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ALS Sufferer Used Legs To Contribute Last Patch

krkhan writes "This is a little old, but seeing as it didn't make it onto Slashdot at the time, I think it deserves a headline now. Adrian Hands was suffering from ALS and had lost motor skills when he used his legs to type in Morse code and fix a 9-year-old bug in Gnome. The patch was submitted three days before he passed away."

222 comments

  1. Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know what's important to someone when they continue to do it from their deathbed.

    1. Re:Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shame, that feature was removed from the next version.

    2. Re:Dedication by shentino · · Score: 1, Informative

      Unfortunately it was in a version of gnome that is now EOL.

    3. Re:Dedication by Dr.Syshalt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely ANY code you produce will be EOL'ed at some point.
      Just as your children will (surprise) die one day.
      Does it make the life worthless?

    4. Re:Dedication by bunratty · · Score: 1

      Not if they reproduce, etc. The code being EOL'ed at some point is one thing, but just months after it was accepted is quite another! It's similar to an infant's death.

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    5. Re:Dedication by socsoc · · Score: 1

      Yep, it does.

    6. Re:Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if they reproduce, etc. The code being EOL'ed at some point is one thing, but just months after it was accepted is quite another! It's similar to an infant's death.

      if you think that's anything like an infant's death be glad that you are such a fucking nerd you have no idea what it is to lose a baby. the heartache and loss is more than you would possibly know how to handle. a piece of code is nothing. it can be replaced.

      most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. if you were trying to insult those who suffered through the real thing you did well.

    7. Re:Dedication by bunratty · · Score: 0

      I wasn't the one who came up with the original comparison between code being EOL'd and someone dying. I was working within the analogy. Idiot!!!

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    8. Re:Dedication by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      That was just the initial bug entry, the patch will probably find it's way into the current version. Otherwise it would probably not been accepted.

    9. Re:Dedication by ebassi · · Score: 2

      the code contributed is still present in the current version of EoG, major version bump notwithstanding.

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    10. Re:Dedication by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 0

      Stop telling other people how to feel. I, for example, feel very little for infants. And I'm more bothered when I've forgotten to back up some piece of code I was working on for a month than the dozens of infants who die needlessly every minute.

      "Oh, but its not your infant!" I hear you cry. Correct. I would never have a child. I would never want a child. I would decide to give up an infant/foetus/whatever in the same moment that, for whatever reason, I became somehow responsible for one.

      If you ignore infant death, the so called remarkable progress of technology/capitalism/welfare (delete as inappropriate) has actually improved life expectancy not nearly as much as touted over the past couple of millennia. If we began, as a society, to put less emotionally charged value on the the sweet, innocent infant, and developed more love for man in general, perhaps we'd become far more productive, progressive, kind, etc.

    11. Re:Dedication by Americano · · Score: 2

      If you ignore infant death, the so called remarkable progress [...]

      You DO realize that infants are, technically, human beings, right?

      Seems to me that "ignoring infant death" or "putting less [...] value" on them would sort of be at odds with the goal of developing "more love for man in general," then, wouldn't it?

      Reducing infant mortality is often low-hanging fruit - proper nutrition, proper immunizations, proper sanitation, etc make for dramatic reductions in mortality rates. Curing cancer? Curing heart disease? Curing strokes? Pretty fucking complex, unless you've got a miracle cure in your back pocket that you haven't told us about.

    12. Re:Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, it only shows that people need things to keep them busy and occupy their minds while feeling as though they are contributing something to someone.

    13. Re:Dedication by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You DO realize that infants are, technically, human beings, right?

      Only by arbitrary line-drawing is a Homo sapiens 10 months after conception more "human being" than the same 8 months after conception. And each will die without the support of a responsible older human. So, while you may respond with a religious argument that life is supremely important at conception and then gradually becomes less so as innocence is lost, recognise that there are different ways of identifying the needs of man.

      Seems to me that "ignoring infant death" or "putting less [...] value" on them would sort of be at odds with the goal of developing "more love for man in general," then, wouldn't it?

      The context "[...]" you conveniently initially read "emotionally charged". This means we don't get overtaken by think-of-the-sweet-baby mentality, ploughing inordinate effort into the welfare of the infant as if it is more deserving than existing humans.

      Reducing infant mortality is often low-hanging fruit - proper nutrition, proper immunizations, proper sanitation, etc make for dramatic reductions in mortality rates.

      Indeed. These policies aren't emotionally charged pandering to infant needs - they're rational constituents of a developed society, helping everyone and pretty much mastered in developed countries. (Though we're reversing the trend of good nutrition thanks to once again pandering to emotionally charged notions of freedom for the child - which comes down to freedom of the businessman to exploit the child and feed him crap.)

      Curing cancer? Curing heart disease? Curing strokes? Pretty fucking complex, unless you've got a miracle cure in your back pocket that you haven't told us about.

      Well, no - or straw man, rather. Preventing many cancers or detecting+treating them in early stages is technically fairly easy but requires channeling of resources. Similarly, the risk factors for early heart disease are well-known and, again, education and promoting a fit society will go a long way. To a more limited extent, same for strokes.

      But we don't do this because, again, bullshit about "freedom" and "personal responsibility" prevails, weasel words in this context for the right for others to exploit your weaknesses in the short term at the expense of the welfare of man in the long term. It's not society's job to help you keep healthy, is it? Yes. Yes it is. Not from conception to the end of childhood (with an emphasis on infancy), but from conception to the grave.

    14. Re:Dedication by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      If someone is smart they'll keep gnome 2 going just as there is someone keeping KDE 3 alive. While I never used Gnome I never understood this rush to add more bloat and bling bling. I mean if it ain't broke? Linux is quickly losing its title of the lightweight OS with all the bling bling being added, so it is nice to see there are those out there that don't want to start over from scratch and would prefer the stability/features of the older version.

      Personally I wish them luck, because having choices is nice. I still have many customers on Seamonkey which prefer it to the direction FF is going, and I'm sure there are plenty of Gnome users (at least from reading all the IT SUCKS! posts on OSNews about Gnome Shell) that would prefer to stay with Gnome 2. That is one thing I'll give F/OSS credit for, if enough people can't stand what the developers are doing you CAN change it by forking. Damned shame we Windows guys can't do that or I bet Win2K would still be supported! Best damned SMB OS I'd ever seen.

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    15. Re:Dedication by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      You DO realize that infants are, technically, human beings, right?

      Only by the loosest of definitions. They don't really become human until the age of 32.

    16. Re:Dedication by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Nevertheless, the story is gobsmackingly awesome. I doubt if we would ever hear of such dedication (of either father or son) from the stables of Apple or Microsoft.

    17. Re:Dedication by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      And I'm more bothered when I've forgotten to back up some piece of code I was working on for a month than the dozens of infants who die needlessly every minute.

      Sometimes you don't need to be a doctor to diagnose someone's condition. You're a fucking psychopath.

      If no one in the world were prepared to accept responsibility for new life, the human race would be dead in less than a hundred years, genius.

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    18. Re:Dedication by Jurily · · Score: 1

      No, it shows how people can be productive programmers with only one limb functioning. Meanwhile, we're reading Slashdot...

    19. Re:Dedication by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 1

      Sometimes you don't need to be a doctor to diagnose someone's condition. You're a fucking psychopath.

      Only if the majority of cultures throughout history have been comprised mainly of psychopaths. Acceptance of a degree of infant mortality and understanding the value of elders have been the norm in most societies.

      Today, for whatever reason, we draw a great thick line at birth or conception (depending on your religion) and then another great thick line around the teenage years, with people between those two lines being revered. Anything outside is regarded as either mate, competition, tool for exploitation, or garbage.

      If no one in the world were prepared to accept responsibility for new life, the human race would be dead in less than a hundred years, genius.

      You may need to re-read my post. I stated that society has a responsibility for the health of every life at all ages. My concern is that we are currently heavily skewed toward assisting the infant.

