fiction writers did not predict this (AFAIK, of course - I can't read everything!)

    It's always been amusing and interesting to see which of their many ideas about possible futures really materialize, and which don't. Some of the great authors of the 1950s and 1960s described scenarios in the distant future (2500 CE, etc.) where gentlemen still wore ties and hats, and computers weighed tons so that they could not be fitted into aircraft or space ships. Heinlein and Arthur C Clarke (among others) foresaw the mobile phone by the 1940s, but never considered the ways in which it might be exploited commercially.

    1. Re:SF writers never saw this coming by spiffydudex · · Score: 1

      It's getting close to what a SF.writer would call a weather machine.

  10. Pictures? by gabebear · · Score: 1
    Looked around for somekind of idea of what this thing would look like or how it would work.
    • Bit and flat with four propellers
    • Filled with Helium and a bunch of solar panels

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9435035.stm
    http://froyonation.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/qatar-invents-artificial-flying-clouds-to-block-sun-over-stadiums/

  11. As usual, SF predicted this... by cvtan · · Score: 1

    Isn't this something out of modern SciFi? Ringworld maybe?

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  12. It's a blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    USA has had blimps flying over their stadiums for years.

    1. Re:It's a blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But not built to the scale where they would shadow the stadium like a roof.

  13. Just use a dome instead? by KBentley57 · · Score: 2

    I know it would be a question of retrofitting a stadium if not already equipped, but wouldn't a dome be much more flexible in its use? What if there is a strong wind, or rain? wouldn't that make the balloons unstable, whereas a dome would still work perfectly? With a dome, you could even have a massive HVAC unit to cool it down somewhat.

    1. Re:Just use a dome instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fry: This snow is beautiful. I'm glad global warming never happened.
      Leela: Actually, it did. But thank God nuclear winter cancelled it out.

      Much better than domes, artificial clouds or lawn eating goats.

    2. Re:Just use a dome instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Domes aren't cool anymore, everything is about "the cloud" nowadays.

    3. Re:Just use a dome instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Domes usually means artificial grass. FIFA competitions can't usually be hosted on artificial grass, with a few exceptions (Canada sub21 competition had a few artificial grass arenas).

  14. Let's hope by then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That Qatar no longer exists.. and is replaced by something more... French.. or better yet hand it over to Belgium, so they don't feel left out, when's the last time they had a colony of their own?

    1. Re:Let's hope by then by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      I just hope that by they we agree on how to pronounce it. Key-Tar? Kay-Tar? Ki-tar? Cutter?

    2. Re:Let's hope by then by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      better yet hand it over to Belgium, so they don't feel left out, when's the last time they had a colony of their own?

      Well, there was the Belgian Congo. Lovely little place. The king of Belgium persuaded Europe that he should have personal control over it, and ran it as his own personal plantation for his own enrichment. If you couldnt fill your quota of rubber, you could bring in severed hands instead. Eventually people stopped trying to harvest rubber and just focused on hands. Best estimates are that roughly 20-50% of the population died during the king's control. Eventually Belgium had to force the king to cede control to the government of Belgium. So, yeah, I think that was one of the last times Belgium had a colony.

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  15. yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, they're building large blimps. That's exciting.

  16. amazing by LeraCupidonova · · Score: 0

    its amazing how far people has come.... its shocking sometimes

    1. Re:amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? How far can you come?

      Go away spammer...

  17. a solution to global warming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one million solar-powered Qatar clouds continuously deployed over landmasses

  18. did they ever hear of the roof? by Punto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    did China start a new trend of coming up with complicated schemes to avoid building roofs on buildings?

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    1. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by amightywind · · Score: 1

      The Chinese do a very good job of covering their stadiums with clouds, of pollution.

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    2. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grass needs sunlight.

    3. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by DaveGod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      $500k is probably a lot cheaper than adding a retractable roof, especially when it may be saleable after, or shared during the event.

