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A5: All Apple, Part Mystery
PabloSandoval48 submitted a fairly lengthy story running on the EE Times about the A5 processor that powers the iPad 2. The story talks a bit about the A4 and A5, the IP issues surrounding the chip, and more. The real question now is what comes next.
The A6?
The real question now is what comes next.
Here's a hint: It will be faster, and it will probably be called 'A6'. Just a guess.
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The A6 Quattro?
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The authors of the article and the editor who approved it should be ashamed of themselves. Five pages saying exactly nothing.
"The A[3+n] processor will be included in Apple iPad [n], which will be released in [2009+n]."
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It's not the advertisements that tend to make people link to the print version, it's when they spread the article out over several pages. I don't mind advertisements at all, but I hate the online equivalent of turning to several different newspaper pages to finish a single article.
I might side with you if there were any content. The article consisted of some micrographs and a lot of "duh" speculation. I came away with very little new information. It took them a huge block of text to tell me that they don't know what 60% of the chip does.
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In about 2 years a new line of Desktops and laptops will be announced that used the new A10 processor, this processor will be used to get rid of all those ooky older intel based devices by having the new OS not compatible with it. Thus purging the world of the old product forcibly. Just like how those disgusting old G5 quad core towers still linger about now...
Using old hardware makes Jobs angry.... you wont like him when he's angry....
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It's merely a well planted Apple advertisement. A5 is SO powerful, so amazing, that even if you're not impressed with iPad 2, you'd be silly to actually consider an alternative instead of waiting for A6.
We've been seeing a lot of this stuff, lately. I wonder why Apple's so worried that their zombie masses will snap out of it.
I might side with you if there were any content. The article consisted of some micrographs and a lot of "duh" speculation. I came away with very little new information. It took them a huge block of text to tell me that they don't know what 60% of the chip does.
60%... dual core ... what an interesting ratio... build 5 cutting edge cores and as long as at least 2 of the cores pass testing, ship it...
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There was however one recent article suggesting Apple implemented hardware video accelerators in the A4.
The comment seemed almost too easy in light of the above discussion. If this is in fact true one might question whether this is somehow associated with Apple's stance on Flash for its iOS devices. However, such an accelerator would have been one of the digital blocks. Does this imply it was also present on the S5PC110?
Yes, Samsung do have hardware video accelerators in their hummingbird processor. It supports mpeg4, H.264, H.263, Sorenson codec, DivX HD/ XviD, VC-1 and the video formats 3GP (MPEG-4), WMV (Advanced Systems Format), AVI (divx), MKV and FLV.
Why would I want to support content-free filler like that?
A5 uses the PowerVR SGX543 GPU. The graphics performance is pretty decent (much improved over the PowerVR SGX535 used in iPhone 3gs and A4 SoC), and easily bests the Tegra 2. But that's because Tegra 2 is an old chip now, while 543 is a new chip. Apple don't have exclusivity on the chip, heck, a quad core 543 is used in NGP.
A5 is top of the GPU performance heap for now, but it will be bested by newer chips.
There are plugins that will take care of that for you. Safari has a "reader" button by default that loads all the pages of an article into a single view.
Safari's reader feature is great, when it works--and it does with this article. Often times, it will only load the first page, or omit graphics, which makes it a little unreliable. Still, I always try reader first before hitting the print version.
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I've been a /. reader for over 8 years now and have noticed the change in the type of story discussed here. I keep seeing people saying things like "Why are we talking about FB - this is suppsed to be a techie site and we should discuss techie things". I tend to find myself agreeing with them most of the time.
Then a story like this comes along - which should be "manna from heaven" for Nerds and Geeks and I try to read TFA - only to find myself yawning and giving up coz it's dry, tedious and badly written.
I can't even win in an argument with myself anymore - must be a sign that I'm getting old.
Apple opens up a new plant in Brazil. Production could start as early as November. Perhaps then, we could see the new IPad 3.
Source:
Report: Apple Part Maker Foxconn to Open Brazil Plant
Since Apple's products seem to be merging somewhat... OS X Lion will incorporate some of the features from the iPad and iPhone... how fast do they think these "A chips" will get? Will they eventually replace Intel chips in whatever passes for an iMac one day? Will we see the day when Apple makes most of the parts that goes into their products themselves, rather than subbing out major systems? Will the PowerPC fanboys that so loudly cried foul! when Apple "sold out" and went to Intel rejoice? Is an ARM-based chip "think different" enough from Intel for their liking?
