Computer Records Hold Key In IMF Head's Sexual Assault Case
Hugh Pickens writes "ABA Journal reports that the chief of the International Monetary Fund may claim consent as a defense to accusations that he sexually assaulted a maid at the Sofitel Hotel in New York as defense lawyer Benjamin Brafman told the judge he believed the 'forensic evidence' was 'not consistent with forcible encounter.' Police have said the maid knocked on Strauss-Kahn's door and called out, used her master keycard to open the door, and left her work cart in the doorway, a typical safety practice in hotels. According to the police account, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked, tried to attack the maid, and then shut the hotel door when she tried to escape. The NY Times explains how the key card evidence may play out: 'If the defense for Mr. Strauss-Kahn maintains that the encounter was consensual, its version will have to accommodate the unambiguous computer record of her leaving the door propped open,' the story says."
We're following this tabloid crap on Slashdot just because a door has an electronic sensor on it !? Get real, for fuck's sake.
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anyone know what lock system it is?
I only know the specifics of three electronic lock systems...
and all three that I know? only key swiping.. not closings or how long a door was open.
they can't even tell if the door was actually opened-- they can only tell that a key was used
as in, if I flash my key and the lock goes green but I don't open the door?
it records the key use but doesn't know I didn't open it.
if the master metal override key is used is also recorded (and even triggering that event in the memory)
wouldn't require the door to be opened (although it would be noticeable)
anyone know of a lock system that does all they suggest?
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tried to attack the maid, and then shut the hotel door when she tried to escape
If the defense for Mr. Strauss-Kahn maintains that the encounter was consensual, its version will have to accommodate the unambiguous computer record of her leaving the door propped open,'
Above 2 statements are contradictory
It's not opening the door, it's keeping it open with the cleaning cart that matters. Unless she was a pervert who enjoys fucking with the door open, of course.
The "unambiguous computer records" at issue here are the supposed times and codes of door openings and times of closings. It's unambiguously useless for telling apart situation (a) the attempted rapist guest closes the door and (b) the maid interested in extracurricular activities closes the door.
This is about reconciling their stories. Evidence of lying is a good place to start.
DSK is very famous for its relationship with women. He loves sex and women love him.
Generally, the women are very satisfied. Why on earth would he run after a maid if she was not make him advances ?
In this story, only idiots could believe he is a sexual predator, the plot theory is by far the most probable.
It is not the first try to trap him on his sexual weakness, but it is the first time it is not defeated.
well according to other reports on the Intertubes, she may be HIV+ so the unabiguous computer records will be trumped by the unambigous antibody records...
I heard on the radio the other day that hotel and city surveillance cameras were going to be the key to prove his innocence or guilt since they are virtually EVERYWHERE in New York City.
The other interesting tidbit of information is that DSK said that he would be set-up in some sort of entrapment sex scandal a few weeks before he arrived in the USA.
Makes you wonder...
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Famous indeed....
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
It is not the first try to trap him on his sexual weakness, but it is the first time it is not defeated.
"Oh no! My one weakness : sex! If only you hadn't been a woman cleaning my room when I stepped out of the shower or I might have been able to resist fucking you!"
Don't make me laugh. If she's lying, that's one thing. But I don't think that 'sexual weakness' is a valid defence in court, somehow. This all reminds me of Julian Assange - it is possible that DSK is very good at his job, and great in many other ways, but _at the same time_ a sexual predator to some extent.
I'm sure it's just coincidence that on his first non-diplomatic trip to the US after denouncing the US Dollar Strauss-Kahn is found to be a perv, thrown in Riker's Island, and Geithner demands his resignation.
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Only an idiot denies that sexual urges are rational. Some men like the chase. Where is the passion if women are lining up to suckle at your manly teet? Chasing tail is exhilerating, and overcoming objections is ego-boosting. Likely, he has done things like this before, and has previously relied on women's shame or discretion to keep it out of the courts. This time he was not so lucky.
The maid will claim he shut the door to imprison her, he will claim they shut the door after mutually agreeing to sex. So these records prove nothing
Fortunately the accused in our system don't have to prove anything, just convince the jury that there's reasonable doubt. If it boils down to a he-said/she-said situation, that shouldn't be too hard. If there's further evidence of sexual entrapment, even easier.
But, no matter, he'll have been replaced at the IMF even before a pre-trial hearing, so the goal will have been met and it doesn't matter what the judicial outcome is.
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And the he ejaculated into her mouth and turned her around and bent her over because that's how justice rolls in France?
I bet a few people where listening to bugs planted in that room. too bad that kind of evidence will never become public.
I have a few quite celebrity-aware friends. I'm always amazed at how many celebrities (A- to D-list) I come across when I'm with them. I can conceive of a poor immigrant woman not having either knowledge nor interest about the west's current nomenklatura. I'm French and, honestly, before this, I probably wouldn't have recognized him either. His name I would, his face,not.