      Roofs also impact on the sport. For example in some sports (e.g. rugby) it may be desirable to retain the variable introduced by wind (I daresay most fans do not like a kicking game). Then there's the atmosphere: obviously a roof has a considerable effect on the acoustics. Not to forget grass needs sunlight, tens of thousands of supporters in an enclosed space are going to generate some heat of their own... I think it's fair to say roofs are considered to be a significant compromise in favour of the reliability from reducing weather effects.

      I could well be totally wrong on this but I was under the impression certain sports - or rather certain sporting events - require an open roof, or allow retractable roofs to be closed only under certain conditions and when approved by an official of the governing body.

    4. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      In Jeddah at the airport, where the Haddjis land and depart during their pilgrimage to Meccah, Saudi Arabia has erected large shade structures that seems relatively efficient and effective, all things considered. And they've already proven themselves for a loooong time already.

      http://archnet.org/library/images/thumbnails.jsp?location_id=1685
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Abdulaziz_International_Airport

      They might also play at night for a slightly reduced temperature?

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    5. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, let's fully enclose the giant metal stadiums in the 50C heat with the sun shining on them. Because all good ideas involve putting 50,000 people in an oven...

    6. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by cynyr · · Score: 1

      so whats wrong with a retractable roof? open 98% of the time to let the grass grow(watered by sprinklers of course) then pulled into place for the events...

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    7. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to forget grass needs sunlight

      There's another solution for that in use in various stadiums around the world - they just roll out the lawn on rails. This also allows for multiple complete lawns to be available so that the stadium can be used more frequently and still have high quality lawn available.

    8. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Rather than a retractable roof, why not just a retractable screen? It offers shade, which is what they want, can be removed easily, and would allow for certain weather conditions to still persist when it's in place. Plus, it's a proven technology that's been used since at least the time of the Romans. These fancy-shmancy carbon-structure, helium-filled "clouds" sound like they'll be far less reusable and far more expensive in actual use.

    9. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      Hilariously expensive. (The Toronto Skydome is one example.)

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    10. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you understand the scale of the World Cup finals..

      There are 32 teams playing something like 130 matches, the bulk of which occur inside of 2 weeks. There isn't enough night available. Not to mention having 100k+ football fans in each of a half-dozen cities throughout Qatar awake all night isn't going to make you a lot of fans with the cities' residents. Nor will those fans be able to spend a lot of money on the off days, because they'll all be asleep during normal business hours. Although having them at night would probably please a lot of foreigners, since they'd get to watch it at normal hours.

      Shade structures are static. You build them, and they're okay for the venue ... but nowhere else. These you can move anywhere. So, while one of the venues may be used a handful of times a month, you could move one of these shadeships every day to somewhere that needed it.

    11. Re:did they ever hear of the roof? by Inda · · Score: 1

      Rooves actually increase the atmosphere. No sounds escape.

      Wind was not at issue at the Millenium Stadium in Cardiff, Wales. They love their Rrrrrrrrrugby in the valley, isn't it?

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  19. tag: cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  20. obligatory by rust627 · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our solar powered robotic cloud overlords ..........

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  21. Cool cloud computing by witherstaff · · Score: 1

    Quite the cloud computing infrastructure

    1. Re:Cool cloud computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been wondering what the fuck that buzzword meant, now it makes sense.

  22. Sounds awesome by Veggiesama · · Score: 1

    What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Sounds awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wind - That's what.

  23. Everything's "cloud" these days... by Neil_Brown · · Score: 1

    From mainframe to client-server to "cloud". From hat to roof to cloud too, it seems.

  24. Cloud Computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would the Cloud be controlled from a cloud computer?

  25. it fails and crashs like part of what black sunday by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    it fails and crashes like part of what happen it black Sunday.

    any ways nice way to copy mr burns sun blocker idea.

  26. Easier solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An easier solution would be not to hold the famous sporting event in such an unsuitable country in the first place, although that would mean less bribe money for FIFA delegates.

    1. Re:Easier solution by captain_sweatpants · · Score: 0

      +1 insightful

  27. Cost and environmental concerns? by rs1n · · Score: 1

    What is the effect of such a cloud should something go wrong? I cannot help but wonder if perhaps it would be safer and more cost effective if they were to just put a roof over the stadium (could they not do it for half a million dollars)?