      I recall a few of your posts, tehcyder. You're just not very bright. I feel I have to say this because people such as yourself can still be productive if they just take the extra time to listen and learn. Maybe someone just needs to tell you that.

    20. Re:Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, well, your kids aren't that special either, and we've got a planet full of people crapping them out like dogs merely because some hormones told them to. Go tell it to someone who gives a flying fuck.

    21. Re:Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would never have a child. I would never want a child.

      Good thing too, considering how ugly you are. Just sayin'

    22. Re:Dedication by hairyfeet · · Score: 0

      Sadly Jizzbug I don't know if they are "geniuses" so much as giant assholes. I mean read this little bit from old Torvalds himself where he admits there is NO plans for the kernel, instead he does whatever he feels like and lets it "grow like a virus".

      Yeah Linus that would be an STD, and Mickey Mouse shit like that would leave you FIRED with a capital F anywhere else. is it any wonder the damned drivers are constantly breaking? Can you imagine telling your boss "Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans! We gonna let it grow like teh clap LOL!".

      You should check out Linux TMs where former Linux users like myself created a site to document all the total bullshit that serves for answers in the "community" such as "WorksForMe (TM)" and "ItsEasyToChangeIt(TM)" (yeah like we are all software developers with infinite time to learn somebody else's code habits).

      As for KDE and Gnome? I agree they seem to be on a race to see which one can beat Vista in the bloat race, which is kinda funny since Vista got a giant DO NOT WANT attached to it and MSFT lowered the reqs for 7. I know that when Gnome Shell reached beta so he could try it Glenn, my old Linux admin buddy, finally gave up on Linux for his desktop and bought a Macbook. He said while he'll keep using it for servers the desktop is just too much of a fractured mess and that the Mac "just works". So if their goal is to get more Linux guys using Apple? Congrats, its working like a charm fellas.

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    23. Re:Dedication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the best troll I have ever read.

  2. foot paddles? by v1 · · Score: 1

    that picture of him in his chair working on the computer, I was hoping to see how he was managing to use his feet, but the picture didn't extend to his feet. any more descriptive pictures of the setup?

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    1. Re:foot paddles? by rfuilrez · · Score: 2

      Its actually a paddle to the right of his right knee. You can see it attached to a piece of PVC tubing under his desk

    2. Re:foot paddles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thats a catheter bag.

    3. Re:foot paddles? by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Thats a catheter bag.

      Morse catheter bag?

    4. Re:foot paddles? by moonbender · · Score: 3, Funny

      It only writes dot dash dash dot.

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    5. Re:foot paddles? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2

      Indeed. They used such a setup to write windows ME.

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    6. Re:foot paddles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our son Ian set up a square PVC-pipe frame and two buttons were attached to the left and right that Adrian could hit by moving his knee left and right. We later attached the frame with the bottom side open, to the underside of the wall-mounted desk. Left for dot, right for dash. Control characters had been defined, special code to get into control. He even shifted from a head-mouse (camera tracking a reflective dot on his head) to using the Darci USB Morse Code unit for mouse movements.

  3. I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On one hand, I find it awesome that even in that state he managed to do something that productive and leave one (more) lasting trace of himself. On the other hand... I would hope that everyone would find something even more important to do during their last weeks than fix gnome bugs.

    1. Re:I don't know what to think by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I would hope that everyone would find something even more important to do during their last weeks than fix gnome bugs."

      So you have a kind of objective standard about what's important and what it isn't that you want to share with us?

    2. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      There is no "objective standard," only what most of us can agree on. Most of us can agree that everyone should find something even more important to do during their last weeks than fix gnome bugs.

    3. Re:I don't know what to think by shentino · · Score: 1

      Considering the version number though it gives a whole new meaning to the term EOL.

    4. Re:I don't know what to think by clang_jangle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think anyone can be qualified to judge that sort of thing for another person. Quality of life has everything to do with state of mind, and we can only know our own state of mind.

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    5. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gave you the authority to speak for "most of us"? Actually, most of us think you're full of crap.

    6. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gave you the authority to speak for "most of us"? You ARE full of crap.

    7. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see the irony in the above post was far beyond your comprehension. Not very surprising.

      Even if I'm full of crap, that doesn't change the fact that most of us, in a thorough and scientific poll, have decided your crap level is beyond acceptable limits.

    8. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more important to do during their last weeks than fix gnome bugs.

      You use KDE, don't you? :P

    9. Re:I don't know what to think by Asic+Eng · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Being able to contribute something - anything no matter what it is - can be a great comfort for someone who needs to rely on other people's help.

    10. Re:I don't know what to think by Xaositecte · · Score: 1

      You keep making the same joke, and it's just not funny.

    11. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something tells me that (s)he is fully aware of the nature of the post. And maybe you shouldn't be so presumptuous.. In other words: LAUGH Goddammit!

    12. Re:I don't know what to think by ciaran.mchale · · Score: 1

      I would hope that everyone would find something even more important to do during their last weeks than fix gnome bugs.

      The article written by Adrian Hands' son states, "Adrian Hands loved free software / open source." This means Mr Hands spent the last few weeks of his life working on something he loved, and which happened to be of benefit to others. Off hand, I can't think of a better, more important way for a person to spend the last few weeks of their life. Sure, you might say that he could have spent some time talking to loved ones. But who says he didn't do that too?

    13. Re:I don't know what to think by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

      true. if I knew I had a few weeks to live, I would buy a one-way ticket to Amsterdam for some serious fucking , sucking, smoking and snorting.

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    14. Re:I don't know what to think by larry+bagina · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, Mr Hands died doing something he loved.

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      These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

    15. Re:I don't know what to think by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      "we can only know our own state of mind.", if your lucky..... and it can lead to knowing others give or take.

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    16. Re:I don't know what to think by unity100 · · Score: 1

      what he sees as important, totally depends on his views and aims in life. his motive may be much more superior than anything you may dream of here, or much more simpler than what you can guess at. in either case, its his views and aims in life.

    17. Re:I don't know what to think by rockfistus · · Score: 0

      Whoa!

    18. Re:I don't know what to think by pitterpatter · · Score: 1

      You might be amazed at how being paralyzed takes the fun out of fucking. When you're really "fighting for air," when she tells you to come you're not already there (sorry, Brian) And a lot of the allure of smoking and snorting has to do with chemical interference with motor control. Guess what?

    19. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly it was quite important to him, and I think it's what counts.

      Anyway, it's better than tweeting "brb dying" with your legs.

    20. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is no "objective standard," only what most of us can agree on. Most of us can agree that everyone should find something even more important to do during their last weeks than fix gnome bugs.

      I'm a friend of Adrian's. It wasn't known that those were his last days or weeks. While ALS is indeed a degenerative disease, and he had indeed been declining, he was expected to be living quite a while longer.

      Regardless of whether you are right or wrong with regard to how one "should" spend their end days, neither he nor we knew it was those days for him. And, fwiw, he *was* spending them in ways that were most important and meaningful to him.

      Jack Warman
      Durham, NC

    21. Re:I don't know what to think by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you are in such a bad state, that the problem with fucking is that you don't know if you are cumming or going! (With apologies to George Carlin)

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    22. Re:I don't know what to think by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      He could still see and smell it.

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      These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

    23. Re:I don't know what to think by Journe · · Score: 1

      >something more important to do during their last weeks

      Well, I would imagine that most, if not all, of the people you might ask would argue that the mentioned most important thing to do in your last weeks is to enjoy that time. I would also imagine that one does not go to the trouble of coding in Morse with their legs and feet without said coding being something they enjoy.

      Therefore, I would argue that he *did* do something important - something he enjoyed. Isn't spending the last of your time on this earth doing what you enjoy all that matters?

    24. Re:I don't know what to think by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2

      In this case, the fact the son is obviously so immensely proud of his father is reason enough for the man to spend his last days thus. To decry these efforts is simply churlish.