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Or we will see site operators that do not fluff up a 1 paragraph story to 5 pages then spread those 5 pages out to present you with ads 5 times,
Fuck the operator that does that. I hope their sites fail. That way the cream can rise to the top and the shit heads can starve.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
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The battery is actually slightly bigger in terms of capacity. It is 25 kWh whereas the old one was 24.8 kWh. The battery appears much larger only because it is wider but it also is thinner than the old one. As for the A5, another thing Apple did is to make the cores variable speed. They run at a max of 1GHz but clock down depending on usage probably to conserve power.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I hate people like you, everything is a conspiracy that apple made against humanity. Hitler was actually a iMac G4 prototype. And i know, apple killed your mother and ran over your dog. i'm so freaking over it. Just use what you like.
What I find interesting about that, is that apple is blamed for not basically revolutionising the Market with every revision of their product. I never heard a reviewer blaming dell that a new product line of notebooks was just lighter, more powerful etc. I find that totally in order . The iPad 2 is a new revision of a well received product. That is totally normal. I think that everybody who expects a revolution from apple every single year has fallen more for the "apple fanboyism" the the so called fanboys :)
Not really. The article says that the extra blocks in the A5 will probably be for video acceleration
Perhaps because Apple can't actually supply equipment for said masses - they need to keep them hungry while they figure out their supply chains.
Not so much. The two ARM cores are pretty easy to identify on the chip, as are some of the other components. The rest is... something. No one cares enough to work out exactly what. Oh, and the two ARM cores are well under 40% of the total die size. The GPU takes up a reasonable amount of space, and then there are controllers for the various peripherals (network, audio, USB and so on), interrupt controllers, and so on.
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What are you basing this theory on?
The opposite of progress is congress
Benchmarks
What ever for?
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Between A5 and its creator, Steve Jobs, who had to audacity to impress his own memory engrams on the new chip. Due to his ongoing "personal issues" the chip became unstable and slaughtered its opponents Motorola, Samsung, and RIMM. Jobs will remind A5 of how great they both are before playing dead and waiting for HP to join the fray...
Jobs also made a point of sending his regards to Captain Dunsel. AKA Steve Ballmer.
The battery is actually slightly bigger in terms of capacity. It is 25 kWh whereas the old one was 24.8 kWh.
Much as I'd like to live in a world with battery technology good enough to put a 25 kWh battery in something the size of an iPad, I suspect it's actually 25 Wh. :)
I'm surprised you lack morals. Go steal candy from little children then instead of stealing impressions from webmasters. At least you can see the crying directly and understand the impact you are having.
I always thought a sense of morality was ingrained. Between my down-moderation on this issue and your response, I realize now that in fact a sense of morality is something you must fight to keep in place, a fight some apparently gave up on long ago.
At least what I got out of this is knowing I'm a damn sight better person than a lot of Slashdot posters and moderators.
I mean, if I'm going to get modded down anyway I might as well speak truth to moral equivalence. Mod away, but you know in your heart something is wrong with re-formatting a site in a link you send to thousands of people.
I think for instance the same thing when I see an XKCD or Oatmeal comic embedded in some other site displaying their own ads. There is no difference here. It is pulling a lot of data down from the server with zero monetary return from the site. I also think it's bullshit spreading out fluff content across several pages; In that case I wouldn't link to them. If I chose to do so I'd do the honorable thing and send viewers to the page the thing was on.
You may have the last response; you'd only steal it for yourself anyway.
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I bet you stay glued to the TV when the ads are on, right? That would be the ethical thing to do.
...are you seriously in doubt or just being a dick?
XKCD and Oatmeal can protect themselves if they want to with referrer magic. So, apparently, they welcome this use of their comics. And, getting a sense of morality out of an obligation towards advertisers? Please, consider re-thinking this moral stance.
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And with proper referrer magic, these stupid sites would not allow a print link from Slashdot. You're tilting at windmills, here.
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The referrer magic is not in place; the linking to the print version actually happened. In what way is that "tilting at windmills" when the problem I point out actually exists?
The phrase that comes to my mind as far as "referrer magic" is, closing the barn door after the horse is gone. The linking has been done, the traffic moved on.
I hope Karma dishes out a nice reward to the entire Slashdot community that supported this action.
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Yes, the horses from the past's articles have fled the barn. The site owners still have control over their site for future articles. Your wishing harm on others does not help your own "Karma"; but, of course, haters rarely look inwards.
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