    1. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by thewils · · Score: 2

      Or they could simply play at night. When it is cooler.

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    2. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't actually get much cooler at night. Daytime can be 50 degrees and early morning before sun up it may have gone down to 40 degrees.

      BTW, I live in the region.

    3. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by thewils · · Score: 1

      I know it's not that much cooler...but there would be no need for a half-million dollar sun shade. Although I don't live there I did spend some time in Baghdad back in the 80s so I do know how hot the place can get.

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    4. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      That's nuts. I have great respect for the toughness of people living in that region ... I would die. :P Frankly I can barely stand it when it 'only' falls down to 20 degrees here after a 40 degree day: very difficult to sleep. Though I'm guessing everyone just hangs out in AC there (whereas I don't have AC, unfortunately).

    5. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It costs millions of dollars to put a roof on a stadium. And then you can't grow grass and you can't use the facility without running a massive HVAC system. So you could make the roof retractable, but then you've got 10s of millions of dollars invested. An adjustable shade that they're proposing for $500k is like 1% of the cost of a roof!

      Your suggestion is like asking why somebody would ride a bicycle when they could just drive a car!

      dom

    6. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They chose this country, because the games would go live into Europe, if they played at night, the times wouldnt allign with the rich euro fags

    7. Re:Cost and environmental concerns? by muuh-gnu · · Score: 1

      Or to a crazy theocracy, which Quatar is, where homosexual fans are at risk of being jailed. FIFAs president, Joseph Blatter, basically told gays to suck it up, and if they really really _must_ fly to Quatar to see the games, like everybody else, they should during this time pretend to be heterosexual to avoid persecution.

  28. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a waste of money.

  29. Cloud computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iCloud or Ms Cloud OS ?

  30. Joe Btfsplk by PPH · · Score: 1

    .... is going to sue for an IP violation.

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    1. Re:Joe Btfsplk by JaneTheIgnorantSlut · · Score: 1

      Shade should be OK. Joe's patent covers clouds with rain and lightning.

  31. Football is a bad example to Third World kids by mangu · · Score: 1

    When they spend the money, it often trickles down to others that actually need it quite a bit.

    On the contrary, football creates a trickle up economy. Where do the million$ spent in all those contracts come from?

    But that's not the worse part of it. Most of the best players today come from poor countries in Africa or Latin America. When kids see those stars on TV and hear about the millions they make it looks like a great career choice.

    After wasting their childhood playing hooky in the backyard soccer field, they learn that only a player in a million gets millionaire contracts, and the others are left semi-illiterate with no marketable skills.

    Too bad Discovery and NatGeo aren't available in free-to-air TV, while football games are. The kids who would profit most from those channels don't have cable at home.

  32. Maybe somewhere else? by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    I wonder what kind of perks/bribes FIFA got to place the Cup in a dessert. How about Death Valley next time?

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  33. Advertising by khr · · Score: 1

    the 'clouds' are made from a lightweight carbon structure carrying a giant envelope of material containing helium gas

    Looking into my crystal ball I can see this. I can also see an opportunity for them to use rows of lights on it for advertising... Wait, wait, I see, automotive, yes, tire companies doing this... (or there it'd probably be tyre companies...)

  34. Reminds me of something... by Nrrqshrr · · Score: 1

    Artificial clouds, and next, the machines take over the plant... I see a pattern.

  35. in related news by purpleraison · · Score: 1

    ..in related news: giant remote control, artificial gas-filled cloud explodes - destroys stadium in Qatar...

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  36. 500,000? ell then by gearloos · · Score: 1

    $500,000 ? Well then in 2022 they should be about $1.99 and available from the vendors along with the game program on the way in.

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  37. Free Download by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.soft.hubb.co

  38. Since the dawn of time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use this instead:

    http://s1.sidereel.com/episodes/17521/featured/55579.jpg

  39. FIFA rules don't allow it by fantomas · · Score: 0

    FIFA (the organisation that decides the rules for football's world cup) doesn't let world cup final games to be played in covered stadia. Might be something to do with not allowing games to be played on artificial surfaces (so you need sunlight etc), can't remember.