    25. Re:I don't know what to think by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Regardless of whether you are right or wrong with regard to how one "should" spend their end days...

      There IS no right or wrong here, since no-one else has any right to make such a judgement for anyone else. Except me, that is ;-) I find this effort awe-inspiring and moving.

    26. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, he also spent LOTS of time with his wife and daughter, e-mailed his parents and his son regularly, made fun of his nephew on facebook...
      This wasn't his whole life. It was just an important part of it.

      I'm his daughter.

    27. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not everybody gets to change the world.

      The fact that this guy made news is a good chance at being better than you will do on your death bed.

      By your measure. There is a point when people need to give up and die rather than try contribute to something they clearly think about in there last weeks.

      When you have the rule book for death please educate us all. What would happen if we did something less important :(

    28. Re:I don't know what to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I knew Adrian. Due to the non-steady progression of ALS, he did not know that this day he submitted this patch was 3 days before his death. He may have been attracted to fixing this defect because it was one of the oldest still-open defects.

      Adrian really believed in open source. He wasn't sitting alone somewhere - he was with family. He had a lot of different interests, and I really liked him. He was a really nice guy, and this awful disease stole him much too soon from this life.

      I haven't bothered to set up a userid here. I am not anonymous.
      Esther Lumsdon

  4. The human spirit by rjh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All of us like to think that the latest ten-core Xeon or whatever is the neatest thing since sliced bread, but stories like this remind us of what we often forget: the human spirit is the greatest hack of all time.

    The family is in grief right now, and my sympathies are with them: but I hope they also understand the beyond-epic level of respect we have for Adrian Hands, and how he demonstrated right until the very end what the hacker ethos is all about. May we all live up to that standard.

    1. Re:The human spirit by EdwinFreed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's quite remarkable what people in this condition can accomplish.

      Some years back I used to carpool with my father, a doctor. This meant each day I would go to the hospital after work and wait for him to finish making his rounds. But sometimes he would take me on his rounds if there was something he wanted me to see or someone he wanted me to meet.

      One of the people I met this way was a man suffering from ALS. The only things he could move were his eyes and one toe. A sensor was fitted to that toe and hooked up to a microcomputer (a SWITZ system, I think - this was in the early 80s). Despite the crudeness of this setup, he was able to write scholarly papers and even a textbook in his field (geology).

      Whenever I'm personally inconvenienced by some health issue or other, I often recall that meeting. And then I stop complaining abount my own lot in life.

    2. Re:The human spirit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen!

      I'm assuming Adrian was a ham radio op, based on his use of the morse code.

      His spirit is heartwarming. Thanks for the story.

      73, Adrian!

          Joe

    3. Re:The human spirit by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      >>Whenever I'm personally inconvenienced by some health issue or other, I often recall that meeting. And then I stop complaining abount my own lot in life.

      My great-grandfather used to suffer from terrible gout. According to my grandmother, whenever he was feeling sorry for himself, he'd go out to the sidewalk and stand there, edge digging right on the painful joint, until he saw someone more unfortunate than himself walk by.

      Of course, that was around 1900, where people missing arms and legs were a bit more common, but damn.

  5. What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sheesh, would it have been too hard to spell out the acronym once?

    Typical for you nerds. :(

    1. Re:What is ALS!? by dogsbreath · · Score: 4, Informative

      ALS or Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis or Lou Gehrig's Disease.

      Quoting from Wikipedia

      "[ALS] is a form of motor neuron disease caused by the degeneration of neurons located in the ventral horn of the spinal cord and the cortical neurons that provide their afferent input. The condition is often called Lou Gehrig's disease in North America, after the famous New York Yankees baseball player who was diagnosed with the disease in 1939. The disorder is characterized by rapidly progressive weakness, muscle atrophy and fasciculations, spasticity, dysarthria, dysphagia, and respiratory compromise. Sensory function generally is spared, as is autonomic, and oculomotor activity. ALS is a progressive,[1] fatal, neurodegenerative disease with most affected patients dying of respiratory compromise and pneumonia after 2 to 3 years; although occasional individuals have a more indolent course and survive for many years."

      It isn't a computer techie nerd term, it is a medical term. ALS is in the news about as much as MS so I think most folk would reasonably conclude that anyone who crawls out of their personal rut now and then would have heard about it. Also, if you don't know what ALS is then the expansion probably would not help. At one time "Lou Gehrig's" would have been more common than ALS but I think it may be the other way around now.

      Google is just a mouse click away.

    2. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google is just a mouse click away.

      Yes, but Google is also just a click or a shortcut away for the submitter/editor.

      There are many acronyms with different meanings. Anyway, as this here clearly refers to Medicine:

      • Advanced life support, a level of medical training
      • Anterolateral system, part of the nervous system
      • Antibodies from Lymphocyte Secretions, an immunological assay

      ... well, you get the picture.

      For /. as a news aggregator site (albeit for nerds), it would be nice to explain acronyms which are not common for every nerd. That's one single step for a single submitter/editor—and saves lots of Google leaps by readers.

    3. Re:What is ALS!? by dogsbreath · · Score: 0

      Oh please, don't make excuses for lazy readers. The submission was succinct but clear : "suffering from ALS and had lost motor skills". If the reader can't figure out that ALS is a disease from that then their web license should be taken away. Spelling out ALS is not going to help and from that point you'd have to draw a picture for them.

      Submission description was good; complainer was lazy and/or ignorant. Plenty of replies in the text with full descriptions of ALS which the lazy reader could find enlightenment from.

      There are other poor submissions more worthy of your comment.

    4. Re:What is ALS!? by laurelraven · · Score: 2

      There are many acronyms with different meanings. Anyway, as this here clearly refers to Medicine:

      I just did a quick Google search and found that alternate uses of ALS don't show up until the 8th link; the top 7 are all about Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. Acronym overload is only a valid excuse when there isn't an overwhelming preference for one particular usage, or that this usage is not the overwhelming use case for that acronym. Since it is the most common use of the acronym, spelling it out is a bit redundant; submitters and editors here alike should be able to reasonably assume that the vast majority of readers here understand what Google is and how to use it. If readers don't use the tools right in front of them, that is their own fault.

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    5. Re:What is ALS!? by wwphx · · Score: 2

      ALS truly sucks. A friend of mine who's less than a year older than me, we grew up on the same street and have known each other for 50 years now, is dying of it. He was a very vital person, frequently went hunting, avid firearms enthusiast, excellent computer and networking tech, and now he's in a powered chair and almost unable to cough. It's heart wrenching to go to see him, but he appreciates the visit and my wife plays harp for him which he and his wife really enjoy. As we live 500 miles away, we can only visit every 2-3 months.

      I've seen a lot of death over the years and lost friends and family to: cancer, strokes, Alzheimers, murder, suicide, vehicular accidents, and now this gets added to the list and it rates pretty high on how I do not wish to go. Your brain is totally unimpaired, but your body is shutting down around you. I thought my life sucked with not having much of an immune system and having to stick four needles in my abdomen for 90 minutes twice a week to get reasonable immunity support, but there's always someone with something worse and it's quite humbling to see it.

      Stephen Hawking is perhaps the best known ALS patient (or has something related to ALS), it's amazing that he's lived as long as he has but he's definitely been the statistical outlier. They're now questioning whether or not Lou Gehrig actually had the disease that was named after him.

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    6. Re:What is ALS!? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      What do you mean, "you nerds"? This is news for nerds. Says so at the top (err...it used to). If you're not a nerd, what're you doing here?

    7. Re:What is ALS!? by Americano · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, it's easy to Google this term. Yes, the reader could have done a search. But writing style standards generally suggest that the abbreviation should be spelled out, then included parenthetically after the full spelling, for abbreviations.

      If the editors could be bothered to, you know, edit things for clarity, they could have written:

      "[...] Adrian Hands was suffering from Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS - also sometimes referred to as Lou Gehrig's Disease) and had lost motor skills..."

