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A5: All Apple, Part Mystery

PabloSandoval48 submitted a fairly lengthy story running on the EE Times about the A5 processor that powers the iPad 2. The story talks a bit about the A4 and A5, the IP issues surrounding the chip, and more. The real question now is what comes next.

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  1. Wild Guess... by MarcQuadra · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real question now is what comes next.

    Here's a hint: It will be faster, and it will probably be called 'A6'. Just a guess.

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    1. Re:Wild Guess... by rjstanford · · Score: 2

      Or possibly the A5.1, OSX being what it is.

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  2. The real question now is what comes next. by wiredog · · Score: 2

    The A6 Quattro?

    1. Re:The real question now is what comes next. by bhcompy · · Score: 2

      A6 Intruder.

    2. Re:The real question now is what comes next. by Duradin · · Score: 2

      Can't wait for the A10 in that case. I wonder what the DU will cost in the app store.

  3. Awful article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The authors of the article and the editor who approved it should be ashamed of themselves. Five pages saying exactly nothing.

    1. Re:Awful article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, ah, ah. Not five pages saying exactly nothing. Five pages of saying exactly nothing about Apple. This makes it far more important and trendy than all the other pages of nothing in the world.

    2. Re:Awful article by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      The authors of the article and the editor who approved it should be ashamed of themselves. Five pages saying exactly nothing.

      They did very little work and generated lots of ad views. They should be pumping their fists in the air with the Final Fantasy victory tune playing.

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  4. And after that? by Lunaritian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The A[3+n] processor will be included in Apple iPad [n], which will be released in [2009+n]."

    I just saved you the trouble of thinking

    1. Re:And after that? by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 5, Funny

      "When n is an integer greater than 0"

      Patched for accuracy.

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    2. Re:And after that? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      "Only for very large values of 0"

      We apologize. The persons responsible for patching have been patched.

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  5. Re:To be fair, here is link with ads by DanTheStone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not the advertisements that tend to make people link to the print version, it's when they spread the article out over several pages. I don't mind advertisements at all, but I hate the online equivalent of turning to several different newspaper pages to finish a single article.

  6. Re:To be fair, here is link with ads by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I might side with you if there were any content. The article consisted of some micrographs and a lot of "duh" speculation. I came away with very little new information. It took them a huge block of text to tell me that they don't know what 60% of the chip does.

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  7. Knowing apple.... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In about 2 years a new line of Desktops and laptops will be announced that used the new A10 processor, this processor will be used to get rid of all those ooky older intel based devices by having the new OS not compatible with it. Thus purging the world of the old product forcibly. Just like how those disgusting old G5 quad core towers still linger about now...

    Using old hardware makes Jobs angry.... you wont like him when he's angry....

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    1. Re:Knowing apple.... by grub · · Score: 2


      Apple would be cutting its own throat to move the Mac line to non-Intel chips.

      They could include a simulator/emulator much like how Xcode already has. Or embed an A-whatever chip on the boards as a secondary processor for that type of thing.

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    2. Re:Knowing apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're not "nerds," just idiots. And those come in all sorts of varieties,

    3. Re:Knowing apple.... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The move to Intel was more for logistical reasons as opposed to a dick move to screw people. At the time both Motorola and IBM had problems supplying Apple with enough CPUs. Despite being a big name customer, Apple was really a small customer (in terms of volume) ordering a custom part for both companies. No one wants to carry excess inventory so when Apple kept ordering more chips the two companies had trouble keeping up. By switching to Intel, the supply of chips would be more reliable because the part was now a stock part. If Apple upped their forecasts and didn't end up buying chips, Intel could sell to one of their other customers.

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    4. Re:Knowing apple.... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Yeah, Windows 7 won't run on my 486 either. Wah.

    5. Re:Knowing apple.... by JonJ · · Score: 2

      We were walking in the mall in Orland Park, IL so just for fun we go into the apple store and change the back grounds on about half a dozen laptops to the microsoft logo, and the homepages to microsoft.com. Yes we are all nerds.

      Fuck you, you're not nerds. Astroturfers and stupid MS-fanboys maybe, but you're not nerds. Go buy yourself a decent operating system.

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  8. Re:To be fair, here is link with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's merely a well planted Apple advertisement. A5 is SO powerful, so amazing, that even if you're not impressed with iPad 2, you'd be silly to actually consider an alternative instead of waiting for A6.

    We've been seeing a lot of this stuff, lately. I wonder why Apple's so worried that their zombie masses will snap out of it.

  9. TFA is pretty clueless. by teh31337one · · Score: 2

    There was however one recent article suggesting Apple implemented hardware video accelerators in the A4.

    The comment seemed almost too easy in light of the above discussion. If this is in fact true one might question whether this is somehow associated with Apple's stance on Flash for its iOS devices. However, such an accelerator would have been one of the digital blocks. Does this imply it was also present on the S5PC110?

    Yes, Samsung do have hardware video accelerators in their hummingbird processor. It supports mpeg4, H.264, H.263, Sorenson codec, DivX HD/ XviD, VC-1 and the video formats 3GP (MPEG-4), WMV (Advanced Systems Format), AVI (divx), MKV and FLV.

  10. Re:What comes next by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    A6? you cant get rock hard abs in 6 minutes. it's 7 minute abs.

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  11. Bored by Tigger's+Pet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been a /. reader for over 8 years now and have noticed the change in the type of story discussed here. I keep seeing people saying things like "Why are we talking about FB - this is suppsed to be a techie site and we should discuss techie things". I tend to find myself agreeing with them most of the time.
    Then a story like this comes along - which should be "manna from heaven" for Nerds and Geeks and I try to read TFA - only to find myself yawning and giving up coz it's dry, tedious and badly written.
    I can't even win in an argument with myself anymore - must be a sign that I'm getting old.

  12. Re:To be fair, here is link with ads by Dishevel · · Score: 2

    Or we will see site operators that do not fluff up a 1 paragraph story to 5 pages then spread those 5 pages out to present you with ads 5 times,
    Fuck the operator that does that. I hope their sites fail. That way the cream can rise to the top and the shit heads can starve.

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  13. Re:Apple's New Plant in Brazil by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

    I don't see Apple releasing an iPad 3 just 8 months after releasing the iPad 2. They might release an iPad 2 with more storage in time for the holidays as this would require changing one chip on the board, but not a whole new product. At the moment Apple and their suppliers seem to have enough problems manufacturing enough iPad 2s much less starting a whole new line.

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  14. Re:A lot of speculation, very little thinking by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Informative

    The battery is actually slightly bigger in terms of capacity. It is 25 kWh whereas the old one was 24.8 kWh. The battery appears much larger only because it is wider but it also is thinner than the old one. As for the A5, another thing Apple did is to make the cores variable speed. They run at a max of 1GHz but clock down depending on usage probably to conserve power.

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  15. Re:To be fair, here is link with ads by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not so much. The two ARM cores are pretty easy to identify on the chip, as are some of the other components. The rest is... something. No one cares enough to work out exactly what. Oh, and the two ARM cores are well under 40% of the total die size. The GPU takes up a reasonable amount of space, and then there are controllers for the various peripherals (network, audio, USB and so on), interrupt controllers, and so on.

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  16. Re:Apple's New Plant in Brazil by BitZtream · · Score: 2

    Foxconn doesn't make parts for Apple.

    No, Foxconn makes parts for A LOT of technology companies, not just Apple, and they also do some assembly of devices as well.

    I doubt you'll find a motherboard made that doesn't have Foxconn components on it like the back panel ports for instance are almost certainly Foxconn components regardless of who assembled your computer, yourself or Dell.

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