    1. Re:FIFA rules don't allow it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      FIFA has no rules against playing World Cup matches in covered stadia. They just insist it be played on grass. In 1994 World Cup matches were played indoors inside the Pontiac Silverdome. They installed a natural grass surface for the duration of the 1994 World Cup - grew it outside on pallets and moved it inside for the games. The 2002 World Cup in Japan and Korea and 2006 World Cup in Germany had games played in covered stadia, where the natural turf is mobile and is wheeled outside to grow in the sun and wheeled inside to play soccer indoors. Similar in concept to the new NFL stadium in Arizona. As long as it is played on natural grass FIFA does not mind. Frankly I don't know why Qatar just doesn't build covered stadia and grow the grass outside and move it inside during the tournament; it is a much simpler solution, already proven and unlikely to fail, and would allow everyone to enjoy air conditioning during the heat of the Qatar summer.

    2. Re:FIFA rules don't allow it by mortonda · · Score: 1

      If there's rain, you don't exactly need an artificial cloud...

    3. Re:FIFA rules don't allow it by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

      Somehow having a big solar powered flying bag seems less insane as growing grass palleting in a shitload of grass all the time. What does it cost for these places to bring live grass into a dome?

  40. Fill them with hydrogen! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's cheaper and what could possibly go wrong?

    The humanity!

  41. as the folks outside the stadium turn to bacon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just kidding. tehy might be getting tear gassed though, shot at, detained etc... it (fake cloud) would definitely be an improvement on the fake weather systems being foistered on US now. it was mentioned last weak in ten or 12 posts here on slashdot, but did not rate a stuff that matters storIE at that time?

    the creators have the 'weather problem' well included in the planet/population rescue initiative/mandate.

    as for the fake everything (math, science history religion etc..) death based systems we're using? it's not working for any but a handful of the whole worlds's population, while killing the rest of us. continue to pretend if you must feel safe without being so.

  42. Rain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, how far away are they from making the cloud rain?

  43. What's in a name? by macraig · · Score: 1

    You say tomatoe, I say tomato... you say cloud, I say dirigible. It's a bag full o' floaty gas with some props attached; I think the dictionary already has a good enough word for that, but you go ahead and spin "cloud" for all it's worth.

    1. Re:What's in a name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say tomatoe, I say tomato...

      I read those two words as pronounced the same.........

      If you want the alternative pronouncation, you should have written
      toe-ma-toe, toe-may-toe, toe-may-ta, ta-may-toe, ta-may-ta

  44. Winter by hashp · · Score: 1

    Why don't they just play in winter? We have such nice winter weather in this region!

    1. Re:Winter by Shimbo · · Score: 1

      Why don't they just play in winter? We have such nice winter weather in this region!

      Because they would take players away from their (mostly European) clubs, during the football season there. However, this might happen.

  45. The player shoots, but is intercepted by a rocket by WonderingAround · · Score: 1

    The stadium's not going to exist in 2022, that whole part of the world's blowing itself of the face of the earth right now. Qatar is right in the Persian gulf, my family's in gold trading which is big in that area and it's only gotten worse and worse, Gaddafi is crazy but he's not rolling over like Saddam. He's sitting on the biggest oil reserve in Africa and he knows it, I'd be interested to know where he's still getting weapon's and money from since he's been cut off from a lot of his funds and the UN refuses to even supply the rebels fighting Gaddafi. Yemen isn't far and and their president who's been in power for 17 years, Ali Abdullah Saleh, has repeatedly backed Iran and is letting rebels and freedom fighters run wild, he's also done nothing to stem the flow of arm's trades through and around the area and is facing an uprising of his own. Iraq has never been the same since the US starting in but the US has spread themselves thin with another sustained war in Afghanistan against a religiously driven foreign enemy using their homeland advantage. Obama's administration promised an end to things in Iraq but is now involved in 3 wars, spreading things a little thin much? Abdurahman Mohammed Farole, President of Puntland, an autonomous state inside of Somalia is right in the horn of Africa is worried about the uprising in Yemen affecting the Somalian people as they have already seen 100 refugees come from there in the last week. Dubai has used this technology in the summer months to create fake rainstorms in summer of 2010, but as a bankrupt international hub for big business could it become a ghost town as the more no fly zones are implemented and a recent ban on blackberrys, perhaps smartphones in general. F1 has looked at creating fake rain for when they race in Abu Dhabi, UAE, being the trend in the area this could be implemented fairly easily but with the area affected by No fly zones already. May 1st marks 8 years since George Bush's invasion, taking that as a vague reference point 2022 is 11 years ahead, will this kind of extravagant sporting event even be possible or even heard of in this part of the world by then?