      Look at it this way: if you're a writer, do you want people reading what you wrote, or do you want their focus taken away from your work when they start googling all the medical terms you use? If you don't care about the quality of the summaries, why don't we just turn Slashdot into a giant list of links, with helpful summaries such as "LOL COOL!"?

    8. Re:What is ALS!? by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      Sigh... this is /., not the APA

      LOL

    9. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Writing style standards? This isn't a scholarly paper. Given the complaint I doubt that your verbose version would have helped.

    10. Re:What is ALS!? by Americano · · Score: 1

      So you think that slashdot editors would rather send all of their readers to Google to search up cryptic abbreviations, rather than keep them here generating page views?

      How curious.

    11. Re:What is ALS!? by Americano · · Score: 0

      The New York Times and your local newspaper aren't "scholarly papers" either. The masthead of this site identifies Slashdot as "news for nerds" - if it aims to be a "news" site of any sort, it certainly should aspire to some minimum standards of clarity and usefulness in the writing being presented by its editors. The point of writing is communication - if you are communicating in a way that confuses your reader, or leaves them with more questions than answers, then you have failed as a writer. If we're going to abandon any idea of making the writing as clear & informative as possible here, we might as well fire all the editors, and simply turn /. into a simple list of links with a tag cloud attached. Yay, more Digg.

      Given the complaint, it's entirely likely that many of the people asking "What's ALS?" have heard of "Lou Gehrig's Disease" without knowing its actual medical name or the abbreviation for it.

    12. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what's REALLY fucking scary? ALS is almost never attributed to genetics. That's right...it's acquired through your environment, and no one's really sure how.

      Sweet dreams.

    13. Re:What is ALS!? by rockfistus · · Score: 0

      Agreed. And I'm one of those lazy readers. I typically come to read Slashdot while I'm eating, and most days I forget to bring my 3rd arm so it's pretty difficult/and or/greasy to go googling shit.

    14. Re:What is ALS!? by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      No but they don't assume we're stupid either. I'm just saying that just expanding the term would not have improved things. The description was brief, understandable and to the point. This isn't an academic journal and the readers multitask and side click all the time.... especially if they RTFA. This wasn't a hard one and the complainant was whinging. I did insult him, mildly, but not before I gave him the info he wanted. Doubt that he read it though as he was anon.

      er... I think you're a little OC on this. poke poke poke ;->

    15. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, and from now on I insist that slasdot spell out FBI, CIA, RIAA, MPAA and CPU. Because, you know, I'm an asshat that's more worried about writing standards than brevity and readability.

    16. Re:What is ALS!? by steelfood · · Score: 1

      Personally, "Lou Gehrig's" is more recognizable than ALS.

      The way I see it, ALS can stand for anything, but Lou Gehrig's is Lou Gehrig's. What the editor should have done (but didn't, not that I would expect as much) is put "Lou Gehrig's" in parenthesis after ALS.

      --
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
    17. Re:What is ALS!? by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      ROTFL
      Mod parent +1 Funny.

    18. Re:What is ALS!? by ktappe · · Score: 1

      Google is just a mouse click away.

      Yes, but Google is also just a click or a shortcut away for the submitter/editor.

      Disagree. /. is one of the few refuges I have in my life where I can read articles that don't treat me as if I'm in 3rd grade. Seeing ALS not spelled out is refreshing and very welcome. Honestly, it is your fault if you have not heard of ALS. It is in the news quite a bit, and on human interest stories, health stories, on Jeopardy, in film, etc. It is not uncommon. Please don't defend the dumbing down of /. because you elect not to read the newspaper (or e-equivalent thereof.)

      --
      "We can categorically state we have not released man-eating badgers into the area." - UK military spokesman, July 2007
    19. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, of course we've heard of Microsoft....this is slashdot!

    20. Re:What is ALS!? by wwphx · · Score: 1

      My friend with ALS said they've found sometimes a bacterial/amoebic/parasitic link in some locations. In our case, we grew up in Phoenix next to the canals, and every winter they drain the canals for maintenance. We played in them every year as kids, and apparently this is very similar to the conditions where ALS clusters have been found in the past. There's no such cluster in Phoenix or this area, so we don't know if this could be the source of his problem.

      --
      When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.
    21. Re:What is ALS!? by Americano · · Score: 0

      I'm very sorry to hear that your reading ability is so limited that you can't gloss over a single occurence of the words "Federal Bureau of Investigation" when you see "(FBI)" lurking 4 words away in the text.

      Is it congenital, or did you suffer some sort of massive head trauma as a child? Does it hurt?

    22. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hilarious! The poster points out that you are obsessive compulsive and anal retentive, then you go and prove it in your reply! I love this shit!

    23. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, of course we've heard of Microsoft....this is slashdot!

      I suppose that if an article said "Bob was suffering from MS and had lost bladder control", the reader could easily be confused about whether the reference was to Microsoft or to Multiple Sclerosis. Either fits the context like a glove on OJ's hand.

    24. Re:What is ALS!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. is one of the few refuges I have in my life where I can read articles that don't treat me as if I'm in 3rd grade.

      Yes, I appreciate this, too. It would be irritating reading a short definition of ALS in the summary, as this would be unnecessary for most readers. And they can look it up to educate themselves.

      Seeing ALS not spelled out is refreshing and very welcome.

      Do you really care? "Refreshing" is a weird term for something not worth any notion or thought. So just spell it out once for those few who don't have a grasp, this hardly hurts any neuroscientist (as I am).

      Honestly, it is your fault if you have not heard of ALS. It is in the news quite a bit, and on human interest stories, health stories, on Jeopardy, in film, etc. It is not uncommon. Please don't defend the dumbing down of /. because you elect not to read the newspaper (or e-equivalent thereof.)

      This is dumbing down my comment (I'm your parent):

      a) I've heard about ALS. I know the symptoms. I know how it develops.

      b) If somebody doesn't consume media as much as I do, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

      c) While I would be surprised if I met anybody who doesn't have a clue what ALS means, such people may exist. I hope they feel some urge to educate themselves. The summary is not the place for basic explanations.

      d) Dumbing down /. more than it is already would make me cry. (The fucking summaries are often not even worth the bits they're stored with; the value of /. lies in the occasional intelligent article and, more often, in the few intelligent comments and insightful discussion of educated readers.)

      In any case, spelling out abbreviations wouldn't hurt and doesn't dumb anything down. I wouldn't even recognize it. Explaining every single (or even one single) scientific/technical term in the summary would dumb /. down, but nobody is talking about this.

  6. Deeply touching by goatsetroll · · Score: 0

    I just can't post a goatse link in this post.... Don't have words to describe it.

    1. Re:Deeply touching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just can't post a goatse link in this post.... Don't have words to describe it.

      What goatse or this story?

    2. Re:Deeply touching by goatsetroll · · Score: 1

      This story of course. See, trolls aren't that bad after all

    3. Re:Deeply touching by StudCapsFTW · · Score: 1, Funny

      I just can't post a goatse link in this post.... Don't have words to describe it.

      It is touching that this man was able to carry on with things that were important to him despite the crippling effects of ALS. It seems that even near the end of his fight, he took joy from maintaining some normalcy in his life. He really wanted the world to treat him just the same as if he never had the disease - as a man with something positive to add (and the open source model helped make this possible). If it hadn't been for his son, we never would have known of his condition. I don't think Adrian Hands wanted special treatment or consideration from others. Your concerns are admirable, but I think if Mr. Hands were still alive, he wouldn't want to be coddled with kid gloves just because of what he was going through. So go ahead and post your goatse link, just like you would on any other thread. In a perverse way, he would have wanted you to.

    4. Re:Deeply touching by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      Thanks for small mercies.

    5. Re:Deeply touching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if you yourself call yourself "not that bad", then in the eyes of everyone else it only makes you a pretentious troll. You see, we don't give a damn about you, and only notice you thanks to your desperate gaping attempts at grabbing attention.