She's been cleaning $3000 a night rooms for 3 years. If she wanted to blackmail people, she wouldn't run off to the police, she would probably target business, sports, show-business people rather than politicians, and above all she would ask privately for money, not publicly for justice.
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Some women might well enjoy DSK. That does not mean all will. Some might like an aggressive approach. Not all will. He has had some past accusations (withdrawn).
The victim is a muslim widow from West Africa with political asylum. She reported immediately and is inconsoleable. Unless this can be disproven and she is unmasked as some sort of agent, her word is good.
If DSK is a predator, he would not wait for advances. If he is not a predator, why would he even respond to advances? Knowing the danger, he would have keeped it zipped.
Or does 58% of france believe that true men never say no? LOL!
If I were the lead investigator, the first thing I would do is ask both parties to take a lie detector exam. And I *WOULD NOT* allow the FBI or any other federal agency to administer it.
This whole thing smells fishy as hell to me. First Julian Assnage, now this guy. It seems that a lot of people these days are deciding to become rapists right after they cross the U.S.
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but the way I'm reading it, there are 2 possible scenarios.
1) Straight from TFS, "According to the police account, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked, tried to attack the maid, and then shut the hotel door when she tried to escape".
2) She did consent, and either he or she shut the door for some privacy.
In both cases, the door gets shut.
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For example, if a male guest calls for service, the housekeeping department will send up a male attendant.
“Oftentimes, male guests will order the pay-per-view adult movies, and then call for towels, perhaps hoping that a woman will be sent to bring them up,” said Peter M. Krauss, chief sales and marketing officer for Plasticard Locktech International of Asheville, N.C., which provides card keys to hotels. “So whenever they can, the hotels will send up a male if the call comes from a male guest.”
Pssht! There are three kinds of adult movies.... And for one kind, it might be safer to send a female attendant, especially if the guest ordered extra soap...
Guy has a history of sexual harassment/assault. Victim says she was assaulted and forensic evidence seems to support her account. There's no need to invent conspiracy theories here.
Just because a guy happens to be a "socialist" or French or anti-US doesn't make him *not* a rich, powerful douche who thinks he can do whatever he likes to whomever he likes. This guy violated another human being and deserves what he gets. I don't care who he is or what he thinks about our currency.
trying to force her out of the room by locking her in?judging by his career, the guy is smarter than that.
How can you lock somebody into a hotel room? Don't these door always open from the inside even if locked, for fire security reasons?
I'm by no means an expert in this field, but from what I've read of the psychology of rapists, it's usually more about the power than the sex. Most men who rape men are heterosexual - they're sexually aroused by the act of forcing themselves on someone else, not by their victims.
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According to what information we've been given as fact, the maid entered the room shortly after 12:00 noon, and he checked out at 12:28. In that time, according to the maid he chased her, forced her to give him oral, anally raped her, tried to vaginally rape her. Anyone that's anal sex knows it's save to assume he must have washed up at lest a little. We know he put on his suit before checking out. I'm not saying I have opinion either way, but that is a lot to do in 25 minutes.
Using FMRI is not fool proof. You don't even need to be trained in it to beat that. At most its 80% effective, which will not be admissable in court. Is it better than the standard polygraph? Yes, but not, as you say, 100% accurate.
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You have to know, that the other big thing going on in Europe right now, is how to deal with the issue of Greece's severe debts, problematic economy, and them asking again for money, shortly after they've already 'received' over 100 billion euro's. Not only that, but Portugal, Ireland and Spain are also in trouble.
This is causing a lot of political turmoil, with some even going as far as proposing that Greece be kicked out of the euro-zone, instead of spending more money on them. Now Strauss-Kahn was a leading proponent of giving Greece a second bailout, and he was due for a meeting on this very topic last Sunday with German chancellor Angela Merkel, but instead was pulled out of the plane that would take him to that meeting. No matter how DSK's case pans out, he's already gone from the IMF. Who knows what views on the Greece issue his successor will have? Or what the future of the euro-zone will look like? Will it include Greece defaulting on its debts, (forcedly) abandoning the euro and returning to the drachme, and if that happens and a precedent is set, Portugal, Ireland and/or Spain doing the same? Or if the weaker countries refuse to abandon the euro, maybe the stronger countries doing it instead (already 'threatened' by some politicians in The Netherlands and in Germany)...
And of course conspiracy theories have also been aired, that claim that DSK was framed, either because of this euro-crisis thing, or because he was also the next presidential candidate of the French socialist party and was much less 'America-friendly' than current president Sarkozy.
So all in all, I'd say it's as least as newsworthy as some of the other crap I've seen posted here :)