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  46. Inflation is a GOOD thing.. by greywire · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who's first thought was: could you actually make some kind of solar power generating device using a huge inflatable structure, maybe taking advantage of internal convection or something? That way you are creating shade at the same time you are generating power..

    I think inflatable technology is the future..

    * Space habitats (http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/)
    * Cars (http://www.myxpcar.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=14)
    * Telecommunications (http://www.space.com/8973-1st-communication-satellite-giant-space-balloon-50-years.html)

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  47. US should have hosted 2022 World Cup by neophytepwner · · Score: 1

    Another reason why Qatar should not have been selected for the 2022 World Cup host, the US already has the proper accommodations and the weather is much more temperate.

    1. Re:US should have hosted 2022 World Cup by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      The US is already one of the most tourist-hostile countries on the planet. Qatar was probably chosen because it had a higher chance of still having open borders 10 years from now.

    2. Re:US should have hosted 2022 World Cup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US is already one of the most tourist-hostile countries on the planet. Qatar was probably chosen because it had a higher chance of still having open borders 10 years from now.

      Tell that to us Israelis.

    3. Re:US should have hosted 2022 World Cup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Qatar was chosen as they have lots of money. It was pretty apparent they won the bid through suspect means.

    4. Re:US should have hosted 2022 World Cup by slim · · Score: 1

      One function of events like the World Cup and the Olympics is that it fosters development.

      I'm not saying that's necessarily a good thing, nor that Qatar is a great choice -- but it does mean that "already has the infrastructure" isn't that big a deal.

  48. And Rainbow 6 are on call... by smallfries · · Score: 1

    ...in case they decide to keep the crowds cool with a little rain.

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  49. Better Solution by AnonymmousCoward · · Score: 1

    Just don't have the World Cup in Qatar.

  50. so mr burns is in qatar? by old+and+new+again · · Score: 1

    hiding the sun?

  51. Wrong "invention" by snookiex · · Score: 1

    They should invent something to discover who was bribed to vote for Qatar in first place.

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  52. Re:The player shoots, but is intercepted by a rock by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 1

    I do not know if you need to start learning geography or to stop trolling... probably both.

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  53. Re:The player shoots, but is intercepted by a rock by WonderingAround · · Score: 1

    Start learning geography? I'm a little fuzzy but i bet this event is moved by 2022.

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  54. Artificial Clouds To Cool Qatar World Cup Stadiums by durgama · · Score: 1

    Anyone who believes this is likely to also expect Qatar to win the Cup. Michael http://plumbersstlouis.us/

  55. Solar Balloon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At that size, and in guaranteed sun, doesn't a solar balloon sound more attractive than one filled with an enormous amount of expensive helium?

  56. Hmm by ZDRuX · · Score: 1

    The Chinese are seeding the skies with rain, and in Qatar, we create and maneuver artificial clouds.. there's no weather modification technologies, nothing to see here - everyone move along.

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  57. Sponsorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me guess, there's provisions for advertising.

  58. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  59. The Simpsons already did this! by antdude · · Score: 1
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  60. first,I see ,it is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think what the news means is that it is a flexiable roof that costs 500k. it is worthy building a roof like that. What's more , Qatar is a so rich country that the citizens can afford it. At the same time, I have never seen a roof can be moved which sound a good way to avoid to be hurt by the hot sun.

  61. Passing Sun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "can be maneuvered with a remote control from the ground to keep the passing sun off the field."

    Passing sun?
    Galileo would be so proud!

  62. Artificial clouds?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow! I want two of these for my next summer camping trip!