    6. Re:Deeply touching by socsoc · · Score: 1

      This isn't touching at all. People do this all the time. Just cause it was gnome it's more important? Who cares.

    7. Re:Deeply touching by Edzilla2000 · · Score: 1

      People use their feet to code in Morse while being a few days away from death all the time? In what world?

    8. Re:Deeply touching by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

      It's an example. Not more important... just an example. If you'd like to contribute some other stories like this... feel free. Or, you could get that stick that's wedged in your butt removed. :)

      --
      It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.
    9. Re:Deeply touching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks to your desperate gaping attempts at grabbing attention.

      Gaping attempts? Really?

  7. That is commitment by billyea · · Score: 2

    Committed members like this, that sacrifice their time and effort, are what keep the open source movement alive and churning out functional code. So in the end, he left the world with a legacy of improving software for everyone else, doing what he loved, and cleaning up loose ends. Can't blame him at all.

  8. A gift to the world by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are so many who benefit from the community, and so relatively few who give back. So many people claim some excuse to not contribute anything to anybody without getting paid.

    Then there's this guy.

    I am honored to have shared a planet with him.

    --
    You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
  9. ALS by mjwx · · Score: 4, Informative

    ALS is Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyotrophic_lateral_sclerosis It's a form of motor neurone disease, not a nice way to go.

    --
    Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    1. Re:ALS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >not a nice way to go.

      Is there such a thing :-| ?

    2. Re:ALS by Millennium · · Score: 1

      There probably isn't such a thing as a truly good way to go, but there are degrees of suck. I can think of worse ways to go than ALS, but not many.

    3. Re:ALS by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      >not a nice way to go.

      Is there such a thing :-| ?

      Painlessly while sleeping, for example. Many would argue that it's one of the nicest ways of going.

    4. Re:ALS by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Yes, there are. Lightning is good, if it's instantly fatal. A Mack truck can do a pretty quick job of it. If you happen to like skydiving, you could hope that you enjoy a nice long freefall, to be splatted instantly on your last jump. Then, there is drowning - it's really not bad at all - a brief struggle for air, then falling into lethargy, then sleep. Probably the easiest and best of all is to check out in the middle of a good night's sleep.

      Personally, I hope to die at age 99, shot by a jealous husband. And, I'm hoping he's a damn good shot!

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    5. Re:ALS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of nicer ways to go than ALS. Many accidents kill people almost instantly, for example.

    6. Re:ALS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ask Felix Faure

    7. Re:ALS by outsider007 · · Score: 1

      Unlike screaming and buggering 9 year olds like the others on his bus.

      --
      If you mod me down the terrorists will have won
    8. Re:ALS by mjwx · · Score: 1

      >not a nice way to go.

      Is there such a thing :-| ?

      Painlessly while sleeping, for example. Many would argue that it's one of the nicest ways of going.

      Motor Neurone is a particularly bad way. You slowly lose control over all your faculties until something like pneumonia or the common cold finally kills you. Your quality of life suffers a lot, you live for a while at a stage where you cant even feed yourself because you're unable to move a spoon from a bowl to your mouth.

      Degenerative disorders are worse then car accidents IMHO, even though dying in a car accident would be pretty painful (most people die from blood loss or trauma IIRC) it's relatively quick.

      I suppose self administered lethal injection would be the best way, first shot sedates you, second paralyses, third kills but by the time the second needle starts pumping you're well out of it. I am in favour of decriminalising Euthanasia.

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    9. Re:ALS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh. Drowning? No panicked grasping for air for me, thanks. I've always favored overdosing on heroin while riding a derailing freight train off a cliff.

      CAPTCHA: succumbs :)

    10. Re:ALS by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Dying of a heart attack of the excitement of sharing a bed with lots of beautiful women would qualify in my eyes.

      --
      Well, I might have a way, but it only works on a semi spherical planet in a vacuum.
  10. What a joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what's more amazing, how he wrote the patch or the fact that the ticket was open for 9 years and the only person who managed to do it was someone who could barely move to even press the keys required to type up the patch.

  11. As much as I'd like... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    As much as I'd like to say something teary-eyed, all I can think of is:
    "And this is just how day-to-day GNOME development looks like."

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    45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2
  12. Mr. Hands by charlievarrick · · Score: 5, Funny

    Irony.

    1. Re:Mr. Hands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr. Hands died with his coding boots on.

    2. Re:Mr. Hands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, that's cruel.

      It's a bit like calling your retarded kid Trig.

    3. Re:Mr. Hands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the GNOME logo is a foot...

    4. Re:Mr. Hands by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Well, that's better than calling him Trog.

    5. Re:Mr. Hands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wish I could vote this "Painfully funny".

    6. Re:Mr. Hands by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      And, on that note:

      "Oh no, Mr. Bill!"

  13. fulfilling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can only hope that my last moments are as fulfilling. Still doing the things you love when the odds are greatly against you.

    1. Re:fulfilling by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      Having been beside a couple of folk as they declined and passed away, I would think that using the mind for something rewarding is not so bad. I hope his final moments were with someone who could comfort him so he was not alone.

    2. Re:fulfilling by Seumas · · Score: 1

      This story actually made me stop and think about what I would do as I neared my last moments and I frankly can't think of a single thing I am quite that passionate about. Just crazy. And kind of awesome.

    3. Re:fulfilling by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      I hear your sentiment - but some of us would rather be alone. And, yes, like yourself, I've sat and held hands with a few who have died. The first was my Grandpa, and there have been a couple of complete strangers on the roadside after auto accidents. Mehhh. I'd rather just die alone, than to have some butt ugly dude like myself sitting there holding my hand while I die.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    4. Re:fulfilling by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Hey - it doesn't have to be some great big fame and/or fortune thing. My mother in law only wanted to hold her great grandchildren, and to be able to change their diapers in her last days. All her life long, the woman all but worshipped babies, and the more closely they were related to her, the better. Whatever makes you happy works.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    5. Re:fulfilling by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      I suppose... you certainly don't need someone crying. Having someone telling you "it's all right" and making comforting comments is probably better for most of us. Then again, in Canada we put our elderly on ice floes and release them to the sea to die.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_to_Americans

      search for "ice floes"

    6. Re:fulfilling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm passionate about flying aircraft... I hope I don't go out doing what I love.

  14. Indeed by goatsetroll · · Score: 1

    Thats because of nature of open source.
    You really have to do it yourself, and not count on others.
    Sometimes as a unexpected surprise some might help you, but don't count on that.

  15. Stuff like this makes me angry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we had a serious, concerted effort at life extension, similar to the "not because they are easy, but because they are hard" speech by Kennedy, curing diseases like this would be easier. We really don't understand our biology and as such have to content ourselves with the empricial, slow and piece-meal approach that is modern medicine.

    1. Re:Stuff like this makes me angry by Seumas · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but the real money is in giving old men more hair and boners and reducing teenage acne.

    2. Re:Stuff like this makes me angry by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      And fixing one, often means you need more drugs to fix the other... http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/04/09/0151206/Mercks-Drug-Propecia-Linked-To-Sexual-Dysfunction Doh!

  16. Re:Is this the same? by TheCycoONE · · Score: 1

    They both had ALS yes; but 'retardation' in the medical community refers to a psychological problem (http://www.assessmentpsychology.com/iqclassifications.htm), and ALS evidently does not impede mental functioning.

  17. this is what gnome is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gnome is trying to bring open source to the disabled. there is the cool window managers for the able bodied users but gnome does try really hard accessabilty wise. Several other gnome developers have died of their disabillties over the years.

    1. Re:this is what gnome is by Beelzebud · · Score: 0

      Yep, one day you might even be able to run it.

  18. not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... the ticket was open for 9 years and the only person who managed to do it was someone who could barely move to even press the keys required to type up the patch.

    That's why it took so long.

  19. A/S/L by mtmra70 · · Score: 0

    16/M/Orlando

    1. Re:A/S/L by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Mr. Hands had a serious disability, what's yours? ..oh, sorry, I didn't notice the big 'M' letter. Carry on.

    2. Re:A/S/L by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You go, girlfriend! Nothing like a little gender bashing to start the day off right, huh?

    3. Re:A/S/L by GCsoftware · · Score: 1

      Yours is clearly a total lack of a sense of humour.

    4. Re:A/S/L by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Mr. Hands had a serious disability, what's yours? ..oh, sorry, I didn't notice the big 'M' letter. Carry on.

      And you're is prejudice. A most serious disability.

      You're making me wish I never posted on this thread, although it netted me a +5 insightful I also have mod points, for which that little nugget would have earned you a -1 Troll.

      Your comment was far more insulting then the GP, who was simply ignorant, you on the other hand are angry and spiteful.

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  20. Strange Disease by bigattichouse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My family and I took care of my father-in-law as he declined and eventually succumbed to ALS in 2004. Every tiny act was monumental, even going out and getting a haircut, or a shaving him, or eating.

    I can tell you that motor is the ONLY thing that goes. Pain stays, mental function stays, it is a pretty hellish existance for the sufferer. And something they could do just fine today - gone tomorrow... no predictability to it. And then there are painful muscle spasms as things go wrong. until they finally aren't able to breathe any more and die. I'm glad the mentioned coder was able to find a way to keep going, and put their mark on things.

    The main medication at the time (@ $900 a pill), only worked for 18 months at which point your symptoms would be identical to as if you didn't take it - so it slowed things down enough to buy you time to get your affairs in order, and then all the progression caught back up. I don't know about current meds.

    What's bothered me is that there is VERY little understanding of the disease, and how you get it - there are risk factors (being in a war is one, so is eating bats in guam). The VA had a HUGE list of questions that sounded like they were just grasping at statistical straws.

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    meh
    1. Re:Strange Disease by sconeu · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I can confirm this. My wife suffers from ALS, and every day is a struggle. Some days are better than others, but she's got the painful spasms every day.

      I'm in awe that Adrian could do this in the final phases.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    2. Re:Strange Disease by Gaygirlie · · Score: 5

      I can confirm this. My wife suffers from ALS, and every day is a struggle

      I know it doesn't really matter that some completely random person on the internets says this, but I feel really sorry for both of you : I can only imagine how hard it is, both for your wife and for you to watch the disease eating her away :

    3. Re:Strange Disease by oakgrove · · Score: 3

      I want to say something but everything I can think of just seems hollow compared to what you both must be going through. Be strong.

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      The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
    4. Re:Strange Disease by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

      It's rough, I feel for you.

      Make sure you take breaks away every now and then, that was always the hard part.

      Do you have someone who can help? I'd be happy to help research nonprofits in your area that might offer day services to let you go out and recharge.

      --
      meh
    5. Re:Strange Disease by Zerocool3001 · · Score: 1

      I can't speak about 2004, I was just getting out of high school then. But I do know that we are working very hard on finding a cure for ALS (and other neurodegenerative diseases). There have been some amazing advances in the past few years, namely surrounding destruction and regenerating of the myelin (look that up if you want to learn more) surrounding neurons that seems to be the primary cause of degeneration. I myself have seen a couple of fellow labs come up with techniques that seem to smooth out and encourage the remyelination that naturally occurs in humans and seems to be missing in patients with ALS.

      Its terrible to see someone pass away like this when some days it feels like we are so close we can taste it.

      --
      Science will save us. The question is, will it destroy us first?
    6. Re:Strange Disease by sconeu · · Score: 1

      To all three of you -- Gaygirlie, oakgrove, and bigattichouse --

      Thank you very much, I appreciate the good wishes.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    7. Re:Strange Disease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My sympathies both your wife and to you. My father passed from ALS several years back - it's a terrible illness, and it's particulars can take a terrible toll on caregivers as well as the victims, something my family is only just recovering from. I greatly hope that you're seeking outside help for assistance, as it's very important for both of you to receive support.

    8. Re:Strange Disease by Zerocool3001 · · Score: 1

      text

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    9. Re:Strange Disease by Zerocool3001 · · Score: 1

      tex

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      Science will save us. The question is, will it destroy us first?
    10. Re:Strange Disease by Zerocool3001 · · Score: 1

      ttxt

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      Science will save us. The question is, will it destroy us first?
    11. Re:Strange Disease by Zerocool3001 · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Weird error.

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      Science will save us. The question is, will it destroy us first?
    12. Re:Strange Disease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm really sorry to hear that. Hugs to you both from a stranger.

    13. Re:Strange Disease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>I can tell you that motor is the ONLY thing that goes.

      My aunt is currently suffering from bulbar nerve ALS. It does affect other things than motor functions. It causes a certain amount of rigidity of thought as well. Though not an especial amount.

      >>I don't know about current meds.

      There isn't anything that works. :(

      >>The VA had a HUGE list of questions that sounded like they were just grasping at statistical straws.

      Yep. It's a terrible, horrible disease, and it's made worse by the fact that nobody really knows what causes it.

    14. Re:Strange Disease by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      My grandfather had it, and died when I was 5 years old, didn't really know him.

      I remember getting a (seemingly at the time) large amount of blood taken when I was younger (8-10 maybe) for ALS research many years. I remember hearing that there is a hereditary link with the disease (or they thought so at the time), I guess they were trying to see if there was any indicators if either my sister or I got it. I had also heard that it skips a generation. Anyway after hearing all this, and I have done some research on my own, I have come to the conclusion that they really just have no idea what causes it. I have also heard that it is very difficult to diagnose early on, or is misdiagnosed which is one of the problems for research.

      Anyway it is a terrible disease, and it certainly puts life into perspective. Between that and seeing a story of this British guy (looked like a kid, but I don't think he was) that had some very rare terrible disease that his skin basically fall off, any problems I might have seem somewhat trivial and unimportant. Anytime I see someone worked up about some BS, I am reminded about that, and as crappy as things can get or as tough as they might be, they don't really hold a candle to what some people endure, and in some cases try to keep positive and capable. I like to think, that I can use their strength to solve whatever stupid problem I have as it really puts things in the right perspective. Not to take away from many other tragedies that people have to deal with everyday or to trivialize others difficulties, but you get the idea.

    15. Re:Strange Disease by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

      Oddly reminiscent of what ALS is like.

      --
      meh
    16. Re:Strange Disease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry that you two are going through this. All I can do is wish the two of you well.

  21. Important by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Important is a relative term. It's different for everybody. If you're doing something you honestly love, that's not a bad way to spend your last few days.

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    Weaselmancer
    rediculous.
    1. Re:Important by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Or in a crueler interpretation, it might be a way to get your mind off things. At least one person I heard about became something of a workaholic during his divorce, coming home to his big old empty house was a big downer. A girl in her early 20s who learned she had six months to live quit her studies - what was the point? - and spent most of that drunk. If I had an imminent death hanging over me, I'd go crazy. Filling up your day with "normal" activity is a way to stay sane.

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    2. Re:Important by rsimpson · · Score: 1

      It isn't even really about doing something you honestly love, it is the sense of giving back and making a difference - no matter how small - in the world. I have submitted bug patches to Open Source projects before, and when you hit that submit button there is a sense of "there is one less problem in the world now".

      I would like to think that when he submitted that patch, he felt he had made the world a better place and improved someones life. Something that had been ignored for 9 years is now resolved. That was his gift back to humanity.

    3. Re:Important by moonbender · · Score: 1

      I have submitted bug patches to Open Source projects before, and when you hit that submit button there is a sense of "there is one less problem in the world now".

      I have the opposite feeling most times I hit the Submit button in a forum!

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  22. He knew more Morse than most... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    I for one didn't even know you could enter non alphanumeric characters in Morse code. I wouldn't even begin to know how to even do a CR/LF in Morse, for that matter.

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    1. Re:He knew more Morse than most... by dbc · · Score: 1

      Yes, few of us know any punctuation beyond comma, period, and question mark. ('?' being used most often as a short hand for "duh... wha?? say again?") But the international Morse alphabet is still growing! Not that long ago, '@' was added so that you can send e-mail addresses with Morse code. And there are other variants, like Cyrillic Morse. I'm guessing he had an interface that accepted standard international Morse code with some extensions -- I'm not sure the '{' has a defined standard pattern, for instance.

    2. Re:He knew more Morse than most... by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Since he didn't need any human to understand what he said, only a computer, he could have devised any characters he wished.

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  23. Awesome story by Clsid · · Score: 1

    One of the best stories I have read on this site so far. As one of the previous posters said, it's all about the human spirit. May he rest in peace.

  24. Re:Is this the same? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ALS evidently does not impede mental functioning.

    Clearly, as this was a Gnome patch, not an EMACS patch.

  25. a great soul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My father is suffering from the final stages of MS. Every day is a struggle, he's lost the use of both legs and one arm. He can barely use his one good arm but he loves searching google for information using an iPad I gave him, one finger tapping when he has the strength. He's completely bedridden, I've tried to comfort him as much as possible. He loves watching TV most days. He was in the Air Force and quickly became sick afterwards, it's been about 25 years with him watching him degenerating slowly.

    I believe this man Adrian was doing what he loved. You have no idea how much of a great thing it is to be near a computer, and actually using a computer and the internet to a severely disabled person. When you are stuck inside all day and only have your immediate family around, it can be such a mental drain that the internet and a connection to others is a great way to keep in touch. What's really not surprising is that Adrian was writing patches to help people with disabilities.

    That is something that's severely overlooked, imagine not being able to type, let alone move a mouse. I thank that man for helping people (even if it's a few who use gnome), he on his last days perhaps comforted someone else in the same shape he was in.

  26. Thank you Ian and Adrian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Adrian Hands and his family are a great example of why free software is a better way to celebrate and promote human achievement. Beyond the free access and the practical benefits, in the end, the most important thing is the development of community and freedom to participate and engage with making the world a better place. The freedom to pursue what you love, including solving small problems one at a time, to relentlessly make computers better for people with disabilities. The freedom to develop the skills and initiative to hack together devices that let people write software with their knees.

    The most important qualities of free software and hacking ideologies are sometimes forgotten by their own communities and it always is hard to communicate them to others. This seems a good indication of just how sick and dehumanizing the "regular way" of doing things really is and how important it is to continue to reach out and demonstrate the beauty of hacking and free software, starting with just doing what you love.

    1. Re:Thank you Ian and Adrian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well stated.Adrian's first computer -1977 Com. Pet-

  27. What does this say about GNOME developers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nine years?

  28. Re:I dont know whats more pathetic by Beelzebud · · Score: 1

    It must be a miserable life you live.

  29. Won't last long by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    The patch was reverted in Gnome 3 because someone found it useful.

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    1. Re:Won't last long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, sir, are officially an asshole.

  30. That's amazing by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 1

    That he could do that. Of course ALS sucks. (Which I would be familiar with since I took care of my mom when she was dying of it.)

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  31. Actually you'd be surprised how many people havent by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 1
    I mean based on my experience a large portion of the population here (Massachusetts) has no idea what you mean if you use those 3 letters. Usually my spiel about my mom went like this

    She has ALS

    What's that?

    Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis

    What's that?

    Have you ever heard of Lou Gherig's disease?

    Most people say oh that's horrible at this point. Actually in one case someone wasn't familiar with Lou Gherig's disease. (Admittedly that was understandable since the fellow was an immigrant. He was familiar with Stephen Hawking though so I mentioned it was the disease he had although I'm not sure if that's technically correct.)

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  32. Add Copy Image and Copy Path to clipboard function by hduff · · Score: 1

    Really? It took 9 years for someone to do this?

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  33. Re:Stephen Hawking Ruined it for Everybody by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What bar? This ain't a contest, there's always going to be someone who's better than you.

    Personally, I think the only person you are in competition with is you yourself. Are you better than you were a year ago? Then you win.

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  34. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by dogsbreath · · Score: 0

    I stand corrected.

    One should never blame conspiracy for what stupidity readily explains and never be surprised at the extent of ignorance in the general population.

    Cheers

  35. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Gehrig, not Gherig.

    Also, it's Gandhi, not Ghandi.

  36. This is why people still believe in god by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 1

    Where else could be be but hacker heaven?

    1. Re:This is why people still believe in god by merdaccia · · Score: 1

      He is in hacker heaven. Look around. I see are a ton of hackers paying him respect and being touched by his story, myself included. I'm pretty sure quite a few people will remember him for quite a while. If that's not life after death, I don't know what is.

      Thanks for the commit and for the inspiration, Adrian Hands.

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    2. Re:This is why people still believe in god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In hacker heaven, software must have lots of tricky bugs to fix. This must also make it customer hell.

    3. Re:This is why people still believe in god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, let's not use this mans death as some kind of a talking point. I'm a militant atheist and frankly I don't even care to argue about this. He was loved deeply and will be missed as much. That's what matters.

  37. Learn Morse now... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    ... because you might need it later.

    Gratuitous plug for a friend's CW site

  38. Inspiring story! by dwheeler · · Score: 1

    Wow, what an inspiring story! Someone who worked to help others, to the very end. My congrats to him, and my condolences to his family.

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  39. Re:Stephen Hawking Ruined it for Everybody by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I'm in competition with my self from a year ago. And yes, in a year, I will look back at this moment and probably be "losing" against my future self. But that's ok, I kinda hope I lose against my future self.

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  40. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

    Ahhh, the brain's ok but my fingers get my mords wixed up. Thanks.

  41. Most poignant thing about it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My father passed away yesterday. I went back through my email to find our last
    correspondence (he was in India for treatment, and I live in Raleigh). I would
    like to share the email with you.

    It's appalling if he had to go to India for treatment because of intractability of the US healthcare system.

    1. Re:Most poignant thing about it is by Tokah · · Score: 3, Informative

      ALS is incurable. We have a drug that extends life by about three months, but it costs about $1000 a month and had terrible side effects. We have some symptomatic treatment: antispastics, bipaps/ventilators, feeding tubes, etc, but that's it.

      If you want anything beyond that, you need to try out unproven stuff. Some people go out of the country to take their chances with wild clinical trials or pure charlatans. It isn't the medical system's fault in this case - they have tried nearly everly legal drug in mice models. Nothing had budged anywhere.

  42. you're on the wrong website by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    play is nothing but work you enjoy doing

    most people posting on this site understands what it means to hack/ program/ factor/ compile/ etc. out of sheer fun. to a lot of us, its pleasurable play. if you find computer development to be a dreary chore and nothing else, you need a new career, assuming you aren't already a surfer or dog walker who enjoys posting on slashdot for some reason

    i completely understand what motivated adrian, and were a debilitating disease to claim my life, i'd be honored to stand in this great man's company and leave this world playing (not working) the same way

    there's that famous dylan thomas poem with that line "rage, rage against the dying of the light." it is a completely valid rage in the face of death to do what in a year of your healthy life you would consider routine: "take that ALS, i'm going carry on, as if you never touched me." a nice assertive middle finger at ALS, good for him! that's the way a strong man leaves this world

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  43. ALS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm guessing that it DOESN'T stand for "All Ladies Shaved" in this instance?

  44. Re:Add Copy Image and Copy Path to clipboard funct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux!

    Did you no that there is no GUI application for configuring multi-button mice? That is, any mouse with more than 3 buttons. How long have such mice existed?

  45. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's dumb to call it ALS. People are much better at recognizing people than acronyms.

    Most people say oh that's horrible at this point. Actually in one case someone wasn't familiar with Lou Gherig's disease. (Admittedly that was understandable since the fellow was an immigrant. He was familiar with Stephen Hawking though so I mentioned it was the disease he had although I'm not sure if that's technically correct.)

    It is. It's interesting that a physicist is more notable than a baseball player, though that might be due to him being an immigrant.

  46. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stephen Hawking has been diagnosed with ALS. There is some doubt, as the disease is usually terminal within a few years, but Dr. Hawking has survived more than 30 after diagnosis (I believe he was diagnosed at 25, he's 69, that's 44 years). The diagnosis does still fit with ALS, but his case is unique.

  47. Yeah, what's the deal with slow Gnome developers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like they have ALS or something!

  48. as u kno where in EoG is the copy feature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you seem to know so please tell us;

    i just opened a jpeg by clicking and selecting Open with image viewer, and then used help about the to check that it is EoG, it was ver 2.23.0. But could not find the copy function anywhere, you can click in the body of the image and do what i guess is X drag 'n drop, but where is the single menu item discussed? what action executes the big of code?

    cheers

    1. Re:as u kno where in EoG is the copy feature? by ebassi · · Score: 1

      the commit was made in December last year; it's in EoG 3.0. I doubt it was backported to the 2.x series, and I'm pretty sure it won't be backported to version 2.23.0, which was the first release in the 2.23 development cycle - which happened 2 and a half years ago.

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  49. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by Tokah · · Score: 2

    Hawking was diagnosed with ALS before motor neuron disease names became more distinct. Today, what he has is called Spinal Muscular Atrophy, stage 4. ALS is a disease of both the upper (brain into spine) and lower (spine to muscles) nerves. SMA is a purely lower motor neuron disease. The opposite is Primary Lateral Sclerosis, a motor neuron disease of just the uppers. We MNDers stick together, so he's still in our club.

  50. Could vitamin D and veggies help? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 0
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    1. Re:Could vitamin D and veggies help? by wwphx · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the suggestions, I'll check in to the links you've posted. I have a pretty good vitamin regimen and monitor my metabolic levels pretty closely due to a parathyroid problem a few years ago. My friend is pretty far gone, I'm sure they've checked in to things like this. He was on an experimental drug trial where they tested a drug used for Alzheimer's, the trial was successful, but in this case success just delays the inevitable. I don't remember what they monitor to determine the advancement of the condition, T levels or something, and the Alzheimer's drug did improve the levels but it isn't a cure.

      In my case, while I maintain treatment I have reasonable immune response to infection after having pneumonia 4 or 5 times over a six month period 2+ years ago. CVID is not rapidly degenerative, but it's likely to knock a decade or so off my life, and as I'm in an NIH study program, I'm monitored pretty closely. The main problem for me aside from the discomfort and inconvenience of the treatment is the cost: if we didn't have health insurance, the treatment would run more than $5,000 a month and would obviously be unaffordable.

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    2. Re:Could vitamin D and veggies help? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the reply. Putting in VItamin D and CVID into Google gets me this as a top result:
          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18451650
      "Patients with CVID may present asymptomatic vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin D and VDRs play an important role in the innate immune system and modulate Toll-like receptor-related responses. Delay in diagnosis may predispose these patients not only to irreparable bone loss but also to infections, and autoimmune and malignant disorders, thus emphasizing the importance of prompt intervention."

      As a start, be sure to get your Vitamin D level checked, and get the actual number, and compare it against these two suggestions (the 40-60 ng/mL range):
          http://www.grassrootshealth.net/
          http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml
          http://www.heartscanblog.org/2009/01/why-rda-for-vitamin-d.html

      A slightly lower target:
          http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/vitamin_D_recommendations.aspx

      Basically, your immune system needs vitamin D to "trigger and arm" the immune system:
          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7379094/Vitamin-D-triggers-and-arms-the-immune-system.html

      But, it also needs vitamin D to shut down an excessive immune response too (thus it can be involved in both too little and too much immune response). More on that:
      http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/h1n1-flu-and-vitamin-d.shtml

      And of course you need the basic phytonutrients from plants (many as yet undiscovered) for your body to be at its best.

      Anyway, your health may well involve other issues. Still, what people often call "genetic" is really an issue of how genes interact with an environment (including what we eat and how much sunlight we get) and if we can change the environment, sometimes we can keep our weak links from ever being exposed (Dr. Fuhrman says that in his book "Eat to Live").

      If I said anything helpful to you, I'm glad, and you can pay me back by helping someone else with such information or something else someday. :-)

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    3. Re:Could vitamin D and veggies help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not surprised that there are vitamin and dietary directions to explore. We have children who were diagnosed autistic at an early age and we went the diet/supplement/occupational therapy route instead of drugs (ritalin, SRIs, SNRIs). The results for us were remarkable. Not saying anything against the drugs, just that diet and individual differences in diet requirements, are often ignored or downplayed. We were also lucky in that the kids autism doc guided us through trials of different food and vitamin combos. He didn't endorse anything but he helped us determine what worked for us and what didn't.

      Regarding immune system: ginger and lemon tea has worked very well as an immune booster for us. Sounds funny but if you buy ginger root and stick a couple of slices in a cup with half a lemon of juice and some honey/hot water you will have a very tasty drink that seems to ward off the flu etc. Cheap and easy. Our family doctor is also qualified in Chinese medicine and she swears by it. I used to get sick twice a winter (kids, school, viral soup around us) but nada since we started on the ginger/lemon combo.

      Keep searching and good luck.

      BTW posting AC just because of the sensitivity of the autism issue.

  51. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

    Thanks for adding that. Having kids with issues in other areas (not motor neuron directly) I understand the need for clarity.

    Cheers

  52. Bucket list by camperdave · · Score: 2

    Sadly, his bucket list remained unfinished...
    1 - Make love to wife: check
    2 - Say goodbye to family: check
    3 - Farewell party with close friends: check
    4 - Give to charity: check
    5 - Write memoirs: check
    ...
    86 - Go to Disneyland: check
    ...
    9032 - Fix Gnome bug: check
    9033 - Make peace with Mother-in-Law:

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  53. Adrian Hands - special mention FSF tech award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-free-software-awards-announced
    Rob Savoye, TOR and a special mention to Adrian Hands

    I chaired the committee that decides this award and am glad to report that the committee was unanimous in deciding to award Adrian a Special Mention

    The awards committee was - Suresh Ramasubramanian, Peter H. Salus, Wietse Venema, Raj Mathur, Hong Feng, Andrew Tridgell, Jonas Oberg, Vernor Vinge, Richard Stallman, Fernanda G. Weiden and Harald Welte.

    May his soul rest in peace

    --srs

  54. Slashdot, you got it wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adrian Hands wrote the patch about two months before his decease, not three days as you claim here. It is still very remarkable but let's keep the sensationalism away from this news.

    Claudio

  55. Re:Actually you'd be surprised how many people hav by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    It's dumb to call it ALS. People are much better at recognizing people than acronyms.

    That is just plain lazy, It really doesn't take that much effort to type "als define" into Google to get a useful response in the first two results. You don't even have to use the "shift" key.

  56. Better known by the abbreviation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheesh, would it have been too hard to spell out the acronym once?

    Typical for you nerds. :(

    It's like HIV or SARS. It's a disease that's better known by its abbreviation than by actually spelling out what the initials stand for.

    Well, at least among people who aren't nerds.

  57. YO Adrian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel lucky to have known Adrian personally. I began working with him in 2000. We worked in the same department were he was a java, perl, everything else you may need programmer and I was a sql/, javascript, html web developer.

    I remember all he went through trying to find out what was wrong (I had suffered a spinal cord injury years ago that left me a partial paraplegic) so I think he felt I could understand what he was going through.

    He rode his bike to work almost every day (even after his diagnosis and initial disease progression). He was smart, and funny and a dedicated man. I hope I can live my life with as much enthusiasm as he did.